Quote: (12-08-2018 10:26 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I don't know what your ethnic group is. Probably Indian given the race trolling.

Well does seem to take an unusually high interest in demoralizing white folk, subtle defence/misdirection of Jewish criticism and attempts to ridicule the JQ as tin foil conspiracy.


A quote of his from another thread that seemed out of place in response to a guy coming to the realization his country is lost and there is nothing he can do about it.

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Quote: (12-03-2018 02:23 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (12-03-2018 07:26 AM)Chiosboy90 Wrote:  

When I went to a mall with my girl here in Switzerland, she told me: "This is the most disgusting place I have ever seen in my life, you are the only Swiss guy here...Jesus".

Keeping bitches out of the mall is a good thing...

So what I'm hearing here is that all the money Hitler stole from the Jews and buried in the Swiss banks is now being spent to support the Muslims. Talk about coming full circle.

Aloha!

You could take a good guess to who he really is and you can be sure there are many more like him prowling this forum.

Quote: (12-08-2018 06:02 PM)for.petes.sake Wrote:  

The Americas was one of the newest lands discovered by man (man crossed the Bering strait into the America only 10000 years ago) and they had no access to the other continents.

First of all, there was no civilization anywhere 10.000 years ago.

Europe was under a sheet of ice.

"Had no access to other continents"

North America and South America are not different continents?

The Americas spanned multiple large and different civilizations:

Incas
Aztecs
Mayans
Iroquis

and many more. All had advanced social structures and farming. Every opportunity was there to create a proper modern civilization.

The problem is that for some reason, these civilizations never achieved any higher form of philosophy above "might makes right".

Example, the Mayans, had advanced astronomy, yet only used it for cheap parlor tricks by the elites. They'd basically predict sun/moon occultation and scare the peasants into thinking the god was angry.

Likewise, the Inca had intricate silver working, yet never moved beyond essentially stone age weapons and tools.

Lastly, the Aztecs subdued all their nations, allowing them the base to build a proper empire. However, they squandered that opportunity by enslaving thousands (millions?) for ritual sacrifice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sacr...ec_culture

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Some post-conquest sources report that at the re-consecration of Great Pyramid of Tenochtitlan in 1487, the Aztecs sacrificed about 80,400 prisoners over the course of four days.

Aztec delenda est, the Aztec had to be destroyed and they were, for the barbaric, sadistic perverts that they were.

Why did the Aztecs spend their great power in mindless bloodlust? Why not use those 80.000 as slaves to build the Keops pyramid?

I think if we answer that, then we know why there was no proper civilization in America.

After being a Genghis Khan aficionado for decades, I've now learned from this thread that he's in fact a white man and his Golden Hordes should've been called Vanilla Hordes instead.

Have your white pride any way you like, just don't create fake history to claim other people as yours. It's not like you lack real amazing people and achievements!

They say Mohammad was "ruddy" as well.

Quote: (12-08-2018 06:09 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (12-08-2018 10:26 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

The reason for this so fucking obvious I shouldn't even have to lay it out. Any sort of white-centric group get hounded by the media, and portrayed as nazis working the next final solution. Net result is nobody joins for fear of losing their jobs/reputation, and they get no funding. So of course they're not really able to make any impact. This isn't a reflection on white nationalism. It's a reflection on the (((powers at be))) who view the ideology as extremely dangerous.

Since it's so obvious, can you name this group, please?

Make sure they only care about pride within themselves, and could completely care less about any other people except for those of pure European heritage.

I'll wait.

Aloha!

I know that it goes against the very essence of your being, but try not to be so goddamn disingenuous. Your proviso is a jest.

Of course it's impossible for any racially aware white man to "completely care less [sic]" about your people, considering that they're actively working to destroy the ethnic and cultural unity of every European and Anglosphere nation. And as we all know, they're primarily bringing about said destruction by importing (or relocating on a domestic level) millions of non-whites which, in turn, also have to be taken into consideration.

At this point in the game, expecting racially aware white men to "completely care less [sic]" about identity politics would be the equivalent of telling Jews to pay no mind to those National Socialists in 1933 and just go about their daily business and things will surely end up well.

L'chaim!

There was a lack of domesticated animals. I suppose it would be hard to build a modern civilization with llamas and guinea pigs.

This is incredible - there was contact between ancients Greek and Chinese civilisations:








War of the Heavenly Horses

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The War of the Heavenly Horses was a military conflict fought between the forces of the Han Empire and the Kingdom of Dayuan in about 104–101 BC. The Emperor Wu of Han had received reports of the tall and powerful horses ("heavenly horses") in the possession of the Dayuan, which were of capital importance to fight the nomad Xiongnu. The refusal of the Dayuan to offer them enough horses along with a series of conflicts and mutual disrespect resulted in the death of the Chinese ambassador and the confiscation of the gold sent as payment for the horses.

In response, the Emperor sent out Li Guangli, the brother of his favorite concubine, with 6,000 horsemen and 20,000 infantry soldiers.[1] Li's army had to cross the Taklamakan Desert and his supplies soon ran out. After a gruesome march of over 1,000 miles he finally arrived to the country of Dayuan, but what remained of his army was exhausted and starving.[1] Li lost many men along the way in petty fights with local rulers. After a severe defeat at a place called Yucheng, Li concluded that he was not strong enough to take the enemy capital and therefore returned to Dunhuang about 102 BC.

Emperor Wu responded by giving Li Guangli a much larger army along with a huge number of oxen, donkeys and camels to carry supplies. With this force he had no difficulty reaching Khujand (called Ershi 貳師 by the Chinese), the Dayuan capital. He lost half his army during the march,[1] but after a 40-day siege the Chinese had broken through the outer wall and cut off the water supply. The nobles of Ershi killed their king and sent his head to Li Guangli, offering the Chinese all the horses they wanted. Li accepted the offer, appointed one of the nobles to be the new king and withdrew with a tribute of 3,000 horses.[1] On his return journey all the petty states accepted Chinese sovereignty. He reached the Jade Gate about 100 BC with 10,000 men and 1,000 horses.

Who are the Dayuan?

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Dayuan (Ta-yuan; Old Chinese reconstructed pronunciation: /dhaːts ʔwan/; Middle Chinese reconstructed pronunciation according to Edwin G. Pulleyblank: /daj ʔuan/; Chinese: 大宛; pinyin: Dàyuān; Wade–Giles: Ta4-yuan1; literally: "Great Ionians") was a country in Ferghana valley in Central Asia, described in the Chinese historical works of Records of the Grand Historian and the Book of Han. It is mentioned in the accounts of the famous Chinese explorer Zhang Qian in 130 BCE and the numerous embassies that followed him into Central Asia. The country of Dayuan is generally accepted as relating to the Ferghana Valley, and its Greek city Alexandria Eschate (modern Khujand, Tajikistan).

These Chinese accounts describe the Dayuan as urbanized dwellers with Caucasian features, living in walled cities and having "customs identical to those of the Greco-Bactrians", a Hellenistic kingdom that was ruling Bactria at that time in today's northern Afghanistan. The Dayuan are also described as manufacturers and great lovers of wine.[1]

The Dayuan were probably the descendants of the Greek colonists that were settled by Alexander the Great in Ferghana in 329 BCE (see Alexandria Eschate), and prospered within the Hellenistic realm of the Seleucids and Greco-Bactrians, until they were isolated by the migrations of the Yuezhi around 160 BCE. It appears that the name "Yuan" was simply a transliteration of Sanskrit Yavana or Pali Yona, used throughout antiquity in Asia to designate Greeks ("Ionians"), so that Dayuan would mean "Great Ionians".

Characters for Dayuan, associating the character for "Great", and a character originally depicting two persons seated under one roof, but used for its sound value here. It is pronounced "yuan" instead of the more usual "wan".

The interaction between the Dayuan and the Chinese is historically crucial, since it represents one of the first major contacts between an urbanized Western civilization and the Chinese civilization, opening the way to the formation of the Silk Road that was to link the East and the West in material and cultural exchange from the 1st century BCE to the 15th century.

Has this forum turned into the White Pride forum or The White Race Troll (WRT) forum? The former I would have been perfectly fine with. It's the latter that's causing a divide. Multiple race trolling threads like this keep popping up created by members no one has met or vouched for. So the credible members have distanced themselves.

At least the IRTs get banned quickly for this type of trolling. What a cesspool of misplaced frustration.

Can't these guys just destroy reddit or some other forum instead?

Kona, I wouldn't waste my time brother.

Quote: (12-08-2018 10:22 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

Has this forum turned into the White Pride forum or The White Race Troll (WRT) forum? The former I would have been perfectly fine with. It's the latter that's causing a divide. Multiple race trolling threads like this keep popping up created by members no one has met or vouched for. So the credible members have distanced themselves.

At least the IRTs get banned quickly for this type of trolling. What a cesspool of misplaced frustration.

Can't these guys just destroy reddit or some other forum instead?

Kona, I wouldn't waste my time brother.

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Quote: (11-30-2018 08:13 AM)Horus Wrote:  

This is an interesting topic. The origin of our species is fascinating, but natural selection is not a politically correct process. Before anybody jumps on the bandwagon to accuse the op of race trolling, remember that he's looking for a discussion of the facts. He might be completely wrong and you might be able to prove this. But telling him to shut up because what he's saying doesn't feel nice to you can only lead to the suspicion that he's completely correct.

There has actually been some good discussion here, with both sides either supporting or refuting the OP using reason and evidence. The only real frustration and negativity has come from those who drop by just to make allegations of trolling.

Makes me wonder why people check into a thread like this only to say something like "man y'all need to get a life smh". What's the point? The people who agree with the OP see through you and the people who disagree don't need your help.

Quote: (12-08-2018 10:22 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

Has this forum turned into the White Pride forum or The White Race Troll (WRT) forum? The former I would have been perfectly fine with.
It's the latter that's causing a divide.

Come on now..we all know that's not true.

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Multiple race trolling threads like this keep popping up created by members no one has met or vouched for. So the credible members have distanced themselves

Actually, I've met up with several members here. And I can't help but notice the irony of you trolling the supposed race troll thread. By the looks of it, many people are fascinated by the discussion. If you're so troubled by it, there are plenty of other threads you can participate in.

Lastly, I admitted in the OP that the title was half trolling..ie humor used to create a discussion. I'm not a hardliner on the Neanderthal DNA hypotheses, I just think their level of advancement was interesting and relatively ignored. But I'm open to other explanations for why Europeans are so dominant. Maybe you could contribute to that discussion instead of derailing the thread with red herrings.

Quote: (12-08-2018 03:25 AM)Jaxon Wrote:  

The one legitimate aspect of modern white nationalism is in combating the migrant crisis in Europe. But even that isn't really "white" nationalism as many groups like the EDL (and other British conservatives) want less Eastern European immigration as well.

That isn't true re: EDL (at least when Robinson was at the helm). But that said, you shouldn't have been banned. Talk about creating an echo chamber. It seems everyone who isn't alt right/that way leaning gets banned these days. I'll live, but it's not something I support.

^Guess we should let homosexuals and women on the forum as well to get more diversity of opinions.

Quote: (12-08-2018 08:53 PM)66Scorpio Wrote:  

There was a lack of domesticated animals. I suppose it would be hard to build a modern civilization with llamas and guinea pigs.

What?

They already had massive pyramids:



Massive empires





They built huge stone monuments. What exactly would a cow have done different when you can already build that?



Of course, it's quite likely that Bearded Gods built those.

There are, after all, red haired mummies galore in pre-Inca Peru:



There are, after all, blue eyed wooden funeral masks from the Wari culture (pre-inca Peru):



And those blue eyed wooden masks, well they look suspiciously like those in Sumer:



This is all a big coincidence though.

Something something, no horse or cow.

Quote: (12-06-2018 05:26 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

Quote: (12-06-2018 04:09 PM)Kona Wrote:  

First off, whatever you used to translate what I said sucks.

Second, here's the exact same argument. Your support for white pride has just as much to do with the fact, if not more, that other groups have their own pride. "Hey they got black pride, well that's not fair!" If you want to have pride, have it. Pride in yourself should have nothing to do with anybody else.

And yeah, the white man has lost some identity over the last few years. That's his fault. No reason there to lash out at other groups that haven't.

Maybe the definition of PRIDE is what people aren't understanding.

Either way, I hope all of you have a nice day.

Aloha!

Quote: (12-06-2018 04:42 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Aw dude come on...

Look at the history of what white pride groups have done in the United States in the last 50 years. Gimme a break. The cries of xenophobia or whatever are your own damn fault. Have any white pride organizations ever caused any headaches for any groups of non whites? And again, look at how much this talk of white pride actually involves other groups. Read what you yourself are writing.

Look, here's the German Club of Hawaii: http://www.germanclubhawaii.com/

Now are they white supremacists, absolutely not. They want to get together and dance around in October. They want to celebrate their heritage. Great. The second they say "and fuck those other guys" then there's a problem. But they don't because they are too busy preserving their own identity.

Aloha!

Disclaimer: This is the first and probably last time I'll give out two posts of the day at once.

In a single fell swoop you have recklessly abused market values and diminished the value of the day by 50%.

It's exactly this kind of short-sighted cut-and-run mentality among immigrants that is causing the Western decline.

Quote: (12-09-2018 10:02 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

^Guess we should let homosexuals and women on the forum as well to get more diversity of opinions.

I've been on the forum for over five years, you five months. I've met Roosh, you haven't. I've met many members in real life, you zero.

If you direct snarky comments at me, expect it back.

Edit: the fact you're openly advocating for an echo chamber shows you to be an intellectually-limited blow hard.

Quote: (12-09-2018 10:23 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

Quote: (12-09-2018 10:02 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

^Guess we should let homosexuals and women on the forum as well to get more diversity of opinions.

I've been on the forum for over five years, you five months. I've met Roosh, you haven't. I've met many members in real life, you zero. Stop before you embarrass yourself.

If you respond to me with snarky comments, expect it back.

It was snarky, but it wasn't a red herring like the above. (And I have met with members here.)

The idea that the more opinions there are the merrier is fallacious. There's a reason Roosh doesn't want women, gays, trannies,etc. on the forum. They don't add to the discussion and their presence would be toxic.

So it is with leftwing trolls who can't make it to post 50 without getting involved in every single race thread, usually with some sort of anti-white rhetoric.

Edit: You edited your post 3 times while I was typing this, so fair to say I kind of got under your skin.

Anyway, you use the term "echo chamber" as a jab (and granted it has negative connotations - which it shouldn't). This forum IS an echo chamber of men..ie..Manosphere. Overwhelmingly right wing men for obvious reasons. It seems that bothers you.

Fact is we all have freedom of association. This is a privately owned space. If the mods want to ban lefty blowhards - then I say good on them.

For my purposes, I would have liked the opportunity to give jaxon a couple more smackdowns but alas I'm sure he'll have a new account up next month.

You did get under my skin, no problem admitting that. Though all my points remain.

Regarding being "right wing": I've been involved in real-life right wing politics for over 10 years. And I'm real-life connected to people that get talked about on this forum regularly.

When you've met one single member is the moment you gain credibility with me, until them, I unfortunately reserve the right to caution.

Quote: (12-09-2018 10:13 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Quote: (12-06-2018 05:26 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

Quote: (12-06-2018 04:09 PM)Kona Wrote:  

First off, whatever you used to translate what I said sucks.

Second, here's the exact same argument. Your support for white pride has just as much to do with the fact, if not more, that other groups have their own pride. "Hey they got black pride, well that's not fair!" If you want to have pride, have it. Pride in yourself should have nothing to do with anybody else.

And yeah, the white man has lost some identity over the last few years. That's his fault. No reason there to lash out at other groups that haven't.

Maybe the definition of PRIDE is what people aren't understanding.

Either way, I hope all of you have a nice day.

Aloha!

Quote: (12-06-2018 04:42 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Aw dude come on...

Look at the history of what white pride groups have done in the United States in the last 50 years. Gimme a break. The cries of xenophobia or whatever are your own damn fault. Have any white pride organizations ever caused any headaches for any groups of non whites? And again, look at how much this talk of white pride actually involves other groups. Read what you yourself are writing.

Look, here's the German Club of Hawaii: http://www.germanclubhawaii.com/

Now are they white supremacists, absolutely not. They want to get together and dance around in October. They want to celebrate their heritage. Great. The second they say "and fuck those other guys" then there's a problem. But they don't because they are too busy preserving their own identity.

Aloha!

Disclaimer: This is the first and probably last time I'll give out two posts of the day at once.

In a single fell swoop you have recklessly abused market values and diminished the value of the day by 50%.

It's exactly this kind of short-sighted cut-and-run mentality among immigrants that is causing the Western decline.

Also, Kona proudly describes himself as "polynesian", which literally means "of many islands", meaning it consists of many smaller nations claiming a single, distinct racial identity, yet he went into great detail about why white Americans shouldn't do same. Calling this nonsense "post of the day" is an assault on basic logic.

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You did get under my skin, no problem admitting that. Though all my points remain.

Regarding being "right wing": I've been involved in real-life right wing politics for over 10 years. And I'm real-life connected to people that get talked about on this forum regularly.

When you've met one single member is the moment you gain credibility with me, until them, I unfortunately reserve the right to caution.

For the 3rd time, I have met forum members. Brodiaga, WannaBang, Traveller, and couple others whose nicks I can't recall because I like gin too much.

Now that I have forum cred (feel a bit silly writing that), we can get back on topic.

Fair dues pal, my apologies not acknowledging that.

My points remain though, don't be snarky to people who have skin in the game and also know people you're unnecessarily dissing.

Quote: (12-09-2018 11:23 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

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You did get under my skin, no problem admitting that. Though all my points remain.

Regarding being "right wing": I've been involved in real-life right wing politics for over 10 years. And I'm real-life connected to people that get talked about on this forum regularly.

When you've met one single member is the moment you gain credibility with me, until them, I unfortunately reserve the right to caution.

For the 3rd time, I have met forum members. Brodiaga, WannaBang, Traveller, and couple others whose nicks I can't recall because I like gin too much.

Now that I have forum cred (feel a bit silly writing that), we can get back on topic.

That's interesting. I've met many members. Most have been a pleasure to meet with and some have turned into close friends. Almost every time I have made it a point to log in and ensure I give the member a rep point if they were cool and had good character in my opinion. I believe they have done the same for me. Collectively, I believe we have built up not only our own credibility and also elevated the credibility of the forum by offering advice, helping others and even providing our own resources in a time of need.

There are however a few members I met that failed to make any impact, were socially inept or came across as IRTs or WRTs that I did not rep for obvious reasons.

You have not a single rep point from any of these people you claim you have met. I mean ZERO. With that many members you failed to make an impact. Neither have you added any value except troll the forum with various race related topics. These are facts. Maybe you just had too much gin like you said, but that's just speculation.

So before you claim credibility all by your little self, maybe you can get that from some well repped members instead that have actually added value to the forum.

I know Brodiaga. Good guy that I have met a few times. Maybe you can start there. Until then, maybe stay a while and add some value before you devalue what credibility means.

No one here has much respect for juniors who come along swinging at those that have been here for a while and care about the forum.

I'll respond to the rest of yours and some other's posts when I have a chance to get away from my real life and come back to my dusty keyboard.

Edit: Wow Leonard decided to contribute maybe post number 5 to the day to this thread. Surprise.

I'm not going to argue forum cred with you.

1.) It further derails the thread (your goal no doubt).

2.) It's childish, and I just really don't care.

Having some green digits next to your name doesn't alter the fact that you have you've brought nothing but red herrings to this thread. For somebody who supposedly has a "real life", you sure spend a lot of time puffing out your internet forum credentials. It makes it hard for me to take you seriously honestly.

^And proves my point.

You cared about forum cred just 24 hours ago or so and even mentioned some specific members you may have met to allude that you did.

However, now that I questioned you, now you don't care at all and it's turned childish. Got it.

Unbelievable that some feel entitled to control forum discourse because they formed a clique or hold greater easily manipulated forum cred numbers.

Such forum culture is very vulnerable to subversion by organized shills.

"Organised shills". Ha, give me a break. Meeting members in real life is the most highly regarded action on here for a reason... it tells people you are who you say you are. That you're disparaging of it speaks volumes.