Quote: (08-15-2013 10:35 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

I think this narrative that all chicks are cheating whores is helpful for writers and those selling products. I don't believe it to be true.

I asked (emailed) two attractive women that I used to know a while ago. They cheat alright. At the least think about it. As singles they have multiple guys. Ok that's a super small sample-size, and I wouldn't call them whores heh. Whores have sex for money. But they aren't saints either.

And again, I would not say the same for the girl I'm meeting now. But maybe I'm deluding myself.

Re: chest beating

Yeah probably, you're right. I'll give that a rest.


I just don't understand why dudes are getting cheated on all the time. I would like to be more helpful than boastful.

Quote: (08-15-2013 10:35 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

My statistical sample size is also large enough that if some one did cheat on me I would have likely caught it or they would have confessed or whatever.

You're assuming there would be patterns that would raise the probability that someone would be caught while in reality one of your "girls" (a term you have yet to define) could go out one night find a random dude, get boned by him in his cars and then never see or talk to him again.

Every person would follow a behaviour so unbound by deterministic rules that when reduced to individual stochastic processes the collective system would need a sample size of tremendous size to reliably (>50% of the time) make predictions.

Or in non-engineering (nerd) speak: You made that up.

I'm not trying to be an ass here but you're really swinging your balls around so expect some scepticism.

Missed the other posts while I was writing my previous, so the above is kinda moot.

You know what, fuck it.
MikeCF vouches for you and when it comes to ground game, real-life results, and not fancy internet theory what he says should be good for just about anyone on the board.
So, whatever it's you're doing man you're doing something right and instead of this talk we should just make sure you get out whatever it is what you're doing out to the board.

I'll be the first to go back and read your old posts on the forum.

if a girl has her iphone and ipad synched, she probably doesn't realize the two are synched and you can see all of her texts on her ipad. One of my last girls, who literally just texted me to hookup, let me use her ipad and I saw all of her texting history, and there were recent flirty text threads with other guys. She wants to be my girlfriend, etc etc, and says she is exclusive to me(even though I am not), and I dont trust her at all. A good lay to have around, nothing more.

The only reason that guys get all hung up on girls sleeping with more than just you IMO is this, and this is coming from self-reflection:

It's so easy for a girl to get laid, yet it's so hard for a guy to. This makes us resentful that a girl can go out and get laid any night of the week, whereas even the best players have a 5% success rate from meeting a girl to bedding (based on gmanifesto's thread IIRC).

Thus it's guys coming from an inherent scarcity zone while girls have abundance naturally. I know this is what gets me about girls having multiple partners and me potentially losing a piece I'm fucking: I put in a shitload of work to get the lay while her, she doesn't do shit. It's something I'm working on (completely eliminate scarcity mindset), but IMO this is the natural basis for guys getting hung up on girls fucking around, cause come on, we know that girls love sex even more than guys do.

I think it's more about the deception.

Quote: (08-15-2013 11:29 AM)puckman Wrote:  

if a girl has her iphone and ipad synched, she probably doesn't realize the two are synched and you can see all of her texts on her ipad. One of my last girls, who literally just texted me to hookup, let me use her ipad and I saw all of her texting history, and there were recent flirty text threads with other guys. She wants to be my girlfriend, etc etc, and says she is exclusive to me(even though I am not), and I dont trust her at all. A good lay to have around, nothing more.

The funniest part of this whole thread is the concept that women believe they can actually hide something from an intermediate-to-novice level tech savvy guy and really get away with it while lying to their face.

Ladies, I hate to break the news to you, but the majority of computer science majors are men. They built and programmed the devices you use. If we want, we will find whatever it takes to reveal the truth with efficiencies you never even knew existed.

Emotional dependency on a device built on logic-based platforms,.. the more logical thinker will always win.

It's just disappointing to see that in spite of this being probably the most game savvy place on the internet, girls are still lying to dudes left and right without giving a shit. There's no honor or fuckin' morality.

Quote: (08-15-2013 11:57 AM)iamdegaussed Wrote:  

It's just disappointing to see that in spite of this being probably the most game savvy place on the internet, girls are still lying to dudes left and right without giving a shit. There's no honor or fuckin' morality.

Well, that's the point. Women treat honor and morality on a whole very different from men. Men live in these structure and rule based worlds, women's viewpoint and the way they survive is much different.

I'm not saying there aren't trustworthy women out there, I'm just saying that naturally they are VERY different from men.

Quote: (08-15-2013 10:48 AM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Re: chest beating

Yeah probably, you're right. I'll give that a rest.


I just don't understand why dudes are getting cheated on all the time. I would like to be more helpful than boastful.

reaper, I have believed everything you have said even before Mike vouched for you.

I find your stories, and anecdotes about life extraordinarily insightful.

Please do not stop sharing your experiences about life because I learn from them. When I read your experiences, I glean the mindset and approach to life that it takes to succeed.

I don't know if this makes you feel any better because I am just a kid, but know that you are helping at least one person on this board.

Quote: (08-15-2013 11:51 AM)Kieran Wrote:  

I think it's more about the deception.

But are you honest with a chick about how many girls are you seeing?

I found that if it's pre-DTR (define the relationship), chicks are cool if you say you're casually seeing others. If you've never DTRd then I think it kinda goes without saying that you can casually see others and girls can too.

What are your thoughts?

Quote: (08-15-2013 11:53 AM)Ingocnito Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2013 11:29 AM)puckman Wrote:  

if a girl has her iphone and ipad synched, she probably doesn't realize the two are synched and you can see all of her texts on her ipad. One of my last girls, who literally just texted me to hookup, let me use her ipad and I saw all of her texting history, and there were recent flirty text threads with other guys. She wants to be my girlfriend, etc etc, and says she is exclusive to me(even though I am not), and I dont trust her at all. A good lay to have around, nothing more.

The funniest part of this whole thread is the concept that women believe they can actually hide something from an intermediate-to-novice level tech savvy guy and really get away with it while lying to their face.

Ladies, I hate to break the news to you, but the majority of computer science majors are men. They built and programmed the devices you use. If we want, we will find whatever it takes to reveal the truth with efficiencies you never even knew existed.

Emotional dependency on a device built on logic-based platforms,.. the more logical thinker will always win.

that Apple ID is a real bitch

I'm still waiting on some good stories.

POF date:

She sets her iphone down by her purse on the opposite side of her purse to goto the bathroom.

I hear the sound, and look over thinking its probably some guy. Most people have it set up so their text shows up on the lock screen.

The text says : jerking it to your pics right now

Women who are dating online use it to build up an infinite buffer of options in my opinion.

@ Pyre, I don't really have a horse in the race these days because I don't really care what a girl does. I just find the degree to which girls will misrepresent themselves amazing.

Several years ago, I invested both my time and emotions into a girl that appeared to be everything I would look for in a woman (she was extremely cute, and seemed to be chaste, innocent and loyal). Several months in, she stayed at mine one weekend, and over the course of the weekend pressured me to agree to an exclusive relationship, which I did (I played it cool, but inside I jumped at the offer).

She left her facebook open after leaving my place, and I was able to watch a chat unfold in real time as she sat in the taxi back to hers. She was talking with a young footballer from the reserves of a high profile team in another city. She agreed to meet him when he was going to be in our city in a few weeks time, and even asked him if he was staying in a hotel.

I looked around her facebook and there were more conversations with several other men in the early stages, in which she told them she was single and not seeing anyone, and in some, even used the same in jokes that I had developed between us etc (game 101).

This all felt like a kick in the stomach, and I remember that I lost my appetite and couldn't sit still for days. It wasn't her actions in and of themselves though (I wouldn't have cared had she been honest; I was a big boy and I knew that girls are having sex out there etc), but that she had deceived me into falling in love with her.

Quote: (08-15-2013 11:13 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

So, whatever it's you're doing man you're doing something right and instead of this talk we should just make sure you get out whatever it is what you're doing out to the board.

"Dom game" is really hard to write about, man. I've tried to do it and haven't been able to pull it off.

If there is a guy out there writing about this stuff, I'd love to read it.

But think about this. How many women want to be choked, spanked, totally owned?

Women want to be owned by one man.

Cheating comes about when a man hasn't properly asserted ownership.

Hey, try this.

Next time take out a magic marker and write, "Daddy's girl" on a girl's tit and "my slut" on her ass.

If she has black marker that doesn't just wash off, who is she fucking the next day?

I think that a lot of guys aren't really pushing the envelope of what is possible.

Quote: (08-15-2013 01:42 PM)la_mode Wrote:  

POF date:

She sets her iphone down by her purse on the opposite side of her purse to goto the bathroom.

I hear the sound, and look over thinking its probably some guy. Most people have it set up so their text shows up on the lock screen.

The text says : jerking it to your pics right now

Women who are dating online use it to build up an infinite buffer of options in my opinion.

On my recent pof date after I nailed her I teased her that she probably has 150 new messages on POF and she should check them. She opened her phone and in fact had 87 new messages then she showed me them and we were both tooling the dudes who messaged them. 90% of them were horrendous.

Gotta admit though that the few THAT were good, I felt a little envious wondering if she was gonna meet him up and bang him (even though the same could be said for me that I'm pipelining other girls concurrently). So I'm not completely over that hump yet.

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:02 PM)Kieran Wrote:  

Several years ago, I invested both my time and emotions into a girl that appeared to be everything I would look for in a woman (she was extremely cute, and seemed to be chaste, innocent and loyal). Several months in, she stayed at mine one weekend, and over the course of the weekend pressured me to agree to an exclusive relationship, which I did (I played it cool, but inside I jumped at the offer).

yeah, that's cold to do right after pressuring you into an exclusive.

What did you end up doing? Break up with her? Call her out? Keep her as a side piece but say you were exclusive?

Vanilla sex with a guy is fungible. To a girl, "a cock is a cock," for the most part.

Once you start taking girls to her most primal self, other guys are going to bore her:

The 50 Shades of Grey series has sold over 70 million copies.

If you are not already tying girls up, choking them, leaving bruises on them from biting them...then you are late to the party.

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:06 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2013 11:13 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

So, whatever it's you're doing man you're doing something right and instead of this talk we should just make sure you get out whatever it is what you're doing out to the board.

"Dom game" is really hard to write about, man. I've tried to do it and haven't been able to pull it off.

If there is a guy out there writing about this stuff, I'd love to read it.

But think about this. How many women want to be choked, spanked, totally owned?

Women want to be owned by one man.

Cheating comes about when a man hasn't properly asserted ownership.

Hey, try this.

Next time take out a magic marker and write, "Daddy's girl" on a girl's tit and "my slut" on her ass.

If she has black marker that doesn't just wash off, who is she fucking the next day?

I think that a lot of guys aren't really pushing the envelope of what is possible.

please excuse my sloppy handwriting with the Sharpie. and this was early rope work, i have since upgraded my collection to high end hemp.

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:16 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Inspiring!

So what's in the dom's toolbox? 5 pieces of rope about 10ft in length? Sharpie? What else?

Reaper and Mike, could you guys start a thread on tying up girls and treating them as big sluts in the bedroom? I would be interested in reading about it.

Hats off to you Reaper.

Meeting a girl for some bondage fun on Sunday. I'll post a few photos of my handiwork.

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:21 PM)Pyre Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2013 02:16 PM)reaper23 Wrote:  

Inspiring!

So what's in the dom's toolbox? 5 pieces of rope about 10ft in length? Sharpie? What else?

those are old ropes i got from the hardware store, i dont use those anymore.

I now have 2 30ft and 4 15ft hemp ropes

safety shears as well, dont forget those! though never have had to use them

here is a good starter kit:

http://twistedmonk.com/valueline.htm

and of course i have a flogger, a horse whip, some collars, chain, etc.