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07-11-2014, 10:33 PM
I could see star college football players, nationally touring rock bands, massively jacked dudes on the beach with 6% body fat, etc. going up to a girl or her coming up to you-opener, small talk, pull away to a isolated spot, bang within an hour or less.
What kind of things are said to girls? Or do the girls say-in this elite level of game?
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07-11-2014, 11:02 PM
It's not impossible for the average joe but it's definitely difficult. I think what matters the most, though, are:
1. How well is the girl vibing with you? Is she asking a lot of (personal) questions? Does she seem interested?
2. Is it convenient for her to leave with you? What's she doing at the moment or in the next couple of hours? A girl that has nothing to do later on in the day would be more willing to go home with you than a girl that has to work later.
3. Does she find you attractive enough to fuck you in a few hours? This can be mitigated with tight game but it does play a major role in a girl's decision to go home with you or not.
4. Do you have optimal logistics? How far is the venue you're at from your home? Is it walking distance?
5. Reflecting back on point 1, were there any shared interests that you can use to bait her back to your home? For example, perhaps you're a photographer and she's into a photography. You can try to get her back to your house by offering to show her some photos you took.
6. Is she a prude or a whore? It'll be difficult to bang the former within a couple of hours while significantly less so than the latter.
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07-11-2014, 11:26 PM
I don't fit your definition of a top alpha, but I've done it.
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07-11-2014, 11:52 PM
^^^^ yup, me too. As much as I'd like to say tight game did it, in these cases, I think luck plays a major factor. The stars need to align.
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07-12-2014, 01:38 AM
Im not a top alpha (though Im 6'4" master race)
but I met girls on the street, met up a day later, went straight do my place and had my dick in them in under an hour
never on the same day though but thats more of a logistical issue
im actually seeing a girl right now and we never went on a date. I pulled her right to my place and since then she just comes over for sex.
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07-12-2014, 01:46 AM
My quickest pickup was 5 minutes.
Walked in a club stood at the bar and a Tara Reid (when she was hot) lookalike was beside me. She said "you have a great ass" (I was wearing jeans, boots and fitted T) and I said "yours isn't too bad either". She said "let's get out of here". Took my hand and 15 minutes later was banging her.
Second quickest bang was around 25-30minutes as well and one of the hottest chicks I've ever banged, a 10 if there ever was one. Spotted her across the street when the club let out, I let go of the chick's hand I was holding who I had just pulled, and bounced across the street. Said "Damn you are fucking gorgeous, you're coming with me". She didnt question it, jumped in my buddy's Benz and went to an Afterhours club. Took her to the 2nd level inside a bathroom, ripped her fishnet stockings apart in the crotch and banged.
Both of these situations were obviously timing. 5 minutes delay etc could have made these never happen.
It's mainly:
-Timing
-Frame + Dominance: seeing what you want and immediately seizing the opportunity like a boss.
-Logistics
-Being her type
EDIT: The lesson here is similar to the old phrase about success: preparation meets opportunity.
In these cases my game was top-notch and I had enough experience to see the opportunities and not fuck them up by overgaming or missing tell-tale signs.
Everyone wants to fuck dimes, but I went through a lot of 6's and 7's to know what the hell to do with dimes.
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07-12-2014, 06:19 AM
There's this myth that female desire is a timid, easily-startled faun. If you push her buttons enough, and she wants you, she'll find a way to fuck you. Especially in places where the girls are natural sloots, like raves, and bike / car shows. Sometimes you just really have chemistry and she's ready to bang fast, so it's just like normal game with less resistance and no bitch shield. My best mate is 6ft4 and 120kgs of muscle and I've seen chicks not open him, but present themselves to him, like cats on heat.
My quickest bang was within 3 minutes on an underground train late one night. A damn fine blonde entered my car, sat a couple of seats up from me, eye fucked me, walked to the door at the end of the carriage and curled a finger at me, then exited. Followed her, she attacked me with her kisses. Fucked her in between the cars with the hot wind and gritty subway smell blasting past. Stayed inside her at the stations, wondering - kinda hoping really - if someone would see us. Had one of those orgasms so intense you wonder if it's blasting out your ears.
After we finished, she finally spoke: "Thank you, but don't follow me."
Yeah, I know, it sounds all Penthouse Forum, "I never thought your letters were real until this happened to me..." bullshit but sometimes things just click. In this particular case, judging from her slightly-smeared mascara, I'd say she'd just broken up with a guy, and wanted to hump me since her ego was threatened and she wanted to feel better about herself. I'm not complaining.
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07-12-2014, 06:48 AM
I've had sex on the dance floor of a club in my 2nd year of university and probably met the girl 10 minutes before. It was literally all her doing; I just went along with it.
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07-12-2014, 09:03 AM
I once opened a girl with a neg. She made a three word retort. Them we started kissing and she said let's get out of here. But that was at a pickup bar.
Second time I bumped into her she left her friends to go have sex with me. It was ravenous and we fucked in the exit turn style of a subway station.
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07-12-2014, 09:29 AM
Regarding getting a day bang, I have done it once a while back, tall average Scandinavian chick.
it was when I was living at a beach house with 6 people.
what I did was target the tourists and avoid locals since locals always have things to do and I don't have the game to pull locals. While tourists are just meandering away, so more chance I can control and lead rather than encounter some I-phone junkie.
I approached literally 10 min away from the house and made an excuse like check out the bar at our house
I think what made it happen were logistics were tight and I kept the girl in the moment.
I'm an average Joe BTW, below average in facial looks, not some good looking tall dude, so for me , this helped a lot for my internals.
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07-12-2014, 09:39 AM
I've banged a girl from cold approach within 10 minutes of meeting her. Met her on the dance floor, I had a strong DTF gut feeling from her, kiss, isolated to patio, fingered her in the corner. Told her I had to take a piss and took her with me to the single serving washroom downstairs in the bar.
I've also gone on more than 2 dates with a girl that was into me, and we escalated throughout the dates, making out, some intimate touching and I didn't end up banging her because she eventually flaked.
There's definitely luck and coincidence involved sometimes. Although a lot of it you can control, some of it is outside your sphere of influence. It is what it is.
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07-12-2014, 10:56 AM
^ the second video, is that supposed to be like the British version of Jersey Shore or something?
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07-12-2014, 11:10 AM
Something for new guys to understand:
When chicks get horny - they get really horny. If you catch a girl in this state and you're her type things will happen very fast.
When I was in college I threw a big party for my birthday. The entire dorm floor was opened up and we were partying in the common area. A girl walked in and asked where a certain room number was, I told her it was downstairs, she came back a few minutes later and said no one was there. I told her to party with us and it was my birthday. We start dancing, she kisses me, then I take her back to my room. She takes off her sweater and there's nothing on underneath. My guess is she wanted a quick bang with whomever lived downstairs and he wasn't home and figured I'd do. Total time from first interaction to piv was less than 10 minutes.
Keep yourself in decent shape, always dress well when you go out, and keep your place clean and ready for action. You never know who you're going to meet.
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07-12-2014, 12:21 PM
I don't know that the term "Top Alpha" really means anything in the context of a cold approach since you're removed from an immediate hierarchy.
But I've pulled girls on the street and brought them back to my place within an hour or two several times.
Once I shagged a cute German au pair I saw in a Starbucks in Miami Beach.
I walked in for a latte and saw her sitting by herself noodling on her phone. She looked up and we locked eyes and she quickly glanced down.
But in that half-second I knew she was down like Charlie Brown. So I came over, chit-chatted, took her to the beach for a makeout session and then walked back to my apartment like it was the most natural thing in the world (and truly, isn't it?)
About 60 minutes from meet to bang.
Like McQueen pointed out, it's a confluence of factors: a keen eye for opportunity, the balls to immediately seize that opportunity, the experience to know what to do with the opportunity, and the logistics to allow you to strike while the iron is hot.
And like a lot of other posters, several of the hottest girls I've banged were the result of direct, sexually loaded cold approaches in the daytime or night time.
There's nothing quite as satisfying as seeing a gorgeous chick in the wild, wrassling her in and tapping that ass.
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07-12-2014, 02:43 PM
To pull it off you need to be on the go until her pants are off and you're inside her. Giving her time to react makes her open to refusal.
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07-12-2014, 03:51 PM
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Quote: (07-12-2014 12:21 PM)VincentVinturi Wrote:
the balls to immediately seize that opportunity, the experience to know what to do with the opportunity, and the logistics to allow you to strike while the iron is hot.
btw--im no top alpha or redpiller
Too much drama for a hit it and quit it brutha such as myself
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