Hayes: Those older guys are going way above their level, which is admirable, but the girls are pretty average for Ukraine. They are like a 5 here, at the most.

Quote: (07-01-2013 12:42 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

I think Prosal makes the mistake to take in face value when the girls tell him how much they love his sophistication and French culture. In reality what they like are the free vaccations, free apartment and free food and drinks.It is the same as the Balkan guy who gets flattered for having a big cock while all the slavic girls want from him is the money and free vaccations he provides.Of course these slavic women lies can create a good atmosphere and this is what they serve after all our Wohlgefuhl.Man prefers lies to reality and this is part of slavic magic.

The best way to act towards the things a Ukrainian girl tells you is bemusement. It could be true, but I wouldn't go writing it in stone.

This thread is funny in that it's becoming a competition on who knows Ukrainian girls the best... after we've all been lied, cheated, and played by them.

Hayes who cares whatvthey say? I mean we all know Ukrainian women tell the truth. It's like American girls saying they don't want jerks and like nice guys. We all know how that plays out lol.
Second, obviously money helPs, but there is something you need to understand. If the girls had money they are in even more trouble. Most successful guys don't want successful sex and the city type chicks. The rich go to the village to get brides. My wife friends are considered rich. They have trouble. They will not date guys with less money,culture etc. It makes it harder for them to get guys. One friend is very hot but she will always be single because of this.
It's like the sex and the city episode where the lawyer chick on thecspeed dating learns that she needs to say flight attendant to get a guy.
Second don't judges guys looks to harshly. Fsu girls havectheir own non holly wood style tastes. Sure the young ones are getting brainwash by hollywoood. But they also have their own sex symbols. They look nothing like brad Pitt lol. In fact most fsu chicks(over 30) don't find him good looking. Remember putin was voted the guy most chicks wanted to marry. Did American chicks want Obama or bush?Your pic of the guy In glasses doesn't faze us. He looks actually like the typical middle age Slav.

Quote: (07-02-2013 08:46 AM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

Hayes who cares whatvthey say? I mean we all know Ukrainian women tell the truth. It's like American girls saying they don't want jerks and like nice guys. We all know how that plays out lol.
Second, obviously money helPs, but there is something you need to understand. If the girls had money they are in even more trouble. Most successful guys don't want successful sex and the city type chicks. The rich go to the village to get brides. My wife friends are considered rich. They have trouble. They will not date guys with less money,culture etc. It makes it harder for them to get guys. One friend is very hot but she will always be single because of this.
It's like the sex and the city episode where the lawyer chick on thecspeed dating learns that she needs to say flight attendant to get a guy.
Second don't judges guys looks to harshly. Fsu girls havectheir own non holly wood style tastes. Sure the young ones are getting brainwash by hollywoood. But they also have their own sex symbols. They look nothing like brad Pitt lol. In fact most fsu chicks(over 30) don't find him good looking. Remember putin was voted the guy most chicks wanted to marry. Did American chicks want Obama or bush?Your pic of the guy In glasses doesn't faze us. He looks actually like the typical middle age Slav.

all valid points. the old fat guy w/ glasses pictured above is actually american.

but yeah i hear you. Looks standards do vary from region to region. take for example this girl here:



she's fucking this guy right now:


clearly looks standards in certain regions aren't very high. but then again i guess some women will take what they can get.

There you go. But you can't say theirctastes are low or high,it's just difference. I assure you they think Anglo women have low tastes in men. You gotta stoP lOoking at American culture as the center of the universe. Hollywood has already brainwashed our chicks on a standard of beauty that is different than the global standard. Women are sold on images of what they should like. In Anglo countries it young looking girlish looking pretty boys. In France it is something else. In southern Europe it's something else. I getvthe feeling you are very young and have let society dictate how you should think and behave. Part of learning game is to break away Frontenac and manipulate the chicks to your version.

Hayes, are you gonna ask some chick you are about to fuck, "have you ever fucked an old, bald, fat guy," when she is lying naked in front of you? And then if she says, "yes" you will walk out the door?

The scrawny guy might fuck her like an animal and she is hooked.

I don't know, I think those two above kind of suit each other, have the same sort of face, same sort of nose, similar sort of demeanor - except she has big boobs. He's a 5.5 and she's a 6.3, no biggy.

Quote: (07-02-2013 11:07 AM)tiggaling Wrote:  

I don't know, I think those two above kind of suit each other, have the same sort of face, same sort of nose, similar sort of demeanor - except she has big boobs. He's a 5.5 and she's a 6.3, no biggy.

+1. I am not even sure how she rates. One also has to note that FSU girls are talented make up artists. A 4-5 looks like a 7-8 after made up. The couple does look similar. They are the average devushka and gopnik couple one see's in FSU.
It seems the poorer the guy, the more shaved or short his hair is. Something I always noticed is other than being better dressed, successful(non mafia types) guys will have more longer hair and wear glasses. Glasses is the rage with the wealthy. I seen wealthy chicks also wearing them. Also if you see a guy or chick with braces..it often means money.Similar to the ghetto guys with gold teeth?

I hate the ranking system, all I know is put the girl with black hair in any North American city and she is stopping traffic.

Dudes in my city would be all over that in a heartbeat.

Too many guys make the mistake of judging other men based on looks, it is a very western mentality.

Quote: (07-02-2013 10:57 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Hayes, are you gonna ask some chick you are about to fuck, "have you ever fucked an old, bald, fat guy," when she is lying naked in front of you? And then if she says, "yes" you will walk out the door?

The scrawny guy might fuck her like an animal and she is hooked.

yes. i will walk out the door. Infact i would RUN. I'm not gonna be unfair to myself. I work too hard in the gym, work too hard on my diet, my abs, spend too much money on nice clothes & jewelry, spend too much money on making my skin look good too with skin creams, i've worked to hard in school and i have stressed so hard to "improve" my own looks overtime and my financial resources just to be deserving of some good exotic looking "pussy".

and now that i have chosen FSU as my hunting ground, learning russian and getting around the bullshit in the environment and learning the game is also giving me headaches too.

Part of it is my ego. When people see me with my hot east european chick i want to look credible. I don't want people-society to do this when they see my with my girl



like they probably do to those old guys or the geeky guys i see with these girls with.


the other part of it is, me saying to myself "goddamnn... that girl allows these old foreign men who are shitty looking to bust their nuts insider her!! ugghhh..WTF is wrong with her does she not have any integrity!!!"

and just the fact that she lowered herself - to the old fat guy level - possibly more than once makes her dirty to me now, no matter how pretty she is. YUCK.

according to my source in Kiev... some beautiful women do stick it out with their vibrator waiting for Mr.Right to come along , they pray and they don't get with these old men or geeks. But some who are hard up, living in a russian ghetto and are tired of men who drink too much and beat them and so on, will go for it.

there are no perfect virgins and these girls have to fuck somebody i guess - so i guess for that girl picture above might as well fuck that skinny anorexic looking dude pictured above. she's 33 years old too.

but yeah the FSU chick would lie their naked and just the thought of it...

..would make me loose my erection. yes. i would run!! BUT THAT'S THE OTHER THING. Depending on the type of chick she is, there is no way to know what she is hiding or what she felt she had to do to SURVIVE. there is not way to know.

who's to say that if i tried to find out what her body count was and the types of dudes she fucked. who's to say she would tell me the WHOLE TRUTH. We do accept that depending on the type of girl and the region, that lying and hiding shit is apart of their culture.

that's why having good contacts is CRUCIAL who can give you the 411. guys that go over there scouting the environment first and making useful observations and researching the shit are smart. that's what you should do. learn the landscape!!! and don't get caught up in the bullshit.

but hey that's just me but yeah...i agree western looks mentality and european and (east european) mentality is very different. I agree.

Quote: (07-02-2013 12:03 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I hate the ranking system, all I know is put the girl with black hair in any North American city and she is stopping traffic.

Dudes in my city would be all over that in a heartbeat.

Too many guys make the mistake of judging other men based on looks, it is a very western mentality.

Ranking is all relative to location. As you probably know, you become immune to average looks once you live in a place long enough.

Hell, who knows what that chick looks like without all that makeup. heh

Quote: (07-02-2013 12:12 PM)hayesbrandon30 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-02-2013 10:57 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Hayes, are you gonna ask some chick you are about to fuck, "have you ever fucked an old, bald, fat guy," when she is lying naked in front of you? And then if she says, "yes" you will walk out the door?

The scrawny guy might fuck her like an animal and she is hooked.

yes. i will walk out the door. Infact i would RUN. I'm not gonna be unfair to myself. I work too hard in the gym, work too hard on my diet, my abs, spend too much money on nice clothes & jewelry, spend too much money on making my skin look good too with skin creams, i've worked to hard in school and i have stressed so hard to "improve" my own looks overtime and my financial resources just to be deserving of some good exotic looking "pussy".

Part of it is my ego.

You seem to have a rather bizarre idea that being old, or not looking like your idea of a bejeweled, jacked lounge lizard is some type of moral failing. Hopefully, you will live a long life, but unfortunately one day you may be seventy-five and you will look like shit. And that "scrawny" guy might drop you like a stone in a 10k footrace, and might be far healthier than you. Or he might be a genius in physics, or at something completely beyond your ability. He also looks calm and confident.

Is your value as a person largely form grooming and preening? It's great to educate and take care of yourself, but at some point people have a right to ask the narcissist, what have you done for anyone else?

The hottest chick I've known had a previous boyfriend that sold penny stocks to retirees ( a very risky investment not good for people who need to NOT lose their money). I bet he was probably good looking.

Hayes seems as interested in analyzing a old man's worth/appearance/game than enjoying the women..

It's like that episode of Seinfeld for George steals a chick from a guy named Neil that looks like him. Instead of banging the chick, he's stalking the dude to find out how to be like him. Jerry says: "Who cares... you out-Neiled him!" But his obsession over trying to find out WHY she's banging Neil led to him losing the chick.

Quote: (07-02-2013 12:18 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Quote: (07-02-2013 12:12 PM)hayesbrandon30 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-02-2013 10:57 AM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Hayes, are you gonna ask some chick you are about to fuck, "have you ever fucked an old, bald, fat guy," when she is lying naked in front of you? And then if she says, "yes" you will walk out the door?

The scrawny guy might fuck her like an animal and she is hooked.

yes. i will walk out the door. Infact i would RUN. I'm not gonna be unfair to myself. I work too hard in the gym, work too hard on my diet, my abs, spend too much money on nice clothes & jewelry, spend too much money on making my skin look good too with skin creams, i've worked to hard in school and i have stressed so hard to "improve" my own looks overtime and my financial resources just to be deserving of some good exotic looking "pussy".

Part of it is my ego.

You seem to have a rather bizarre idea that being old is some type of moral failing. Hopefully, you will live a long life, but unfortunately one day you may be seventy-five and you will look like shit. Will you consider your existence "disgusting" at that point?

Instead of feeling disgust, I would feel excitement knowing you have more options when you get older.

We have a lot of young guys on here. To them, 40 is old so I wouldn't put much thought into it. We have all been there ourselves.

I plan on being one dirty old man myself.

Quote: (07-02-2013 12:22 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

I plan on being one dirty old man myself.

DirtIEST old man!!

Quote: (07-02-2013 05:50 AM)hayesbrandon30 Wrote:  

Part of it is my ego. When people see my with my hot east european chick i want to look credible. I don't want people-society to do this when they see my with my girl like they probably do to those old guys or the geeky guys i see with these girls with.

the other part of it is, me saying to myself "goddamnn... that girl allowed that old man who is shitty looking to bust his nut insider her!! ugghhh..WTF is wrong with her does she not have any integrity!!!"

and just the fact that she lowered herself - to the old fat guy level - possibly more than once makes her dirty to me now, no matter how pretty she is. YUCK.

So you are gonna let other people's opinions control you, rather than just have fun and be happy? On a side note, it seems a lot of guys get bent when they hear about the history of a woman before she met him. But somehow a girl has to accept all the shit the man has done. Just an onservation.

No hate directed at you Hayes, you have every right to your opinion and what will make you happy. Just trying to understand the mindset is all.

I mean, I might be upset a bit if she is the town whore and everyone has banged her, but I have the choice of leaving. But if I met a gal that I liked, I gotta hope I can have a bit of understanding about her life and make some peace with it. But I am not sure if I would have a huge reaction to it, just walk right?

Ha damn Hayes I disagree with your entire view and I'm a young guy.

You really care that you look "credible" to random people on the street? Who gives a fuck. When I'm 75 and ugly I will not care if people "judge me" for being with a young girl (relative).

They can point and laugh just like the gifs you threw up and I'll walk by and throw them a nickel. Laugh. Polish my shoes a bit and start making out with the girl on the spot.

We are all going to get old. That's a fact of life, no matter how many creams we put on our face you me and everyone else on here is going to be an ugly fuck in the future.

Shit you know I actually have the reverse view entirely I love it when I get snickers from people if I am with a "hot chick". It does not look credible. Do you know why I don't care? Because if you don't look credible it means you achieved something they could never do.

If you look credible with the girl you're with... It means you can do better.

Bring on the haterade and laughter, I live for me, not for dork ass losers (99% of the world).

+1 to Rude

The girl with the black hair is a 5?? Really? I know its easy to post here and play Top Model, but 8.5 out of 10 guys in the US would take her against the field on any given Friday in any given venue.

Quote: (07-02-2013 12:12 PM)hayesbrandon30 Wrote:  

yes. i will walk out the door. Infact i would RUN. I'm not gonna be unfair to myself. I work too hard in the gym, work too hard on my diet, my abs, spend too much money on nice clothes & jewelry, spend too much money on making my skin look good too with skin creams, i've worked to hard in school and i have stressed so hard to "improve" my own looks overtime and my financial resources just to be deserving of some good exotic looking "pussy".

These EE threads seem to always attract the strangest cats.

Anyone else notice that the guys that always talk about there "abs" on a male forum always launch these suspect posts?

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spend too much money on making my skin look good too with skin creams

Skin creams?

Lord, please help the younger generation.

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Wait, this hayesbrandon30 guy has been on here before.

Don't you guys remember a guy on here getting mad that older guys were getting girls in EE?

I am sure I could find the thread. Some of these pictures look familiar.

Anyone been to Kachalka Muscle Beach in Ukraine?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/your-...d-this-one

i had a good laugh on this most recent page.

goddam those EE chicks are hot.

Quote: (07-02-2013 01:00 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Anyone been to Kachalka Muscle Beach in Ukraine?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/copyranter/your-...d-this-one

Cool gym. Medellin has a couple like these on a smaller scale.

Quote: (07-02-2013 05:50 AM)hayesbrandon30 Wrote:  

Quote: (07-02-2013 12:54 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Wait, this hayesbrandon30 guy has been on here before.

Don't you guys remember a guy on here getting mad that older guys were getting girls in EE?

I am sure I could find the thread. Some of these pictures look familiar.

The couple pictured in the above photo run a popular dating agency in Ukraine. Might have popped up on the forum before.

EDIT: Here's the thread: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-20266.html

Quote: (07-02-2013 12:54 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Wait, this hayesbrandon30 guy has been on here before.

Don't you guys remember a guy on here getting mad that older guys were getting girls in EE?

I am sure I could find the thread. Some of these pictures look familiar.

There was a poster named hayesbrandon23 who was banned a while back.

Quote: (07-02-2013 01:16 PM)Soma Wrote:  

The couple pictured in the above photo run a popular dating agency in Ukraine. Might have popped up on the forum before.

Good find. Mark Davis seem to be a nice person. Those pics should be removed, as the rambling and semi-coherent BS nonsense that goes with.

Quote: (07-02-2013 01:40 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

Quote: (07-02-2013 12:54 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Wait, this hayesbrandon30 guy has been on here before.

Don't you guys remember a guy on here getting mad that older guys were getting girls in EE?

I am sure I could find the thread. Some of these pictures look familiar.

There was a poster named hayesbrandon23 who was banned a while back.

Damn, he has been banned that many times now he is on 30?

+1 on what WestCoast said.