Quote: (02-18-2019 12:32 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

Quote: (02-17-2019 11:59 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Quote: (02-17-2019 11:41 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

You would almost think the forum is being bodysnatcher'd and slowly replaced with bad faith actors designed to make us look ridiculous.

Gentlemen (and women posters pretending to be gentlemen), if you think this thread is stupid, then you need to find another forum. Because in case you didn't notice it, this is a forum run by Roosh who is on record for being opposed to women't rights and women't voting.

You are in the wrong place...try Huffington Post.

No need for snark, Mr. Lemon.

Why can't I have an opinion that runs contrary to the dogma of RVF? Furthermore, repealing the rights of women and starting a new religion just sounds plain dumb, especially if it's framed as a project that we incubate on a website on our tiny corner of the internet. I got another idea we can slap on to the end of JD's idea. Let's also overthrow all the Western governments and install trump as the leader and protector of all Western culture.

This seems like a high thread. That's cool and all but I think it's fair to tell your high friend to put down the pipe when he gets a bit ahead of himself.

As far as JasonD goes, I don't know him, but I don't remember weird threads from him in the past. I'm mainly getting at the idea that it seems like otherwise sane members have begun to make threads that are puzzling.

It's not so much women voting, but jewish/cultural-marxist controlled media.

Putin, Orban etc, do not have these issues, because they do not allow cultural-marxist propaganda.

Quote: (02-18-2019 03:34 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

Asking people to think about their problems in creative and constructive ways?

Too hard, bro, let's just roll back rights for half of the population. That's sure not to have 2nd and 3rd order sequences at all.

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At this point one may note that men must be either pampered or annihilated. They avenge light offenses; they cannot avenge severe ones; hence, the harm one does to a man must be such as to remove any fear of revenge.

Machiavelli

No beta orbiters will ever forgive the removal of women's rights. You would be fighting whoever they seduce or run to for decades.

You would literally have to kill every modern woman and sympathetic male over a certain age to get away with this. That would be a horrible idea biologically speaking.

Education and proper gender role policy in society are likely the only options to resolve the problems. Societal collapse is the alternative.

Quote: (02-18-2019 02:39 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

Quote: (02-18-2019 01:13 AM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Quote: (02-17-2019 11:59 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Quote: (02-17-2019 11:41 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

You would almost think the forum is being bodysnatcher'd and slowly replaced with bad faith actors designed to make us look ridiculous.

It's not just me who thinks so, then?

I find myself being condescending and sarcastic in like every post I make, and I wasn't sure if it was just me being an asshole because it's winter and gloomy outside, or the posts really have been a lot stupider.

Nah man we have a serious problem here and while membership on the forum has gone way up, the quality of the new members is pure trash. Even though Roosh has changed back to his old policy of new memberships at the beginning of the month, I don't think it's going to do much in terms of improving the quality. More and more, I'm becoming convinced that the problems we are having with our females is directly due to the low quality of too many men such as our original poster here.

This.

The women are not the root problem. The men are.

It's A LOT easier to convince a man to:

-Learn game.
-Recognize good quality women.
-Not reproduce with shit women.

AND/OR

-encourage low value men to go MGTOW and not reproduce with shit women.

THAN

Taking voting rights away from entire gender.

Simply put: The real battle is convincing a majority of men to have some dignity and stop reproducing with shitty women. Better yet, not even acknowledging/dating/banging shitty women. And that in the end, it is better to die childless than have your children raised by some militant feminist.

That's how you win the war.

You almost nailed this post until the end.

Rotten Western women are not the only women on Earth. There are billions of other women you can create a family that is pleasing in the sight of God, ensuring that your values will live on.

Mgtow and especially black pill is just repackaged game denialism. It should be banned on the forum. A passive aggressive form of defeatism is still defeatism. It has no place here among truly masculine men that are dedicated to problem solving difficult life matters.

Roosh, you need to consider strongly taking a stand against black pill garbage posted here.

At the far end of the scale of what's achievable I think that Western men in male dominated fields ought to form a very generic union premised on the old American "upsidown power hierarchy" system where most power/funding rests locally and least power/funding rests federally so as to avoid it being (((co-opted))).

This should focus on the jobs in particular that cover the 3 D's. Dirty, dangerous and dull. The union can operate in the typical manner that unions do, as a voting block and a means to exercise leverage against the state on issues where men are victimised by the system, particularly in favor of women directly. Having a basic war chest to be able to legitimately threaten legal action whenever a man is sidelined for a job or a promotion is often enough to force the HR cunts to back down.

Men's Rights organisations are a wimpy concept with no teeth. A union would be able to charge a pittance for membership based on the overall numbers available. With jobless numbers set to rise and many workforces particularly in the public sector enforcing mandatory female hiring quotas I think this is a legitimate way forward for men in general. It would also act as a powerful gathering point for larger societal grievances such as western men suffering under targeted replacement policies for the importation of third world beggars.

So looking above it seems a lot of men think “no don’t take away women rights, just make the men more Masculine so the male influence will change the minds of women”

This is kinda like outrage porn.

Quote: (02-19-2019 10:51 AM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  

So looking above it seems a lot of men think “no don’t take away women rights, just make the men more Masculine so the male influence will change the minds of women”

This is kinda like outrage porn.

To create an outrage, you would have to be the one bitching and complaining.

If you can't win the game, figure out how you can, instead of crying and trying to change the rules so everyone gets a trophy. Life was never meant to be fair.

Quote: (02-18-2019 02:37 PM)polar Wrote:  

In fact, he's been on the forum for three years longer than you, and has added his fair share of value as well.

I would agree that Jason has added value to the forum with travel tips....

Quote: (02-19-2019 07:53 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

As far as JasonD goes, I don't know him, but I don't remember weird threads from him in the past.

Uh...here you go then:
1) "Why Rape Should No Longer Be A Crime" -
thread-54241...pid1239391

2) "Banging Girls as an Uber Driver" -
thread-43309...#pid904793

Quote: (02-18-2019 02:37 PM)polar Wrote:  

I've also met JasonD and know enough to say he has no want for money or women.

I'd disagree with that completely having met Jason D myself...and hey..what's wrong with women & money? I like that stuff to...hence why I'm on this forum.

I'm sensing frustration "with how the world works" from the OP through these awkward threads.

Many members including myself have nothing but respect of Jason's quantitative intelligence not to mention how he's built a terrific location independent lifestyle that individuals would kill to possess.

In the meantime, OP needs to reflect on himself & develop a true understanding of what makes other individuals tick (aka people skills)....I think the serious question lies mainly within "does he want that?"

Most people would probably define "social skills" as merely a superficial ability to impress other individuals on a more extroverted level.

I would however define "social skills" as a critical ability to win friends & influence others around them on a positive level which stem from inner peace...something OP seriously lacks based on the tendency to post whiny threads blaming society for the shortcomings he's capable of rectifying but too lazy to follow through on.

I come into this thread and see the usual suspects are up to their typical antics posting weird shit that makes absolutely zero sense to anyone. Scott Adams coined it best.

Here's a fidget spinner for some of the posters who can't contain their "loserthink":



Did you know that fidget spinners were invented by (((my people))) to distract Palestinian children from throwing rocks?

Quote: (02-18-2019 05:40 PM)B-Minus Wrote:  

The only religion anybody needs is lifting. The gym is church, mass is in session. Make sure to thank the lord for these gains you are about to recieve. Read the swoly bible daily, and thou shalt covet these gains.

This is a correct statement. Imagine if all men lifted and made the gym their sanctuary away from women? Testosterone levels would skyrocket and the world would quickly become awesome.

Especially if the did so with the respect of Arnold.

Women have taken up lifting as well, though. The girls in my gym are all doing crossfit drills and deadlifting more than the guys

It seems that OP is facing a spiritual challenge, just like many of us at some point in our life. That’s why we have so many threads and posts about religion these days. I don’t think lifting, getting laid or social skills are what OP is looking for here. It’s good to do these things but some people need a spiritual attachment in their life. I follow a religion so I don’t feel the need to create a new one, but I understand where you are coming from.

I think what you need OP is to spend some time to read about different religions out there and come up with your own conclusions. Have you already done this?


Also, I can understand why Scotty Adams is labeling an entire group of people. Just trying to better sell us his crappy book. Attacking one group to better influence his base audience. Very effective technique for a marketer. What I don’t understand is why so many people here are doing the same thing. Maybe they do it unconsciously. The thing is when you are labeling people, their voices will not be heard and you are stopping any possible discussion. Plus, you are offering zero solution.


Finally, do your own research OP make sure you get different perspectives and see what makes the most sense for you. This is the best advice I can give as I don’t like to proselytize.

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In listening to Roosh's recent podcasts, and analyzing the life experiences of both myself and friends, it seems that the most important task for the next 100 years will be to rollback/eliminate women's rights throughout the world.

Unless we can restore a patriarchal social system, very little else will matter. Our current system, where women can vote, use birth control and have the same rights as men, is leading us to a society that doesn't reproduce itself, families are broken, and where most men are marginalized without families (and thus have less incentive to contribute to society). The will all lead to economic stagnation and a barbarian invasion.

The problem is that our ancestors who promoted women's rights didn't fully understand the hypergamous nature of women, and the chaos that would result when allowing women full control over choosing their sexual partners.

So what is the solution? Throughout history, religion has been one of the main forces in keeping women's behavior in check. I believe that biologically, women are much more susceptible to religion than men are, as they are emotional creatures and have a tendency to believe in superstition.

However, Christianity today has been so watered down, that it can hardly be called a patriarchal religion anymore. In addition, advances in science would cause most thinking men to question many of the core tenets and stories of the Bible (resurrection of Jesus, virgin birth, etc).

I believe the world today needs a new religion. (I think most religions were simply created by a group of wise men, writing stories about how to live a good life, and then wrapping them in divine inspiration). This new religion should keep all the wisdom of Christianity (and possibly other belief systems), while updating it to be more believable given what we know about science today.

These are just my preliminary thoughts, but perhaps some RVF members reading this will agree, and be willing to engage in this long-term effort to save civilization from the abyss.

Quote: (02-19-2019 02:39 PM)Nater Wrote:  

It seems that OP is facing a spiritual challenge, just like many of us at some point in our life. That’s why we have so many threads and posts about religion these days. I don’t think lifting, getting laid or social skills are what OP is looking for here. It’s good to do these things but some people need a spiritual attachment in their life. I follow a religion so I don’t feel the need to create a new one, but I understand where you are coming from.

I think what you need OP is to spend some time to read about different religions out there and come up with your own conclusions. Have you already done this?


Also, I can understand why Scotty Adams is labeling an entire group of people. Just trying to better sell us his crappy book. Attacking one group to better influence his base audience. Very effective technique for a marketer. What I don’t understand is why so many people here are doing the same thing. Maybe they do it unconsciously. The thing is when you are labeling people, their voices will not be heard and you are stopping any possible discussion. Plus, you are offering zero solution.


Finally, do your own research OP make sure you get different perspectives and see what makes the most sense for you. This is the best advice I can give as I don’t like to proselytize.

Hey OP, this is a great thread. Perfectly appropriate for Rooshvforum, in fact, if Return of Kings was still running, I'd daresay this thread would have been the core of a perfect ROK post!

Keep up the good work.

Quote: (02-18-2019 06:39 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

L Ron Hubbard wasn't a charisma-less autist, he was a pimp.

Was that before or AFTER he became a cult-leader? Cult-leaders have a way of elevating losers into faux-alphas.

"Rights" are for peasants.

Peasants, as a rule, do not matter. They do not have any real power or real influence, let alone a quality of life one would envy.

There has never been a time with more socio-economic mobility in the world. You can dedicate your life to moving up the ladder and taking up some interesting hobbies in your leasure time. You get to a place where you can enjoy the best the world has to over, like many men on this forum did.

Or you can dedicate your life to fighting with peasants over their "rights".

Choice is yours.

Quote: (02-19-2019 12:26 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

Quote: (02-18-2019 02:37 PM)polar Wrote:  

In fact, he's been on the forum for three years longer than you, and has added his fair share of value as well.

I would agree that Jason has added value to the forum with travel tips....

Quote: (02-19-2019 07:53 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

As far as JasonD goes, I don't know him, but I don't remember weird threads from him in the past.

Uh...here you go then:
1) "Why Rape Should No Longer Be A Crime" -
thread-54241...pid1239391

2) "Banging Girls as an Uber Driver" -
thread-43309...#pid904793

Quote: (02-18-2019 02:37 PM)polar Wrote:  

I've also met JasonD and know enough to say he has no want for money or women.

I'd disagree with that completely having met Jason D myself...and hey..what's wrong with women & money? I like that stuff to...hence why I'm on this forum.

I'm sensing frustration "with how the world works" from the OP through these awkward threads.

Many members including myself have nothing but respect of Jason's quantitative intelligence not to mention how he's built a terrific location independent lifestyle that individuals would kill to possess.

In the meantime, OP needs to reflect on himself & develop a true understanding of what makes other individuals tick (aka people skills)....I think the serious question lies mainly within "does he want that?"

Most people would probably define "social skills" as merely a superficial ability to impress other individuals on a more extroverted level.

I would however define "social skills" as a critical ability to win friends & influence others around them on a positive level which stem from inner peace...something OP seriously lacks based on the tendency to post whiny threads blaming society for the shortcomings he's capable of rectifying but too lazy to follow through on.

A lot of guys that have this quantitative intelligence on the one hand, really seem to lack the type of social skills that you're describing here. That's why so many of these dudes have so much trouble with women. Some of them are able to read an instruction manual like Roosh's books and then go out and replicate some success in picking up girls and getting laid but ultimately fail in getting a girl's juices flowing so she'll want to stick around and become attached. Getting a girl hooked on you requires true game and is an art much more than a science and highly technical, analytical guys have a lot of trouble with this. They want to try and deal with a woman as if they are some computer algorithm that will behave predictably every time. They then get upset when women predictably behave unpredictably and irrationally and think that all women suck as a result.

Now as I said earlier, I've never met this dude so I won't judge him but those other threads are strange indeed. One other thing I'll add is even though you meet someone, hang with them and have a good time with them, the only way you really get to know them is by spending more time with them and seeing them in different situations. Too often when you meet forum guys, you don't see them for too long nor do you get to see them in anything other than in a more superficial social situation like going out gaming. One other telling thing here is that JasonD hasn't come back into a thread that he started, a provocative thread at that and responded to some of the disagreements here, mine included. Not sure what that means but it means something no doubt.

Honestly man. Thus post makes my soul hurt... in many ways...

God bless free speech though.

Quote: (02-18-2019 02:02 AM)Mage Wrote:  

Paganism.

It's the answer you seek OP.

It's not really new, but the new paganism would be a much scientifically updated version of the ancient version.

You cannot create anything new out of nothing, because it would have no roots in reality then.

Please do at least six months of intense research into Paganism before you reply. If your understanding about what a religion should be like comes from Christianity mainly, as your OP suggests, you are not ready to touch this subject, because Christianity slanders Paganism as something negative, while in truth it is the most natural and truthful of belief systems (it's not a religion, but a belief system, religion is too hierarchical and corrupt to apply to a system where every person can commune with God/nature directly instead of going to secluded temple and needing a Priest.).

"natural" and "truthful"

I laughed out loud when I read those two JasonD threads. I'm retracting my statement about JasonD not being an odd fellow.

Reading those two threads Brosemite posted should be required before coming into this thread and saying JD's new thread is not strange.

I agree removing women’s rights isn’t the answer. But please tell me what negative thing would happen if we did? Are the women going to revolt?

The problem is men. Men are weak when it comes to girls. It’s installed in our brains to desire them, protect them, sacrifice for them, love them, and forgive them. It’s much much easier to be a white knight than a misogynist. These white knights are rewarded not with pussy but validation and admiration (2 things most men desire) so it’s not unlikely for me to go out their way and act illogically to get those things.

It’s also much much easier to be a white knight beta cuck than it is to work out, learn game, and get women. Playing video games= adventure, online debates= controversy, women’s validation=medals and achievements, other betas and women= tribe. Porn= sex.

Until men start realizing their worth then there will be no change. Hate to say it but we have to treat women according to their value, the same way they treat us. Weak men and strong women destroy nations.

And yes strong women and strong men build nations too.

Quote: (02-19-2019 08:31 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Quote: (02-18-2019 02:39 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

This.

The women are not the root problem. The men are.

It's A LOT easier to convince a man to:

-Learn game.
-Recognize good quality women.
-Not reproduce with shit women.

AND/OR

-encourage low value men to go MGTOW and not reproduce with shit women.

THAN

Taking voting rights away from entire gender.

Simply put: The real battle is convincing a majority of men to have some dignity and stop reproducing with shitty women. Better yet, not even acknowledging/dating/banging shitty women. And that in the end, it is better to die childless than have your children raised by some militant feminist.

That's how you win the war.

You almost nailed this post until the end.

Rotten Western women are not the only women on Earth. There are billions of other women you can create a family that is pleasing in the sight of God, ensuring that your values will live on.

Mgtow and especially black pill is just repackaged game denialism. It should be banned on the forum. A passive aggressive form of defeatism is still defeatism. It has no place here among truly masculine men that are dedicated to problem solving difficult life matters.

Roosh, you need to consider strongly taking a stand against black pill garbage posted here.

I'm not advocating MGTOW for men in general. Although, I think the definition of MGTOW is very subjective. I just looked up what Roosh had to say as of late 2018:

Quote: (11-04-2018 09:13 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote: (11-04-2018 06:27 AM)RawGod Wrote:  

What do you mean by the MGTOW lifestyle? I know what MGTOW means. But we are not joining a club or getting a badge. If you want to take a break from women, then do so. No need to identify with some subculture.

The MGTOW lifestyle is withdrawing from human activity and attacking those who continue to play the game for their own benefit. There is no "lifestyle" to it.

I don't advocate for that. Withdrawing from human activity and attacking other men. If that's what most men consider MGTOW, then I need to find a new term to describe what I'm trying to convey. I would 100% support a ban based on Roosh's definition of MGTOW. This forum doesn't need any malcontents.

In short: What I was saying was that for low value men that have no hope and/or refuse to accept game/the red pill in the face of overwhelming evidence (and there are PLENTY of men like this), I think it is better to encourage these people to have some dignity and to exit out of the gene pool as oppose to what usually happens: them shacking up with some post wall feminist twat who wears the pants and pumps out the next generation of soy boys/faggots/feminists.

I wrote a substantial post on this in Sept 2016 that better explains my perspective. The original post was about some sloppy looking beta dude saying why he won't date a feminist:

Quote: (09-10-2016 07:12 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

I actually think it's very telling when guys that look like this dude, guys that typically have to settle for post-wall feminist types by default unless they have mad game/status/money, are willing to come out and reject feminism publicly.

The biggest issue with women in the western world is not the women; it's the men. It's the enormous amount of thirsty simps who look like this guy who will settle for a feminist cunt just to have some access to a pussy. These guys in large part have yet to reject bad women and therefore, perpetuate and enable bad behavior. They eventually breed with these feminist cunts who go on to produce limped dicked white knight young men and feminist cunt women as children. The longer this goes on, the harder it is to turn the ship around.

As we all know, women don't generally respond well to reason, logic, a valid argument, or whatever. They respond to action. When below average looking men are clearly rejecting dating feminist women, that puts A LOT of women on notice that their beta bucks fail-safe plan isn't so safe anymore.

The ultimate victory against modern day militant feminism is convincing the majority of men, not just the elite guys with looks/game/status (a minority), that they are better off alone than hitching up with some feminist twat. And ideally, they are actively rejecting feminist women and beliefs.

This is why I don't shit hard on MGTOW guys like some folks. I would prefer that they learn game and better themselves but checking out contributes positively to the fight too. By reducing the available pool of beta bucks and/or child support monies, these guys reduce options for undesirable women. Reducing options for undesirable women means:

1. More desirable women breeding/less potential malcontents to deal with down the line.

2. A clear warning sign to all young and impressionable women that if they act like a feminist twat, they are going to end up childless, alone, and no one will care about them. We see this in a lot of foreign countries where men haven't lost their balls yet.

We might be a lot closer to victory than we realize; cultural knowledge doesn't take a generation or two to sink in on a wide scale. It can be done in months or years thanks to cell phones and the internet; for better or worse.

I can envision a world a few years from now with a President Trump kicking ass and setting the cultural tone, Vasalgel (male birth control) works and is utilized by most men (no more accident babies/child support extractions), and red pill beliefs that were once under the surface have gone mainstream thanks to people like Roosh, Mike C, the forum, and countless others who have been laying the seeds for decade plus. The dating reality will change drastically for women and therefore, they will be forced to change. Not all will change but the up and comers and those a little less retarded will change course real quickly. The rest will largely die out over time although we need to make illegal lesbians and single women from being allow to be artificially inseminated to tie off any loose ends.

Thought you were going to get a feminist icon (Hillary Clinton) as a leader to give you more undeserved rights and privileges? Nope, go fuck yourself and earn it.

Thought you could trap a man with an "accident" baby and get a paycheck/government benefits for two decades? Nope, go fuck yourself. That man has Vasalgel. You will have to earn his consent and respect to have his seed, his lifestyle, and his money.

Thought you could go marry that beta loser looking dude with the decent job but do nothing to contribute to the family (cook/clean/etc) while acting like an entitled feminist twat? Nope, go fuck yourself. That beta guy has woken up and realized he could just hire out those services if needed. He doesn't need or want your bullshit. He saves his money for trips to Mexico now and women under 30.

Alas, it could also go the other way completely. But for now, there is still hope for a better tomorrow very soon. The day is darkest before the dawn.

Perfectly fine to not agree with that point of view but given the demographic rise of soy boys/fags/feminists throughout the world, advocating for one method in how to stop the trend is valid. Calling it MGTOW is probably the wrong term to use given how many people view it today; call it GAWD (Going Alone with Dignity) or whatever, but the bottom line for me is this: The less nonredeemable weak men reproducing with shitty women, a better place the world will be.

Quote: (02-20-2019 05:07 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

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The less nonredeemable weak men reproducing with shitty women, a better place the world will be.

Unless the remainder are somehow willing to man the machine guns against demographic replacement then the absent Western "nonredeemable weak men" will simply be replaced with twice as many Eastern and African "nonredeemable weak men".

This is also the retarded premise that western environmentalism undertakes. For every resource we refuse to despoil without also protecting by force we simply offer to other less scrupulous peoples.

Collapsitarianism is becoming more appealing by the day because the longer the deep state keeps flooding our betas with enough estrogen than they become deltas the more likely it is that we're going to replaced en masse before the system crashes, at which point the dick-swinging Chads deemed worthy of breeding are simply going to be butchered South African style anyway.

Survival of the fittest is not going to work out well for Western Chads if they're unwilling-to or incapable-of enforcing their national territorial claims.

Betas are a natural and necessary part of the social ecosystem. It's the job of Alphas to lead them, secure the existence of the pack and reward said Betas to the degree necessary to keep them productive.

There never was, is, or will be a society composed only of Alphas. It simply doesn't work.

Quote: (02-20-2019 05:41 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (02-20-2019 05:07 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

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The less nonredeemable weak men reproducing with shitty women, a better place the world will be.

Unless the remainder are somehow willing to man the machine guns against demographic replacement then the absent Western "nonredeemable weak men" will simply be replaced with twice as many Eastern and African "nonredeemable weak men".

This is also the retarded premise that western environmentalism undertakes. For every resource we refuse to despoil without also protecting by force we simply offer to other less scrupulous peoples.

Collapsitarianism is becoming more appealing by the day because the longer the deep state keeps flooding our betas with enough estrogen than they become deltas the more likely it is that we're going to replaced en masse before the system crashes, at which point the dick-swinging Chads deemed worthy of breeding are simply going to be butchered South African style anyway.

Survival of the fittest is not going to work out well for Western Chads if they're unwilling-to or incapable-of enforcing their national territorial claims.

Betas are a natural and necessary part of the social ecosystem. It's the job of Alphas to lead them, secure the existence of the pack and reward said Betas to the degree necessary to keep them productive.

There never was, is, or will be a society composed only of Alphas. It simply doesn't work.

You're really overthinking this I think.

I didn't say all betas shouldn't breed. I used the term "nonredeemable" for a specific reason.

I said betas (or any man for that matter) that want to breed should not reproduce with shitty women.

Weak minded beta + shitty woman = usually shitty kids.

More shitty kids = more problems in greater society = guys starting threads on the forum saying crazy shit advocating for taking entire genders rights away.

If enough betas had some basic dignity about the women they reproduce with, it would help with improving some societal problems since it would send a message via action that these shitty women can't count on some beta bucks to bail them out.

This would have an effect on the next generation of woman who see a bunch of childless/unmarried shitty women and would hopefully act accordingly (i.e. the way we want woman to act like) to attract a man; including beta men since they are not putting up with the bullshit anymore.

The whole premise of this thread originally was to take women's rights away to get control over the madness. All I'm saying is that if men stop having kids with cunts, a lot of the problems that have been discussed in this thread would work themselves out eventually.

Quote: (02-18-2019 01:09 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

Quote: (02-18-2019 01:05 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

...as if a religion could be planned out on an obscure message board by a bunch of angry, charisma-less autists.

It worked for L Ron Hubbard.

Quote of the day so far.

I hear there's a couple Heaven's Gate dopes that were ordered to stick around for some damned reason or another, I forget what exactly.