Quote: (05-09-2011 07:24 PM)CJ Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 03:19 PM)LÉtranger Wrote:  

I didnt even see the flipflops.By EE standards, all the girls of the front row except one are obese.

Heh, of the girls in the front row, I'd bang the one in the brown shirt on the far left, but the rest would require some alcohol...

And yet, there is a strong possibility none of them would bang you under any circumstances.

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:18 PM)Jack Frost Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:14 PM)North Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 12:30 AM)hoops330 Wrote:  

maybe what im ultimately trying to figure out is how can we hold these american slobs to a higher standard? not everyone has the opportunity to skip the country and experience true feminism, so what can we do to better our situation here?

Maybe get in your Wayback machine and take a trip to 1950.

Be a man and voice your displeasure if a chick does that shit. Like I said in my earlier post Ive had no problems with some of the things youre talking about outside of the flip flops which I dont mind. A strong man always beats a strong woman and if you are stronger than she is and she views you as valuable she will conform to what you want in order to keep you.

Honestly, I think Islam has a place for a strong man like you. They are dying for your type.

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:21 PM)North Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:18 PM)Jack Frost Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:14 PM)North Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 12:30 AM)hoops330 Wrote:  

maybe what im ultimately trying to figure out is how can we hold these american slobs to a higher standard? not everyone has the opportunity to skip the country and experience true feminism, so what can we do to better our situation here?

Maybe get in your Wayback machine and take a trip to 1950.

Be a man and voice your displeasure if a chick does that shit. Like I said in my earlier post Ive had no problems with some of the things youre talking about outside of the flip flops which I dont mind. A strong man always beats a strong woman and if you are stronger than she is and she views you as valuable she will conform to what you want in order to keep you. We talk about needing to go to the wayback machine to 1950 to see true feminism but lets be honest men acted alot differently back then as well. Guys acting like pussies instead of acting like men is whats allowed women to act in that way. Return to how men used to be and the women you ultimately surround yourself will act in a more feminine manner.

Honestly, I think Islam has a place for a strong man like you. They are dying for your type.

I dont think Islam is looking for a philandering atheist. If your reply is in reference to my line about "a strong man beats a strong woman" I dont mean physically you troll I meant it in the sense of a strong man trumps a strong woman. Sorry I had to hold your hand and walk you through it. Also if youre going to come and pass judgement on everyone here like I saw in one of your other posts attacking the Islamic faith is a rather hypocritical way of doing it. Glad you champion feminism but not religious tolerance.

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:41 PM)Jack Frost Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:21 PM)North Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:18 PM)Jack Frost Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:14 PM)North Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 12:30 AM)hoops330 Wrote:  

maybe what im ultimately trying to figure out is how can we hold these american slobs to a higher standard? not everyone has the opportunity to skip the country and experience true feminism, so what can we do to better our situation here?

Maybe get in your Wayback machine and take a trip to 1950.

Be a man and voice your displeasure if a chick does that shit. Like I said in my earlier post Ive had no problems with some of the things youre talking about outside of the flip flops which I dont mind. A strong man always beats a strong woman and if you are stronger than she is and she views you as valuable she will conform to what you want in order to keep you. We talk about needing to go to the wayback machine to 1950 to see true feminism but lets be honest men acted alot differently back then as well. Guys acting like pussies instead of acting like men is whats allowed women to act in that way. Return to how men used to be and the women you ultimately surround yourself will act in a more feminine manner.

Honestly, I think Islam has a place for a strong man like you. They are dying for your type.

I dont think Islam is looking for a philandering atheist. If your reply is in reference to my line about "a strong man beats a strong woman" I dont mean physically you troll I meant it in the sense of a strong man trumps a strong woman. Sorry I had to hold your hand and walk you through it. Also if youre going to come and pass judgement on everyone here like I saw in one of your other posts attacking the Islamic faith is a rather hypocritical way of doing it. Glad you champion feminism but not religious tolerance.

Wow. So you don't get the gist of my post.

Maybe if you didn't hate women so much, you could find someone who wanted to sleep with you.

And I don't care whether you are talking about physicality or not. Why does a strong man "trump" a strong woman? Because women are just no damn good?

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:47 PM)North Wrote:  

Why does a strong man "trump" a strong woman? Because women are just no damn good?

Because women tend to follow strong men. Strong women do the same thing, though they will ONLY follow the strongest men. When they find such a man and "fall in love", they tend to behave in a more submissive manner, even if their ordinary behavior wouldn't come close to such a dynamic.

This is also the reason for that whole "nice guys finish last" phenomenon. They can't lead, and women only respect men they can deem worthy enough to follow.

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:52 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:47 PM)North Wrote:  

Why does a strong man "trump" a strong woman? Because women are just no damn good?

Because women tend to follow strong men. Strong women do the same thing, though they will ONLY follow the strongest men. When they find such a man and "fall in love", they tend to behave in a more submissive manner, even if their ordinary behavior wouldn't come close to such a dynamic.

This is also the reason for that whole "nice guys finish last" phenomenon. They can't lead, and women only respect men they can deem worthy enough to follow.

Wow. Really?

Actually, I beg to differ. But go ahead and keep believing that.

No wonder you guys are so full of hatred for women. You do not get them at all.

Or you only attract the kind of women for whom you have disdain.

Quote: (05-09-2011 09:02 PM)North Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:52 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:47 PM)North Wrote:  

Why does a strong man "trump" a strong woman? Because women are just no damn good?

Because women tend to follow strong men. Strong women do the same thing, though they will ONLY follow the strongest men. When they find such a man and "fall in love", they tend to behave in a more submissive manner, even if their ordinary behavior wouldn't come close to such a dynamic.

This is also the reason for that whole "nice guys finish last" phenomenon. They can't lead, and women only respect men they can deem worthy enough to follow.

Wow. Really?

Actually, I beg to differ. But go ahead and keep believing that.

No wonder you guys are so full of hatred for women. You do not get them at all.

Or you only attract the kind of women for whom you have disdain.

You had a good run. Take the logical fallacies somewhere else now.

Quote: (05-09-2011 12:25 AM)hoops330 Wrote:  

Roosh has written on these issues a countless number of times; the veterans on here have touched on these issues as well. I was spending some time talking with a beautiful brazilian girl who is studying at my school and we discussed her impressions of American girls. She said she was disgusted by the actions of girls that were around their boyfriends. Farting, burping, eating like slobs, and comments like "I have to take a huge shit." I've only been exposed to these American mannerisms and I cannot wait to see if the grass really is greener on the other side as Roosh and many of you have said (heading to Brazil in 10 weeks). American girls obviously aren't as feminine as their SA/European counterparts, but what or who is to blame? Society? Maybe we men are to blame?

American "Feminism" got it woefully wrong. Somehow the quest for "gender equality" turned into a quest for "gender parity" with women attempting to morph into quasi-masculine beasts. They thought men had it better but instead of trying to achieve more societal power through their feminine energy, they decided to co-opt male attitudes and behaviors. Now we have a bunch of yeti-women who throw elbows, eat burgers with onions at hockey games, who are loud, obnoxious and overly-aggressive and who lounge around in sweatpants and, yes, wear flip flops.

I've even heard young American women tell EACH OTHER to "Man Up" or "Grow a pair"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even in some Western European countries, women have been able to achieve a degree of societal power/influence while retaining their femininity. Look at female French fashion designers or CEOs of major cosmetics companies. You can still thell that they have a vagina. Show me one influential American CEO or politician who doesn't have short hair, wear manish suits or fire shotguns at moose from helicopters.

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:19 PM)North Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 07:24 PM)CJ Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 03:19 PM)LÉtranger Wrote:  

I didnt even see the flipflops.By EE standards, all the girls of the front row except one are obese.

Heh, of the girls in the front row, I'd bang the one in the brown shirt on the far left, but the rest would require some alcohol...

And yet, there is a strong possibility none of them would bang you under any circumstances.

Uh oh this thread hit too close to home for one particular female.

Quote: (05-09-2011 09:17 PM)Princeton Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 12:25 AM)hoops330 Wrote:  

Roosh has written on these issues a countless number of times; the veterans on here have touched on these issues as well. I was spending some time talking with a beautiful brazilian girl who is studying at my school and we discussed her impressions of American girls. She said she was disgusted by the actions of girls that were around their boyfriends. Farting, burping, eating like slobs, and comments like "I have to take a huge shit." I've only been exposed to these American mannerisms and I cannot wait to see if the grass really is greener on the other side as Roosh and many of you have said (heading to Brazil in 10 weeks). American girls obviously aren't as feminine as their SA/European counterparts, but what or who is to blame? Society? Maybe we men are to blame?

American "Feminism" got it woefully wrong. Somehow the quest for "gender equality" turned into a quest for "gender parity" with women attempting to morph into quasi-masculine beasts. They thought men had it better but instead of trying to achieve more societal power through their feminine energy, they decided to co-opt male attitudes and behaviors. Now we have a bunch of yeti-women who throw elbows, eat burgers with onions at hockey games, who are loud, obnoxious and overly-aggressive and who lounge around in sweatpants and, yes, wear flip flops.

I've even heard young American women tell EACH OTHER to "Man Up" or "Grow a pair"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even in some Western European countries, women have been able to achieve a degree of societal power/influence while retaining their femininity. Look at female French fashion designers or CEOs of major cosmetics companies. You can still thell that they have a vagina. Show me one influential American CEO or politician who doesn't have short hair, wear manish suits or fire shotguns at moose from helicopters.

OMG. Stop crying. Or, should I say, Man UP!

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-3383.html

There's a reason for Rule 8. Fellas, please be mature and ignore this one for now.

What would you guys do if your daughter came out and said she was interested in joining the Women's Lacrosse team?

I don't have any sisters so I don't know how parents deal with their daughters, but wtf. It's also confusing for me because I don't hang out with any girls like those in the pics, so I just don't know how their minds work. It's almost like they grew up without a feminine role model. How does a mother let her daughter go to an event where her daughter is meeting a President dressed like that? Some people...

Quote: (05-09-2011 11:14 PM)kerouac Wrote:  

What would you guys do if your daughter came out and said she was interested in joining the Women's Lacrosse team?

I don't have any sisters so I don't know how parents deal with their daughters, but wtf. It's also confusing for me because I don't hang out with any girls like those in the pics, so I just don't know how their minds work. It's almost like they grew up without a feminine role model. How does a mother let her daughter go to an event where her daughter is meeting a President dressed like that? Some people...

What would you guys do if your daughter came out and said she was dating a guy who posted this kind of stuff on forums.

And since we're criticizing people in the picture, do any of you notice how dorky Bush looks? LOL. Maybe he simply didn't demand respect in any way.

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:15 PM)Jack Frost Wrote:  

Its a womens lacrosse team not exactly prime pickings.

To me looks-wise, dress-wise and color-blind-wise they look as a generic set of average American females. Which is exactly what I describe as my problem - while some of them are fuckable, I cannot put myself into approaching one of these. My brain tells me - dude, it is not a woman, no approach. And this is something American guys could be blamed upon

And yes, even the women in the lacrosse team should know about the style, or at least be able to match colors. It is not that fuckin difficult. Even if we assume they didn't know they gonna have a group picture.

An interesting theory I have is that the men should share the blame about women dressed up like shit as well. The reason? Every time I see a chick here who is with a black dude she is always dressed up very well. It is chicks with white dudes who are typically dressed up in flip-flops and baggy t-shirts. So if you allow a girl to be on a date with you dressed up like that without any comment from your side, you're part of this problem as well.

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:18 PM)Jack Frost Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 08:14 PM)North Wrote:  

Quote: (05-09-2011 12:30 AM)hoops330 Wrote:  

maybe what im ultimately trying to figure out is how can we hold these american slobs to a higher standard? not everyone has the opportunity to skip the country and experience true feminism, so what can we do to better our situation here?

Maybe get in your Wayback machine and take a trip to 1950.

Be a man and voice your displeasure if a chick does that shit. Like I said in my earlier post Ive had no problems with some of the things youre talking about outside of the flip flops which I dont mind. A strong man always beats a strong woman and if you are stronger than she is and she views you as valuable she will conform to what you want in order to keep you. We talk about needing to go to the wayback machine to 1950 to see true feminism but lets be honest men acted alot differently back then as well. Guys acting like pussies instead of acting like men is whats allowed women to act in that way. Return to how men used to be and the women you ultimately surround yourself will act in a more feminine manner.

Thats exactly what Ive been saying.

the main question with this picture......how can girls at their prime of youth and supposedly athletic be so unattractive.....that is the essence of women in american culture

Wearing flip flops to get your picture taken with a PRESIDENT, I don't care who it is, is so egregious that it can only be deemed a socioeconomic cultural blind spot in the upbringing of these girls. Most of them are probably country women who never, ever, had to dress up for anything in their lives. Flip flops with a sun dress IS dressing up to them. Blame their parents more than anyone. But their parents were likely country too, so you cant really blame anyone.

As long as she doesn't look like a pig, I don't really care what a girl wears when she is casual around the house or taking a walk to the store in whatever small town these girls probably live. For all the anti-feminist stuff I believe in, I don't think that women need to be uncomfortable when its time to be casual. But for the love of pete, its a picture with a president.

What I do care about is manners, demeanor and hygiene. Act like a lady, and you get some leeway with the look when its time to be casual. Break it down and get comfortable. Act like a pig, and get treated like a pig. Man, I really cant help but to treat pigs like pigs. And then they get upset about it...lol

And kickboxer mentioned that some girls, that he knows, dip/chew?! I've never, ever seen that in my life. That would be worse than farting in front of me. For sure, that's female devolution at its worst...

Quote: (05-10-2011 07:11 PM)coronel nacimento Wrote:  

the main question with this picture......how can girls at their prime of youth and supposedly athletic be so unattractive.....that is the essence of women in american culture

Athletic almost never means attractive in women. Working out just isnt meant for women, and most girls who pursue sports usually do so because "prettier" past times wont allow their mannish looks.

Hey guys... do me a favor... when I'm sleeping... and some trolls overruns the forum.....

DON'T FEED IT!

Cause when you feed it... it keeps posting... and then I wake up... and see "25 reported posts"

Quote: (05-10-2011 07:29 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

Athletic almost never means attractive in women. Working out just isnt meant for women, and most girls who pursue sports usually do so because "prettier" past times wont allow their mannish looks.

I disagree. Although there is certainly a fair share of nasty, butch-ish, ugly female athletes, I find that girls that participate in sports are hotter in higher proportions than the public at-large.

The pictures below don't even take into account the countless Eastern European tennis players, international volleyball players, and random ice skaters.

*Note: the top one is an MMA fighter, of all things.

   
   
   

I seriously could go on and on with pictures. I think the problem is that not enough women (especially in the United States) play sports, hence the obesity epidemic and concomitant sausage fest around the remaining skinny girls. You can be feminine and exercise. They're not mutually exclusive.

Those lacrosse players' problem isn't that they play lacrosse, it's that they don't know how to dress and act like girls.

I dont want to start a debate about what is and isn't a sport, but one could argue that tennis, volleyball and ice skating are very woman tailored sports and therefore are a little more apt to having more feminine participants. I do see where you're coming from, but the ratio of attractive girls in sports to unattractive girls in sports is still very one sided. You have to remember too that attractive women get more press coverage then the unattractive ones even if they aren't the best.

You say "female pole vaulter" and Allison Stokke is what everyone knows, but how many other women are on the team?

I remember there being a point where Anna Kournikova wasn't doing shit as far as playing tennis went but she posed for a magazine and the whole jist of the article was about her being a hot tennis player

Quote: (05-10-2011 07:50 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

I dont want to start a debate about what is and isn't a sport, but one could argue that tennis, volleyball and ice skating are very woman tailored sports and therefore are a little more apt to having more feminine participants.

That's why I didn't include any examples from the more "feminine sports": precisely so no one could say, "oh, except those sports. They always have hot girls in them." But the truth is, they are technically sports and those girls are athletic.

As such, they should be included in the overall calculation, not selectively edited out because they don't support your "most female athletes are ugly butches" theory.

Quote: (05-10-2011 07:50 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

I remember there being a point where Anna Kournikova wasn't doing shit as far as playing tennis went but she posed for a magazine and the whole jist of the article was about her being a hot tennis player

I agree that hot females (whether they're athletes or not) get more press coverage. There are millions of famous examples of this. I mean Sarah Palin, who's considered "hot" for a female politician, has milked that shit for like two years' worth of media exposure.

But, if you watch female college sports on TV, you'll see that the proportion of hot girls is way higher than your average pool of random chicks--even though their camps also include nasty, mannish members. Sure, it varies from sport to sport. The softball team is going to have manlier and uglier members overall, than, say, the women's cross-country team. But, in aggregate, I think my theory bears out.

I've had tons of experience in this area, but probably the best anecdotal evidence I can present is when I used to work out at the student gym at a PAC-10 college. The girls' teams, of various sports, would often walk through there on their way to their practices or to hit the showers. As much as half of the team was smoking hot, several others were pretty damn cute. I also had a friend who used to go there and would get free tickets to sporting events that weren't sold out. We'd hit up the women's sports when we had nothing else to do and, again, the same thing: higher proportions of hot girls.

The natural question is: how many of these girls were then feminine, apart from just being "hot"? Some walked out of those places in a well-coordinated, feminine outfits that they filled out nicely, with their blow-dried hair flowing down their backs or braided intricately, Eastern-European style. Others strutted out in a big team t-shirt, mesh shorts, and flip-flops, with their hair in a wet pony tail.

Again, the problem wasn't their level of fitness, it was their understanding of femininity, the way they carried themselves, and their fashion sensibility off the field.

i promise you....you take a picture of any women's sports team in any other country or situation..it wouldnt come close to that one--maybe a women's english team would come close. just with that one pic alone......we know why there is a travel forum and why men who know about these thing have complained or have nothing good to say about american women in general.

women who lift can have much more attractive bodies because of it, and lifting is an athletic activity

**sigh** What is it about flip-flops that disgusts you guys? I'm seeing this issue come up for a lot of guys on the forum.