Do Gypsies need a visa to enter Russia? All the more reason for Roosh to head there next Paul/Andre decides to follow

Quote: (03-02-2014 02:45 PM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

I knew all this roided Super Alpha, MMA, juicing, know-how-to-fight unrelated-to-game bullshit would end badly, but I never thought it would affect Roosh himself. This sucks.

The Andre guy is obviously mentally ill and had a psychotic obsession with Roosh. This is a situation that can easily lead to violence. Nothing to do with "MMA" etc. All this is irrelevant now we just need to figure out how to help him.

I hope he keeps his cool and his mouth shut.

Wow...this sucks big time. If this definitely has something to do with the stalker gypsy, is it possible that he heard the latest Roosh/McQueen podcast, heard himself and his antics mentioned and plotted this? Hope Roosh gets out of this fine.

Maybe he got charged with the equivalent of aggravated assault, if that's the case he shouldn't be in that much trouble right?

Quote: (03-02-2014 02:46 PM)Walter White Wrote:  

BTW, you mentioned "serious injuries". Can we confirm that Roosh is not injured? He seemed OK in the picture. Legal trouble is bad, but physical harm is worse. I'm hoping Roosh is ok physically and emotionally. Seems like a strong-minded dude so I presume he's coping well enough.

Do we have any idea as to the extent of the injuries to the other guy?

Any sort of cut that has bleeding will be called "serious" and he'll most likely have the medium to high range charge thrown at him initially since that can always be reduced.

Roosh needs to keep quiet until he can speak to a lawyer.

Rutting Elephant - This has zero to do with any of that. It seems like some of you guys are not even reading the updates or able to digest information to update your thinking.

Quote: (03-02-2014 02:49 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Do Gypsies need a visa to enter Russia? All the more reason for Roosh to head there next Paul/Andre decides to follow

Russia has more than it's fair share of native born Gypsies.

US Consulates are required to make contact with American citizens being held abroad, and help them with their situation. This weblink has an email address and phone number that can be used to contact the US Consulate in Krackow.

I found near the bottom of the link a clear reference to some violent altercation that may or may not have something to do with this. Read the paragraph marked "Announcements" at the bottom of this link:

http://krakow.usconsulate.gov/service.html

Someone who is on the ground in Poland (RVF member or whatever) might be able to find out more....

This is the "Announcement" cut and pasted:


Announcements

Krakow: Caution Recommended at Area Night Clubs
The U.S. Consulate General in Krakow encourages U.S. citizens to exercise caution at bars and clubs in Krakow. When visiting clubs, bars, and other public places you should be aware of your surroundings and try to avoid conflicts. Recently an extremely violent assault was reported at Club Hedonic on Szewska Street 9 in Krakow. As a result of this incident, the club has been designated as “off-limits” for U.S. Government personnel. We recommend exercising extreme caution in the vicinity of this night club. If you witness or become involved in a violent attack, extricate yourself from the situation as quickly as possible. Contact the nearest police officer immediately and notify the American Citizen Services section at the Consulate.


This might have nothing to do with Roosh. I don't know if he's even in Krackow. But the consulate people need to be providing info regardless.

By the way -- whoever is going to defend Roosh needs to know about all the fake Facebook, Twitter etc accounts Andre was setting up falsely accusing Roosh of various crimes, and all the other disinformation he was spreading about him. I hope all this stuff is cached online. It's evidence that this guy had a long-standing psychotic obsession with Roosh and can potentially be crucial to the case.

Quote: (03-02-2014 02:39 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I too was hopeful this was some sort of joke--even if it meant me having egg on my face--but I just got a message from a second source. This is a guy who does back-end work for ROK and I've personally met, so I have no reason to doubt him.

Roosh is definitely being charged with a (serious) crime. The gypsy apparently took a nasty beating. What's more, witnesses (who may be acquaintances of the gypsy) claim that Roosh was speaking epithets at him and may have used an object to strike him. I don't know what the Polish laws are, but these circumstances apparently add to the severity of the crime. I got a couple of calls out to see what his legal prospects are, but the language barriers and time difference are making information hard to come by.

Looks like a pure setup. Roosh will be bailed out by the US in exchange of his "silence" on key issues.

Quote: (03-02-2014 02:52 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Rutting Elephant - This has zero to do with any of that. It seems like some of you guys are not even reading the updates or able to digest information to update your thinking.

Yeah, sorry. Recent tough-guy forum flameouts don't reflect on Roosh himself, of course. This Gypsy guy must really have fucked with / framed him.

What's the story with this gypsy?

Does he know about roosh by his online activity or?

Ok, everyone take a deep breath. What do we know?

1. Roosh is detained by the Polish authorities
2. He appears not to need medical attention
3. The charges against him may result in some time in jail/prison.

So the task at hand is to get competent legal representation to him ASAP.

Let's talk solutions:
Anyone have connections (legal or at least linguistic/cultural familiarity) on the ground?

What is the best method to collect/store funds?

What other resources do forum members have that could be used to get a lawyer to him?

In addition to sending money, I have about 120k miles through United/Star Alliance that I am willing to donate.

It's important not to get caught up on speculation about what may happen to the forum, who the other party was, etc. Focus on the task at hand and let the situation develop.

Any other ideas?

Now, while keeping this forum up so we can hang out and BS here is not as important as Roosh's well-being, I have done a bit of research about the "how long the forum will still be around" question. Should this, heaven forbid, be a long term problem, the forum should run fine for a few months, but there will be no new users until this is sorted out:

• It appears that the rooshvforum server is completely managed, which means that someone will keep the system up to date with regard to security bugs and what not for as long as the account is active.
• It is not possible to post with new accounts; while I was able to create a test account ("delete_this_account"), the account will not be able to make postings until someone activates it (please don't activate it). With MyBB, moderators can not activate accounts -- only the admin (unless Roosh added the "Activate Users from Mod CP" plugin)
• MyBB fairly frequently needs to be updated (about every two to three months). The forum will still run fine without being updated, but MyBB has a history of a fairly large number of security holes found in it which should be plugged up.
• The rooshvforum.network domain will not expire until 2015. The forum will almost certainly be shut down for non-payment of hosting fees before then (if Roosh doesn't make bail or however that's done in Poland and get out within a week, someone should call the hosting company to see if they will accept a third-party payment for hosting renewal)
  

To answer another question:

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What's the story with this gypsy?

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-32570.html

Quote: (03-02-2014 02:57 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

What's the story with this gypsy?

Does he know about roosh by his online activity or?

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-32570.html

Quote: (03-02-2014 02:52 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Any sort of cut that has bleeding will be called "serious" and he'll most likely have the medium to high range charge thrown at him initially since that can always be reduced.

I've glanced at the Polish Criminal Code, although I'm not sure how accurate the translation is. It's actually somewhat similar in content to the assault statute in the state in which I practice, although the organization of the statute is really awful. Any injury which lasts for seven days, or any injury more serious than that, carries from several months to several years in jail. Roosh needs the best local Wroclaw lawyer he can possibly find.

I missed the boat on the original Paul/Andre topic so went back and read it. Jesus. Complete scum & stain on society.

Hoping this gets sorted out quickly and cleanly, poor Roosh... this is so fucked up.

Quote: (03-02-2014 02:57 PM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

What's the story with this gypsy?

Does he know about roosh by his online activity or?

Apparently they hung out in person a few times until he got too clingy and Roosh stopped talking to him and then found out that he was cockblocking him on Facebook and messaging girls Roosh was seeing behind his back. Feel free to correct me but that was my understanding of the issue.

Oh, and they also had a confrontation a few days ago but nothing happened and this guy also had a few twitter and facebook accounts designed to trash Roosh.

How about everyone stops speculating and we wait what the real situation is? (The only good advice so far is that he needs a lawyer)

I hope that if he's getting charged, that he at least beat the piss out of that guy.

But seriously, anyone have connections in Poland that could help?

#freeroosh

should this thread / post be put in other areas of the forum

I live in roosh's hometown of silver springs / rockville if that is helpful

Keep ya head up Roosh. Don't sweat it. Use the time to catch up on sleep and reading.

Quote: (03-02-2014 02:46 PM)Walter White Wrote:  

He seemed OK in the picture.

I think the picture is from a museum in Berlin, as a few others have pointed out. That's not to say he hasn't been arrested though, the pic is a bit iffy though. I don't know why whoever sent it to Tuth would use it....

Quote: (03-02-2014 03:04 PM)toeknee Wrote:  

should this thread / post be put in other areas of the forum

I live in roosh's hometown of silver springs / rockville if that is helpful

If you really live in Silver Spring, I'm pretty sure you would know the name of the town doesn't have an "s" on the end of it.

Quote: (03-02-2014 03:03 PM)peterthephoenix Wrote:  

I hope that if he's getting charged, that he at least beat the piss out of that guy.

But seriously, anyone have connections in Poland that could help?

#freeroosh

Yes I hope Roosh got some Gypsy Tears as a trophy at least.