Here's the scenario - girls comes up to my place. We make out - she seems really excited. Some clothes come off. It's about an hour after she came in now. Before getting to my place we'd often drink somewhere else.

More often than not I now need to go to the bathroom. I usually tell her to keep that thought and not move an inch. I come back in within a minute or two.

3 different girls lately have used the break to get dressed again and get out of my place minutes later. Minutes before I went to the bathroom they seemed DTF by all means.

Anything you do to avoid that situation? Not going for the bathroom may help but hey it's hard to stop drinking 2 hours before you have sex on a date. Any good psychological ways to keep her mind off her phone and rational thoughts?

Take her clothes with you

this sounds like a big flaw in your game...
if women are making up their minds to out on clothes and talk out on you while you're in the bathroom, they were never into you to begin with.

reflect on your game build up.You need to build way more attraction

I should have added - almost all girls are good go on the next date. But why wait one date more?

If you have to get up, just give her a task to do that will occupy her mind, build tension, and establish dominance. Just abruptly get up - she'll wonder why. Say "I've gotta pee." There are a couple of things you could do:

1) If she's still dressed, I'll say over my shoulder as I leave the room: "..and make sure you're out of that dress when I get back." Said with authority and deadly serious. When you get back she should be stripped down. Tell her "good girl," give her some reward, etc.

2) If she's already naked I give her a book of matches and have her light one of the candles on my nightstand.

Whatever it is, just give her something to do while you're away that keeps her in the moment, builds the tension/anticipation and allows her to be submissive.

EDIT: And of course try and time it so that you take a piss before all of the clothes come off.

Take her clothes with you

Quote: (12-10-2013 10:26 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

Take her clothes with you

Realistically speaking this would be very awkward unless you've already banged the girl before.

Get her inside your car
Go outside and pee
Then start driving

Piss on the girl!

It sounds like you're building heat when you're making out... and then when you go to pee YOU change state and go from being into a girl and in the moment to left brain "I gotta go do this thing."

She feels it and her state changes too.

Don't break state. Don't worry about her leaving.

A good way to keep her in state is to make your absence part of the process. Give her a task. Anchor the feeling. What Princeton said, but keep the feeling.

"Hey babe, I've gotta run and grab something for a minute. When I come back, I wanna see you bent over with those panties off. Be a good girl, or they'll be spankings."

Now you leaving the room builds tension. What's he getting? What's he going to come back and do? Even if you don't bring anything, (though, this would be a fun time to break out a toy) she'll be wet when you come back.

You're getting into foreplay, then stopping halfway in and giving her time to rationalize reasons not to have sex.

Hold back on the escalation - make out but don't cross the foreplay line until you're ready to pull the trigger.

As an alternative, if she comes over to yours, you can use a trip to the bathroom in the face of anti-sloot LMR. Is she getting excited when you're making moves but won't let you go further (remove extra layers, etc)? If you give her a minute while you step out and she doesn't fix herself up in the meantime (bra still unhooked, pants unbuttoned, hair in a mess, etc) then continue where you left off - she wants the D, just take one step back and two steps forward towards the notch. If she layers back up, the lay probably won't happen that night.

Runsonmagic is spot on. You stepping out of the room should be like hitting the pause button, not a complete change of soundtrack. Step back into the room with a "where were we?" attitude.

Go to the bathroom before she comes over?

Go to the bathroom before starting to make out.

Wear a catheter.

Just piss in a corner before your leave

Have her give you road head

Quote: (12-10-2013 09:29 AM)Mumbojumbo Wrote:  

Here's the scenario - girls comes up to my place. We make out - she seems really excited. Some clothes come off. It's about an hour after she came in now.

There's your problem. Unless she was in your place for the date itself (you cooked for her or something), getting her back to your place and 60 minutes later she still isn't naked is waaaayy too long. You have her in isolation. She is DTF. She wouldn't have come back to your place alone otherwise. "The customer don't walk on the lot lest he wants to buy". You gotta close.

Get her back to your place, shoes off at the door, put some mood appropriate music on while you fix some drinks for you both. Tell her she can use the bathroom while you do so. Once she returns set your drinks down. Go take a piss yourself. By now she's sitting on the couch relaxed, knows you're not a serial killer and she has pretty much decided to fuck you. It's yours to mess up now. Couple of sips of your drinks and chat for a few mins to get her comfortable and then escalate. Make her say no (although she won't unless you fuck it up. Again, she's in your place alone with you. She's already made her mind up). 60 minutes is way too long and every passing minute she begins to doubt you.

The longer you leave it the more awkward it gets because she knows that you both want sex but she needs you to make the push for it. So do it. Be decisive.

Quote: (12-10-2013 02:27 PM)Ternarydemonite Wrote:  

Go to the bathroom before starting to make out.

^^^ This.

Whenever I bring a chick over, first thing I do is ask her if she needs to use the bathroom. And then I use the bathroom. That way once things start getting hot and heavy, neither of our bladders will cockblock.

Take her with?

I'm rarely in this type of situation (I always aware of my drinking and how frequently I'll need to piss... I keep track of this because I've thought of this shit you've posted about happening)...but it has happened a few times where I've been drinking and have to piss.

I simply had it in (if action is already started). because I know once I penetrate. it's like a valve that switches off and over to the cum valve...

so next time, hold it and proceed.. well, it worked for me anyway

"You ever took a golden shower?"

Quote: (12-10-2013 03:15 PM)assman Wrote:  

Quote: (12-10-2013 02:27 PM)Ternarydemonite Wrote:  

Go to the bathroom before starting to make out.

^^^ This.

Whenever I bring a chick over, first thing I do is ask her if she needs to use the bathroom. And then I use the bathroom. That way once things start getting hot and heavy, neither of our bladders will cockblock.

I lost out on one trying it that way (later banged her, another story.)

Tried to get her back to my place, wanted to go back to her hotel. Ride all the way to her hotel. I had to piss bad because I thought I could have done it like 20 minutes ago and skipped out on the option before that. Get to her hotel and realize she has room mates. She gets in bed, I go to take a massive piss, come back and a minute later someones knocking at the door. Damn it.

Plenty of ideas in this thread.

Logistically, its better just to keep the liquid volume at a minimum. Don't pound back beer all night. Think of a bathroom break as a restart in the points you've been building up with your game, or a possible game over. Hard liquor will do just fine.

Quote: (12-10-2013 01:31 PM)polar Wrote:  

You're getting into foreplay, then stopping halfway in and giving her time to rationalize reasons not to have sex.

Hold back on the escalation - make out but don't cross the foreplay line until you're ready to pull the trigger.

As an alternative, if she comes over to yours, you can use a trip to the bathroom in the face of anti-sloot LMR. Is she getting excited when you're making moves but won't let you go further (remove extra layers, etc)? If you give her a minute while you step out and she doesn't fix herself up in the meantime (bra still unhooked, pants unbuttoned, hair in a mess, etc) then continue where you left off - she wants the D, just take one step back and two steps forward towards the notch. If she layers back up, the lay probably won't happen that night.

Runsonmagic is spot on. You stepping out of the room should be like hitting the pause button, not a complete change of soundtrack. Step back into the room with a "where were we?" attitude.

The trouble usually was that she used that one minute to put her clothes back on and basically stand in the door - ready to go. 3 different girls did that in a very similar fashion. Must be in some LMR/ASD guide all the girls read

Great input guys

From what I gather my take is:

- drink less
- put the music on, get her a drink
- go piss before making out (or just before coming over)
- escalate quick enough (30 mins) so that I can get the bang before I need to take a piss again

Quote: (12-10-2013 09:53 AM)Mumbojumbo Wrote:  

I should have added - almost all girls are good go on the next date. But why wait one date more?

You have a lot left to learn about the female psyche my friend.

Fucking on the first date is frowned down upon females. It makes them feel like sluts. They start taking their clothes off because they are in the moment and responding to sexual emotional connection you have built. When you leave her logical mind kicks in and she realizes she needs to calm the situation down for any number of different reasons.

Do some searches on last minute resistance and anti-slut defense, you eyes will open.

Your doing good though, keep it up player.

Quote: (12-12-2013 09:26 AM)Mumbojumbo Wrote:  

Great input guys

From what I gather my take is:

- drink less
- put the music on, get her a drink
- go piss before making out (or just before coming over)
- escalate quick enough (30 mins) so that I can get the bang before I need to take a piss again

You missed a key point - don't leave her alone to think it over, distract the hamster by telling her what to do some while you step out. "Fix us another drink", "Put some good music on".

But the others are correct, go for a piss during the comfort stage, not after successfully escalating her out of her clothes.