Quote: (08-11-2014 08:48 PM)monster Wrote:  

I know a dude like this - his whole self-paradigm is built on his being able to beat people up and that people are afraid of him.

Really fucked in the head.

News flash: "alpha male" is not about beating everyone up. It's about earning the respect legitimately through values and friendship.

Guys like this aren't useful for much.

They are too undisciplined to be in the military and even criminal orgs can't make use of unpredictable people who can't keep their shit together sometimes.

MMA was his only chance at making something of himself and even then he's mediocre against other skilled fighters.

Jail or death was the only realistic future outcome.

Come on who wouldn't bang

Why would he have a pornstar for a girlfriend in the first place?

Damn I'm watching all her sex tapes now and she likes it rough as fuck.

Quote: (08-11-2014 09:32 PM)Teddykgb Wrote:  

Damn I'm watching all her sex tapes now and she likes it rough as fuck.

Quote: (08-11-2014 09:12 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

My sympathy extends only to the extent that reading this story evokes in me a pathos for the human condition in general, rather than for these two bottom feeders

So that's what we have: evil against evil.

Yep, not taking a side in this one. The male - female dynamic is simply f'ed up these days and there is no one to point the finger too other than society. I've even seen college educated women with six figures salaries go for these types of men.

In America: being a piece of shit human being > being a productive member of society

I don't think they were really broken up, she RTed a picture of her sucking his dick that he tweeted less than a week ago.

I heard this guy on the Joe Rogan podcast a while ago, he definitely has some demons, but I didn't expect him to be this crazy. He definitely has mommy issues because on the podcast I vaguely remember him telling a story about how when he was young his single mom let her degenerate boyfriend spend his entire inheritance on drugs and when he found out he beat the man to within an inch of his life.

Why would you try to put a ring on this chick? Everything from her appearance to her profession is screaming "don't wife me!" but he chose to anyway. The same applies to her.

These two morons sound like characters out of a Tom Wolfe novelization of Charles Murray's Coming Apart.

Quote: (08-11-2014 09:16 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

I don't take pleasure in seeing anyone suffer, but it's difficult to have sympathy for this girl. She should have known the kind of man she was getting involved with. Women have to understand that there's always a price to pay for the 'gina tingles they instinctively get from violent, unpredictable men.

Anyway, I hope she makes a full recovery and is much wiser for the experience, and I hope he does at least a 10 year stretch. Clearly a menace to society at this point.

He fucked her up pretty bad. Not good.

I bet Stephen A. Smith isn't going to voice his opinion on this.

Quote: (08-12-2014 12:17 AM)JoyStick Wrote:  

I bet Stephen A. Smith isn't going to voice his opinion on this.

I wish that he could.
I'd you get with a thug, don't be surprised when he hits you. And if you stay with him after that, we should have little sympathy.

The same goes for dudes. If you date a woman that is jerk on earth to everyone else, it's only a matter of time before the hurricane hits you.

WIA

Quote: (08-11-2014 09:12 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

My sympathy extends only to the extent that reading this story evokes in me a pathos for the human condition in general, rather than for these two bottom feeders in particular.

I like how you said that..

I can respect that.

I agree with most of what you wrote.

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I do want to make a point about the word "evil".

Quote: (08-11-2014 09:12 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Evil against evil, Gio.

I must say, I don't believe in evil. There is no scientific evidence to support the existence of any supernatural force, good or evil.

I think people do bad things.. But, I don't think it is because of any non-human entity. (evil)

I don't think having sex for money is "evil". It might be desperate, greedy, short sighted, and/or unhealthy.. But, I don't think it represents any supernatural force of negativity. (evil)

I don't think fighting for money is "evil". It might be desperate, barbaric, violent, and/or unhealthy.. But, I don't think it represents any supernatural force of negativity.

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Just because a woman is a porn star or prostitute doesn't mean that she deserves a beating like this..

Prostitutes have provided sexual relief for man since the beginning of time.

They have a place in society.

If they are beaten, it should be because they stole, cheated, lied, etc.

Being a porn star with tattoos and a funny haircut might not be our ideal woman, but.. it is NOT a good enough reason to physically beat up a woman.

In my opinion.

***

The guy was stupid.

This was not worth it.

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Just because a man fights for a living doesn't mean that we should think any less of him.

Men have been fighting for freedom, food, pussy, their lives, etc. since the dawn of time.

***
Quintus Curtius,

Don't get me wrong, I agree with 99% of what you wrote.

I just felt the need to share my perspective here.

I think these people definitely have some problems that I wouldn't want my children to have.

I might be a little more sympathetic towards them than you are but that is a matter of taste, really.

I have a soft spot for fighters and girls that like to suck dick.

Quote: (08-11-2014 09:43 PM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

In America: being a piece of shit human being > being a productive member of society

I respectfully, yet, strongly disagree.

A productive person will get much further in America compared to a "piece of shit human being", on average.

I remember there being an incident where she tweeted about him beating her but then later on the tweets were deleted and they tried to play it off as a troll - a lot more chilling now

@Giovonny:


Thanks for responding to my recent post, Gio, and greetings to you in Bay area.

I suppose I should say that I tend to speak in exaggerated tones sometimes in order to make a point. The precise meanings of words can sometimes be obscured in a cloud of hyperbole, and for that I owe you additional explanation.

When I described our two lost souls here as "evil", I did not intend to use this adjective to describe their professions.

I have no doctrinal objections to the world's oldest profession, and recognize its lineage. The same rule applies to the martial artist. I have nothing against his profession and enjoy watching such bouts.

When I used the word "evil" to describe them, what I meant was something different: I meant that their inability to control the primitive and base urges in their characters had turned them from rational beings into depraved beings. They had failed to cultivate their characters, and had allowed their deviant urges to consume their better aspects.

Years of unhealthy living, drug use, debaucheries, unrestrained hedonism, and lack of discipline had turned both of these lost souls into beasts.

With regard to men, character must be molded and shaped through strict discipline, training of the mind, training of the body, and assumption of roles of greater and greater responsibility. This man fell victim to his animal urges, and became like an animal.

The woman here chose a similar path. Obsessed with the Priapic Mysteries, she threw herself into a life that led directly to a corruption of her powers of judgment. She was constitutionally incapable of making correct decisions that enhanced her safety and well-being.

Seen in this light, these two people are tragic figures. Tragedy to the ancient Greeks was the inability of a person to escape the consequences of his or her actions. Character determines fate. This has been proven over and over again.

So, this is what I meant by "evil." They permitted themselves to become corrupt, and this corruption led to their mutual downfall. Is this not tragic? I think it is.

All of us should be mindful of this, I think. I know I sound preachy and lecturing, but I believe in these things passionately and have written about them with stridency here and at ROK.

We mold our own characters. We shape our own destinies. If we fail to discipline our flaws, and accept no limits or balance to our behavior, then we will enter a very dangerous land. I would never advocate an ascetic life, only a moderation of pleasures and vices, to be part of a balanced, healthy life. All things in moderation, even virtue.

The hard road is the road seeking a balanced, virtuous life, without slipping into depravity. But there is no other choice. These two made their choices, and felt the results.

But enough of these matters, Giovonny. I should also say that I love typing your name. It has an appealing old-world Italian flavor to it, which for me is like an intoxicant. I hope you have a good week. When I returned from Japan in May and stopped over at the San Francisco airport, and saw all the attractive girls, I thought of you.



Be well,
Q

Quote: (08-12-2014 01:16 AM)Wutang Wrote:  

I remember there being an incident where she tweeted about him beating her but then later on the tweets were deleted and they tried to play it off as a troll - a lot more chilling now

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/8/10/460...k-mma-news

This must be what you remember:

http://www.bjpenn.com/quick-twitt-christ...-violence/

Quote: (08-11-2014 10:43 PM)Rush87 Wrote:  

He fucked her up pretty bad. Not good.

She needs to learn how to check leg kicks.

Quote: (08-12-2014 02:15 AM)Sturmgeist Wrote:  

She needs to learn how to check leg kicks.

Could be deadly.

Penelope Trunk, Abuser

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Why are borderlines attracted to broken men? To alcoholics? To rageful narcissists? Affect. "I never know what mood he'll be in." The range, the energy means you are connected. No abandonment is conceivable if the guy is beating you. "But he cheats on her as well!" He'll be back. Right?

This is set up in childhood 100% of the time. The kid learns what works, learns what gets him the affect he needs. If the parents are loving all the time not much "work" is necessary. But if Dad is distant, or interested in chasing skirts (such daughters grow up trying to look like the kind of girl Dad is attracted to), or mom's always drunk, then "work" happens, and the kid starts to try new ways of getting the affect, and unfortunately the easiest way to get sucky parents to give you affect is to enrage them. That works awesomely. The best is when the parent beats you mercilessly, and then does a 180 and apologizes profusely, hugs you, buys you gifts, "oh, baby, I am so sorry I did that, Daddy was just upset..." Nothing in life will ever match up to that, except maybe a boyfriend who does that. If you are doing that to your daughter, for god's sake join an infantry battalion or become a test pilot.

Remember: the goal of this strategy is not happiness, it is avoiding abandonment. Hence a blog.

Would not surprise me to find out she is in porn because of the indifference of her father.

Guys often say that women get into porn because of daddy issues, but they miss why. Women who pursue careers in porn or unpredictable men like War Machine is because they are terrified of male abandonment.

I am pretty sure that Mack is completely terrified of abandonment. She doesn't do what she does to affirm her self-identity as a sexually attractive woman, but to avoid being abandoned by men.

Disgusting woman, I wouldn't touch her with a 10 foot cock. But then again I hate tattoos.

WNB

Quote: (08-12-2014 01:32 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

@Giovonny:


Thanks for responding to my recent post, Gio, and greetings to you in Bay area.

I suppose I should say that I tend to speak in exaggerated tones sometimes in order to make a point. The precise meanings of words can sometimes be obscured in a cloud of hyperbole, and for that I owe you additional explanation.

When I described our two lost souls here as "evil", I did not intend to use this adjective to describe their professions.

I have no doctrinal objections to the world's oldest profession, and recognize its lineage. The same rule applies to the martial artist. I have nothing against his profession and enjoy watching such bouts.

When I used the word "evil" to describe them, what I meant was something different: I meant that their inability to control the primitive and base urges in their characters had turned them from rational beings into depraved beings. They had failed to cultivate their characters, and had allowed their deviant urges to consume their better aspects.

Years of unhealthy living, drug use, debaucheries, unrestrained hedonism, and lack of discipline had turned both of these lost souls into beasts.

With regard to men, character must be molded and shaped through strict discipline, training of the mind, training of the body, and assumption of roles of greater and greater responsibility. This man fell victim to his animal urges, and became like an animal.

The woman here chose a similar path. Obsessed with the Priapic Mysteries, she threw herself into a life that led directly to a corruption of her powers of judgment. She was constitutionally incapable of making correct decisions that enhanced her safety and well-being.

Seen in this light, these two people are tragic figures. Tragedy to the ancient Greeks was the inability of a person to escape the consequences of his or her actions. Character determines fate. This has been proven over and over again.

So, this is what I meant by "evil." They permitted themselves to become corrupt, and this corruption led to their mutual downfall. Is this not tragic? I think it is.

All of us should be mindful of this, I think. I know I sound preachy and lecturing, but I believe in these things passionately and have written about them with stridency here and at ROK.

We mold our own characters. We shape our own destinies. If we fail to discipline our flaws, and accept no limits or balance to our behavior, then we will enter a very dangerous land. I would never advocate an ascetic life, only a moderation of pleasures and vices, to be part of a balanced, healthy life. All things in moderation, even virtue.

The hard road is the road seeking a balanced, virtuous life, without slipping into depravity. But there is no other choice. These two made their choices, and felt the results.

But enough of these matters, Giovonny. I should also say that I love typing your name. It has an appealing old-world Italian flavor to it, which for me is like an intoxicant. I hope you have a good week. When I returned from Japan in May and stopped over at the San Francisco airport, and saw all the attractive girls, I thought of you.



Be well,
Q

The part in bold is basically the story of my earlier life. Growing up i had poor impulse control for certain activities and they most definitely would've landed me in prison for a very long time...

I had to learn to distance myself from the situations that would lead to that negative behavior.
In both cases of these tragic people they lacked direction from a stable father figure or even stable home to grow up in.
Her for doing some depraved things on screen for money and him for not being able to control his emotions to the point where he would beat 2 people that weren't threatening him.

Also she looked prettier with all of her hair and no tattoos.
Now she's the girl you meet at the club, take home and do all the shit you see in porn with. Give her cab fair and never call her again. She isn't quality.

This situation is not unlike when Tito Ortiz was with Jenna Jameson. there was allegations he hit her and abused her verbally but eventually it was discovered she was mentally unstable. I think her having hit the wall and not doing porn anymore was a factor. Now she's camwhoring for money while Tito is training fighters.
Not saying these guys chose badly for gf's or wives but definitely they have blue pill views in regards the type of women they let close to them.

Quote: (08-11-2014 07:35 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Seriously dude?

WIA

Quote: (08-11-2014 08:15 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

I'm not a doctor but I am a trained (inexperienced) EMT and her facial swelling, especially the bruising on her eyes, says basilar skull fracture to me. You don't get facial swelling like that without smashing your face into something, or in this case having something smashed into your face. I can easily believe she has a handful of facial fractures based on the pictures alone.

The leg injury might be a hairline fracture somewhere, or just significant soft tissue damage that made her stiffen up so much she can't use her leg. Who knows, maybe she has torn muscles or tendon issues.

Don't know about the rib and liver, but if she had a lacerated liver it couldn't have been too bad or she would've A) bled to death or B) needed immediate surgery at the ER before she bled to death internally. However, I am positive I could give a woman internal bleeding with a single kick, and I'm also positive a pro MMA fighter can kick harder than I can, so I don't find her claim unrealistic.

I could show you a lot of injuries as a result of fighting between men where these were not experienced, strong fighters and one guy had his face really messed up. I am talking nose mushed into a pancake or to the side and the ridge split wide open.

I can show you pictures where teeth are missing and the jawline is out of position. All from amateur street fighting with no real power coming from it.

The human skull is designed to take a beating from the front, but not the face. She looks nowhere near as bad as she could be if this guy really wanted to smash her up or kill her.

Hell the fights I have been involved with some guys nose exploded upon impact. Her nose is basically untouched compared to what it should be had he used his full fists to the front of her face.

Quote: (08-12-2014 02:13 AM)weambulance Wrote:  

Quote: (08-12-2014 01:16 AM)Wutang Wrote:  

I remember there being an incident where she tweeted about him beating her but then later on the tweets were deleted and they tried to play it off as a troll - a lot more chilling now

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/8/10/460...k-mma-news

This must be what you remember:

http://www.bjpenn.com/quick-twitt-christ...-violence/

Found the story I was looking for: http://whoatv.com/christy-mack-claims-wa...-kill-her/

I can totally see WM smacking her a few times before but her always coming back.

Strippers, porn stars, and other women involved in sex work tend to have all the typical, stereotypical negative feminine traits but turned up to 11 - particular examples are extreme narcissism and in this case, attraction to bad boys.

I remember in that video Suits posted a few months back from efukt of Britnney Skye going to bang some 26 year old virgin who had begged some porn site owner for the chance. When they were interviewing her and asking her about what her ideal man was she said it was a super tattooed guy singing in a really heavy, brutal metal band. She also talked about how she hated it when men cried and that they "should just stop being a pussy" lol So basically take the tingles a typical girl would feel for the bad boy and multiple it by 10.

I think the discourse in this thread has been really interesting and there's a lot to draw from it. I pity this girl, assuming she didn't hit him at all.

However, I couldn't stop laughing at the title of the thread, with my sick fucking sense of humor. It sounds like a MMA matchup or something. Am I the only one?

I was going to make a "She was just working from home" joke but thought that might have been too much lol