[Duke Castile]

You Greek fool you.

[OGNorCal707]

(12-07-2012 04:36 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

I'm 100% with Gio on this.

You know how most of us grew up in the world wishing we could be a part of "the action"? Having wild threesomes, sex with kinky freaky girls that let us do whatever we want to them? Well, we should all be mature enough to understand that those sexual exploits typically don't happen with nice, reserved girls. I mean they might be on the outside, but you know what I mean.

The harsh reality is, if you do find a girl like that, you find a girl that likes getting handcuffed, assfucked, facialized, chances are she's TOTALLY fucked up in the head and has had way too many cocks inside of her. She might portray herself otherwise, and as Gio mentioned NO girl likes being called out as a slut. She could be giving handjobs down on skid row in exchange for food stamps. She might have done porn for 2 years and specialized in blacks-on-blondes gangbangs. She might have gotten passed around the entire football team AND baseball team in high school. None of those chicks are going to identify themselves as a slut. Here's how girls think:

"What I did was slutty, but I'm not a slut."

The point is, if you find a girl like that, TAKE ADVANTAGE. In fact, that lesson applies to life. Whatever you're doing, whatever the situation, take advantage of it. Nice guys finish last.

[Giovonny]

(12-07-2012 01:24 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

It's highly disappointing that the opposite gender can't seem to live up to any expectations

I respectfully disagree. Women almost always live up to my expectations!

I expect them to be sluts. They rarely disappointing me!

(12-07-2012 04:36 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

we should all be mature enough to understand that those sexual exploits typically don't happen with nice, reserved girls.

Great point.

Without sluts, no one could get an SNL.

Without sluts, no threesomes would happen.

Without sluts, no one could get laid on vacation.

Without sluts, we would all be jerking off every night!

Without sluts, there would be no porn!

Without sluts, the bars and clubs would be empty!

Without sluts, it would be even harder for us, because all the girls would be saving their virginity for love and marriage!

Without sluts, there would be no RVF!

Just like girls don't wanna admit that they are sluts, guys don't wanna admit that they bang sluts!

Don't be a slut hater, we need more sluts, not less!

Encourage girls to explore their sexuality, not repress it!

[Giovonny]

(12-07-2012 04:19 PM)CMan0928 Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 03:30 PM)Fisto Wrote:  

I think it's smarter and better for you in the long run to love less than the other person. This allows you to have a clearer head but still enjoy the other person without the heartache.

I don't know about that, Fisto.

I say don't limit yourself or your feelings

(12-07-2012 04:29 PM)caligula89 Wrote:  

Yes, you need to be open to falling in love.

Should a player be open to falling in love?

I say yes, if he wants love.

But, no, if he doesn't.

Most likely, its gonna happen sooner or later anyways.

[caligula89]

I don't get this obsession about "sluts." Guess what guys: every woman has a part of her that's really slutty. Some only show that part of them to their boyfriends of 10 years, others show it to random dudes at the bar. One isn't better than the other.

Whether a pussy is hammered 100 times by 1 guy or 10 times by 10 guys, it makes no difference.

Learn how to be the fucking man in bed and you won't have to worry about your girl cheating on you, no matter how many guys she's been with.

[bacan]

(12-07-2012 04:36 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

I'm 100% with Gio on this.

You know how most of us grew up in the world wishing we could be a part of "the action"? Having wild threesomes, sex with kinky freaky girls that let us do whatever we want to them? Well, we should all be mature enough to understand that those sexual exploits typically don't happen with nice, reserved girls. I mean they might be on the outside, but you know what I mean.

The harsh reality is, if you do find a girl like that, you find a girl that likes getting handcuffed, assfucked, facialized, chances are she's TOTALLY fucked up in the head and has had way too many cocks inside of her.

I know girls that have been into crazy stuff with boyfriends that are not sluts and haven't had way too many cocks inside them.

I think this thread leans towards making you guys TOO jaded about girls..

You really want to think that you can never trust a girl in life if she is into some kinky sex? If she waits a couple months then finally lets you fuck in her the ass because you're her boyfriend?

I mean if girls are begging for you to cum on their face the first date, ok, that's weird, but if you eventually get her to give in to some kinky stuff after a while it doesn't mean a girl has had way too many cocks.

Anyway I keep coming back to this thread because I am fine having the attitude of who cares who else she is fucking, because I'm fucking other people too for 99% of girls.

But for some girls I do want to feel like I actually know them, and that includes knowing how easily some guy could make her cheat on me or sleep with him if she were a little pissed at me, a little drunk, whatever.. If I know her history or not.. Who knows

[Veloce]

(12-16-2012 03:03 AM)bacan Wrote:  

(12-07-2012 04:36 PM)thedude3737 Wrote:  

I'm 100% with Gio on this.

You know how most of us grew up in the world wishing we could be a part of "the action"? Having wild threesomes, sex with kinky freaky girls that let us do whatever we want to them? Well, we should all be mature enough to understand that those sexual exploits typically don't happen with nice, reserved girls. I mean they might be on the outside, but you know what I mean.

The harsh reality is, if you do find a girl like that, you find a girl that likes getting handcuffed, assfucked, facialized, chances are she's TOTALLY fucked up in the head and has had way too many cocks inside of her.

I know girls that have been into crazy stuff with boyfriends that are not sluts and haven't had way too many cocks inside them.

I think this thread leans towards making you guys TOO jaded about girls..

You really want to think that you can never trust a girl in life if she is into some kinky sex? If she waits a couple months then finally lets you fuck in her the ass because you're her boyfriend?

I mean if girls are begging for you to cum on their face the first date, ok, that's weird, but if you eventually get her to give in to some kinky stuff after a while it doesn't mean a girl has had way too many cocks.

Anyway I keep coming back to this thread because I am fine having the attitude of who cares who else she is fucking, because I'm fucking other people too for 99% of girls.

But for some girls I do want to feel like I actually know them, and that includes knowing how easily some guy could make her cheat on me or sleep with him if she were a little pissed at me, a little drunk, whatever.. If I know her history or not.. Who knows

I will concede that a girl's freakiness does not necessarily indicate her sluttiness. I was with one girl that was totally vanilla but later found out she'd fucked like 50 guys before (this was when we were both 23)

But your last paragraph about "I want to feel like I actually know them"...be careful. I've been in that headspace far too many times and been deceived. Women will do what's convenient to them to get the attention they need. They will rationalize their lies and dishonesty with "being true to themselves".

[Grit]

I can see how the OP has become disillusioned with today's girls. I agree that most of them are sluts today. Contraception is so widespread that chicks at reproductive prime have zero interest in reproducing. A paradox don't you think? Their body tells them, since they aren't popping out kids left and right, that this dude is not fit for reproduction. Hence why they look for the next biggest package and why they regret it eventually.

Even as a man, don't you find it strange that you are sexually attracted to the very qualities of maternity? The qualities that indicate she can nurture healthy children?

PS Here is a simple question I would like you to think HARD about.

If there was no birth control, what percent of kids are born from 'happy accidents'? Be realistic.

I'll guess like 70%. 70% born inconveniently, 30% planned. Face it: our biology drives us to accept inconvenient truths, all in the name of the next generation.

TL;DR : Women are sluts because of birth control. Players are players because of birth control. Without birth control, the dynamic changes. I don't believe we are happier off having birth control.

[Samseau]

(12-16-2012 05:42 PM)Grit Wrote:  

I can see how the OP has become disillusioned with today's girls. I agree that most of them are sluts today. Contraception is so widespread that chicks at reproductive prime have zero interest in reproducing. A paradox don't you think? Their body tells them, since they aren't popping out kids left and right, that this dude is not fit for reproduction. Hence why they look for the next biggest package and why they regret it eventually.

Even as a man, don't you find it strange that you are sexually attracted to the very qualities of maternity? The qualities that indicate she can nurture healthy children?

PS Here is a simple question I would like you to think HARD about.

If there was no birth control, what percent of kids are born from 'happy accidents'? Be realistic.

I'll guess like 70%. 70% born inconveniently, 30% planned. Face it: our biology drives us to accept inconvenient truths, all in the name of the next generation.

TL;DR : Women are sluts because of birth control. Players are players because of birth control. Without birth control, the dynamic changes. I don't believe we are happier off having birth control.

I mostly agree. But back in the old days, if you knocked up a girl (and it happened all the time) then there would be a "shotgun wedding" and where the man would be insanely pressured to get married with that woman and raise a family together.

At least women today get mad child support.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I understand Gio's point and even hope that I'll reach that point someday, but for now I find it impossible to celebrate sluttiness. I'll bang a lot of sluts because I enjoy sex and would rather have some sex with sluts than no sex at all (the default alternative if you have no game), but you can't force me to like them.

Once upon a time, I just wanted to find a nice girl, fall in love, get married and have a family. Not only did sluts destroy that, they also lied to me over and over, claiming that nothing had changed. Lying about it is a thousand times worse than just destroying the dream. I could have lived with just the latter if they had been honest about it.

So fuck sluts (literally). But don't stop judging them. They don't deserve it.

[slubu]

One poster above mentioned what the difference is between a girl who fucks 1 guy 100x versus a girl that fucks 10 guys 10x. There is a huge difference for a multitude of reasons; and I know it's lazy to just make a conclusory statement like that and not back it up, but I'm tired and have a bunch of work to do. To quote How I Met Your Mother:

Quote:

Marshall: I crunched the numbers. If Lily and I have sex twice a week—which let's face it, all know is being conservative—and we've been together ten years, plus seventeen more times on the honeymoon, minus a two-week break when I said the check-out girl at the supermarket reminded me of a young Lily, then we've had sex 1,053 and a half times! (Barney and Ted look confused) That's more times than Barney's ever had sex and to your point Ted, Lily is a quality girl. I win! Lawyered.
Barney: Doesn't count.
Marshall: It has to!
Ted: It does. It counts as one time. You've had sex once. How was it?

Nonetheless to bring closure to this slut in particular, saw her a few more times, banged it out and now I'm done with her.

[Giovonny]

(12-17-2012 03:17 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

I understand Gio's point and even hope that I'll reach that point someday, but for now I find it impossible to celebrate sluttiness.

I'm not celebrating sluttiness. I'm accepting reality for what it is. I'm accepting women for what they are (sexual) and not trying to make them into something that they are not (sacred creatures)

You say you don't like sluts but yet you pursue them. If you really didn't like sluts you would be at church looking for a girl instead of on this forum.

We are taught that Jesus was born of a virgin, we are taught that women should value and protect their vagina, we are taught that women should remain pure.

This is all bullshit. A womens vagina is no more important then my cock!

Imagine a world where all girls waited until marriage to have sex and they all only banged one guy their whole life. A world without sluts! Would this make you happy? No sex from bars, no sex from clubs, no one night stands, no pre marital sex! No kinky sex!

Is this what you want? A world without sluts?

(12-17-2012 02:52 PM)slubu Wrote:  

Nonetheless to bring closure to this slut in particular, saw her a few more times, banged it out and now I'm done with her.

And now, she moves on to one of her other guys and you move on to the next girl.

And so, the game goes on!

The next guy will know nothing of her past and your next girl will know nothing of your past. Kind of scary actually, we really don't know anything about the people we deal with.

[TheMan]

(12-17-2012 03:13 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-17-2012 03:17 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

I understand Gio's point and even hope that I'll reach that point someday, but for now I find it impossible to celebrate sluttiness.

I'm not celebrating sluttiness. I'm accepting reality for what it is. I'm accepting women for what they are (sexual) and not trying to make them into something that they are not (sacred creatures)

You say you don't like sluts but yet you pursue them. If you really didn't like sluts you would be at church looking for a girl instead of on this forum.

We are taught that Jesus was born of a virgin, we are taught that women should value and protect their vagina, we are taught that women should remain pure.

This is all bullshit. A womens vagina is no more important then my cock!

Imagine a world where all girls waited until marriage to have sex and they all only banged one guy their whole life. A world without sluts! Would this make you happy? No sex from bars, no sex from clubs, no one night stands, no pre marital sex! No kinky sex!

Is this what you want? A world without sluts?

(12-17-2012 02:52 PM)slubu Wrote:  

Nonetheless to bring closure to this slut in particular, saw her a few more times, banged it out and now I'm done with her.

And now, she moves on to one of her other guys and you move on to the next girl.

And so, the game goes on!

The next guy will know nothing of her past and your next girl will know nothing of your past. Kind of scary actually, we really don't know anything about the people we deal with.

[TheMan]

dupe

[Eddie Winslow]

I've caught glimpses and called girls out on lies before, but I've never experienced a blatant surprise act of sluttiness until tonight. i just finished banging a chick again that I banged for the first time this weekend after a Tiesto concert. Right after I was done, she got up to pee, and I tapped her phone just to see what time it was. Unfortunately I got to see that "Adam Tiesto" was confirming a date for the next day at 8. Not quite as awful as the OP story, but still it me feel Can you at least let me bust my nut before you're on to the next one? Geez.

At the same time though, I have a date tomorrow too...

Makes you think.

[damngringo]

(12-18-2012 11:39 PM)americanbk Wrote:  

I've caught glimpses and called girls out on lies before, but I've never experienced a blatant surprise act of sluttiness until tonight. i just finished banging a chick again that I banged for the first time this weekend after a Tiesto concert. Right after I was done, she got up to pee, and I tapped her phone just to see what time it was. Unfortunately I got to see that "Adam Tiesto" was confirming a date for the next day at 8. Not quite as awful as the OP story, but still it me feel Can you at least let me bust my nut before you're on to the next one? Geez.

At the same time though, I have a date tomorrow too...

Makes you think.

In one post you have just answered the question of this topic.

[TheMan]

(12-19-2012 05:53 AM)damngringo Wrote:  

(12-18-2012 11:39 PM)americanbk Wrote:  

I've caught glimpses and called girls out on lies before, but I've never experienced a blatant surprise act of sluttiness until tonight. i just finished banging a chick again that I banged for the first time this weekend after a Tiesto concert. Right after I was done, she got up to pee, and I tapped her phone just to see what time it was. Unfortunately I got to see that "Adam Tiesto" was confirming a date for the next day at 8. Not quite as awful as the OP story, but still it me feel Can you at least let me bust my nut before you're on to the next one? Geez.

At the same time though, I have a date tomorrow too...

Makes you think.

In one post you have just answered the question of this topic.

...and the logical follow through for any forum member or lurker that still has a pair should be: "...and i will use this to my advantage"

[Benelli]

Slubu, sorry to hear about your experience (1st post). I have just gotten a similar reality check myself, http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-18789-...#pid330518 .

Like you write, I also have an ingrained dream about meeting a girl who can be "good" and trustworthy.

Although the majority of girls seem to fall into the slut camp, i know there are good ones out there - hell, there are good guys like us, too.

[Praetor]

Some of these girls are better players than we are! It doesn't help that the deck is stacked in their favor, but the more I read your posts and reflect on what I've gone through, the more I realize that there is no substitute in today's world for having tight game.

It's also mind-boggling what a minority we are compared to most guys out there.

[NYJ]

(12-19-2012 09:46 AM)Praetor Wrote:  

Some of these girls are better players than we are! It doesn't help that the deck is stacked in their favor, but the more I read your posts and reflect on what I've gone through, the more I realize that there is no substitute in today's world for having tight game.

It's also mind-boggling what a minority we are compared to most guys out there.

We are definitely a minority, but I don't think its mind boggling we are as such. MSM and the feminist agenda are truly powerful forces in keeping the status quo. The one thing they have going for them is also going to be the one thing that's eventually going to go against them, power in numbers.

As more men turn to game by the day eventually it won't be ignored or brushed off. In some way game is already breaching into the MSM. As Roosh said recently I also believer that 2013 will be the breakout year for it. It's amazing how just being novice at best at it, how you can see things that non game friends over look or just flat out deny.

[slubu]

(12-19-2012 09:26 AM)Benelli Wrote:  

Slubu, sorry to hear about your experience (1st post).

Nah don't be sorry, it was a good learning experience.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Quote:

You say you don't like sluts but yet you pursue them. If you really didn't like sluts you would be at church looking for a girl instead of on this forum.

I'd love to, but those girls don't exist nowadays - at least not in the western culture. And that isn't my fault. I'm just adapting.

Other than that, spot on.

[chochemonger1]

(11-29-2012 03:41 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

This girl is a slut so all girls in the world are sluts?? That logic seems a little funny to me?

(11-29-2012 02:55 PM)slubu Wrote:  

come to accept the sad but true nature of our chromosomal counterparts.

Women are sexual creatures! Why is this sad? To me, this is exciting! This is good news!

Imagine a world were women were prude and non sexual. THAT WOULD BE SAD!

Would you really be happier if women were more conservative?

(11-29-2012 02:55 PM)slubu Wrote:  

women are, sadly, who we thought they were.

I don't know. If we thought they were sexual, and we get confirmation that they are sexual, why would that makes us sad?

I think the issue is that we thought they were something else. Many of us thought that women were these special little creatures that only have sex with 2-3 guys their whole life!

If you thought that, you are naive. You have been programmed by mainstream media and feminist culture to believe something that isn't true.

Whats makes guys sad is not the fact that getting pussy is easier then they previously imagined. What makes guys sad is the fact that their entire worldview gets shattered, they beleive the world is a certain way and then they find out they were wrong.

This is a big shock to most guys. They get mad and want to lash out.

Blame your parents, teachers, and older mentors for not telling you the truth.

Welcome to the real world - Women are human beings just like us! They think about cock, they fantasize about sex, they get horny, they want to fuck. They want to have fun just like us.

This doesn't depress me. This excites me.

(11-29-2012 02:55 PM)slubu Wrote:  

- she's been in two threesomes before
- she sends me dirty text pics
- she's in art school
- she's told me I have cart blanche to do whatever I want to her in bed
- she drinks, does coke, is a party girl when she goes out
- masturbates in the passenger seat of my car while driving
- enjoys and is quite talented at giving head
- her friends are sluts
- questioned me numerous times if i'm banging other girls
- she has a small tattoo above her vag

How long have you known all of this? You knew she was a slut as soon as you saw that tattoo!!! Many signs here that you could have picked up on.

I don't see anything sad here. I see a 20yo college girl who moved out to LA from the midwest. She is having fun. She will eventually marry some guy and he will never know. I think this has been going on forever and it will go on forever.

Women are not any more special then us. We like to fuck, they like to fuck, that's reality.

If you are religious, blame the creator.

If you are an atheist, blame the culture.

If you are a scientist, blame evolution.

GIRLS ARE SLUTS! GO BANG THEM BEFORE YOU ARE OLD!

Giovonny I love sluts like most men do also. But I think it is too extreme now.

There is a scene in Saturday Night Fever where John Travolta tells a girl, who is in love with him, that she has to 2 choices in life: to be a good girl or a slut. And that every woman has to make this life decision early on. This was in the 70s, mind you, when most girls were not prudes.

So now in America, I would assume almost all girls are sluts. But it would be nice to know that maybe 25 percent werent and made that conscious choice....like in the 1970s. That way you could have the best of both worlds.

[DVY]

School of hard knocks. Experience teaches best. Slubu, I appreciate your good tempered humour at the situation, but you got off lucky. Think about if you were married or something w/kids. Brutal....

Honestly, this is why I love RVF. Intelligent minds in group discussion with real life experience to back it up.

Had a case recently of this...Just got back from Thailand.

13 girls in 20 days. These girls are some of the most sweet, feminine creatures I have yet had. Yet, one girl is a bargirl (they have mandatory quotas of at least 10-15 barfines aka "hooking fees you pay the bar"), another was a high end prostitute, one girl was a massage girl who gave happy endings, blah blah blah. I didnt pay for one, but.....

better attitudes and much sweeter demeanors than girls I was used to. Being pampered never felt so good. Folding your clothes, cleaning your room, fussing over your food, giving you a massage. Its almost as if they loved you...and you can see it their faces that they do enjoy taking care of men. But, dont be fooled that its not a game to get somewhere better in their life.

If you want to take a double-red pill and choke, swallow and gag. Then go to Thailand and spend some nights w/the semi-pros and pros. At the end of the day, you just realize these are people. PEOPLE!!!!

Giovonny is right, the world just is. Its grimy and unapologetic.

Everybody is just out to get some...some of money, alpha cock, hot porn, good cooked food, a nice existence, beautiful scenery. Life is about experience and desire.

The problem is that we glamour our desire up as something "noble".

In a way, humans are developed to propagate and fight our environment and to survive. When we live too well, we have "1st word problems" aka
PETA, feminist rights movement, enviromentalism, yada yada yada. The common theme is a problem that is unlikely to ever be solved because it goes against human nature.

I think real problems like builidng bridges, creating trade, law, finance, medicine, high-end design are all fields dominated by men. I would wager good money, if a cause has the support of greater than 60% women, its a bullshit cause.

[snoop]

(12-19-2012 05:56 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Quote:

You say you don't like sluts but yet you pursue them. If you really didn't like sluts you would be at church looking for a girl instead of on this forum.

I'd love to, but those girls don't exist nowadays - at least not in the western culture. And that isn't my fault. I'm just adapting.

Other than that, spot on.

Sure they do, just not where you are looking for them.