[InternationPlayboy]

Shiiiit, suga free.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMxGdLdMNRc

[thegmanifesto]

(01-12-2012 03:16 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

(01-12-2012 02:10 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-12-2012 12:21 AM)InternationPlayboy Wrote:  

Miami does have high quality, but the girls aren't very friendly. Cali has plenty of good looking girls. If you're into latinas because you like the way they act, don't count on Miami being anything like Colombia or Brazil when it comes to Latinas. They are just as bad if not worse than any other American girls around.There's really nothing to do in Miami but get fucked up and party, which is fun for a little while, but at some point you need something else in your life. If you like the outdoors, Cali hands down. I hardly go to the beach because there are no waves to surf here in FL. I really wish I would have moved to cali, where I could snowboard and surf in the same day if I really wanted to. Miami really does get old fast. But if you got a big cash flow, look real good, and have ins, Miami might just be your spot.

What I like about Cali is that the dudes out there don't give an F about their chicks. Real player mentality out there, and I think that's part of the reason why the chicks in CA are usually cool. I think dudes in Miami are real thirsty. Chicks from all over love going down there because it gives them an ego boost. They get hollered at left and right, even the ugly ones. I think that's what ruins it for us who want to go down there and scoop a nice South American chick. Even though Spanish is the dominant language and the culture is Latin, the game is too American down there. If you got a dope chick in Miami, mad dudes are going to holler at her ALL THE TIME.

Guys who go down there expecting to find Colombia or Brazil will be very disappointed. You're better off "cutting out the middleman" and flying straight to the source.

You're 100% right. I always say, Miami is just about the worst latin america has to offer, in reguards to hooking up at least. The quality's there, it's just missing the ease that latin america has. But that said, it still has a lot of other things going for it as far as being an american city. The dudes out here are thirsty and the competition is fierce. I also agree that in Cali the guys don't seems as hungry, at least from what I've encountered.

Interesting take.

I would say for sure, that Miami cats are more "aggressive" than California guys.

But I wouldn't take that as California guys having more of a "player mentality".

I would say in California guys just are scared, and would then later rather hate.

I think it is more of an insecurity thing.

But I am making pretty broad brushstrokes here.

Regarding the common phrase that has been often repeated on here:

"California just has so much more to do than Miami!!!!!"

Yeah, I see that.

However, if you live in Newport or Santa Monica, how often are you really going to go to the desert and rock climb?

Are you really going to drive out there for hours 6 days a week?

I know people that claim the "California just has so much more to do than Miami" and they go camping maybe once every 3 years.

If you are a super hardcore surfer and need your fix 3 hours a day, yeah California makes sense.

Otherwise, I am not really sure what people are talking about.

Maybe someone can enlighten me.

[Donald Duck]

Quote:

However, if you live in Newport or Santa Monica, how often are you really going to go to the desert and rock climb?

Are you really going to drive out there for hours 6 days a week?

I know people that claim the "California just has so much more to do than Miami" and they go camping maybe once every 3 years.

If you are a super hardcore surfer and need your fix 3 hours a day, yeah California makes sense.

Otherwise, I am not really sure what people are talking about.

Maybe someone can enlighten me.

It could be the peace of mind of knowing you can travel to these nearby places.

If I had 200.000$ on my bank account I won't spend it all, but I know I can buy a ticket to wherever I want to.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-12-2012 12:21 PM)Donald Duck Wrote:  

Quote:

However, if you live in Newport or Santa Monica, how often are you really going to go to the desert and rock climb?

Are you really going to drive out there for hours 6 days a week?

I know people that claim the "California just has so much more to do than Miami" and they go camping maybe once every 3 years.

If you are a super hardcore surfer and need your fix 3 hours a day, yeah California makes sense.

Otherwise, I am not really sure what people are talking about.

Maybe someone can enlighten me.

It could be the peace of mind of knowing you can travel to these nearby places.

If I had 200.000$ on my bank account I won't spend it all, but I know I can buy a ticket to wherever I want to.

I see where you are coming from.

However, the "peace of mind of knowing you can travel to these nearby places" thing would apply to Miami as well.

Even more so, since it is better geographically situated.

[Brian]

yeah, one of my biggest faults w/CA is that its not really near anything. the only easy getaway is Vegas. Hawaii is doable. other then that you are at least 3 times zones away from anything else.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-12-2012 02:01 PM)Brian Wrote:  

yeah, one of my biggest faults w/CA is that its not really near anything. the only easy getaway is Vegas. Hawaii is doable. other then that you are at least 3 times zones away from anything else.

Yeah, and after you have spent over 100 nights of your life in Las Vegas, you can see how someone can burn out on the place.

The "geographic location for travel" hurdle is also a double whammy.

1. Southern California is a horrible location for world travel
2. Outside of LAX, the airports are abysmal for world travel. Orange County? Forget it. And San Diego can barely be called an "International Airport".

San Diego is the 8th largest city. And the airport ranks #27 busiest : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the...ted_States

That is a huge disparity. San Diego's airport is more suited for a small town.

Interesting info that most people don't know:

San Diego is the busiest single runway airport in the world. (Actually I just heard this once, and I like to repeat it. Not sure if it is an actual "fact")

[speakeasy]

(01-12-2012 02:01 PM)Brian Wrote:  

yeah, one of my biggest faults w/CA is that its not really near anything. the only easy getaway is Vegas. Hawaii is doable. other then that you are at least 3 times zones away from anything else.

I don't think that's much a problem for us because this is such a big state and there's so much do here I don't think it matters. Like I'd said above, Cali is like a country within a country unto itself. You can be driving up I-5 through the central valley and swear you are in Nebraska with nothing but flat farmland in every direction out to the horizon. Yet within an hour you can be at the foothills of the tallest and most rugged mountains in America(Sierras) outside of Alaska. Then you could be in the redwood forest with the world's biggest tallest trees. Then 2 hours away is death valley with landscapes that looks like Bolivia. You got glaciers(yes glaciers) and the hottest place in the western hemisphere almost within site of each other. Then there's Napa valley, Big Sur, cool central coast towns like Santa Cruz and Santa Barbara. Desert resort towns like Palm Springs. Then if you get sick Cali you can drive down to Mexico for something different. If you want to live in a "real" city, there's the Bay Area, if you want a house with a pool and palm trees and a big back yard there's SoCal. This is the best state for variety without even a close second. I've lived here almost all my life and I still haven't seen even half the shit here.

Even though the recession hit hard here, if we were our own country we'd be the 8th biggest economy in the world, just behind Brazil. We used to be number 6 before the recession. Crazy when you think about it, but that's why people say Cali is like it's own country. Most people here would rather just move to a different part of the state than to actually leave the state altogether.

(01-12-2012 02:13 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Yeah, and after you have spent over 100 nights of your life in Las Vegas, you can see how someone can burn out on the place.

I burned out on Vegas long ago. I can't be there more than 2 days a year. Love the food though.

(01-12-2012 02:13 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

San Diego is the busiest single runway airport in the world. (Actually I just heard this once, and I like to repeat it. Not sure if it is an actual "fact")

I believe it. It's the only main airport in a major city I'm aware of that has only one runway.



And another thing on Miami, is there any kind of music or culture scene there? I can't even think of one critically-acclaimed band that has ever come out of Miami. Maybe there's a lot of salsa but I'd get sick of that. I'm guessing any kind of arts/creative scene or world class museums is non-existent compared to a place like NYC or SF or even LA. It's just party, beach, fuck, party drink, fuck, beach, cocaine, party, drink. That's fine for awhile, I guess.

[thegmanifesto]

Quote:

And another thing on Miami, is there any kind of music or culture scene there? I can't even think of one critically-acclaimed band that has ever come out of Miami. Maybe there's a lot of salsa but I'd get sick of that. I'm guessing any kind of arts/creative scene or world class museums is non-existent compared to a place like NYC or SF or even LA. It's just party, beach, fuck, party drink, fuck, beach, cocaine, party, drink. That's fine for awhile, I guess.

Music in South Beach is heavy club music. You even hear club music in the drug store.

There is a ton of Latin music and obviously hip-hop in Miami.

As far as culture, I hear a lot of people say "Miami has no culture".

I don't know if I follow that line of thinking. I mean, you have a place with people from all over The Caribbean, Europe, Latin America, and Eastern Europe in one place and the place has "no culture"?

Where in America has more culture? New Orleans maybe? Seriously, the list is pretty short in my book.

Maybe I am not understanding the "Miami has no culture thing". Maybe someone can explain it to me.

A lot of times people also say, "Miami has no Art".

South Beach in an of itself is a piece of Art. There are 4 distinct architectures represented.

Miami has Art Basel, which I think may be the biggest art festival in America.

Maybe I am just misunderstanding people. Please, anyone correct me if I am wrong.

[InternationPlayboy]

(01-13-2012 02:32 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Quote:

And another thing on Miami, is there any kind of music or culture scene there? I can't even think of one critically-acclaimed band that has ever come out of Miami. Maybe there's a lot of salsa but I'd get sick of that. I'm guessing any kind of arts/creative scene or world class museums is non-existent compared to a place like NYC or SF or even LA. It's just party, beach, fuck, party drink, fuck, beach, cocaine, party, drink. That's fine for awhile, I guess.

Music in South Beach is heavy club music. You even hear club music in the drug store.

There is a ton of Latin music and obviously hip-hop in Miami.

As far as culture, I hear a lot of people say "Miami has no culture".

I don't know if I follow that line of thinking. I mean, you have a place with people from all over The Caribbean, Europe, Latin America, and Eastern Europe in one place and the place has "no culture"?

Where in America has more culture? New Orleans maybe? Seriously, the list is pretty short in my book.

Maybe I am not understanding the "Miami has no culture thing". Maybe someone can explain it to me.

A lot of times people also say, "Miami has no Art".

South Beach in an of itself is a piece of Art. There are 4 distinct architectures represented.

Miami has Art Basel, which I think may be the biggest art festival in America.

Maybe I am just misunderstanding people. Please, anyone correct me if I am wrong.

As far as music goes, G's right, it's either latin, house, or hip hop. You'll hear reggae here and there, but it's hard to come across people who listen to any type of rock.

Miami is pretty cultural. You can get food from just about any area of the world. When my friends come down I always make them try the "coladas" from Davids Cafe. I haven't seen them anywhere other than Miami and Key West (I know they come from Cuba).

As far is art goes, Miami has MAD art. Like G mentioned, Art Basil is one of the biggest are shows in the US. Even this weekend they are having the Art Deco Festival. Not to mention our sick ass design district/ wynwood area we have full of galleries. MIA is def. not lacking in the art department.

[thegmanifesto]

Hencredible Casanova -

So what is your verdict?

[Hencredible Casanova]

(01-14-2012 03:08 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Hencredible Casanova -

So what is your verdict?

Miami.

[el mechanico]

(01-14-2012 03:39 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:08 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Hencredible Casanova -

So what is your verdict?

Miami.

I don't understand why Tampa bay gets overlooked on all these threads.
This place is way better to live in and cheaper. Why Miami? Because of some models that hang in SOBE? The rest of the place is shit.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(01-14-2012 04:16 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:39 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:08 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Hencredible Casanova -

So what is your verdict?

Miami.

I don't understand why Tampa bay gets overlooked on all these threads.
This place is way better to live in and cheaper. Why Miami? Because of some models that hang in SOBE? The rest of the place is shit.

Never been to TB. What's so good about it? How the girls? Data sheet?

[el mechanico]

(01-14-2012 04:18 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 04:16 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:39 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:08 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Hencredible Casanova -

So what is your verdict?

Miami.

I don't understand why Tampa bay gets overlooked on all these threads.
This place is way better to live in and cheaper. Why Miami? Because of some models that hang in SOBE? The rest of the place is shit.

Never been to TB. What's so good about it? How the girls? Data sheet?

I written some specific ones on Clearwater and some other places. Sarasota though is probably the best place to live here. No shortage of hot friendly girls here either. A little rednecky sometimes but this place is bigger than most think.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(01-14-2012 04:25 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 04:18 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 04:16 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:39 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:08 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Hencredible Casanova -

So what is your verdict?

Miami.

I don't understand why Tampa bay gets overlooked on all these threads.
This place is way better to live in and cheaper. Why Miami? Because of some models that hang in SOBE? The rest of the place is shit.

Never been to TB. What's so good about it? How the girls? Data sheet?

I written some specific ones on Clearwater and some other places. Sarasota though is probably the best place to live here. No shortage of hot friendly girls here either. A little rednecky sometimes but this place is bigger than most think.

Sounds like a place I would visit at some point just to check it out. Haven't met anyone from there or staying out there though.

[Deluge]

(01-14-2012 04:25 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I written some specific ones on Clearwater and some other places. Sarasota though is probably the best place to live here. No shortage of hot friendly girls here either. A little rednecky sometimes but this place is bigger than most think.

I looked up the stats when you recommended it to me a little while back. The greater Tampa Bay Area is home to 4.2 million people and is growing rapidly. 76% percent of the areais Non-Hispanic White, which is a lot higher than L.A, San Diego and South Florida.

[InternationPlayboy]

(01-14-2012 04:16 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:39 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(01-14-2012 03:08 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Hencredible Casanova -

So what is your verdict?

Miami.

I don't understand why Tampa bay gets overlooked on all these threads.
This place is way better to live in and cheaper. Why Miami? Because of some models that hang in SOBE? The rest of the place is shit.

I keep in touch with a nice Brazilian girl that lives up there. She's got cute friends as well. I've been wanting to check it out for a minute.

[G Trooper]

Alright it's 2 weeks later, but I promised Mixx that I'd throw up my report from San Diego...

Headliner, I live in Miami and just had the opportunity to fly out to San Diego for the first time for a long weekend.

My buddy and I flew into LAX and got a rental to take down to San Diego...and we got hooked up and they gave us a convertible 4 door wrangler, which was perfect for that west cost vibe.

11:30 PM Thursday
1st stop ... IN N OUT BURGER my favorite fast food place that we don't have in Miami (if you have never tried a Double Double, you haven't lived, these burgers are FIRE).

We arrived Friday morning in San Diego and stayed with some friends in Pacific Beach. They have a sick house 1 block from the beach and rent is surprisingly cheap compared to what i'm used to. While my friends were at work, I went around straight daygaming. I was definitely impressed with the quality of women out in San Diego, I kept saying wow "look at all these white girls". (it's a bit more rare here in miami).

There is no shortage of women, I found some stunners out on the beach, playing volleyball, jogging on the street, hostess's along the beach bars, restaurants.

10 AM Friday:
If you get out to PB, go to a restaurant called World Famous, they have great breakfast food, with the most central location along the beach, perfect for people watching.

I saw a ridiculous hottie leaving the gym and had to go up to her. She ended up being from Sao Paulo...wore something like this...but with a much bigger butt...



7 PM Friday - End of Night:
We started the night moving around happy hours waiting for the crowd to build up. We went up and down GARNETT ST., which is where a huge strip of bars and clubs are.

I noticed alot of the bars had ratios of 4 guys to 1 girl, but then again I see that here in Miami all the time too. I also noticed that all of these stunners I saw out and about during the daytime, were not partying at the bars (quality of girls was lower at night) IMO ... so personally DAYGAME seems better in PB.

We went to a club called Beachwood, and I noticed a 2 set of brazilian girls (the only 2 non-white girls in the club). One was pretty chunky and the other was schmooking (amazing ass, fake tits, good face). So, I approached the chunky one and eventually eased into talking to the hot one. She asks me if i'm there with my wife because she saw me dancing with a random girl I brought there from happy hour. Social Proof Baam, and it was ON, with me and the hot brazilian for the rest of the night. So, we made out forever on the dancefloor, but unfortunately my friends wouldn't play good wings and talk to the chunker...so she eventually got ticked and made them leave

Fast Forward Saturday Night:
As it was my last night in PB, I had to get this brazilian girl in bed. I got her to come meet us out at the bars that night and she brought the chunker. Same thing again, no one wants her friend... As its get's to 1:30 am (LAST CALL) in San Diego ... way too early. I talk the brazilians and a couple random other girls to come back with my friends to our house for an after party. Once, we get back there me and the brazilian are pretty much just fooling around making out on the couch. Eventually, the people start to call it a night and weed out. Out of a freaking dumb mistake on my part, no one locked up the chunky brazilian, so I was pretty much SOL with her hanging out with us on the couch.

And my girl, flat out said she wouldn't have sex with her friend right next to her in the same room. Weirdly enough, the chunky brazilian was fingering herself watching me and the other one hook up

Sunday:
Had friend take me to the airport to go home after an awesome weekend, although had to leave at 9AM and got to Miami at 10PM (13 HOURS) ... due to time zone changes and 1 flight transfer.

[G Trooper]

So whats my take on it...

MIAMI / LA / OR SAN DIEGO

LA ...
Have not been when I was a wee lad, so I need to get out there to get my take on it. I have heard the girls are ridiculously hot.

SAN DIEGO ...
The West Coast vibe is so chill, which I loved. They have Mexican food restaurants every block, which are delicious, especially the Mexican breakfast burritos (phenomenal hangover cure). The girls are hot, alot of hot fit blondes, some hot brazilians, lots of asian girls (with FAKE BOOBS) ... so if you like blondes or asians with fake boobs San Diego is for you. The people out there (GUYS and GIRLS) are super cool and friendly. I think partly because there are some many transplants from all over the nation, people are very warm and welcoming.

At the bars in San Diego, I met tons of cool people were so open and easy to talk to. In MIAMI...that straight up doesn't happen, alot of people here have sticks up their butts.

Life is much more laid back in San Diego, people were meditating on the beach, work life seems a little different depending on your career. My friend and his friends are VALET guys (in their mid 20's), and they are complacent with the lifestyle it brings. Oh and the weather....probably the BEST in the nation, it was mid 70's all week with no humidity

Miami...
I love it down here. Our women are out of this world. I literally get out of work in my suit and can drive up to the gas stations to meet hot chicks! I would also says that we have significantly more hot women than San Diego did PER CAPITA. That is however, if you are attracted to our lovely latina women.

Our weather ... You better like it hot. It's January right now and it's 80 degrees. So much for the winter.

Our lifestyle ... It's pretty fast paced, everyone is competing. Everyone has to drive a Benz, BMW, Porsche, Rover, G Wagon ... to fit in, it's dumb. I didn't notice that sense of competition out in San Diego, which was cool. We've got the beach, we've got some of the best nightlife, our drinks are more expensive...but that comes with the territory, life is expensive, we have hundreds of kick ass happy hours when FRIDAY at 5 comes around, you can go out on a Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday and find bumping bars, with schmooking Latina women.

Our people ... It's tough, people are not that welcoming/friendly, our drivers our the worst in America (please someone show me another city with more accidents and crazy drivers). There are some real bad eggs down here and you have to be careful who you trust. Which is why when I meet a quality good person, I make sure to keep them around (there are some haha).

We've got the good and the bad here, just like anywhere in the world, but for me this is an awesome city, with boatloads of women, and is a prime headquarters for an up and coming international playa.

[thegmanifesto]

Moving the discussion from http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-19910-...#pid355315

(01-24-2013 04:27 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 04:18 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

But the thing is, South Beach is the ONLY thing going on in the ENTIRE state of Florida. I mean nobody here is talking about setting up base in Tallahassee, Orlando or Jacksonville. Socal has 3 major cities worth visiting in their own right and Vegas is right in our backyard. Plus a lot of smaller but cool towns like Santa Barbara, Napa, Santa Cruz, etc. The isolation and distance "from everything else" is a downer, but it could be worse. Try telling that to our boy Kona. Now that's isolation.

Check out Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach.

Fort Lauderdale single handedlly bloodies San Diego.

And Palm Beach decapitates Beverly Hills.

Given all the love G Manifesto throws to Miami it's not a surprise this thread turned to SOBE vs RIO real fast. I've said many times on RVF South Beach in the winter is fucking amazing.

But are you drunk? Did you go to the gym today and get hit in the head a few too many times? Ft Lauderdale over San Diego? Palm Beach over Beverly Hills? Hell no fucking way am I co-signing that nonsense.

Easy.

More girls than guys in Fort Lauderdale.

More guys than girls in San Diego.

Girls in mostly high heels and skirts in Fort Lauderdale.

Girls in flip flops and Ugg boots and jeans in San Diego.

5am last call in Fort Lauderdale.

1:30am last call in San Diego.

Direct 2:30 hour flights to Colombia from Fort Lauderdale.

20 hour flights to Colombia from San Diego.

0% State tax in Fort Lauderdale.

10% State tax in San Diego.

Shall I continue?

Have you lived in both?

How many years?

(01-24-2013 04:18 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

Are you going to compare FT lauderdale with San Diego? are you serious?
I mean really, comparing florida to california is just nonsense, you cant beat what the 12th biggest economy in the world can offer in terms of variety and opportunities with just beaches and nightlife...

What are these "varieties" you speak of?

How many years have you lived in both?

I can tell by the way you write, you have never lived in California.

Have you even been there? For a week?

If you guys want to continue this discussion, we can do so over here:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-9545.html

I don't want to derail Hen's thread on Rio.

[Scarecr0w]

(01-24-2013 04:31 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Moving the discussion from http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-19910-...#pid355315

(01-24-2013 04:27 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 04:18 PM)kenny_powers Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:59 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-24-2013 02:56 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

But the thing is, South Beach is the ONLY thing going on in the ENTIRE state of Florida. I mean nobody here is talking about setting up base in Tallahassee, Orlando or Jacksonville. Socal has 3 major cities worth visiting in their own right and Vegas is right in our backyard. Plus a lot of smaller but cool towns like Santa Barbara, Napa, Santa Cruz, etc. The isolation and distance "from everything else" is a downer, but it could be worse. Try telling that to our boy Kona. Now that's isolation.

Check out Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach.

Fort Lauderdale single handedlly bloodies San Diego.

And Palm Beach decapitates Beverly Hills.

Given all the love G Manifesto throws to Miami it's not a surprise this thread turned to SOBE vs RIO real fast. I've said many times on RVF South Beach in the winter is fucking amazing.

But are you drunk? Did you go to the gym today and get hit in the head a few too many times? Ft Lauderdale over San Diego? Palm Beach over Beverly Hills? Hell no fucking way am I co-signing that nonsense.

Easy.

More girls than guys in Fort Lauderdale.

More guys than girls in San Diego.

Girls in mostly high heels and skirts in Fort Lauderdale.

Girls in flip flops and Ugg boots and jeans in San Diego.

5am last call in Fort Lauderdale.

1:30am last call in San Diego.

Direct 2:30 hour flights to Colombia from Fort Lauderdale.

20 hour flights to Colombia from San Diego.

0% State tax in Fort Lauderdale.

10% State tax in San Diego.

Shall I continue?

Have you lived in both?

How many years?

(01-24-2013 04:18 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

Are you going to compare FT lauderdale with San Diego? are you serious?
I mean really, comparing florida to california is just nonsense, you cant beat what the 12th biggest economy in the world can offer in terms of variety and opportunities with just beaches and nightlife...

What are these "varieties" you speak of?

How many years have you lived in both?

I can tell by the way you write, you have never lived in California.

Have you even been there? For a week?

If you guys want to continue this discussion, we can do so over here:

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-9545.html

I don't want to derail Hen's thread on Rio.

I have been to both places AS A TOURIST. And as the vast majority of tourists will tell you that have been to both places, California BLOWS OUT OF THE WATER florida ANYTIME OF THE DAY

Heck , there is even a phrase in south america for miami:

"Miami es linda porque se parece a una ciudad de USA"

If you dont know spanish i can translate it for you:
Miami is nice because it seems like an american city"

nuff said...

[thegmanifesto]

(01-24-2013 04:41 PM)Scarecr0w Wrote:  

I have been to both places AS A TOURIST.

I could have read that from a mile away.

So you don't offer any concrete points or even a single example to make your case.

I could have read that from a mile away too.

Case closed.

--

I am more than happy to intelligently debate the merits of South Beach VS any city in Southern California (or neighborhood), but you have to at least make some (or one?) concrete points in the favor of your argument.

Hell, I could make case for Southern California over South Beach better than anything I have seen so far.

[jariel]

It's become apparent to me that for years I've been going to the wrong Ft. Lauderdale, so please, oh please, will someone please take me to the Ft. Lauderdale they go to?

I mean, in terms of Latin women, the numbers go down considerably once you get outside of Dade County, so you're left with mostly average looking white American girls with non-typical white girl bodies, and because the white men in Broward are mostly gay, all the Caribbean black dudes have scooped them up.

The "incredible" Ft. Lauderdale that I've seen others speak of on here is just one I've missed, although if you're Black, it's pretty easy to score with the girls.

Anyone who wants to challenge the high number of interracial couples one sees on any typical night out in Hollywood's Young Circle, Ft. Lauderdale's Riverwalk, etc. is someone who I don't honestly believe has been anywhere near the spot.

[Menace]

Don't really have a dog in this fight, but you can't really be comparing a state vs. another state, it's got to be the city. Hell I live close to NYC but I don't go there but maybe once a year. For many people (not all) something has to be within 30 minutes drive or it might as well not even be there.

What's the big deal about San Diego, aside from mild weather? LA is special because of the movie industry. I'd pick Ft. L any day, but then again, I'm not really West Coast...never have been. Also, I'm not a mountains guy and I love the water and ocean, but like G says, are you really a climber that's gonna be out there all the time? Nobody has mentioned Weeki Wachee either...ain't nothin like that in California!

[kenny_powers]

(01-24-2013 04:49 PM)jariel Wrote:  

It's become apparent to me that for years I've been going to the wrong Ft. Lauderdale, so please, oh please, will someone please take me to the Ft. Lauderdale they go to?

I mean, in terms of Latin women, the numbers go down considerably once you get outside of Dade County, so you're left with mostly average looking white American girls with non-typical white girl bodies, and because the white men in Broward are mostly gay, all the Caribbean black dudes have scooped them up.

The "incredible" Ft. Lauderdale that I've seen others speak of on here is just one I've missed, although if you're Black, it's pretty easy to score with the girls.

Anyone who wants to challenge the high number of interracial couples one sees on any typical night out in Hollywood's Young Circle, Ft. Lauderdale's Riverwalk, etc. is someone who I don't honestly believe has been anywhere near the spot.

Ft Lauderdale is lame. It's a one horse town with a few decent places. It is mostly rainbow flag people and toursits jumping on cruise ships. After I sold my condo on Miami beach I got a condo on las Olas for 12 months. My 11th floor office window looked out on YOLO. Nothing to brag about.