Quote: (04-11-2013 10:13 AM)Farmageddon Wrote:  

Roosh (or Tuthmosis), can you ban thegmanifesto already? He does add a modicum of value to the forum, but your prior assessment was right; any thread he is involved in degenerates into petty arguments and ad hominem attacks.

See the Iraq War thread for another reference:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid397750

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid397758

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid397856

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid398228

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid398315

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid398395

You've been here since 2011 and have 2 rep points.

Why don't you stop stalking other forum members and find a way to contribute value to other forum members?

Quote: (04-11-2013 07:42 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

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Neil, you used to PM people asking for rep points. Rep points serve a good function, I'll agree, but isn't that sort of needy?

Aren't you also the guy who put out a book with a bunch of typos...and when your potential customers on the forum said they didn't like typos, you basically cried that they should stop caring about typos? When someone told you to hire a copy editor, you cried about that?

http://mattforney.com/2012/08/31/around-...skywalker/ ("Neil is not a native English speaker, and despite 80 Girls being a finished, commercial product, it reads like a first draft that was stitched together in one night. Typos, malaprops, run-on sentences and punctuation errors abound, working in concert to kill any atmosphere the book tries to build up.")

Didn't you also make a racist joke leading to another forum member (who was part of the racial group you attacked) joking that you had herpes..and didn't you cry about that?

http://www.rooshvforum.network/showthread.ph...pid=183381

You are, to put it mildly, a sensitive dude.

I would certainly use stronger language in real life, but have been a bit kinder and gentler on the forum lately.

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You've been here since 2011 and have 2 rep points.

Why don't you stop stalking other forum members and find a way to contribute value to other forum members?

Your point? My criticism remains valid even if I signed up on 4/1/13 and had zero rep points. Why the hard on for rep points anyway? You sound like Mixx.

I was actively involved in the discussion I linked to. How exactly is that stalking? You sound like a chick.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid397608

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid397754

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid398019

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid398022

I sincerely believe that thegmanifesto is a detriment to this community. Literally any discussion he is involved in reverts to petty name calling, ad hominem attacks, and fucking juvenile arguments. Pretty much exactly like what is happening now.

Basically, I'm just agreeing with Roosh:

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G Manifesto must be back because the moderator reports are blowing up. I've repeatedly contacted him in private to encourage him to be a team player here, but he continues to antagonize the membership (or the membership antagonizes him). Whenever he's here, there is more bickering and insults thrown around. I'm not sure who's at fault for that, but there is a clear link between him and a more toxic forum atmosphere.

G posts all of his advice on his blog. If he doesn't post here, guys who enjoy his writing can still check it out. But for the mental health of the forum, I don't think it's a good idea if he is an active member.

I hate to bring this out in public, but my private attempts have obviously failed. My polite requests have been ignored. If a member has so many critics that it lowers the signal to ratio on the forum, something has to change. Not everyone has the personality to be a member of a community this large.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-17592.html

Quote: (04-11-2013 07:53 AM)sucio44 Wrote:  

OH SHIT!! Who would've imagined the Mystery thread getting this real. Roosh, I think suspensions are in order. BTW, not much difference between 36 and 38.

Why is it always guys with no (or low) rep points crying for suspensions?

Why don't you guys say, "Look, I know rep points are 'gay' in a sense and do not really mean anything. Yet no one thinks I've ever posted anything legit on the forum. Maybe I should change that. Maybe I should sharing useful information rather than crying to the principal."

Just a thought.

(Please don't report my post.)

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:20 PM)Farmageddon Wrote:  

Your point? My criticism remains valid even if I signed up on 4/1/13 and had zero rep points. Why the hard on for rep points anyway. You sound like Mixx.

You're like a guy who walks into a house party, see two guys wrestling, and yells break it up.

Don't you realize that makes you look like a dork?

Plus, you don't add value. You should have a sense of gratitude for those who actually contribute useful information and who add color to the forum.

Instead you are acting like a socially unaware entitled teenager.

I clicked on your threads. You don't have anything useful to say.

Why not go out, actually run some game, learn some stuff, and post that?

Or would the forum be better off if everyone whined instead of actually posting information other guys can use?

Please allow me to return to a distinctive peacocking/gay/bizarre aspect of Mystery Method. Style made a series of video experiments to challenge conventional wisdom. His actors would do bizarre stunts, like talk to women on the sidewalk while wearing ballerina tutus or dildos stuck on their heads. Or they would ask women to leave the bar to see their windowless van. His control group would just dress normally and use conventional, but lame lines like "Hey, how are you." The weird guys got a few phone numbers, but the normal guys got nothing. Part of this is attracting attention, and part of it may be inner game confidence.

The drawback is these weird guys are entertainers, not closers. What if the weird guys get a Day 2, but are incongruent? Might the normal guys have a lower opening rate but a higher closing rate? It is like the late Vince Kelvin videos, where he literally jumped in front of women and clowned around, but they never seemed to take him seriously? Kelvin seemed to have all the attention and sexual success of a street mime.

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:20 PM)Farmageddon Wrote:  

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You've been here since 2011 and have 2 rep points.

Why don't you stop stalking other forum members and find a way to contribute value to other forum members?

Your point? My criticism remains valid even if I signed up on 4/1/13 and had zero rep points. Why the hard on for rep points anyway? You sound like Mixx.

I was actively involved in the discussion I linked to. How exactly is that stalking? You sound like a chick.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid397608

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid397754

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid398019

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-21877-...#pid398022

I sincerely believe that thegmanifesto is a detriment to this community. Literally any discussion he is involved in reverts to petty name calling, ad hominem attacks, and fucking juvenile arguments. Pretty much exactly like what is happening now.

I guess in a sense that is petty name calling, no?

I don't care, though, since in real life you simply would have nothing to say.

I clicked those threads. You are very pro war.

When did you serve?

Or let me guess...The same guy crying about words posted online also lacked the courage to sign the dotted line on a recruitment contract. That's my guess.

Some trivia: I was actually commissioned as an Army officer. Went to OCS at Ft. Benning and everything.

No keyboard warrior or chickenhawk bullshit from me.

Perhaps you should sit down at the little kid's table while the men talk?

Thank you for proving mine and Roosh's point that any discussion about or involving gmanifesto degenerates into petty arguments amongst forum members. Appreciate the hat tip.

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:28 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

No keyboard warrior or chickenhawk bullshit from me.

Perhaps you should sit down at the little kid's table while the men talk?

   

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (04-11-2013 07:42 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

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Neil, you used to PM people asking for rep points. Rep points serve a good function, I'll agree, but isn't that sort of needy?

That's a bald faced lie!! Please show any evidence of this!!!

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:28 PM)Divorco Wrote:  

Please allow me to return to a distinctive peacocking/gay/bizarre aspect of Mystery Method.

After reading soup's, eel's, and a couple other posts, I think the dialectic is complete.

The actual stuff MM advocate is ineffective and mostly nonsense (props, silly hats, eye liners).

The concepts (shit tests are a way for a girl to see if you're strong enough for her, most girls are going to LMR, creating attraction is a skill that can be learned is not something you're either born with or you're not) are legit.

I can't really disagree with that and probably the concepts are buried so deep within my unconscious mind that I didn't even realize where they came from - since by the time I got back into things (had been married for a long time), the stuff sort of filters from the Internet zeitgeist into my brain.

Good thread, in any event.

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Aren't you also the guy who put out a book with a bunch of typos...and when your potential customers on the forum said they didn't like typos, you basically cried that they should stop caring about typos? When someone told you to hire a copy editor, you cried about that?

http://mattforney.com/2012/08/31/around-...skywalker/ ("Neil is not a native English speaker, and despite 80 Girls being a finished, commercial product, it reads like a first draft that was stitched together in one night. Typos, malaprops, run-on sentences and punctuation errors abound, working in concert to kill any atmosphere the book tries to build up.")

Matt Forney review was of the very first version of my book which indeed contained typo's. I later hired an native Canadian editor and he took all the mistakes out. Matt Forney then re-reviewed the book and was very positive about it. Of course you don't mention this in your post.

Isn't there already threads on Neils book? Why is he bringing it up on this thread. And screen plays? Selfish Neil indeed.

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:34 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (04-11-2013 07:42 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

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Neil, you used to PM people asking for rep points. Rep points serve a good function, I'll agree, but isn't that sort of needy?

That's a bald faced lie!! Please show any evidence of this!!!

You said you weren't a whiner and I showed you several posts where you were whining.

Now you're saying you were not doing something else.

Your credibility isn't exactly on solid footing, ya know?

Again, you're a sensitive dude who has some pretty fragile self-esteem. It's not going to surprise anyone that you needed more rep points to boost your self-esteem.

I delete my old PMs, though, so I guess you're right that I can't prove anything.

(I can live with that.)

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Didn't you also make a racist joke leading to another forum member (who was part of the racial group you attacked) joking that you had herpes..and didn't you cry about that?

http://www.rooshvforum.network/showthread.ph...pid=183381

Another suggestive statement. The whole forum knows I didn't mean that in a racist way. I used it as a joke with many girls there in the Phils. And explained it here: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-11440-...#pid183042 After which no one made a problem about it except for guys here looking to hurt me.

Hows this for racist? I've been dating a dark African Muslim girl for the last 5 months. She's coming over tonight and looks like this:

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Not her but like two drops of water. Guess what this "racist" is gonna do all night. Think of that when you type up your hateful posts guys.

It seems like the two guys who have game blogs related to their forum names are the ones duking it out for the lion's share of props, rep points, etc.

This makes sense if $ is involved in those blogs.

I personally don't care much about my rep points, its cool to get them, but it's actually more useful for other people who read what I write so that they'd know if it was worth checking out my posts.

At least that's what I tend to do.

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:42 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Isn't there already threads on Neils book? Why is he bringing it up on this thread. And screen plays? Selfish Neil indeed.

I like tacos.

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:50 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:42 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Isn't there already threads on Neils book? Why is he bringing it up on this thread. And screen plays? Selfish Neil indeed.

I like tacos.

Taco Bell is nasty.

   

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:53 PM)NY Digital Wrote:  

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:50 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:42 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Isn't there already threads on Neils book? Why is he bringing it up on this thread. And screen plays? Selfish Neil indeed.

I like tacos.

Taco Bell is nasty.

Only when golfing.

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:44 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:34 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:17 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Quote: (04-11-2013 07:42 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

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Neil, you used to PM people asking for rep points. Rep points serve a good function, I'll agree, but isn't that sort of needy?

That's a bald faced lie!! Please show any evidence of this!!!

You said you weren't a whiner and I showed you several posts where you were whining.

Now you're saying you were not doing something else.

Your credibility isn't exactly on solid footing, ya know?

Again, you're a sensitive dude who has some pretty fragile self-esteem. It's not going to surprise anyone that you needed more rep points to boost your self-esteem.

I delete my old PMs, though, so I guess you're right that I can't prove anything.

(I can live with that.)

OOH, you "deleted" your old pm's??? How convenient! Could it be that your talking nonsense?

That's it for tonight or perhaps forever. I don't have to take false accusations from anyone here.

Bye

DaFuq happened to this thread? I can't understand that among all the topics on this forum this one is would be the great divider.

Quote: (04-11-2013 12:49 PM)soup Wrote:  

It seems like the two guys who have game blogs related to their forum names are the ones duking it out for the lion's share of props, rep points, etc.

This makes sense if $ is involved in those blogs.

I personally don't care much about my rep points, its cool to get them, but it's actually more useful for other people who read what I write so that they'd know if it was worth checking out my posts.

At least that's what I tend to do.

I don't care. Like I said, they don't mean anything. I can't go cash them at the bank. I am bad about repping others and really should leave more of them.

But if a guy has been here for a while and has no rep points...That means the guy really isn't posting things that are helping other guys.

Now, sure, not everyone has to help out. Some guys just wanna lurk. Other guys wanna b.s. about topics that aren't really "reppable." Cool.

But if you're going to be the first to cry about the rules and what's good/bad for the forum, shouldn't you be trying to make the forum better by posting information other guys are able to use?

"I care so much about the forum that I don't post stuff that helps other guys and actually benefits the forum." = illogical.

Neil's not gone. He's just looking for another thread to hijack to talk about his book. Or golf.