Ok, now we are having an intelligent discussion.
Quote: (01-24-2013 05:20 PM)Technics Wrote:
I concede the points you bring up: 2am closing time, state income tax, and isolation from other areas. However, as HC said, California has all those diverse outdoor sports/activities and skiing/snowboarding at numerous resorts.
People always say this, but what are these "activities"?
How often is someone living in Santa Monica packing up the SUV to drive to the desert to rock climb? Once every three years? At most? Most likely never.
How often is someone living in La Jolla going skiing? Three times a winter at the very most? Most likely never.
How often is someone living in Silverlake going to the beach? Five times in a year during the summer? Maybe zero.
Have you ever lived in California? Or are you just speculating like everyone else that makes those comments?
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Also: more business opportunity and industry in California,
Agreed 100%. Although it depends on your industry.
Also, you are now conflating "California" into the discussion to make your point. Quit moving the goal posts around.
And it is a non-issue for someone location independent.
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There are more things to do, more culture.
Again, people always say this. Like what?
"More culture"?
Not sure how there is more "culture" than Miami where you have people from almost every country on earth in the same place.
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Basically what it comes down to is this: in the big areas of: 1) Nightlife, 2) beach, 3) girls, Miami wins it (granted, these are huge areas). However, CA still takes it for me overall when you consider overall life, outside of girls/partying.
Ok. So Miami wins the three most important things in the Playboy lifestyle, but CA wins?
There is some disconnect there.
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Also, the smoking thing that you rail about so often against LA, is a huge POSITIVE for me.
Fair enough. Freedom of choice isn't one of your priorities.
How long have you lived in both places to come to this conclusion about "overall life"?
Quote: (01-24-2013 05:22 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:
Good move to this thread G. I love South Beach - in the winter.
Given the choice of SD or Ft L I choose SD. Palm Beach or B Hills? Hills easy.
I lived 5 years in California. Lived in San Luis Obispo worked in Santa Barbara (it was a hike). Moved south to LA County - PV for a year. The last 2 years were in Newport beach.
My family has had roots in S Florida for 50 years. Owned a condo on the beach, I lived on A1A for 5 years, than moved to Las Olas Ft Lauderdale for a year.
Top marks for redirection.
I noticed you haven't lived in San Diego or Beverly Hills, which was what we are discussing.
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I personally do not care about last call times and smoking laws and would not make life decisions based upon them.
So
freedom is not something you base your life decisions on either. We differ on that. And that is fine. Some people love having people tell them what to do and how they should live their life. I don't happen to be one of them.
If freedom doesn't matter to you, what about money? Does that matter to you?
Let's say hypothetically, you were making, I don't know, let's say $550k per year.
And living in South Beach was saving you 55k.
Would you still have the same opinion?
Your not giving one reason why you like, two places your have never lived in, San Diego and Beverly Hills more. Not even one concrete example. Not even a silly Vignette. Nothing.
Remember you were the one who initiated this discussion by saying I got "hit in the head a few too many times", and then you can't back your self up. Don't bring this weak sh*t to the hoop.
Maybe you can convince me, but so far you haven't even made your opening remarks. Hell, you are still in the parking lot of the courthouse.