Steak, cigs, vodka and fucking women raw were good enough for the Rat Pack...

...and it's damn good enough for me.

I could care less if other people eat meat or not; it's their rightful choice, but I love meat, especially a medium rare steak.

Ironic though how in this day and age, EVERYTHING is bad for you, based on which study that comes out.

If I die early because of having refreshing smokes, drinking top shelf smooth vodka, eating juicy mouth watering steaks, or fucking fresh tight pink pussy, then so be it.

I'll have had a helluva time doing it.

because bacon

Quote: (12-12-2013 04:54 AM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  

Steak, cigs, vodka and fucking women raw were good enough for the Rat Pack...

...and it's damn good enough for me.

I could care less if other people eat meat or not; it's their rightful choice, but I love meat, especially a medium rare steak.

Ironic though how in this day and age, EVERYTHING is bad for you, based on which study that comes out.

If I die early because of having refreshing smokes, drinking top shelf smooth vodka, eating juicy mouth watering steaks, or fucking fresh tight pink pussy, then so be it.

I'll have had a helluva time doing it.

That's cool bro, and you have my support. However;

The way I look at things, is that if I leave out the smoking, eat less meat and drink less whiskey (I'm more of a whiskey guy than a vodka guy), I'll be looking younger longer and I'll stay healthy and fit for a longer period, meaning I'd still be able to game young chicks and keep up with them when I'm in my forties.

Not to mention that smoking really has become an inconvenience here in West-Europe. You're not allowed to smoke anywhere anymore. I can't even smoke inside my own home because the house owner doesn't allow it. So because of that I stopped smoking. I feel a lot better ever since.

Quote: (12-12-2013 03:21 AM)MidniteSpecial Wrote:  

Make half your diet raw fruits and vegetables and the rest steamed veg and clean meats. Can't go wrong. Midnitespecial approved.

I can't argue with that.

Quote: (12-11-2013 07:05 PM)Mr. Calicoat Wrote:  

Eskimos are an exception to the rule really, they're not the ultimate proof that humans can (or are meant to be) eat tons of meat without getting health problems.

While it's true that diary products, grain and corn are a lot worse for us than meat, and while it's true that meat in small amounts is very healthy, especially if you work-out, eating lots of meat is by no means healthy, especially not red meat, which is the worst kind of meat for us humans.

You can see that a high-fiber diet is much more important for human-beings who want to live healthy, while carbs on the other hand are better cut low. The idea that meat is the best source of food for muscle-growth is quite frankly, a myth. High-fiber products such as broccoli, berries and spinach is what you need for muscle gain. Red meat can be beneficial too, but only if it's grass-fed and occasional. Everyone knows that eating lots of red meat is directly related to many of the health problems we often see in our modern-day western society. Just look at the diet of an average obese fat-ass cunt who suffers from type 2 diabetes and a high cholesterol. They're all primarily meat eaters, red meat eaters.

Now of course if you live an active life, you sleep enough and at regular times, work-out and eat enough high-fiber products, you're not gonna notice the negative effects of too much red meat. You're probably gonna feel just fine. But if you don't have such a lifestyle and you still eat too much (red) meat, then you can bet your sweet cheeks that sooner or later you're gonna notice the negative effects of it.

Being healthy is all about balance, and in this case, an occasional home-made hamburger 3-4 times a week is the correct balance to gain all the benefits of eating meat, while not suffering from the negatives.

I am sorry but this is a load of bullshit.

Quote: (12-12-2013 06:01 AM)FretDancer Wrote:  

Quote: (12-11-2013 07:05 PM)Mr. Calicoat Wrote:  

Eskimos are an exception to the rule really, they're not the ultimate proof that humans can (or are meant to be) eat tons of meat without getting health problems.

While it's true that diary products, grain and corn are a lot worse for us than meat, and while it's true that meat in small amounts is very healthy, especially if you work-out, eating lots of meat is by no means healthy, especially not red meat, which is the worst kind of meat for us humans.

You can see that a high-fiber diet is much more important for human-beings who want to live healthy, while carbs on the other hand are better cut low. The idea that meat is the best source of food for muscle-growth is quite frankly, a myth. High-fiber products such as broccoli, berries and spinach is what you need for muscle gain. Red meat can be beneficial too, but only if it's grass-fed and occasional. Everyone knows that eating lots of red meat is directly related to many of the health problems we often see in our modern-day western society. Just look at the diet of an average obese fat-ass cunt who suffers from type 2 diabetes and a high cholesterol. They're all primarily meat eaters, red meat eaters.

Now of course if you live an active life, you sleep enough and at regular times, work-out and eat enough high-fiber products, you're not gonna notice the negative effects of too much red meat. You're probably gonna feel just fine. But if you don't have such a lifestyle and you still eat too much (red) meat, then you can bet your sweet cheeks that sooner or later you're gonna notice the negative effects of it.

Being healthy is all about balance, and in this case, an occasional home-made hamburger 3-4 times a week is the correct balance to gain all the benefits of eating meat, while not suffering from the negatives.

I am sorry but this is a load of bullshit.

How about you tell me how I'm wrong rather than just blatantly claiming it's bullshit without offering a counter-argument?

I can speak from personal experience that I never was able to get a nice six-pack, until I started to cut back on the red meat and ate more spinach, broccoli, almonds, soy products and occasionally fish such as salmon. How do you explain that?

Quote: (12-12-2013 06:48 AM)Mr. Calicoat Wrote:  

How about you tell me how I'm wrong rather than just blatantly claiming it's bullshit without offering a counter-argument?

I can speak from personal experience that I never was able to get a nice six-pack, until I started to cut back on the red meat and ate more spinach, broccoli, almonds, soy products and occasionally fish such as salmon. How do you explain that?

The fabled "six pack" is largely a result of diet, not muscle gain. You cut fat by reducing caloric intake. Not surprising. (Though congratulations are in order as it's not an easy achievement.)

Forget the six pack. What do you bench, squat, and deadlift?

The macro-nutrient responsible for muscle growth and gain is Protein, not fiber. You can eat all the fiber in the world and lift but if your protein intake is not high enough you will not trigger muscle growth.

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I can speak from personal experience that I never was able to get a nice six-pack, until I started to cut back on the red meat and ate more spinach, broccoli, almonds, soy products and occasionally fish such as salmon. How do you explain that?

This is a completely different topic. Muscle growth is not the same as fat loss. Not surprising since those foods you listed are relatively low on calories.

Well fair enough guys, I stand corrected.

I'm by no means a diet expert and I'm still learning. I get most of my info from my best friend who's a nutritionist. So either he misinformed me or I misunderstood him. Most likely the latter. It was his idea to cut back in the meat and start eating more spinach, broccoli, almonds and salmon and it worked for me.

That said, red meat is not at all the best source for proteins according to him. Fish and chicken is much better if I have to believe him.

Quote: (12-12-2013 03:02 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Yeah, any grains. Vegetables don't seem to be enough fibre alone for me, which is odd considering the amount I eat. I'm going to try Paleo again after christmas to get very cut for a movie role I'm doing and I'll try to figure out the constipation problem in the process. I'll admit it could be a problem unique to me. I'm sure there's enough information in the forum for me to read up on with some searching.

Isn't Green Juicing the latest fad? I eat kale or spinach, courgettes, brocolli, brussell sprouts, snow peas or beans and apples on a daily basis anyway. Cabbage now and then. I love the individual texture and tastes of vegetables, (particularly my homegrown seasonal ones), and know how to cook them to bring out or compliment their flavours, so I don't see the advantage of mashing up something I already enjoy into a sludge. I can see it appealing as a trend to female cubicle workers for the laziness of it. Sell me on the pluses of it from your viewpoint.

Are you using a blender? Traditional juicers would remove the fibre - soluble vegetable fibre lowers your blood pressure and cholesterol.

I use a champion juicer. It removes some large fibers but I don't buy that notion that a super high fiber diet is necessary.

If you're eating a large amount of vegetables and you're having issues with regularity, something is off. I've always found eggs to be a natural laxative, as well as hot tea.

Green juice may be a recent fad, but the amount of vegetables that I pack into one quart of juice is far more than you could ever eat in a sitting. Since I don't sit down and eat full proper meals, I like being able to consume concentrated nutrition like that.

Try it for yourself.

Quote: (12-12-2013 05:18 AM)johnwu Wrote:  

because bacon

Quote: (12-11-2013 06:32 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

This thread needs more masculinity.
Red pill=red meat







Who's with me?

I evolved from:





And no amount of science can prove otherwise. My only purpose in life is to kill, eat meat and fuck. People that think we came from monkey are just scared and want to live in trees. Just don't come down to ground level, or you'll have to deal with the Alisaurus.

Quote: (12-11-2013 11:58 AM)MHaes Wrote:  

Quote: (12-11-2013 11:02 AM)MikeCF Wrote:  

My favorite meal is oatmeal made with pure pumpkin (adding pumpkin pie spices but not sugar) and mixed with whey and/or casein protein powder.

Off topic, but can I get the recipe for that? Sounds amazing.

Here ya go:

http://fit-juice.com/pumpkin-pie-protein...al-recipe/

Quote: (12-12-2013 01:27 PM)Suits Wrote:  

Quote: (12-12-2013 05:18 AM)johnwu Wrote:  

because bacon

Oh, fuck you!

Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you for posting that!

Now all I can think about are delicious bacon roses.

I will have dreams about this.

Damn YOU!

Veganism: First-world problems. Guys, be happy, and eat a nice asadito:

Eating meat increases body fat, and extra body fat is correlated with increased estrogen levels.

Just food for thought.

btw those bacon roses look like a wonderful gift, for a "BBW".

Quote: (12-18-2013 01:16 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

Eating meat increases body fat, and extra body fat is correlated with increased estrogen levels.

Just food for thought.

Only if eaten in a big mac with loads of carbs and a side portion of no exercise.

Plenty of guys eating lots of meat and some veg (but no grains, ketogenic diet) have gotten shredded in months.

Quote: (12-18-2013 01:16 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

Eating meat increases body fat, and extra body fat is correlated with increased estrogen levels.

Just food for thought.

That entire statement is laughable on so many levels. Not surprising coming from a vegan though.

Like I said earlier in the thread (but you ignored my point), read up on some Gary Taubes to see how incredibly wrong you are.

http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-...1400033462

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Eating meat increases body fat

DTF now you're just so don't expect anyone to take your posts seriously, I know i won't.

Quote: (12-18-2013 04:59 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

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Eating meat increases body fat

DTF now you're just so don't expect anyone to take your posts seriously, I know i won't.

Take my posts as you wish

http://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/...esity.html

Professor Wang Meat? The title of the thread in a tab is called Wang Meat Consumption.

Quote: (12-18-2013 05:37 PM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

Take my posts as you wish

http://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/...esity.html

"Diets High in Meat Consumption Associated with Obesity"

Do you know what an associational study is?

That means every fat fuck who eats a burger with fries is tossed into the same group as guys who eat grass fed beef and broccoli.

I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're just such a zealot that your brain is frozen.

Quote: (12-18-2013 05:52 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (12-18-2013 05:37 PM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

Take my posts as you wish

http://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-releases/...esity.html

"Diets High in Meat Consumption Associated with Obesity"

Do you know what an associational study is?

That means every fat fuck who eats a burger with fries is tossed into the same group as guys who eat grass fed beef and broccoli.

I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're just such a zealot that your brain is frozen.

How often do you eat grass fed beef?

Most people can't afford it, and are stuck with domesticated animal meat.

Quote: (12-18-2013 04:25 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

Quote: (12-18-2013 01:16 AM)deathtofatties Wrote:  

Eating meat increases body fat, and extra body fat is correlated with increased estrogen levels.

Just food for thought.

That entire statement is laughable on so many levels. Not surprising coming from a vegan though.

Like I said earlier in the thread (but you ignored my point), read up on some Gary Taubes to see how incredibly wrong you are.

http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-...1400033462

I checked out the link.

At first I thought it was some sort of bro-science article, but upon further investigation some of Gary Taubes' points are very good (though not scientifically established). I found a youtube video of him giving a lecture on obesity, and how it's the result of malnutrition/undernourishment rather than excess calorie consumption, especially in poor third world countries.

But I doubt he consumes much meat. I haven't (yet) found any pages where he advocates eating meat.