[kosko]

(10-21-2012 09:38 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

He sure follows some weird "religion".

I'm currently reading a bunch of stuff on Mormans and Mitt. The "Oath of Vengeance" thing is legit. People can't even get it twisted its every high level Mormons goal to destroy the United States. The Mormon "Oath of Vengeance" stems from the LDS's "White Horse Prophecy" in which J. Smith and Mormons believe they will "rescue" the United States when the Constitution hangs "by a thread".

They believe in the they will save America by installing a Mormon theocracy.

Brigham Young: "when the Constitution of the United States hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for the 'Mormon' Elders to save it from utter destruction; and they will step forth and do it."

Many believe Romney is the LDS/Mormons path into realizing their revenge.

The LDS Church IMO is like a huge MLM/Pyramid Scheme as it was created as a scam to get women and money by Smith and carried on by Young. They both had shady histories - being arrested for fraud and shit. Plus their scriptures were made off lies. Either Young or Smith claimed to decode the scriptures from Egyptian text and this was prior to the discovery of the Rosetta Stone, so obviously this was a lie because they had no idea how to translate the text lol.

The Media won't touch this with a 10 foot poll because:

A: They couldn't get much info any ways.

B. This Presidential Election is essentially a bailout for the decaying Mainstream Media which is loosing money and closing up Stations and Newspapers all across the land. Both Candidates are spending $2.5 Billion on this election, the Media is in bed with them. This is why I say anything presented to you on that level is heavily scripted and fake.

[tenderman100]

(10-21-2012 10:40 PM)kosko Wrote:  

(10-21-2012 09:38 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

He sure follows some weird "religion".

I'm currently reading a bunch of stuff on Mormans and Mitt. The "Oath of Vengeance" thing is legit. People can't even get it twisted its every high level Mormons goal to destroy the United States. The Mormon "Oath of Vengeance" stems from the LDS's "White Horse Prophecy" in which J. Smith and Mormons believe they will "rescue" the United States when the Constitution hangs "by a thread".

They believe in the they will save America by installing a Mormon theocracy.

Brigham Young: "when the Constitution of the United States hangs, as it were, upon a single thread, they will have to call for the 'Mormon' Elders to save it from utter destruction; and they will step forth and do it."

Many believe Romney is the LDS/Mormons path into realizing their revenge.

The LDS Church IMO is like a huge MLM/Pyramid Scheme as it was created as a scam to get women and money by Smith and carried on by Young. They both had shady histories - being arrested for fraud and shit. Plus their scriptures were made off lies. Either Young or Smith claimed to decode the scriptures from Egyptian text and this was prior to the discovery of the Rosetta Stone, so obviously this was a lie because they had no idea how to translate the text lol.

The Media won't touch this with a 10 foot poll because:

A: They couldn't get much info any ways.

B. This Presidential Election is essentially a bailout for the decaying Mainstream Media which is loosing money and closing up Stations and Newspapers all across the land. Both Candidates are spending $2.5 Billion on this election, the Media is in bed with them. This is why I say anything presented to you on that level is heavily scripted and fake.

All religious rituals are bogus.

Did you hear about how this itinerant carpenter iRabbi who spoke Aramaic about 2000 years ago is actually considered the SON OF GOD by a whole bunch of religious crazies? And that his mom was a Virgin when he was born-- that no one tapped her ass and she still was pregant! And that this knucklehead rose from the dead after being executed by the Romans and after being entombed for 3 days? And that right now, these nutobs say you can eat a cracker and drink shitty wine, and it's just like eating his body and drinking his blood??

Ewww.

Bottom line, anybody who thinks the practitioners of the Mormon religion (a) actually believe they are destined to create a theocracy and (b) are actually going to TRY to create one here in the US of A are as nuts as any religious fanatic.

[ManAbout]

(10-21-2012 10:58 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

All religious rituals are bogus.

Did you hear about how this itinerant carpenter iRabbi who spoke Aramaic about 2000 years ago is actually considered the SON OF GOD by a whole bunch of religious crazies? And that his mom was a Virgin when he was born-- that no one tapped her ass and she still was pregant! And that this knucklehead rose from the dead after being executed by the Romans and after being entombed for 3 days? And that right now, these nutobs say you can eat a cracker and drink shitty wine, and it's just like eating his body and drinking his blood??

Ewww.

Bottom line, anybody who thinks the practitioners of the Mormon religion (a) actually believe they are destined to create a theocracy and (b) are actually going to TRY to create one here in the US of A are as nuts as any religious fanatic.

No, but you just might get to sniff his magic underwear as a reward for voting for him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-...rwear.html

[ManAbout]

Btw, make sure you don't catch Romnesia.

[Excelsior]

[porscheguy]

(10-21-2012 10:58 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

All religious rituals are bogus.

Did you hear about how this itinerant carpenter iRabbi who spoke Aramaic about 2000 years ago is actually considered the SON OF GOD by a whole bunch of religious crazies? And that his mom was a Virgin when he was born-- that no one tapped her ass and she still was pregant! And that this knucklehead rose from the dead after being executed by the Romans and after being entombed for 3 days? And that right now, these nutobs say you can eat a cracker and drink shitty wine, and it's just like eating his body and drinking his blood??

Ewww.

Bottom line, anybody who thinks the practitioners of the Mormon religion (a) actually believe they are destined to create a theocracy and (b) are actually going to TRY to create one here in the US of A are as nuts as any religious fanatic.

[LoveBug]

Its tough for me to watch these foreign debates for two reasons

1. Apparently Israel's safety has become our safety.. Iran threatenng Israel means Iran is threatening us.. Watching these two leaders grovel over who bends over more for this nation is embarassing.

2. We aren't the world police. Anything outside of our borders that doesn't threaten our national safety or vital economic interests is none of our business

[speakeasy]

I think Obama locked it up tonight.

[Excelsior]

(10-22-2012 10:58 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I think Obama locked it up tonight.

I'd agree. Very solid performance, seemed like a clear win to me.

[Sabra]

(10-22-2012 10:36 PM)LoveBug Wrote:  

Its tough for me to watch these foreign debates for two reasons

1. Apparently Israel's safety has become our safety.. Iran threatenng Israel means Iran is threatening us.. Watching these two leaders grovel over who bends over more for this nation is embarassing.

2. We aren't the world police. Anything outside of our borders that doesn't threaten our national safety or vital economic interests is none of our business

As an Israeli and American I can understand your comment. Israel may be getting a disproportionate amount of coverage in this election, partly due to Netanyahu's meddling. But supporting the US's only ally and trusted military / intelligence partner in the region isn't a bad thing.

Don't underestimate the consequence of Iran getting a nuke. Iran's leadership hates the US about as much as they hate Israel. This is a country that openly supports Islamic terrorist groups.

Letting them get a nuke will result in another loose cannon in the area, just like Pakistan or N Korea, which the US will have to treat with kiddie gloves. It also may set off a nuclear arms race in the middle east (keep in mind that many of the Arab countries hate or distrust the Iranians as well, and won't let them be the only Muslim country in the area with a nuke).

Basically, this issue requires international intervention. 'stay the hell out' may be the right policy in some cases, but sometimes, as in Afghanistan, the US isn't left with much choice. Better to try to avoid reaching that situation rather than being forced into it and needing to respond

[tenderman100]

(10-23-2012 01:50 AM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

(10-22-2012 10:58 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I think Obama locked it up tonight.

I'd agree. Very solid performance, seemed like a clear win to me.

I'd disagree.

Obama was snarky, mean, and small. Obama was like all those babes on the online girl hamster thread -- thinking that sarcasm is some sort of lovable virtue. And Obama's strategy -- make Romney appear a worse choice -- was effectively eviscerated early on when Romney said "Attacking me is not an agenda."

In contrast, Mitt Romney has one objective, and one objective only -- and that was to look presidential. And he accomplished that objective.

Think about it. Romney could have roasted Obama over Benghazi. But he took a pass. Why? Romney, about his campaign, is thinking like a business strategist. I have to dispel myths about me, he's saying, myths that Obama is planting that I am going to be another George Bush. I have to show people I understand the foreign policy landscape, and have my arms around the details. And I have to make the public comfortable.

In contrast, Obama has to poke, prod, give Romney the death stare. These are the tactics of the challenger who is behind, not the incumbent who should ostensibly be comfortable with his record. Obama had no choice but to take the dispostive tack, and it showed him as very small indeed.

Last debate, all the pundits and media said Obama won decisively. Guess what? The polls kept sliding toward Romney. Not only did Obama NOT stop the movement toward Romney, but Romney actually gained more momentum after that so-called loss.

Here's the bottom line. People just want to feel comfortable voting for the other guy, i.e. to fire Obama. They want to get rid of Obama, but they want reassurance that Romney is no war monger. He showed them last night that he isn't.

By the way, on the snarky response from Obama about how we don't use horses, take a look at this.

Special forces guys on horseback -- in Afghanistan.

[worldwidetraveler]

It was an interesting debate, mainly due to Romney changing his debate style. I am looking forward to seeing if it worked for him. I think most had Obama winning the debate but that doesn't really matter in the long run. I think Romney was trying to put to rest the war mongering and will probably be using the debate for television commercials to further promote that side of him.

Anyway, I saw this meme of Romney and it had me laughing.

[speakeasy]

Lol, tenderman. Are you on Romney's payroll? That was an epic piece of spin doctoring. He lost the debate. Few analysts(other than talk radio hacks and unabashed partisans) are even contesting that. He was about as weak in this last debate as Obama was in the first one.

I'm calling the election early. Obama will sweep the electoral map. He will win the popular by 2 or 3 percentage points. You heard it here.

[ManAbout]

(10-23-2012 09:50 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I'm calling the election early. Obama will sweep the electoral map. He will win the popular by 2 or 3 percentage points. You heard it here.

I think your confidence is misplaced, not because Obama is not the better candidate, but because you are under estimating the stupidity of the low information voter.

Bush won the election twice, against better candidates.

[tenderman100]

(10-23-2012 09:50 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Lol, tenderman. Are you on Romney's payroll? That was an epic piece of spin doctoring. He lost the debate. Few analysts(other than talk radio hacks and unabashed partisans) are even contesting that. He was about as weak in this last debate as Obama was in the first one.

I'm calling the election early. Obama will sweep the electoral map. He will win the popular by 2 or 3 percentage points. You heard it here.

Comfortable in that cocoon? Need a blankie?

[tenderman100]

(10-23-2012 10:09 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

(10-23-2012 09:50 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I'm calling the election early. Obama will sweep the electoral map. He will win the popular by 2 or 3 percentage points. You heard it here.

I think your confidence is misplaced, not because Obama is not the better candidate, but because you are under estimating the stupidity of the low information voter.

Bush won the election twice, against better candidates.

Au contraire, the low information voter was out in droves in 2008.

"Obama!! He's gonna pay my mortgage."

Now even the Obama kool-aid drinkers have come down a notch.

"Obama!! I'm getting my Obama cell phone!!"

As for better candidates....

Al Gore was a pompous windbag.
John Kerry was an effete windsurfer.

Better candidates my ass.

[Farmageddon]

All kidding aside, Tenderman, if you would like to place a $ bet on the debate, I'd be totally game.

We can sign a contract or go through a third party we both trust or whatever.

I have Obama for the win.

[tenderman100]

(10-23-2012 09:50 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Lol, tenderman. Are you on Romney's payroll?

By the way, think David Gergen is on the payroll?

[tenderman100]

(10-23-2012 10:19 AM)Farmageddon Wrote:  

All kidding aside, Tenderman, if you would like to place a $ bet on the debate, I'd be totally game.

We can sign a contract or go through a third party we both trust or whatever.

I have Obama for the win.

Talk to me the weekend before.

[Farmageddon]

Quote:

Talk to me the weekend before.

But I'm talking to you now. You seem pretty confident Romney is going to take it.

I'll lay you even money on anything up to 1k.

I'm not just trolling your thread, by the way, this is a legitimate offer.

[tenderman100]

(10-23-2012 10:25 AM)Farmageddon Wrote:  

Quote:

Talk to me the weekend before.

But I'm talking to you now. You seem pretty confident Romney is going to take it.

I'll lay you even money on anything up to 1k.

I'm not just trolling your thread, by the way, this is a legitimate offer.

Nope, I am confident that Romney is doing all the right things TO win.

It doesn't mean that he is in fact GOING to win. He may well lose. This election may turn on a couple hundred thousand votes in Colorado, Iowa, Ohio, and Virginia. Those final weekend polls in those swing states will tell the tale. Why? Because the pollsters have reputations, and they will be much more scientific, must more realistic right then. No one cares about the polls two months out or even two weeks out. The Sunday before Tuesday? Much more reliable.

The wind is at his back.

Your bet offer now is a sucker's bet. I don't do sucker's bets. Again, talk to me the weekend before.

[Menace]

As much as I'm not that a big fan of Obama, voting for non-Obama is not a sufficiently strong case. Romney is just too thirsty for this thing. I have tried to like Romney, but he keeps giving me reasons not to vote for him. Ultimately, it won't really matter. I really disliked GWB, but my life did not magically become better after Obama, nor would it if Romney got elected. Romney's tax policies are wholly unconvincing. Ron Paul!

[worldwidetraveler]

(10-23-2012 09:50 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Lol, tenderman. Are you on Romney's payroll? That was an epic piece of spin doctoring. He lost the debate. Few analysts(other than talk radio hacks and unabashed partisans) are even contesting that. He was about as weak in this last debate as Obama was in the first one.

I'm calling the election early. Obama will sweep the electoral map. He will win the popular by 2 or 3 percentage points. You heard it here.

I think Romney has a better change then most gave him starting out.

The polls for Ohio seem very tight. I think whoever wins Ohio will win the race.

I don't think the debate locked anything down for any candidate.

[Farmageddon]

Quote:

Your bet offer now is a sucker's bet. I don't do sucker's bets. Again, talk to me the weekend before.

It's a legitimate even money proposition. But if you don't want to take it, fair enough. Just thought I would offer.

[ManAbout]

After last night's debate, I am guessing that tenderman is going to be voting Obama as well: