If there is one thing the US needs it's more Geography teachers. Wonder if Mitt will even be able to find Iran if he decides to attack it.

Quote: (10-23-2012 11:04 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

After last night's debate, I am guessing that tenderman is going to be voting Obama as well:

ManAbout, I don't recall you saying if you were American or not. From a previous post, I assume you are not American.

I think Obama should give you citizenship since you seem to really like the guy and have shown more interest in our presidential race than many Americans.

Quote: (10-23-2012 11:08 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Quote: (10-23-2012 11:04 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

After last night's debate, I am guessing that tenderman is going to be voting Obama as well:

ManAbout, I don't recall you saying if you were American or not. From a previous post, I assume you are not American.

American resident, with interests in the US. Canadian citizen.

It's sad that many of the comments here wouldn't look out of place if they were posted on manboobz.

Entertaining as it is, this forum isn't nearly as red pill as it fancies itself to be.

I'm not saying the Republicans are a great choice, far from it. But anybody who votes for the commissars of culture-rot we have around us today is still sound asleep.

Vote Republican, or vote a write-in candidate, or a joke vote, or don't vote at all... But Obama?

Really?

Quote: (10-23-2012 08:40 AM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

By the way, on the snarky response from Obama about how we don't use horses, take a look at this.

Special forces guys on horseback -- in Afghanistan.

Haha, now that's an awfully snarky comment from you. Fox News would be proud.

Obama never said "don't use horses". He said "use fewer". Which is absolutely correct.

Cavalry charges were already going out of fashion in World War I.

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You mentioned the Navy, for example, and that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916. Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets, because the nature of our military’s changed. We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines.

Quote: (10-23-2012 11:06 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

If there is one thing the US needs it's more Geography teachers. Wonder if Mitt will even be able to find Iran if he decides to attack it.

This is what happens when someone else scripts your debate for you. Romney is just a bobblehead reciting talking points on cue.

This was my favorite moment from last night.

Obama's condescending retort made me laugh.

Tenderman, What are your plans if Obama wins the election? I remember some celebs saying they were leaving the US last time.

Also are you serious about taking cash play on this?

Quote: (10-23-2012 01:18 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Tenderman, What are your plans if Obama wins the election? I remember some celebs saying they were leaving the US last time.

Also are you serious about taking cash play on this?

Tenderman is going to join Ted Nugent to fight the revolution to overthrow the socialist dictator Barack Hussein Obama. He will probably end up either up dead or in jail.

@ 1:40

Quote: (10-23-2012 12:39 PM)captaingeneric Wrote:  

It's sad that many of the comments here wouldn't look out of place if they were posted on manboobz.

Entertaining as it is, this forum isn't nearly as red pill as it fancies itself to be.

I'm not saying the Republicans are a great choice, far from it. But anybody who votes for the commissars of culture-rot we have around us today is still sound asleep.

Vote Republican, or vote a write-in candidate, or a joke vote, or don't vote at all... But Obama?

Really?

Dude, I'm sorry, but you have lost me here. Can you explain to me how Republicans are more "red pill" than the Democrats. As far as I can tell neither one of them is more "red pill" than the other.

Mitt Romney the mormon is so red-pill... LOL!

Romney/Ryan's defense plan.

Quote: (10-23-2012 01:36 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Mitt Romney the mormon is so red-pill... LOL!

What are you talking about? You can't get much more red pill than magic underwear!

Feminists are universally voting for Obama. Why are you guys voting with the feminists? Blue-pill.

Quote: (10-23-2012 04:15 AM)Sabra Wrote:  

Quote: (10-22-2012 10:36 PM)LoveBug Wrote:  

Its tough for me to watch these foreign debates for two reasons

1. Apparently Israel's safety has become our safety.. Iran threatenng Israel means Iran is threatening us.. Watching these two leaders grovel over who bends over more for this nation is embarassing.

2. We aren't the world police. Anything outside of our borders that doesn't threaten our national safety or vital economic interests is none of our business

As an Israeli and American I can understand your comment. Israel may be getting a disproportionate amount of coverage in this election, partly due to Netanyahu's meddling. But supporting the US's only ally and trusted military / intelligence partner in the region isn't a bad thing.

Don't underestimate the consequence of Iran getting a nuke. Iran's leadership hates the US about as much as they hate Israel. This is a country that openly supports Islamic terrorist groups.

Letting them get a nuke will result in another loose cannon in the area, just like Pakistan or N Korea, which the US will have to treat with kiddie gloves. It also may set off a nuclear arms race in the middle east (keep in mind that many of the Arab countries hate or distrust the Iranians as well, and won't let them be the only Muslim country in the area with a nuke).

Basically, this issue requires international intervention. 'stay the hell out' may be the right policy in some cases, but sometimes, as in Afghanistan, the US isn't left with much choice. Better to try to avoid reaching that situation rather than being forced into it and needing to respond

You fail to understand the chess of Geo-politics. Iran with a nuke means more safety for the region and Israel. They will never use it.

North Korea? Is a puppet of China. They mirror Chinese end goals. They can't even keep the lights on and you expect them to pull of a stunt like that? No aid from China means North Korea starves and has no power. They are past being Reactionary and now are just trying to survive. Korea would be used as a decoy/proxy if shit ever popped of.

Pakistan is a USA puppet. Both double cross each other constantly. It is like a bad marriage but one the USA tries to maintain to hedge India vs Pakistan against each other and keep them from allying with Russia-China.

Whom honestly thinks Iran would strike Israel with the USA standing right behind it. They would both pound it to the stone age and kill every Iranian within a 100 mile radius of Tehran. Israel would use one of its 50-100 nukes and hammer down on Iran so hard, so fuking hard. You honestly would think they are that dumb to slit thier own necks? Where would the mullahs hide when nukes rain down on them? Get real.

Iran talks heavy because it knows that any move on it (first strike) would open a multi-directional can of worms that the USA could not contain:

Shipping lanes would close

Oil skyrockets

The sitting ducks of USA troops all stationed around Iran would become target practice.

Navel fleet attacks left and right.

Rockets into Israeli Cities.

Uprisings all over the Shi'a Crescent. With back pressure on the borders and fringes of: Egypt, FSU/Russia, Turkey, Pakistan, Israel (3 of whom have nukes).

The protection of economic/military interests. Of these nations: Pakistan, India (both USA proxies); China, Russia via SCO would mean something would have to transpire to Proctect their heavy investments in Iran.

None of this shit helps America. It would be like a box of birds being cracked open and trying to get then back in the box. Good luck.

This is all worse to the USA, 100% Israel is fortified and could care less if the rest of the world burns into rubble. It's Cities being shelled would be its price payed for the complete destruction of the region around it (The British used to call it "the cost/price of Empire"). In Israel's radical right wing this is thier warped version of peace.

This is why the top brass of the Army warn against it, and why any President whom is trying to push for it (war with Iran) is simply a whore to Tel Aviv and has zero interests in helping American interests. Because it has no *real* net benefit to America (*there is a undercurrent of short economic gains made to the USD$ due to explosive oil prices*).

And to mirror what I said with Romney (a top level Mormon) wanting to plunge the USA into the depths of hell - which is what a war with Iran would do - because it would (eventually in time) 100% lead to WWIII... 100%. Romney is giving the war hungry neo-cons the keys to the Foreign Policy file, while Obama is a whore to Big-Bank and Israeli money. America is somewhat fucked regardless but at least Obama has to pretend he is on the Left and has to dance around the whole Iran situation - Proxy wars would continue.

A world war in which Men aka You and Me are the main victims. War as a feminine trope feasts and targets Males, hundreds of millions of us would be killed...with our children left to suffer. I can't fuking support that.

Back to less alarming talk.

The Iran vs Israel debate is simply that Israel wants to be the only power in the region. It does not want to be forced to have legitimate diplomatic dialogue with a nation that would be an equal. Israel runs on a hamster wheel so fuking large it does not want have to look in the mirror and conduct itself rationally at the table of diplomacy.

You have top level people like Gates and Patraues calling that a war with Iran serves the USA no good.

A strike on Iran is not needed.

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Nobody is going to fuck with Israel.

It's enemies are its own creation that all Reactionary States produce. Israel's greatest threat to itself... is itself. All Reactionary States crumble from within due to its own paranoia. History always repeats itself. Israel is on a path to destroy itself from within just like the other domimant reactionary State: America. So much talk on outside threats that don't exist when internally both economies are crumbling, and it's citizens standards of life slowly dwindling.

This is when massive war budgets must be trimmed. But this never happens in a Reactionary State as they simply just justify the war budgets by turning the war machine onto its own people (USA examples: Patriot Act, NDAA, etc).

I have my own views on Israel obviously in which I believe it is trying to hedge shit to eventually fuck over the USA for its own gains (As I said Israel cares not if the whole globe lays in ruins as long as their borders are held, and goals achieved).

But regardless of my views there will have to a fork in the road moment when the cord is cut between the two. There will have to a point where one side finds it toxic or a suicide mission to go through with whatever the mission the other side proposes may be at that time. We are far from that scenario (I hope) but it is one that will eventually have to happen in time.

Quote: (10-23-2012 02:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Feminists are universally voting for Obama. Why are you guys voting with the feminists? Blue-pill.

You mean those same feminists that Romney is desperately trying to grovel and pander to with his "binders full of women" crap?

Yeah, magic underwear Romney is so red pill.. LOL

I don't like either candidate, but here's my fair and balanced commentary on last night's debate.

If you're seriously into foreign policy it was boring; they kept going back to domestic policy talking points and didn't get much beyond the Greater Middle East and China. Fair enough: most of the electorate doesn't give a fuck about the rest of the world.

The split screen format was tough on both candidates. Obama looked contemptuous, while Romney managed to look more measured and presidential, even if he looked tired with his eyes watering.

- The two candidates' Syria policy is more or less the same. Romney had a slightly clearer vision as to how it would be implemented in practise, but the end goals and priorities were identical.

- I can't believe more people didn't pick up on this, but according to Obama killing Bin Laden was important because a fourteen year old girl thanked him for giving her closure? Way to pander to emotions and not gloss over strategic issues.

- Romney is right saying that Obama should not have announced the pull-out date from Afghanistan. It's fine to pull out in 2014, but don't announce it to the world just to score points at home when that announcement is going to fuck up the whole strategy. The Taliban can now distribute leaflets telling people not to help NATO forces because they're leaving anyway in 2014 and they're staying. That hasn't helped with winning hearts and minds.

- Obama is right saying that more military spending is not the answer. The point is to invest in smart capabilities, cyber-warfare, more integration and intelligence sharing. You don't keep an edge by pouring more money into heavy machinery; this amounts to welfare for districts with defence manufacturing industries.

- Romney is right that more troops are needed in Iraq. You break it you buy it. If the situation is not stabilised Iraq will become an Iranian proxy state and bad things will happen, further stabilising the whole region. With fighting intensifying in Syria, the last thing we need is Iraq spiralling further out of control.

- Despite all their talk of refocusing on the Asia-Pacific region, neither candidate went beyond superficial talk about getting tough on China, standing up to China's 'cheating' (I never knew there was such a thing in the lawless world of geopolitics). There were no compelling strategies for asserting American influence in the Asia-Pacific beyond building a trade bloc to counterbalance China (credit to Obama for that one). This is despite Obama saying that China is the biggest threat to the US after terrorism.

- Romney much better on Latin America: wants closer integration, expand free-trade to South America. This has the potential to bring prosperity, bring more manufacturing to the Americas and by extension mitigate the US-China deficit.

Your not fully red-pill until you see the bullshit and not vote.

Look how much energy is wasted debating the differences between two men whom are the same. Listen to the crap they say in the debates, then good read thier hard copy polices. They are the exact same. You fall for rethoric like females falling for our game. They are all running game on you 100%... and yes they (R-money and Big Beta O) all want to fuck you... Over.

Your City and County (State level in some instances, but barley anymore) elections are the only ones that matter. This is where real men can pull up thier socks and run for positions that effect your everyday life.

Real Men have no access to the political spheres of DC. Unless your a old-liner, evrey DC lawmaker is a blue-pill whore.

Evrey true red-pill man won't be voting on election day.

Quote: (10-23-2012 02:55 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Your not fully red-pill until you see the bullshit and not vote.

Look how much energy is wasted debating the differences between two men whom are the same. Listen to the crap they say in the debates, then good read thier hard copy polices. They are the exact same. You fall for rethoric like females falling for our game. They are all running game on you 100%... and yes they (R-money and Big Beta O) all want to fuck you... Over.

Your City and County (State level in some instances, but barley anymore) elections are the only ones that matter. This is where real men can pull up thier socks and run for positions that effect your everyday life.

Real Men have no access to the political spheres of DC. Unless your a old-liner, evrey DC lawmaker is a blue-pill whore.

Evrey true red-pill man won't be voting on election day.

I guess you were born after, or started following current events after 2000?

Quote: (10-23-2012 02:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Feminists are universally voting for Obama. Why are you guys voting with the feminists? Blue-pill.

Can we stop with this type of glib nonsense? I can find plenty of reprehensible people that always fall behind Republicans. You're just defaulting to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" thinking. Some racists in the south refuse to vote Democrat "because blacks and Jews vote Democrat." What kind of shit is that?

Quote: (10-23-2012 02:20 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Feminists are universally voting for Obama. Why are you guys voting with the feminists? Blue-pill.

Instead I'll vote with the traditional/religious conservatives, white nationalists and assorted racialists who put women (particularly white women) on absurdly high pedestals.

That wouldn't be blue pill at all, I'm sure.

Quote: (10-23-2012 03:31 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Can we stop with this type of glib nonsense?

Most of this thread is nonsense. Many of which you "liked".

Religious and family values nut cases like this asshole are universally voting for Romney,

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Glenn BeckVerified
‏@glennbeck
Oh my, DIVINELY INSPIRED. Romney looks kind, truthful and firm. O looks mean, and like he is a liar..

I would have serious concerns about anybody who is on the same side as this lunatic.

Quote: (10-23-2012 02:55 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Your not fully red-pill until you see the bullshit and not vote.

Look how much energy is wasted debating the differences between two men whom are the same. Listen to the crap they say in the debates, then good read thier hard copy polices. They are the exact same. You fall for rethoric like females falling for our game. They are all running game on you 100%... and yes they (R-money and Big Beta O) all want to fuck you... Over.

Your City and County (State level in some instances, but barley anymore) elections are the only ones that matter. This is where real men can pull up thier socks and run for positions that effect your everyday life.

Real Men have no access to the political spheres of DC. Unless your a old-liner, evrey DC lawmaker is a blue-pill whore.

Evrey true red-pill man won't be voting on election day.

There are differences between Dems and Repubs.

If you like higher taxes and more government regulation, then vote for the Dems.

In the long run, though, both parties are probably not going to do much about the entitlement bombs coming because old people vote in high numbers.

In the mean time, I would like there too be as low taxes as possible since I can always save money in the mean time and figure out an exit strategy.

Intrade has this election pretty much coming down to ohio as decider.

Is Romney going to steal the election? Interesting that his family will own stakes in voting machines in swing states. Now if the Obamas were doing in Ohio can you imagine how loud the right would be screaming?

How the fuck is this even legal? Yeah, no conflict of interests here!

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/r...d-Colorado

Red pill guys on a mens' forum voting for the guy who is supported by the American Family Association. Hmm.. one wonders how the PUA lifestyle reconciles with fundamentalist Christian values. LOL.

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The American Family Association (AFA) is a United States non-profit organization that promotes conservative fundamentalist Christian values. It opposes same-sex marriage, pornography, and abortion.

The irony.