If I could give another +1 then I would.
You brought a nuke to a knife fight
You brought a nuke to a knife fight
A man is only as faithful as his options-Chris Rock
Quote: (08-06-2014 04:40 AM)Suits Wrote:
Quote: (08-06-2014 02:32 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:
the Beijing cream guys,
Do you know Anthony?
Quote: (08-06-2014 06:56 AM)BadWolf Wrote:
http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/videos/no...rsion.html
I guess it depends on where you are in China, but all my friends and my wife think that the leftover age is 25. Most of my students start to panic around that age as well. 27 is an OLD maid in China dude, by 25 most parents are on their kids to get married like white on rice. By 25 women are scared but by 27 they are completely fvcked. I had one of my rich kid students show me naked pics of her EVERY class in hopes of getting a man and she was FIT. We both knew the score though, she was 26 and approaching the cliff.
Lyrics and English translations:
多情的阳光 洒落在你的脸庞
Warm sunshine, shining on your face
看看周围的小伙 个个都挺娘
Looking at the young guys all around, every one of them are very girly
女人的渴望就是要有车和房
Having a house and a car is what women long for
嫁对人是最大的愿望
Marrying the right person is the biggest wish
问你有没有车问你有没有房
Asking you if you have a car, asking you if you have a house
我妈妈她也问你存折有几张
My mother will also ask you how much savings you have
假如你没有车 假如你也没有房
If you have no car, if you also have no house
赶紧靠边别把路来挡
Hurry move aside and don’t block my way
我也有车 我也有房
I also have a car, I also have a house
还有人民币在银行
As well as RMB in the bank
你们要是还没有我强
If you guys aren’t even as capable as me
别吃软饭我不是你的娘
Don’t depend on me, I’m not your mother
你没有车 你没有房
You don’t have a car, you don’t have a house
别想把美女泡上床
Don’t expect to get a beauty into bed
装穷哥你不就开个破宝马
Pretending to be poor, you only drive a lousy BMW
别装大款你把我来包养
Don’t pretend you’re a rich guy who can keep me as his mistress
x2
你没有车 你没有房
You don’t have a car, you don’t have a house
你还想结婚当新郎
Yet you still want to get married and be a groom
如果你生活都没奔小康
If your life isn’t well off
凭什么我和你去流浪
Why should I accompany you in wandering
你说我现实我承认也无妨
You say I am realistic/practical, that I may as well admit
骂我拜金我也不受伤
You can call me a gold-digger and I won’t feel hurt
男人总得有个男人的模样
A man after all should be like a man
没车没房 你别想找新娘
Without a car, without a house, forget about finding a bride
If the shoe were on the other foot it would be like living in America where you are forced to choose between fat girls, so of course you'd be looking for the ones with the most money. The girls in this vid are just praying they get some foreign tail cause Chinese guys have to be the most boring nerds on the face of the Earth. You are pretty much guaranteed an unremarkable life if you marry one.
Quote: (08-06-2014 10:37 AM)2014 Wrote:
A lot of this carries over to Korea. In fact almost all of it. Korean culture mimics Chinese culture very much.
Your part about the +plus and -minus scores about a LTR are great and once again I want to say fantastic job on this post.
One thing I have to ask is this: Obviously from the length of your post, it's a lot of work in China to understand the culture, differentiate between different types of women and avoid getting in trouble with the public for their lack of knowledge regarding foreigners (see; Surrounded!!) and the CCP for their power. Why at the start of this guide did you say that a mix of KTV and P4P is a no go in China? Seems like a lot less work to me.
In addition to that, I want to ask about the mistress game you have. I have no problem with getting and keeping LTR's however my mistress second/third woman game is shit! Tips needed, thanks!
Quote: (08-06-2014 03:53 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:
Quote: (08-06-2014 06:56 AM)BadWolf Wrote:
http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/videos/no...rsion.html
I guess it depends on where you are in China, but all my friends and my wife think that the leftover age is 25. Most of my students start to panic around that age as well. 27 is an OLD maid in China dude, by 25 most parents are on their kids to get married like white on rice. By 25 women are scared but by 27 they are completely fvcked. I had one of my rich kid students show me naked pics of her EVERY class in hopes of getting a man and she was FIT. We both knew the score though, she was 26 and approaching the cliff.
Lyrics and English translations:
多情的阳光 洒落在你的脸庞
Warm sunshine, shining on your face
看看周围的小伙 个个都挺娘
Looking at the young guys all around, every one of them are very girly
女人的渴望就是要有车和房
Having a house and a car is what women long for
嫁对人是最大的愿望
Marrying the right person is the biggest wish
问你有没有车问你有没有房
Asking you if you have a car, asking you if you have a house
我妈妈她也问你存折有几张
My mother will also ask you how much savings you have
假如你没有车 假如你也没有房
If you have no car, if you also have no house
赶紧靠边别把路来挡
Hurry move aside and don’t block my way
我也有车 我也有房
I also have a car, I also have a house
还有人民币在银行
As well as RMB in the bank
你们要是还没有我强
If you guys aren’t even as capable as me
别吃软饭我不是你的娘
Don’t depend on me, I’m not your mother
你没有车 你没有房
You don’t have a car, you don’t have a house
别想把美女泡上床
Don’t expect to get a beauty into bed
装穷哥你不就开个破宝马
Pretending to be poor, you only drive a lousy BMW
别装大款你把我来包养
Don’t pretend you’re a rich guy who can keep me as his mistress
x2
你没有车 你没有房
You don’t have a car, you don’t have a house
你还想结婚当新郎
Yet you still want to get married and be a groom
如果你生活都没奔小康
If your life isn’t well off
凭什么我和你去流浪
Why should I accompany you in wandering
你说我现实我承认也无妨
You say I am realistic/practical, that I may as well admit
骂我拜金我也不受伤
You can call me a gold-digger and I won’t feel hurt
男人总得有个男人的模样
A man after all should be like a man
没车没房 你别想找新娘
Without a car, without a house, forget about finding a bride
If the shoe were on the other foot it would be like living in America where you are forced to choose between fat girls, so of course you'd be looking for the ones with the most money. The girls in this vid are just praying they get some foreign tail cause Chinese guys have to be the most boring nerds on the face of the Earth. You are pretty much guaranteed an unremarkable life if you marry one.
Location definitely matters but more often than not, the difference in many ways comes down to what the girl did after high school.
Marriage age in China is 20 years for girls.
If she goes to a 2 year college she will get out around 21. So then she has 22-25 to find a man on her own. Family may try to find one for her, but she can also hunt herself via luck of getting approached by a guy they approve of. At 25-26 parents get very desperate because they all know it's a death sentence and start hunting furiously.
If she goes to a 4 year college, she will get out at ~22-23. She now has one less year range wise to find a husband before it gets too late. These women suffer the most in a way because their education can hurt them with certain men. It kinda makes them similar to American women repelling men that do not have the same level of education as them. All Shengnu I chatted with or dated were all university educated and some had a masters degree.
If she did not go to college at all, then she will 9/10 times be married by 23 and probably have a first baby before 24, unless she is very ugly and picky. This group has the lowest risk of the three.
Ugly millionaire daughters get suitors sometimes, but the parents are the ones that are picky and may demand a large hongbao from his family for letting their rich daughter marry him, causing their whole family to marry down. If they end up single by 25 the parents get desperate but if they are not 5-10, it gets much harder.
When Chinese go to college it is not like it is for us in the West. There is no such thing as a co-ed dormitory. There is no sneaking down the hallway or the other dorm to fuck your neighbors, while their roomates are down at the cafeteria. In fact having a boyfriend while enrolled gets you sent to the dean's office for discipline in some colleges. Colleges in China, especially 2 year ones, are literally boot camps. Six days a week, 12 hours a day. Fucking brutal. Their elite universities are more Western like. Even Chinese parents forbid dating until they finish their school.
All this is important to know when chasing school age girls. You can think you have bad game because they dissapeared on you. You may be surprised if one leaves your barn or stable because they have to return to school for the new semester. Young Chinese girls are active in the SUMMER MONTHS. Winter is a no go. Many live at schools before college, so if you want an 18 year old, you have your work cut out for you.
One good exploit for older men to getting 18 year olds back to the US as a wife is to either use online game and flex your financial and maturity at them. Present a large hong bao to her parents, NOT HER, and they will let her leave school and go back with you. Even though China's legal marriage age is 20, 18 year olds are allowed to get a K1 visa. This is what several ABCs in the US are doing. I had no idea until my wife got here that they were doing this in large numbers. I saw a few white guys in their 40's do this too. Not a bad thing IMO. I know most guys are players on this site, but if you are 40+ you can get something very pristine, often times virgin, fresh ovaries and uterus for babies, and mold-able. Trick is that you need to be very cultural aware and know how to set it up. Not hard if you start pipelining 18 year olds to find some. The online ones are good bets if you can get past the sausage fest of guys hitting on them, because they are looking for a marriage to begin with. Meet them in person and make sure you see their parents if you are want to bring her back. They will have to approve for you to even have a chance at bringing one back. WGF is strong and Asian Factor is very strong on this. If a black guy or Mexican could pull this off, I will buy you a case of beer for a reward.
Quote: (08-06-2014 04:24 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:
Quote: (08-06-2014 03:53 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:
Quote: (08-06-2014 06:56 AM)BadWolf Wrote:
http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/videos/no...rsion.html
I guess it depends on where you are in China, but all my friends and my wife think that the leftover age is 25. Most of my students start to panic around that age as well. 27 is an OLD maid in China dude, by 25 most parents are on their kids to get married like white on rice. By 25 women are scared but by 27 they are completely fvcked. I had one of my rich kid students show me naked pics of her EVERY class in hopes of getting a man and she was FIT. We both knew the score though, she was 26 and approaching the cliff.
Lyrics and English translations:
多情的阳光 洒落在你的脸庞
Warm sunshine, shining on your face
看看周围的小伙 个个都挺娘
Looking at the young guys all around, every one of them are very girly
女人的渴望就是要有车和房
Having a house and a car is what women long for
嫁对人是最大的愿望
Marrying the right person is the biggest wish
问你有没有车问你有没有房
Asking you if you have a car, asking you if you have a house
我妈妈她也问你存折有几张
My mother will also ask you how much savings you have
假如你没有车 假如你也没有房
If you have no car, if you also have no house
赶紧靠边别把路来挡
Hurry move aside and don’t block my way
我也有车 我也有房
I also have a car, I also have a house
还有人民币在银行
As well as RMB in the bank
你们要是还没有我强
If you guys aren’t even as capable as me
别吃软饭我不是你的娘
Don’t depend on me, I’m not your mother
你没有车 你没有房
You don’t have a car, you don’t have a house
别想把美女泡上床
Don’t expect to get a beauty into bed
装穷哥你不就开个破宝马
Pretending to be poor, you only drive a lousy BMW
别装大款你把我来包养
Don’t pretend you’re a rich guy who can keep me as his mistress
x2
你没有车 你没有房
You don’t have a car, you don’t have a house
你还想结婚当新郎
Yet you still want to get married and be a groom
如果你生活都没奔小康
If your life isn’t well off
凭什么我和你去流浪
Why should I accompany you in wandering
你说我现实我承认也无妨
You say I am realistic/practical, that I may as well admit
骂我拜金我也不受伤
You can call me a gold-digger and I won’t feel hurt
男人总得有个男人的模样
A man after all should be like a man
没车没房 你别想找新娘
Without a car, without a house, forget about finding a bride
If the shoe were on the other foot it would be like living in America where you are forced to choose between fat girls, so of course you'd be looking for the ones with the most money. The girls in this vid are just praying they get some foreign tail cause Chinese guys have to be the most boring nerds on the face of the Earth. You are pretty much guaranteed an unremarkable life if you marry one.
Location definitely matters but more often than not, the difference in many ways comes down to what the girl did after high school.
Marriage age in China is 20 years for girls.
If she goes to a 2 year college she will get out around 21. So then she has 22-25 to find a man on her own. Family may try to find one for her, but she can also hunt herself via luck of getting approached by a guy they approve of. At 25-26 parents get very desperate because they all know it's a death sentence and start hunting furiously.
If she goes to a 4 year college, she will get out at ~22-23. She now has one less year range wise to find a husband before it gets too late. These women suffer the most in a way because their education can hurt them with certain men. It kinda makes them similar to American women repelling men that do not have the same level of education as them. All Shengnu I chatted with or dated were all university educated and some had a masters degree.
If she did not go to college at all, then she will 9/10 times be married by 23 and probably have a first baby before 24, unless she is very ugly and picky. This group has the lowest risk of the three.
Ugly millionaire daughters get suitors sometimes, but the parents are the ones that are picky and may demand a large hongbao from his family for letting their rich daughter marry him, causing their whole family to marry down. If they end up single by 25 the parents get desperate but if they are not 5-10, it gets much harder.
When Chinese go to college it is not like it is for us in the West. There is no such thing as a co-ed dormitory. There is no sneaking down the hallway or the other dorm to fuck your neighbors, while their roomates are down at the cafeteria. In fact having a boyfriend while enrolled gets you sent to the dean's office for discipline in some colleges. Colleges in China, especially 2 year ones, are literally boot camps. Six days a week, 12 hours a day. Fucking brutal. Their elite universities are more Western like. Even Chinese parents forbid dating until they finish their school.
All this is important to know when chasing school age girls. You can think you have bad game because they dissapeared on you. You may be surprised if one leaves your barn or stable because they have to return to school for the new semester. Young Chinese girls are active in the SUMMER MONTHS. Winter is a no go. Many live at schools before college, so if you want an 18 year old, you have your work cut out for you.
One good exploit for older men to getting 18 year olds back to the US as a wife is to either use online game and flex your financial and maturity at them. Present a large hong bao to her parents, NOT HER, and they will let her leave school and go back with you. Even though China's legal marriage age is 20, 18 year olds are allowed to get a K1 visa. This is what several ABCs in the US are doing. I had no idea until my wife got here that they were doing this in large numbers. I saw a few white guys in their 40's do this too. Not a bad thing IMO. I know most guys are players on this site, but if you are 40+ you can get something very pristine, often times virgin, fresh ovaries and uterus for babies, and mold-able. Trick is that you need to be very cultural aware and know how to set it up. Not hard if you start pipelining 18 year olds to find some. The online ones are good bets if you can get past the sausage fest of guys hitting on them, because they are looking for a marriage to begin with. Meet them in person and make sure you see their parents if you are want to bring her back. They will have to approve for you to even have a chance at bringing one back. WGF is strong and Asian Factor is very strong on this. If a black guy or Mexican could pull this off, I will buy you a case of beer for a reward.
I guess this is true, but it is slowly ceasing to be the case. Many girls I met in law school who came from China all had 1-3 boyfriends before they came over. And these girls went to some elite schools in China - Peking U, Tsinghua, Fudan, etc. Most girls say that in college is when most young chinese will have their first relationship. I'm sure there are restrictions, but you know, it's not that draconian anymore.
Quote: (08-07-2014 08:08 AM)UnW Wrote:
Goddamn, this is a complete encyclopedia. Will be likely to make a trip to China at some point in the next 6 months, very useful thread, thanks!
Sounds very accurate too, tome of these traits mentioned, I remember distinctly from the Chinese girls I've banged so far.
Quote: (08-07-2014 10:50 AM)Biologist Wrote:
TravelerKai, I glanced through your datasheet when you first posted it, but now I've had the chance to read it properly.
All I'm going to say is that this is by far the best datasheet I've read here on RVF - seriously. You have gone above and beyond in comprehensively covering every aspect of gaming in China.
+1 rep from me (I would rep you more than once if I could).
Quote: (09-27-2014 07:38 PM)extracube Wrote:
Traveler Kai said: "2) Jealous local men will not like you taking one of their women. They will give you that, "Like a Boss" Mean Mug look. Especially if you got one of their "easily obtainable ones" (4-6 looking women with a kind heart and low demands) If you take a bad-as-fuck 9 or 10 that walks like a diva with a nice ring on, they will ignore both of you. LOL! They will have that MUSTARD FACE instead."
Hi been reading through your big writeup and got some questions. But I think I'll just start with one for now. Question, you seem to say Chinese guy care more about their middle of the road 4 to 6's than the 8s 9s and 10s. Is this because 8s and above have too much attitude for them or something? You wouldn't hear this any where else in the world, I don't think.
How about this one from a youtube video. A shanghai girl maybe later 20s, entrepreneur, what do you think and does she pass the test or does she show "warning signs" of some sort:
(start at 1:45 until 7:15 ) and no it's not that girl you see in the stillframe:
Quote: (09-27-2014 10:24 PM)Mentavious Wrote:
So China lifted the ban on arming the police force?
What's the feeling there? I can't imagine police being trained in the use of firearms after decades without them
Quote: (09-27-2014 08:54 PM)Global Entry Wrote:
She's a cute enough girl, nice kinda vibe. (I tend to like Hunan women, in general, when they're young but many of the ones from the mountain regions grow old looking like tree stumps - they just get thicker and thicker somehow (like her mom), with plenty of exceptions to be sure). In China, most men would not find this girl particularly attractive, though her skin does appear to be pretty fair, which is an attraction. Hard to gauge her height. She's obviously from a poor region, and didn't even speak Mandarin when she hit Shanghai. Learned it fast enough, though it probably was one of many Hunan languages similar to Mandarin in structure. Her mandarin, to me, sounds pretty unstandard, and very typical of what you hear in Shenzhen.
As Kai knows, you don't really get extra points for taking care of your parents in China. Its more important for a girl to take care of her parents than her husband (he's third after her baby and her family).
That dude, I'm guessing, is a Russian (or maybe Polish). He has the sound of a
Quote: (09-28-2014 01:07 PM)berserk Wrote:
The more I see from China, the more I think so called professional leftover women from modest/poor background are some of the best prospects for a long term relationship/wife in Asia. The girl in the video to me was a 6 or so, cute, slim and sexy, but her face to me is mediocre. A question though for you TravelerKai and the rest of you, how does dating up/hypergamy work with these women? Are they like western women who have unrealistic demands or will they go for a dude who has a decent job, education etc, self employed without being a baller?