Quote: (08-01-2013 07:27 AM)Acute Angle Wrote:
Quote: (07-31-2013 11:12 PM)TravelHardcore Wrote:
But when I go for the panties she looked me dead in the eye and said: "NO!" (like she means it).
Okay: reframing and humor to the rescue. I step it back a moment, we make out some more, chilling. But when I try to re-escalate, AGAIN she won't let me touch her pussy. I pull out the Fisto-invented routine for this exact situation...
Well handled. But I suggest this post could carry some sort of health warning for noobs: "Only do this if you have plenty of experience with LMR and can calibrate very well."
Some guys could end up in prison (or worse) if they can't read women well. I tend to think, "If I was recording this, how would it sound to a neutral observer? Or a cop? Or a judge?"
No criticism of you, THC. I just think guys need to protect their freedom first. No pussy is worth going to jail for.
Quote: (08-01-2013 07:47 AM)Vicious Wrote:
AA, this is Asia not the US.
I have to agree with Acute Angle on this, as I had the same feeling when reading the post. It takes an experienced guy to pull something off like this without running the risk of getting themselves in trouble. Perhaps the cops won't do much, though they may negotiate a financial mediation, but if she does have some second thoughts, it could end up with some local guys getting pissed off and showing up at your door, which is never a good thing in these parts. The life of a white man is not worth much here - now imagine if some guy's daughter or gf makes up a story of white boy raping her in hopes to preserve her dignity?
I actually had a somewhat minor scare once of this nature in Thailand. I used to have this move where I'd be mostly hands-off with a girl in public, as is expected with halfway-decent women there, but if I was reading the right signs then as soon as we stepped into the elevator on the way up to my room I'd push her against the wall and start making out with her - kind of an "ok no one's looking so let's turn it up 5 notches thing" and this had always had great results for me transitioning the situation fast and skipping most of the LMR when we got to the room.
Works killer with American women too.
Anyways, I picked up this Thai girl one night who did not seem to have much experience with foreign guys at all, but a Japanese dude I was hanging out with was seducing her friend and it ended up with her going home with me as there was "only one bed." She said the usual "we just go sleep" bit, and we know what that means - on the way in the tuk tuk she was getting all lovey and hanging on me, putting hands on my leg and all that. So she seemed to know the score and be properly heated up in my eyes.
Well, we stepped into the elevator and I went for my signature move, putting my hand on her waist and turning her towards me while pushing her against the wall of the elevator for a makeout when the door closed. Just taking control.
Uh oh - not this time. She flipped the fuck out and started screaming and I jumped back like 'what the fuck?" I'd never in my life ever been accused of trying to be indecent with or rape anyone, but I felt like that was what was going on, and here I am the only farang in this neighborhood let alone building. I tried to calm her down to no avail while she's screaming bloody murder and when we got to my floor stepped out but she wouldn't budge and closed the door real quick and headed back downstairs.
I should have just gone to bed and said fuck it but I wanted to plead my case, and I was drunk as hell, so I went downstairs to talk with her and she was sitting on the corner in front of my building crying like a legitimate rape or murder victim or something and on the phone with her friend. She had some rough-looking guy come get her and they took off after we had a few words (I shouldn't even have been there by this point, but like I said I was pretty drunk).
I think the Thai came with half a mind to teach me a lesson, by the look in his eyes, but when he saw my pissed off body language and the relative size of me I don't think he wanted to go there. I knew it was dumb but I was offended, embarrassed, and pissed off enough to brawl a Thai over this, consequences be damned. I mean, this was my home here - I'd lived in that building 3 1/2 years and all these older folks are just now getting up to go to work and who knows what this bitch is hollering about me.
The next morning when I got up I half-expected some guys to be waiting for me downstairs as I had no idea what type of shit she'd said really happened when the guy saw she went with a farang. I came out of the elevator with a pen in my pocket, ready to stab some fools in the neck if I had to, but no one was there.
Anyways, kind of a long, pointless story - all I'm trying to say is that even if we think we have a handle on what's going on out here, things can turn ugly in a hot second. I personally think THC is playing with fire a bit in the above post.
I do realize him and Fisto pull this stuff off a lot, and they have a lot more game and have banged a lot more women than I have, so I certainly respect the intuitive knowledge they've gained in this department. But at the same time I personally wouldn't be all that surprised if someone following that line of conquest had it backfire on him in a bad way.
Not to mention that with as many notches as you guys get on a weekly basis, the level of persistence seems a little more risky than what it's worth.
In any case, I agree with AA that at least the noobs should be very careful with this type of behavior. I'll trust the veterans know what they're doing. That's my two cents anyways - carry on.
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