THE X-FACTOR
lately i noticed the pattern of all of my dates that ended up with sex. surprisingly, i was doing quite the opposite things to the standard pua tips. meaning that i didn't keep it fun/light/banter only, i didn't try to be the mystery man to be solved, i didn't avoid deep topics and connecting deeply, i didn't present myself as too superman/james bond/alpha/etc.
"attraction land" based game maybe works for others but i personally consider it major bullshit. from my experience, with no emotional connection/trust you come across as another replaceable shiny object, another guy from the club, a ghost, a nameless drink causing hangover the next morning, instead of a real human being she can trust and feel comfortable around.
i don't start this vibe at loud nightclubs obviously but there is always a possibility to find some quiet spot or move venues or go to her/my place later and talk about some deep conversations there. dates of course are great scenario for this.
THE PREREQUISITE..
in order to even do this it's essential to be really "the man" at the start when we break the ice. chill or high energy, doesn't matter. what matters is that the approach and basic follow up must be good. like really good. cause the girl doesn't care about some meek shmoe sharing his precious little stories. she wants the fucking champ. so the first of interaction consist approach/enduring tests/physicality has to be tight to switch to deep shit later
THE DEEP SHIT..
anything that conveys comfort, trust, security, vulnerability and emotional connection. what i do is i open myself up to her. i share stories from my life (bad and good), i talk about how i learned from michael jordan to always stay positive and optimistic.. how i view world and people.. how i'm misuderstood.. how i don't relate to people of certain attitude.. how i've always done things my way even in kichten so my grandma is permanently mad at me.. how i despise people's 'magic pill' expectations.. how i love music.. how view sex.. how i'm focused on eating healthy and working out.. how my broken home childhood affected me.. how hard it is to me to trust people.. how i can't find myself.. how i feel introverted and extroverted back and forth which makes me crazy.. how my grandpa was my best friend who understood me..
KEY: these stories/emotions/facts/etc i share don't really need to feed into her ideal guy or even her type of a guy. no need to care too much whether she will like it or not. simply the fact that she knows some personal thing about you (whether she approves it or not) is the difference, i don't know, the content is secondary, what's important is the mere fact you shared it with her so she feels you're opened to her and you trust her to reveal it. it's like with gifts, the act of giving something is the whole thing, not the coolness of gift itself.
ok but i don't just talk talk talk endlessly. it's a two way conversation. smooth changing topics and threads. i'm good at it. of course no active impressing and shit like that. stories just pop up naturally in relation to her stuff. i really paint the picture of me here. i really cement that soulful connection sucking her into our own little bubble where everything around us disappears and she's in trance. THAT'S game. it's ballsy to have courage to be vulnerable in front of a hottie where she can mock you or hurt you somehow.
NO RUSH..
yes it takes little bit more time for not that much. is 2-3 hours too much? i don't think so. i remember how i used to spend the same amount of time trying to attract chicks, playing around, laughing, keeping it too fun too light non stop waaaaaaaaaay too much time. which backfired harshly.
the escalation goes soooooo smooth it's a joke. like we talk and someone gets closer, or we dance to barry white, or we share our favorite ways to do a "kiss toast", thing is, it's so intimate that there are plenty of opportunities so it automatically "just happens" hahahaha. most importantly.. NO RUSH. as soon as i rush too much she closes and that's really bad. i want her to be as open and comfortable as possible. it's like a crocodile who doesn't move and waits until his prey is as close as possible. kind of creepy example but that's how it looks like IMO.
EXAMPLES..
bi polish girl: i go to a bar to meet with with french girl. as i get there she talks to a drunk turk guy with his polish girl. they vibe well so i say 'fuck it swingers time!' and i talk to the polish girl. she's cute. so awesome ass. we sit next to each other. no chemistry. no attraction sparks. we barely even look at each other as we speak. she orders me a drink and says i can drink whatever i want cause her dude is paying. sweet. we talk more, share some deep shit about love and how i stupidly let go the only girl i wanted etc, we're in our bubble right now. second drink. french girl leaves. her shitfaced dude leaves later (turns out they're not together at all). we talk more. i flirt more asking what she does to her ass that it is sooo hot, i nonchalantly throw comments like 'i like upstairs because of the red lights, they arouse me' and she instantly propose to go there, we go, we sit, we talk, i show her 'kiss toasts', we kiss passionately just like that (zero touching before), we drink more, we slowly dance, we go to the next bar, drink, connect more, we talk about her being bi, we get out and i go to her place to bang.
nobody there would be able to tell that we're about to fuck if he looked at us. beside short kisses at the end inside 1st bar, it looked like two friends or siblings chilling out. it wasn't even a date. it was more like a warm approach in the bar since officialy i was with the the girl who already talked to them. in this case i didn't even break the ice too well, it was "right place and time" type of thing.
french girl: we met buying bus tickets. both in a rush, numbers exchange, bye. few days after we meet to eat some ice cream. nothing like to be an adult hahahah. again we talk, people watch, she talks about her studies, i talk how i was stupid student, blablabla, we play around with water fountains, we go to her dorm cause i'm interested in her books from college, we hang out at her place (still very little touching to this point), we fool around teaching ourselves some dance moves, we lay on the couch listening to music, she gives me massage, we talk, she orders pizza, we eat, we drink from our bodies and we bang.
basically it's very textbook. as long as i stay there, connect and obey "no rush" rule. the details are not important, the
NOT THIS HANK FUCKER AGAIN..
yes, again. as you can see it's very similar to that fucking hank moody shit. chill, flirt hard, sexual innuendos, talk talk talk, share your shit, connect and things just in between. as for this hank character, i remember one time some guy here trashed californication for hank being pussy white knight dude. yeah, that's the whole fucking thing. he doesn't get it. it's obvious to everybody that hank is the coolest cat around so attraction part is given but by him showing his warm/vulnerable side THAT'S what get these chicks really open and wet. that scene where he smoked with latina maid is real as fuck to me.
IN A NUTSHELL..
- attraction land kills my game
- breaking the ice and first impression must be good
- i go into comfort ASAP
- we open up, show vulnerability and connect emotionally
- it builds huge trust comfort and security
- unless i do huge stupid shit, it gets intimate smoothly every time
THE LESSON..
get cool, work on your lifestyle and don't be afraid to share your true personality with women patiently. paradoxically this the fastest road to their hearts and pants. also, opening up and connecting emotionally is great intro to injecting more/less "drama drug" later.
i suggest guys to go jeet-kune-do on this thread. take what you find useful and discard the rest and spare yourself opinion before trying it.
lately i noticed the pattern of all of my dates that ended up with sex. surprisingly, i was doing quite the opposite things to the standard pua tips. meaning that i didn't keep it fun/light/banter only, i didn't try to be the mystery man to be solved, i didn't avoid deep topics and connecting deeply, i didn't present myself as too superman/james bond/alpha/etc.
"attraction land" based game maybe works for others but i personally consider it major bullshit. from my experience, with no emotional connection/trust you come across as another replaceable shiny object, another guy from the club, a ghost, a nameless drink causing hangover the next morning, instead of a real human being she can trust and feel comfortable around.
i don't start this vibe at loud nightclubs obviously but there is always a possibility to find some quiet spot or move venues or go to her/my place later and talk about some deep conversations there. dates of course are great scenario for this.
THE PREREQUISITE..
in order to even do this it's essential to be really "the man" at the start when we break the ice. chill or high energy, doesn't matter. what matters is that the approach and basic follow up must be good. like really good. cause the girl doesn't care about some meek shmoe sharing his precious little stories. she wants the fucking champ. so the first of interaction consist approach/enduring tests/physicality has to be tight to switch to deep shit later
THE DEEP SHIT..
anything that conveys comfort, trust, security, vulnerability and emotional connection. what i do is i open myself up to her. i share stories from my life (bad and good), i talk about how i learned from michael jordan to always stay positive and optimistic.. how i view world and people.. how i'm misuderstood.. how i don't relate to people of certain attitude.. how i've always done things my way even in kichten so my grandma is permanently mad at me.. how i despise people's 'magic pill' expectations.. how i love music.. how view sex.. how i'm focused on eating healthy and working out.. how my broken home childhood affected me.. how hard it is to me to trust people.. how i can't find myself.. how i feel introverted and extroverted back and forth which makes me crazy.. how my grandpa was my best friend who understood me..
KEY: these stories/emotions/facts/etc i share don't really need to feed into her ideal guy or even her type of a guy. no need to care too much whether she will like it or not. simply the fact that she knows some personal thing about you (whether she approves it or not) is the difference, i don't know, the content is secondary, what's important is the mere fact you shared it with her so she feels you're opened to her and you trust her to reveal it. it's like with gifts, the act of giving something is the whole thing, not the coolness of gift itself.
ok but i don't just talk talk talk endlessly. it's a two way conversation. smooth changing topics and threads. i'm good at it. of course no active impressing and shit like that. stories just pop up naturally in relation to her stuff. i really paint the picture of me here. i really cement that soulful connection sucking her into our own little bubble where everything around us disappears and she's in trance. THAT'S game. it's ballsy to have courage to be vulnerable in front of a hottie where she can mock you or hurt you somehow.
NO RUSH..
yes it takes little bit more time for not that much. is 2-3 hours too much? i don't think so. i remember how i used to spend the same amount of time trying to attract chicks, playing around, laughing, keeping it too fun too light non stop waaaaaaaaaay too much time. which backfired harshly.
the escalation goes soooooo smooth it's a joke. like we talk and someone gets closer, or we dance to barry white, or we share our favorite ways to do a "kiss toast", thing is, it's so intimate that there are plenty of opportunities so it automatically "just happens" hahahaha. most importantly.. NO RUSH. as soon as i rush too much she closes and that's really bad. i want her to be as open and comfortable as possible. it's like a crocodile who doesn't move and waits until his prey is as close as possible. kind of creepy example but that's how it looks like IMO.
EXAMPLES..
bi polish girl: i go to a bar to meet with with french girl. as i get there she talks to a drunk turk guy with his polish girl. they vibe well so i say 'fuck it swingers time!' and i talk to the polish girl. she's cute. so awesome ass. we sit next to each other. no chemistry. no attraction sparks. we barely even look at each other as we speak. she orders me a drink and says i can drink whatever i want cause her dude is paying. sweet. we talk more, share some deep shit about love and how i stupidly let go the only girl i wanted etc, we're in our bubble right now. second drink. french girl leaves. her shitfaced dude leaves later (turns out they're not together at all). we talk more. i flirt more asking what she does to her ass that it is sooo hot, i nonchalantly throw comments like 'i like upstairs because of the red lights, they arouse me' and she instantly propose to go there, we go, we sit, we talk, i show her 'kiss toasts', we kiss passionately just like that (zero touching before), we drink more, we slowly dance, we go to the next bar, drink, connect more, we talk about her being bi, we get out and i go to her place to bang.
nobody there would be able to tell that we're about to fuck if he looked at us. beside short kisses at the end inside 1st bar, it looked like two friends or siblings chilling out. it wasn't even a date. it was more like a warm approach in the bar since officialy i was with the the girl who already talked to them. in this case i didn't even break the ice too well, it was "right place and time" type of thing.
french girl: we met buying bus tickets. both in a rush, numbers exchange, bye. few days after we meet to eat some ice cream. nothing like to be an adult hahahah. again we talk, people watch, she talks about her studies, i talk how i was stupid student, blablabla, we play around with water fountains, we go to her dorm cause i'm interested in her books from college, we hang out at her place (still very little touching to this point), we fool around teaching ourselves some dance moves, we lay on the couch listening to music, she gives me massage, we talk, she orders pizza, we eat, we drink from our bodies and we bang.
basically it's very textbook. as long as i stay there, connect and obey "no rush" rule. the details are not important, the
NOT THIS HANK FUCKER AGAIN..
yes, again. as you can see it's very similar to that fucking hank moody shit. chill, flirt hard, sexual innuendos, talk talk talk, share your shit, connect and things just in between. as for this hank character, i remember one time some guy here trashed californication for hank being pussy white knight dude. yeah, that's the whole fucking thing. he doesn't get it. it's obvious to everybody that hank is the coolest cat around so attraction part is given but by him showing his warm/vulnerable side THAT'S what get these chicks really open and wet. that scene where he smoked with latina maid is real as fuck to me.
IN A NUTSHELL..
- attraction land kills my game
- breaking the ice and first impression must be good
- i go into comfort ASAP
- we open up, show vulnerability and connect emotionally
- it builds huge trust comfort and security
- unless i do huge stupid shit, it gets intimate smoothly every time
THE LESSON..
get cool, work on your lifestyle and don't be afraid to share your true personality with women patiently. paradoxically this the fastest road to their hearts and pants. also, opening up and connecting emotionally is great intro to injecting more/less "drama drug" later.
i suggest guys to go jeet-kune-do on this thread. take what you find useful and discard the rest and spare yourself opinion before trying it.