Steve Nash reportedly wrapped up in strange custody battle with ex

http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/m...e/12351934

According to TMZ, Nash is “waging a legal war” in an attempt to prevent his ex-wife, Alejandra, from moving the former couple’s three children from Arizona to L.A. It is believed that a gag order is in place that prevents anyone from talking about the case, but TMZ also noted that Nash would have to pay significantly more in child support if his children live in California than he would with them living in Arizona.

“I can’t comment on the information you attribute to sources connected with TMZ,” well-known divorce lawyer Lance Spiegel, who was recently hired by Alejandra, said. “I confirm that I have been retained by Alejandra, that I cannot comment because of the reasons described and that Alejandra is not available for comment.”

The article paints Nash as being somehow cheap for not wanting his ex to move the kids to LA, where he now plays. Why not question the ex's motives for moving the kids from the place where they grew up? Is she doing it to make it easier for him to see his kids, or is she doing it because she'll get more money? Maybe Nash legitimately thinks it's better for the kids to stay in the same schools, and not have to make new friends in a new city...

slubu

here is a song i think you will like a lot after this experience






Well there’s a little bit of whore
In every, every girl.

Well there’s a little bit of whore
In every, every girl.

Well you talk about Jackie
You talk about Jackie-o
How she goes down
Lower than anyone else you’ve met.

Well there’s a little bit of whore
In every little girl.

Well there’s a little bit of whore
In every, every girl.

Well Caroline, she’s so fine
I wish she was mine
But our paths they’ll never cross,
Too bad.

Well there’s a little bit of whore
In every, little girl.


Well there’s a little bit of whore
In every, every girl.

Well you think that
You would care
Well I think that
Your so square.
I think I better
Get the fuck outta here.

Quote: (12-03-2012 12:07 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

Harrowing story.Could you go more into exactly how they put that, how it came up, etc.?

Yes, I was banging one of the chicks. We met up at a bar in a small group. We talked about my poor sad sack friend's inability to bang this other girl. The slutty girl was an outsider - these girls met her in the city and she did not go to the same high school like the rest of them. The way they disclosed it was incredibly casual and matter of fact - sort of in a "how does she have the energy" type of way.

Update: For anyone who cares. Blew her off for almost a week, she texted and called me a few times and I was not really interested in meeting her up. I adopted the mindset that if it's convenient for me I'll go see her and if not so be it. Yesterday I was by her area around lunchtime so I just sent a text asking if she was around and she invited me to come over. Went over, banged a few times, she made food watched a movie and I left to go home and get ready to go out for the night.

She kept asking why I was leaving so early, asking if I had a date. I told her what difference does it make, and she went on this whole ramble about how she would hope I'm not dating anyone else, that she hasn't dated anyone else in the past month and a half, etc. So I asked her if she's saying she hasn't had sex with anyone else and she looked me in the eye and in the most calm and sweet voice said, "no I haven't slept with anyone since I started dating you. Quite the actress, I just started laughing which really sent her off. I even gave her an opportunity to come clean, saying we are not together and I don't mind if you sleep with others I just hate it when girls lie about it. Still kept to her story.

So whatever, I've readjusted my views of her and now actually don't mind seeing her with this mindset. Just as mentioned in this thread, as long as you know she's a slut - and assign value accordingly - you'll be fine with it.

To quote Solomon again (man this guy has some good shit out there), though I never was jealous this analysis of his is applicable:

Quote:Quote:

Men, we’re only jealous of things we value – things we consider to be rightfully ours. But in actuality, jealousy for us is nothing more than the realization that what we thought was ours really wasn’t.

I thought my #1 girl was mine, and I thought my favorite picture was mine, so I assigned value to it. When it became evident that neither was mine, I became jealous. I should have recognized that the jealousy I was experiencing was simply a wakeup call for me to stop overvaluing my #1 girl and the things I thought were special between us.

...you only have two other options. The first is to crawl up on that relationship cross and forgive her, and the second is to reassign her value to an appropriate level. Guess which one I recommend…

I’ve lowered her value in my mind and no longer expect the truth from her on anything of a private matter, and I no longer consider the things we share to be simply between the two of us. Thanks to jealousy, I realized that I couldn’t have any sort of relationship with her outside of a physical one if it required trust of any kind.

Jealousy is nature’s way of letting a man know that he has assigned too high of a value to a particular person or event. If you’re living with jealousy over a girlfriend or an ex, you have placed her in a category higher than she deserves.

Protect that which is yours, but never be jealous of that which can be given away by someone else.

But wait..there's more. One of the threesomes she was in was with 2 guys and her. That really turned me off, and I was close to telling her she should never admit that again to a guy she's interested in. But I rather let her dig her own grave. Funny enough she goes "but I've never done anal!"



Good lesson in game and girls in general and I'm quite happy this happened - at least I'll never overvalue a girl again. On a final note, apparently she's been through this before, because she told me that she hates it when a guy starts out very interested, then it shifts into a situation where he contacts her to only come over for sex, then it ends. She asked me not to do that to her. Of course, I will do exactly that to her.

Quote: (12-07-2012 12:03 PM)slubu Wrote:  

"but I've never done anal!"

One guess what the forum is going to advise you do next...

Make sure you wrap up tight

Damn slubu, I've seen my share of but that is a SERIOUS case of


(I feel like we need a new emote .gif of like a super hamster in cases of extreme hamster-dom)

Great quoted text from Solomon, that is exactly right on.

As modern men, I think we should acknowledge the only thing we really HAVE is ourselves. As long as nothing shakes our core or affects us in any real way, there's no reason to be jealous of anything.

It's highly disappointing that the opposite gender can't seem to live up to any expectations whatsoever, let alone ideals, but so be it. Let them lie in their bed of lies and deception.

I wish I was evolved as Giovonny. I would be a lot happier.

I haven't read the whole thread but something I always remind myself about people in general is that, just because someone displays a certain characteristic like being generous, doesn't mean the exact opposite characteristic isn't present as well. In fact, often people display certain things in the hope of covering up their true nature.

Quote: (12-07-2012 12:03 PM)slubu Wrote:  

Quite the actress, I just started laughing which really sent her off.

Don't make her feel like a slut. She doesn't want anyone to know she is a slut. Play along with that fantasy. Don't let her know that you have de-valued her. If you consciously make her feel like a worthless slut, she might resent it and lose attraction to you.

It's not about being real and honest and getting her to admit anything, its about getting what you want from her which is on demand, no strings attached sex at your convenience. Confronting her about her lies might not be the best strategy for this.

Better to play along with her fantasy and allow her to be comfortable around you.

SLUTS ARE FREE TO OPERATE IN A NON JUDGMENTAL ENVIRONMENT. WHEN THEY KNOW THEY ARE BEING MORALLY JUDGED, THEY OFTEN CUT OFF SEX TO PUNISH THOSE JUDGING THEM.

When you get her a little tipsy, a little horny, and behind closed doors - treat her like a farm animal. That is when she is free and safe to release all her slutty inhibitions!

Ever heard the old expression..

"Treat the queens like whores and the whores like queens.

Also, how do you know she is banging other guys? I looked in your original post and found this...

Quote: (11-29-2012 02:55 PM)slubu Wrote:  

I do some text snooping and basically find out that she is currently banging three other guys besides me.

What exactly did the texts say?

Are you sure she is banging other guys or is she just flirting with other guys and/or feeding her orbitors???

She probably is banging other guys but I don't want to operate under assumptions. Do you know for sure???

Quote: (12-07-2012 02:07 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I wish I was evolved as Giovonny. I would be a lot happier.

Ha. Be careful what you wish for!

I'm not evolved, I'm just realistic. Girls have been sexual since the beginning of time. Why should this cause me any stress? If I get stressed over it, who suffers?

I suffer. The sluts will go on doing their thing and I will get gray hair from being stressed out and worried about some whore!?! Not worth it to me. If I get gray hair it becomes harder for me to bang 18 year olds!

And, I sort of like sluts, they are more interesting and more fun then some boring, prude chick.

Quote: (12-07-2012 02:07 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

people in general is that, just because someone displays a certain characteristic like being generous, doesn't mean the exact opposite characteristic isn't present as well.

Very true and great point.

We've all known sluts, scoundrels, drunks, thieves, and killers who in their heart were actually kind, loving people.

And, on the other hand, we've known people who appeared to be friendly, respectable people but were actually cold blooded predators.

We think we know people but we often only know half the story.

"Better to play along with her fantasy and allow her to be comfortable around you."

This applies to business as well, get what you want. A fool tries to convince someone else. Get what you want and get out.

Quote: (12-07-2012 02:38 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Don't make her feel like a slut. She doesn't want anyone to know she is a slut. Play along with that fantasy. Don't let her know that you have de-valued her. If you consciously make her feel like a worthless slut, she might resent it and lose attraction to you.

For the most part I am operating like normal. But I couldn't help myself from chuckling a bit. She is none the wiser overall. Even if she is I really don't care.

Quote: (12-07-2012 02:38 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

It's not about being real and honest and getting her to admit anything, its about getting what you want from her which is on demand, no strings attached sex at your convenience. Confronting her about her lies might not be the best strategy for this.

When you get her a little tipsy, a little horny, and behind closed doors - treat her like a farm animal. That is when she is free and safe to release all her slutty inhibitions!

Nah I won't confront her on her lies. Like I mentioned I've accepted her for who she is.

Quote: (12-07-2012 02:38 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Also, how do you know she is banging other guys?

What exactly did the texts say?

Are you sure she is banging other guys or is she just flirting with other guys and/or feeding her orbitors???

She probably is banging other guys but I don't want to operate under assumptions. Do you know for sure???

Yes I know for sure. The texts were explicit. As in "I can't believe you made me cum twice." or "did you bring condoms" to the guy on the way over, or "when are we going to fuck again", or "just got home, thanks for letting me sleep over" to another dude she was fucking, etc. Not assumptions, there is no missing logical link between her texts and what happened, it is there in plain text.

I wouldn't react like this based on suspicion. In fact, I had this suspicion before finding this out (albeit not to the 4 cock extent) and was fine with it. Once finding out I was disgusted/shocked but just had to readjust my thoughts on her and now I'm fine again.

Slubu,

I don't know about you but sometimes I get into a bridge burning type of mood. I'd fuck the hell out of her and then tell her something along the lines of "I forgive you for being a lying whore, but I've decided to cut you off because I don't enjoy you anymore."

I have a mean streak I don't like sometimes.

Gio,

I hear you but let's not forget, she's lying to him, being deceptive in general, and I find that to be unacceptable. Is the pussy that good? He has to make the call. Personally I get some satisfaction out of being able to walk away without a second thought.

But yes, I'm going to try and adopt your outlook.

Quote: (12-07-2012 03:09 PM)slubu Wrote:  

I really don't care.

I've accepted her for who she is.

readjust my thoughts on her and now I'm fine.

I think you will be much happier with this new red pill perspective!

Quote: (12-07-2012 03:20 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

"I forgive you for being a lying whore, but I've decided to cut you off because I don't enjoy you anymore."

Ha. Thats fun too sometimes!

Try to get a threesome and some homemade porn on video before you do this! (if you're into that)

Also, try to get her to pay for all dates from now on!

And, never travel to her, make her come to you.

Maximum results + minumum effort = happy player!

Quote: (12-07-2012 03:30 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Personally I get some satisfaction out of being able to walk away without a second thought.

Walking away is fun and powerful sometimes.

Each player has to make the call based on his own personal constitution. I usually don't walk away until I have accomplished everything I want to with a girl.

However, if a man is disgusted, he has no choice but to walk away.

Every man has to set his own standard and live with it.

Fisto,

This thread has me thinking about your girls in the DR. How long will it be until they bang another guy? Before you, when was the last time they banged a guy? A month? A week? A year? Are they still thinking about you or have they moved on to the next gringo?

Not trying to make you upset, I'm just posing these questions as we talk about girls and sluts..

any thoughts?

Slubu - El Mech mentioned in the thread sluts will follow guys for life (paraphrased).

Since this is your first true confirmed dirty ass slut and you have taken the red pill here is my advice:

Just be cool. Don't judge, don't call her out, but go ahead and drift away. Why? One word - Harem. Who knows bro, this time next year you may be in a dry spell, you might see her at the mall. She will remember that you were cool and guess what? She will be gobbling your cock later that night.

Trust me, I am on the prowl non stop and always adding notches, but I've know girls for years that just pop back into my life every once in a while. Build that black book. You're a player now Slubu.

Quote: (12-07-2012 03:36 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (12-07-2012 03:30 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Personally I get some satisfaction out of being able to walk away without a second thought.

Walking away is fun and powerful sometimes.

Each player has to make the call based on his own personal constitution. I usually don't walk away until I have accomplished everything I want to with a girl.

However, if a man is disgusted, he has no choice but to walk away.

Every man has to set his own standard and live with it.

Fisto,

This thread has me thinking about your girls in the DR. How long will it be until they bang another guy? Before you, when was the last time they banged a guy? A month? A week? A year? Are they still thinking about you or have they moved on to the next gringo?

Not trying to make you upset, I'm just posing these questions as we talk about girls and sluts..

any thoughts?

I've thought about that myself. It seems like part human nature is about constantly "moving on". People's deaths, past loves, tragedies of some kind, life goes on.

One girl swears she'll wait forever, another said the same thing but has suddenly stopped messaging me.

I have no attachment now as I did days after leaving (life goes on) so it's a good thing to look at.

I can say I enjoyed their company while I had it, I appreciate that for what it's worth.

I went out last night and saw The Shins and Passion Pit at the joint inside Hard Rock so I'm a little hungover, but what I've noticed about relationships is that love is never given or returned equally, I think it's smarter and better for you in the long run to love less than the other person. This allows you to have a clearer head but still enjoy the other person without the heartache.

Quote: (11-29-2012 04:04 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

For most of history, in many parts of the world, man has tried to make the womens vagina sacred. We worship the virgin, we protect the vagina with chastity belts, we make women cover up there faces and body so they don't distract men.

Are we still living in the fucking stone ages!!!

Indeed

Quote: (12-07-2012 03:30 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I think it's smarter and better for you in the long run to love less than the other person. This allows you to have a clearer head but still enjoy the other person without the heartache.

I don't know about that, Fisto. I get your sentiment loud and clear, but I don't think (even if some claim) that's it's every players mission to be a gamer for life. By intentionally limiting the way you feel about another person you could be missing out on something great. Now, there's no fucking way I'm getting or planning to get married anytime soon, but my point stands. My mindset is if I take the bait and get hurt, then so be it. It won't be the first time and it won't be the last time. I'll dust myself off and move on. And I won't be writing any crybaby e-mails (sorry McQueens'sPlayboyRules), either. Maybe I'm a sick fuck but I rather enjoy the emotional intensity/excitement that fucking a new girl can lead to. Especially if she's chill and genuinely into me. In conclusion I say don't limit yourself or your feelings, but be ready to pick up the pieces when it all falls apart. It's been my experience that it usually does.

Quote: (12-07-2012 04:19 PM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

Quote: (12-07-2012 03:30 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I think it's smarter and better for you in the long run to love less than the other person. This allows you to have a clearer head but still enjoy the other person without the heartache.

I don't know about that, Fisto. I get your sentiment loud and clear, but I don't think (even if some claim) that's it's every players mission to be a gamer for life. By intentionally limiting the way you feel about another person you could be missing out on something great. Now, there's no fucking way I'm getting or planning to get married anytime soon, but my point stands. My mindset is if I take the bait and get hurt, then so be it. It won't be the first time and it won't be the last time. I'll dust myself off and move on. And I won't be writing any crybaby e-mails (sorry McQueens'sPlayboyRules), either. Maybe I'm a sick fuck but I rather enjoy the emotional intensity/excitement that fucking a new girl can lead to. Especially if she's chill and genuinely into me. In conclusion I say don't limit yourself or your feelings, but be ready to pick up the pieces when it all falls apart. It's been my experience that it usually does.

I'm sure I'll eventually sway that way but I'm still a little raw myself after an LTR.

It was great and terrible, I don't want to feel like that ever again though.

Yes, you need to be open to falling in love. Not in the average chump way of "falling in love" with every somewhat attractive woman that gives him attention (aka neediness). I'm talking about the way where you have abundance, meet a genuinely cool woman who you're really compatible with, and feel a strong desire to contribute as much as possible to her life.

Love is great, but you cannot have love without abundance.

Off topic but Don Juan up there has posted some hairy virgins.

I'm 100% with Gio on this.

You know how most of us grew up in the world wishing we could be a part of "the action"? Having wild threesomes, sex with kinky freaky girls that let us do whatever we want to them? Well, we should all be mature enough to understand that those sexual exploits typically don't happen with nice, reserved girls. I mean they might be on the outside, but you know what I mean.

The harsh reality is, if you do find a girl like that, you find a girl that likes getting handcuffed, assfucked, facialized, chances are she's TOTALLY fucked up in the head and has had way too many cocks inside of her. She might portray herself otherwise, and as Gio mentioned NO girl likes being called out as a slut. She could be giving handjobs down on skid row in exchange for food stamps. She might have done porn for 2 years and specialized in blacks-on-blondes gangbangs. She might have gotten passed around the entire football team AND baseball team in high school. None of those chicks are going to identify themselves as a slut. Here's how girls think:

"What I did was slutty, but I'm not a slut."

The point is, if you find a girl like that, TAKE ADVANTAGE. In fact, that lesson applies to life. Whatever you're doing, whatever the situation, take advantage of it. Nice guys finish last.

Quote: (12-07-2012 03:36 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (12-07-2012 03:30 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

Personally I get some satisfaction out of being able to walk away without a second thought.

Walking away is fun and powerful sometimes.

Each player has to make the call based on his own personal constitution. I usually don't walk away until I have accomplished everything I want to with a girl.

However, if a man is disgusted, he has no choice but to walk away.

Every man has to set his own standard and live with it.

Fisto,

This thread has me thinking about your girls in the DR. How long will it be until they bang another guy? Before you, when was the last time they banged a guy? A month? A week? A year? Are they still thinking about you or have they moved on to the next gringo?

Not trying to make you upset, I'm just posing these questions as we talk about girls and sluts..

any thoughts?

Well if you're in the Cabana with one and she knows how to turn the volume up on the 1950s speaker in the room that blasts spanish music you'll have your answer. Also those places litter the countryside like we have Mcdonalds here.

Back to slutz.....
Like I said many times here when you guys get older not only will you know exactly what the girl is up to you come to a point where you don't care and just designate her whatever position you think she can fill in your life..

As for me....
I have an actual girlfriend now so that makes me a relationship expert. No googling, no cell seizures. Nothing. I don't know much about her and I'm fine with it.