This is like S. Korea's program where they issue a special visa (E-9) to people from 15 Asian countries that allows them to work there for five years. It's restricted to people between the ages of 18-38 with no criminal records, a clean bill of health and the business permit and hiring confirmation letter from the Korean company that hired them. A couple of problems are that some disappear into the underground and some find the job they worked there doesn't translate to whatever's available at home. Not perfect but far better than the free for all we have in the west.

I would not be worried. I have doubts they will even fill that quota along the 5 years.

Recently saw some survey, an immigration ranking, I believe it was for Filipinos and had dozens of countries they traditionally migrate to. Japan was dead last. It is simply not a very migrant friendly country, honestly, it is often quite "hostile" in terms of work-life balance to its own citizens, so it somewhat "makes sense" it would be even worse for immigrants.

Japan is seriously overcrowded as well. Think about this: Japan and Russia have a similar population except Japan is 45 times smaller. They need more people like I need a freaking hole in my head.

Why do whites like Japan so much? What about Pearl Harbour and the Sandakan death marches? No one thinks of Japanese as savages despite the raping of Nanking.

Quote: (12-09-2018 02:46 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

Why do whites like Japan so much? What about Pearl Harbour and the marches of death?

Great food, pleasant women, amazing culture and an all-around beautiful country.

The Japanese also are not grudge-holders, and for the most part they've forgotten about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Pearl Harbor has no relevance anymore, either. Let sleeping dogs lie.

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Just an example of several campaigns by the Japanese government to repopulate countryside areas, they have millions of vacant houses, they're even giving some away for free in countryside locations, which naturally require a lot of work and repairs done on then. Their problem is not as much the depopulation itself, it's the death of entire communities.

I would not want to live long term in Japan, unless I was self employed, but as I understand it, that's not easy to do as a foreigner, unless you come in with something successful from the outside.

Quote: (12-09-2018 02:42 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Japan is seriously overcrowded as well. Think about this: Japan and Russia have a similar population except Japan is 45 times smaller. They need more people like I need a freaking hole in my head.

Its not necessarily about more people, but being able to dictate where the people go. If foreign workers in healthcare get a visa, it will be to the countryside areas where elders are heading into long term care. That demographic arc is going to need care now, and robots are not quite there yet.

For the Japanese young people, its almost impossible to avoid the suction of Tokyo and Osaka. That region has more people than they know what to do with, but a 45min train ride out of those regions puts you into some sad areas with abandoned schools and vacant homes.

In an odd twist, it has been foreigners that have made some small towns cool. Some young guys get sent to the countryside to teach English in the JET program, fall in love with a girl and rave about it online. It becomes a bit of a magnet for teachers, Japanese wives to foreign men hook up some of their friends with single foreigners and one of the foreigners opens a pub and next thing you know there is a small but growing demographic of 30yo's with families. I certainly noticed that in places with good access like Shonan and Nagano. Beautiful, picturesque little towns with 0% crime and an aging population.

Sometimes it takes westerners ideas to show the Japanese that there is another way. And part of me thinks demographics is one of these things.

A country that has been in a recession for 25 years is not an attractive destination for skilled foreign employees. I personally like to keep an eye on Japan since it is a pioneer in the adaptation of technology, and is a sign of things to come.

Quote: (12-09-2018 02:49 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Great food, pleasant women, amazing culture and an all-around beautiful country.

The Japanese also are not grudge-holders, and for the most part they've forgotten about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Pearl Harbor has no relevance anymore, either. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Grudge-holding? You must be joking. On what possible grounds could the Japanese be holding a grudge? They should be bowing down and kissing the feet of every white man that comes near their vicinity given the circumstances under which the war started, their conduct and atrocities during it, their total and absolute defeat at the hands of the Americans, and the miraculously merciful treatment they received upon their surrender.

The war ended when the Americans had almost completely defeated Japanese conventional forces and in a final coup the grace split the fucking atom in the skies over Japanese cities. It was perhaps the most dramatic, complete, overwhelming victory one people had ever achieved over another. What the Americans could have- and in my opinion should have-done upon their victory is completely tear down Japanese elites and replace them with a kind of feudal system where the lords are all Western expatriates. The Japanese economy should have been de-industrialized and reduced to subsistence agriculture and cottage industries. The whole island should have been turned into a hybrid of 'air strip one' and pussy paradise.

If you think that's harsh imagine the fate of our people under Japanese rule should the war have ended with a correspondingly complete Japanese victory. Given that the Americans defeated the Japanese in a war the Japs started and instead of punishing them gave them self rule and brought them the greatest prosperity they have ever enjoyed, the notion that the Japanese are "not holding a grudge" as some kind of demonstration of great character is perhaps the most insane, laughable thing I've ever heard.

PS: And for what it's worth, I love the Japanese and bear them no ill will. It's just that logically and historically speaking, when you defeat the enemy totally then you are basically justified in doing with them whatever you want under Natural Law. The Japanese certainly felt this way, given their war crimes, "comfort women," and other innumerable atrocities they committed without even waiting to see if they'd actually win the war. "Vae victis" is the rule not the exception and the Japanese are lucky to have been occupied by white Westerners and not Chinese, Arabs, or let alone Africans.

Quote: (12-09-2018 10:29 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  

Grudge-holding? You must be joking. On what possible grounds could the Japanese be holding a grudge? They should be bowing down and kissing the feet of every white man that comes near their vicinity given the circumstances under which the war started, their conduct and atrocities during it, their total and absolute defeat at the hands of the Americans, and the miraculously merciful treatment they received upon their surrender.

Jesus.... take it easy Chuck Norris.

You sound like a sociopath.

Quote: (12-09-2018 10:48 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Quote: (12-09-2018 10:29 PM)Higgs Bosun Wrote:  

Grudge-holding? You must be joking. On what possible grounds could the Japanese be holding a grudge? They should be bowing down and kissing the feet of every white man that comes near their vicinity given the circumstances under which the war started, their conduct and atrocities during it, their total and absolute defeat at the hands of the Americans, and the miraculously merciful treatment they received upon their surrender.

Jesus.... take it easy Chuck Norris.

You sound like a sociopath.

Nice ad hominem. Still, I'll take sociopath over 'fucking moron' which fits you nicely.

Quote: (12-09-2018 02:49 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Quote: (12-09-2018 02:46 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

Why do whites like Japan so much? What about Pearl Harbour and the marches of death?

Great food, pleasant women, amazing culture and an all-around beautiful country.

The Japanese also are not grudge-holders, and for the most part they've forgotten about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Pearl Harbor has no relevance anymore, either. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Complete BS, deep down their is a hatred towards the Americans.

Dropping bombs of that magnitude on innocent civilians is fuckery of the highest order.

Quote: (12-08-2018 03:32 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Complete BS, deep down their is a hatred towards the Americans.

Dropping bombs of that magnitude on innocent civilians is fuckery of the highest order.

Yeah I don't think any of them think about that, or care. Post WW2 the US engaged in mass brainwashing of the highest order and it was pretty successful.
You can go into any major Japanese bookstore and see lots of books from the right-wing bitching about the brainwashing performed by the GHQ (MacArthur's post-war government), books that as far as I know, nobody really reads.

It's ancient, ancient history at this point. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there are middle school students in Japan right now who don't know that World War 2 happened.

Quote: (12-09-2018 02:46 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

Why do whites like Japan so much? What about Pearl Harbour and the Sandakan death marches? No one thinks of Japanese as savages despite the raping of Nanking.

Cause Japanese folk are rather well civilized.
I once read that during the Apartheid years of South Africa. Japanese folk could get around equivalent to that of white folk due to their viable nature & conduct.

Also, why worry about Imperial Japanese from ~70 years ago, when it is the Chinese today who are willing & able to use & abuse Africa...?

Quote: (12-09-2018 11:01 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Dropping bombs of that magnitude on innocent civilians is fuckery of the highest order.

So is performing un-anaesthetised vivisections on prisoners of war for shits and giggles, but I don't think many Americans are holding a grudge (the Chinese are another story). I love Japan, but when it comes to the question of whose behaviour was more atrocious during WW2, there is no comparison. Also the notion that killing civilians is somehow worse than killing soldiers when the ranks are filled with conscripts is daft.

There could only be so many more years where Japan goes on printing money and restricting immigrants with nothing bad happening until the rest of the world's people thinks "heh - look at that - a happy, healthy country"

Guess they're going with the more civilized "bring in some immigrants to blame our success on" than the "wait for the globalists to destroy us" option.

With Japans debt to GDP ratio where it currently is, they could be letting the globalists know that they are holding a financial bomb. Keep in mind its the Japanese culture to be able to cut ties with the world and isolate themselves if need be. Forfeit their debt, shut their doors and wait out the domino effect that would inevitably happen.

They don't need to import anything if it came down to it. The people would work together to survive and they would still be around to pick up the pieces while the rest of the world shit themselves. I have a bit of mind to think this might be their plan anyway.

I wonder how much of this is due to American pressure? Isn't Japan basically a vassal state?

Quote: (12-10-2018 01:28 PM)Ocelot Wrote:  

Quote: (12-09-2018 11:01 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Dropping bombs of that magnitude on innocent civilians is fuckery of the highest order.

So is performing un-anaesthetised vivisections on prisoners of war for shits and giggles, but I don't think many Americans are holding a grudge (the Chinese are another story). I love Japan, but when it comes to the question of whose behaviour was more atrocious during WW2, there is no comparison. Also the notion that killing civilians is somehow worse than killing soldiers when the ranks are filled with conscripts is daft.

Actually, there is. Problem is, the truth is written by the victors.

Here's a red pill for you: far more Christian Germans were exterminated in Allied death camps after the war ended in 1945-50 than Jews actually died in Nazi camps. This was part of the Morgenthau Plan to destroy what was left of Germany in 1945. In fact more German civilians were exterminated in 24 hours at Dresden (which was not a military target) than Jews ever died in Auschwitz.

Not to exonerate Jap WW2 crimes, but the Allies were no better in terms of crimes against humanity.

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I tried Japan for a month before settling on Korea. The jobs pretty much pay the same except Korea's cost of living is lower (the savings on Gmarket are pretty crazy) and most homes are provided / subsidized (whereas it's rare to get that deal in Japan and Taiwan these days. This is likely because of the Jeonse system which makes it rare for a landlord to want to rent to a broke foreigner. So the company has to arrange the housing).

Yes this was even true for most of the foreigners I met at my Church (and they were from Nepal / India / Vietnam / Mongolia. Not English Teachers).

So I really don't know how Japan will pull off attracting more migrant workers when there's better options for migrants out there. Someone can chase the bigger bucks in Australia. Korea does alright for saving. Taiwan's weather is nice year round. Japan isn't offering a big advantage except cultural (aka Weaboos who love anime so they'll put up with exploitation to live in Japan).

Quote: (12-10-2018 05:27 PM)911 Wrote:  

Here's a red pill for you: far more Christian Germans were exterminated in Allied death camps after the war ended in 1945-50 than Jews actually died in Nazi camps. This was part of the Morgenthau Plan to destroy what was left of Germany in 1945. In fact more German civilians were exterminated in 24 hours at Dresden (which was not a military target) than Jews ever died in Auschwitz.

Not to exonerate Jap WW2 crimes, but the Allies were no better in terms of crimes against humanity.

I was talking specifically about the conflict between America and Japan—obviously, in the grand scheme of things everyone knows that the only real war crime is losing.

The Japanese already got their revenge, they've unleashed anime onto the world

Quote: (12-09-2018 11:01 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Quote: (12-09-2018 02:49 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Quote: (12-09-2018 02:46 PM)Pride male Wrote:  

Why do whites like Japan so much? What about Pearl Harbour and the marches of death?

Great food, pleasant women, amazing culture and an all-around beautiful country.

The Japanese also are not grudge-holders, and for the most part they've forgotten about Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Pearl Harbor has no relevance anymore, either. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Complete BS, deep down their is a hatred towards the Americans.

Dropping bombs of that magnitude on innocent civilians is fuckery of the highest order.

More people died in the conventional bombing of Tokyo than in either Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Why is it worse to kill civilians with one huge bomb than to kill an even greater number in a span of a few hours with thousands of small bombs? That's pure hamster logic.

The psychological effect of a-bombs saved a million Allied lives, probably 5-10 million Japanese lives, and almost certainly saved Japan from being partitioned with the northern half of the country under brutal Soviet occupation the way Korea and Germany were. The real-life demonstration also helped prevent a full-fledged shooting war between the US and USSR that would have killed more tens of millions. You could make a pretty convincing argument that nuclear weapons have saved more lives than almost any other invention in human history--up there with penicillin and modern sanitation.