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(07-11-2014 10:33 PM)J556 Wrote:  

I could see star college football players, nationally touring rock bands, massively jacked dudes on the beach with 6% body fat, etc. going up to a girl or her coming up to you-opener, small talk, pull away to a isolated spot, bang within an hour or less.

What kind of things are said to girls? Or do the girls say-in this elite level of game?

my first close from game actually took me < 10 minutes. What made it crazier is it happened during the day inside of a bookstore restroom. That isn't an environment where people are known for being horny. Goes to show anything is possible.

My only input here is to be direct. She can help you out if she thinks you want her as a woman.

[RockHard]

(07-12-2014 12:21 PM)VincentVinturi Wrote:  

Like McQueen pointed out, it's a confluence of factors: a keen eye for opportunity, the balls to immediately seize that opportunity, the experience to know what to do with the opportunity, and the logistics to allow you to strike while the iron is hot.

Half these "approaches" were the girl giving the player an IOI and he acted on it. Sometimes the pussy just falls in your lap and all you have to do is take it. Unless you're a dummy like me and you don't pick up the signals or you overthink things, or you don't have the logistics, or you just don't believe in yourself enough to realize that there's a certain # of chicks out there that are automatically attracted to you because your hairstyle or your tatts or your suit or whatever superficial trigger she has.

This is where the killer instinct comes in. At some point during the pickup, she's going to give you "the look" and you know it's on. If you're used to plowing, building comfort, building attraction, it can really throw you off if you get that within the first couple minutes. You'll be thinking something's wrong, she can't possibly be that attracted to you... wait a minute, I haven't even run the cube yet!

All it is is that she's at the right point in her cycle, you're hitting enough of her buttons, and she's the kind of girl that's ready to seal the deal with just those conditions. Worst thing you can do is take the time to figure it out.

(07-15-2014 01:09 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  

What I've come to realise with these guys is that game is completely irrelevant, timing is irrelevant [They'll make time], friends are irrelevant. Where I need to be virtually perfect to pick up a nine, they can commit every single gaming flaw in the book.

We've talked about good looking guy game. You mentioned timing & friends (logistics) - they have that locked up because they don't have any hesitation about what their friends are going to think, or where they're going to take her. They have the aggressiveness. Being good looking helps their confidence because they get validated all the time. Yeah, it's easy for good looking guys. Luckily for the rest of us, there are other strategies.

[soup]

Game boils down to not be reactive and taking action without needing permission.

An alpha doesn't need permission to approach women. It's understood.

When he bangs them on the same day, it's understood.

He doesn't wait for iois, his presence causes the girls to fidget with their hair and bite their lips and all that other IOU stuff. He doesn't wait, he precipitates them.

He's the microwave and she's the microwaveable popcorn.

[heavy]

OP I thought was originally thinking non-club/bar drunk game, but I could be wrong. Good comments soup. Here's my bar story.

Within 30 minutes. Stars aligned. She was 23, prob a 7, cute Midwestern girl. I was grabbing a drink and started hitting it off with her. She bragged about how smart she is, even telling me her test scores. She lied that her friends were there and she couldn't find them. Suffice to say I fucked her 3 hours solid, she loved it, some of the best sex I've ever had.

So I put her # in phone, drove home at 4:30 am, and never talked to her again. I didn't want anything to do with her. She was so hateful about the world...which came thru via fem views.

Note I was not at the top of my game when this happened. Easiest fucking pickup I've ever done, so yeah, luck, a lot of right time right slut.

Edit: Dammit, I just re-read the thread title. I'm nowhere near a top alpha, so I digress. I'll leave the story though.

[Blobert]

Getting with a girl in the night is a very different thing from a day approach though. Of course when girls are drunk, horny, and you happen to come along at the right moment and don't screw up, it's on right there.

During daytime though, it's much harder to imagine how to pull this smoothly when girls are not in Party Mode. I'd be much more interested in stories about that personally.

[Rush87]

Quote:

We've talked about good looking guy game. You mentioned timing & friends (logistics) - they have that locked up because they don't have any hesitation about what their friends are going to think, or where they're going to take her. They have the aggressiveness. Being good looking helps their confidence because they get validated all the time. Yeah, it's easy for good looking guys. Luckily for the rest of us, there are other strategies.

There 100% is other strategies for guys who are only 8/10 or less. OP mentioned the question 'What do top alphas do?' - For the most part I'm just pointing out that the majority of what they do is useless [Typically game ruining] unless you're that top 1%.

[bacan]

That's crazy to think those guys just spend 30 second talking to girls before going home with them. What setting is this? Small town or big city or college? Parties or clubs or bars?

[Vaun]

Yes, my last one was two weeks ago. 3-4 hours because it was July 4th, because there were fireworks you know.

[Qwest]

Cold approached a hot French Moroccan in Paris two summers ago at about 4:30 in the afternoon as she was strolling down the street. Said hello to her and asked where she was headed to. She said she was going for a drink, so I asked with who as she was solo. She said "by myself". I told her "Not anymore" and she replied with a smile and said "OK". Spent the afternoon and evening with her drinking wine and went back and banged all night.

She looked at me like a night in shining armor approaching her on a day when I think she was lonely and looking for company. About an hour in when I kissed her she started staring off into the sky saying "I can't believe this is happening" and that's when I knew it was a wrap.

To this day she is on the team as part of my little European harem when in town.

Have pulled a couple less than 5 minute from meeting bangs but both were at night which this post wasn't really about.

[Rush87]

(07-16-2014 10:26 PM)bacan Wrote:  

That's crazy to think those guys just spend 30 second talking to girls before going home with them. What setting is this? Small town or big city or college? Parties or clubs or bars?

Big city, Sydney. The city itself a pretty brutal for 99.9% of guys but when you fit the build of that small minority it's amazing just how slutty the girls are.

[Goldmund]

Girls get so out of control when they get turned on, they will fuck faster than you would ever expect.

It's all about pushing the right buttons at the right time.

I was able to do this last night and describe it here: First Night in NOLA, Bang Within the Hour (NSFW real pics)

This chick was banging hot too.

Does not happen as often as I like, but when it does...all the times I have been rejected from being overtly direct are worth it.