A pocketbook is a thing women carry to tote their stuff around.
I guess you could also call it a purse.
I guess you could also call it a purse.
Quote: (12-03-2018 09:26 AM)James Bond Next level Wrote:
Game
Chasing sluts and chasing potential wife is very different. First, a boner test is not sufficient for a potential wife. So get used to less sets, less sex (until you meet a partner of course) and way more screening from you. Prior of meeting her, I would suggest you make a list of what you really want (and need) of her. Forget the futile and keep the bare minimum on it so you will have a strong basis of comparison.
Also, less bad boy attitudes and more comprehension. But what will make the players here shake is time: take it to get to know the girl more deeply and don't rush sex on date 1. I'm not saying to develop oneitis but still.
Where to meet a potential partner changes too. Forget tinder, clubs and most of bars. Daygame or social circle seems like the best
Quote: (12-04-2018 11:32 AM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:
My analogy here is that you need to play a volume game continually in life, because it creates abundance, and an abundant mindset is where you get to find the gems in women, in business, and everything else. You have choice. You get to pick and choose who and what stays in your life. You're not going to find your 'wife' without going through 1000, 2000, hell maybe 10,000 girls (I'm not saying you need to bang 1000 girls, but in your lifetime, I'm sure you've interacted with well over this number).
Quote: (12-04-2018 07:33 PM)Jozi Wrote:
Quote: (12-04-2018 11:32 AM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:
My analogy here is that you need to play a volume game continually in life, because it creates abundance, and an abundant mindset is where you get to find the gems in women, in business, and everything else. You have choice. You get to pick and choose who and what stays in your life. You're not going to find your 'wife' without going through 1000, 2000, hell maybe 10,000 girls (I'm not saying you need to bang 1000 girls, but in your lifetime, I'm sure you've interacted with well over this number).
What happens when you go through 1000, 2000 or 10,000 girls is that instead of getting closer to finding a wife, you will get farther from it. Humans are not built to build relationships with thousands of people. If you do then nobody will ever be good enough. It gets confusing and our brains cannot handle it. And I think that is a problem for all of us who have been doing this for a long time. We know too much, have met too many women, had too many black pilling experiences and revelations. And now we look at every woman we meet with exceptional scrutiny and doubt.
We should have our doubts obviously. This is a very important decision and the odds are heavily stacked against us. But it makes me wonder if I am ever going to find one that ticks all my boxes. There is always some red flag or something that doesn't add up. Could be that in the world we live in today, a long happy marriage with a young virgin woman of comparable attractiveness to your own isn't possible. It's a pipe dream and will never happen. And with that, marriage in itself isn't possible. Because either you will have to date down and be unhappy, or you will have to settle for a woman who rode the cock carousel and got pumped and dumped by men more attractive than you.
I have had this dilemma in my mind for a while now. Can't fully know until all options have been exhausted though. But if all else fails, would you settle for something less than what you think you're worth? I will not. I can't. If I didn't fuck 300 girls already, maybe I could be happy with a tattooed thot with a loose vagina on her way of hitting the wall. I'm sure most men can, because they're happy they just have a hole to stick it in. But not me. It's too late for that. And my biggest fear is that there is no other alternative.
Quote: (12-04-2018 08:24 PM)HankMoody Wrote:
LTRs are easy to find. Most women actually desire them. Once you've banged a girl, getting her to settle is easy. Take her hiking, on a vacation, or cook her dinner. Call her "babe" in public. Be her boyfriend -- now she's your girlfriend.. It's so fucking easy. Suddenly she's got visions of the two of you on a magazine wearing matching flannels with a dog and a baby. You can make her cook you dinner while you smoke stogies with your boys and she'll love it. You can fart at will and do shit like "yo babe, I gotta take a call, go get my cellphone, it's in the bedroom. I can't get up from the couch because my back is stiff." The more un-egalatarian shit you do, the more she will like you.
It's pickup that's tough. At first, these girls expect you to be Jason Momoa from Game of Thrones.
Once you cross the barrier, you'll find yourself falling into LTRs rather than seeking them out.
Quote: (12-04-2018 08:24 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:
Quote: (12-04-2018 07:33 PM)Jozi Wrote:
Quote: (12-04-2018 11:32 AM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:
My analogy here is that you need to play a volume game continually in life, because it creates abundance, and an abundant mindset is where you get to find the gems in women, in business, and everything else. You have choice. You get to pick and choose who and what stays in your life. You're not going to find your 'wife' without going through 1000, 2000, hell maybe 10,000 girls (I'm not saying you need to bang 1000 girls, but in your lifetime, I'm sure you've interacted with well over this number).
What happens when you go through 1000, 2000 or 10,000 girls is that instead of getting closer to finding a wife, you will get farther from it. Humans are not built to build relationships with thousands of people. If you do then nobody will ever be good enough. It gets confusing and our brains cannot handle it. And I think that is a problem for all of us who have been doing this for a long time. We know too much, have met too many women, had too many black pilling experiences and revelations. And now we look at every woman we meet with exceptional scrutiny and doubt.
We should have our doubts obviously. This is a very important decision and the odds are heavily stacked against us. But it makes me wonder if I am ever going to find one that ticks all my boxes. There is always some red flag or something that doesn't add up. Could be that in the world we live in today, a long happy marriage with a young virgin woman of comparable attractiveness to your own isn't possible. It's a pipe dream and will never happen. And with that, marriage in itself isn't possible. Because either you will have to date down and be unhappy, or you will have to settle for a woman who rode the cock carousel and got pumped and dumped by men more attractive than you.
I have had this dilemma in my mind for a while now. Can't fully know until all options have been exhausted though. But if all else fails, would you settle for something less than what you think you're worth? I will not. I can't. If I didn't fuck 300 girls already, maybe I could be happy with a tattooed thot with a loose vagina on her way of hitting the wall. I'm sure most men can, because they're happy they just have a hole to stick it in. But not me. It's too late for that. And my biggest fear is that there is no other alternative.
I don't know about you, man, but on a daily basis, I meet at minimum 2-5 people (75% of those being women generally). In one year, I meet between 1000 and 2000 people. In one year. Of those, the amount of people that I actually build a relationship is probably at maximum 5-10.
What I am saying is that you need to be meeting a lot of people in your life, and filtering out the 99% that aren't worth your time or energy (not just women, but friends, business contacts, and those that can help you on your journey). Not once did I claim that you need to be fucking these women, or anything. But you need to be meeting them, and making decisions about who gets to stay and who you don't want around.
We get this rap about us that all women are trash, and I can see where it comes from. But come on man, if you're meeting 10 women a week, they're not going to be all bad. You're jaded, I'm jaded, but at the end of the day, you have to approach life like a puppy; optimistic and happy even though you may get kicked by the next person that you cross paths with. I get the negativity, but life's too short.
Quote: (12-04-2018 08:31 PM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:
Quote: (12-04-2018 08:24 PM)HankMoody Wrote:
LTRs are easy to find. Most women actually desire them. Once you've banged a girl, getting her to settle is easy. Take her hiking, on a vacation, or cook her dinner. Call her "babe" in public. Be her boyfriend -- now she's your girlfriend.. It's so fucking easy. Suddenly she's got visions of the two of you on a magazine wearing matching flannels with a dog and a baby. You can make her cook you dinner while you smoke stogies with your boys and she'll love it. You can fart at will and do shit like "yo babe, I gotta take a call, go get my cellphone, it's in the bedroom. I can't get up from the couch because my back is stiff." The more un-egalatarian shit you do, the more she will like you.
It's pickup that's tough. At first, these girls expect you to be Jason Momoa from Game of Thrones.
Once you cross the barrier, you'll find yourself falling into LTRs rather than seeking them out.
This is my point in my initial post.
You don't seek our LTRs, they just happen by the fact that you're a guy she likes and wants to spend time with. I usually have to shoot down girls that get attached after they've seen what I bring to the table. Most girls definitely want to be locked down by a high value guy.
The second that you start to be like "I want a relationship" is the second your pussy stream dries up and you're alone, because you reek of the desperation. She should be asking you to get into a relationship, not the other way around.
Quote: (12-04-2018 09:28 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:
So when you have a woman you've been with for 6-12 months, and no red flags have presented themselves, and you've already met her family on more than a few occasions... she seems to check all the boxes on your list, ONLY then perhaps you start thinking about a future with her.
To sum it up, you don't "hunt" or "search" for a wife. You find a wife through process of elimination.
Quote: (12-04-2018 07:00 PM)Jozi Wrote:
Quote: (12-03-2018 09:26 AM)James Bond Next level Wrote:
Game
Chasing sluts and chasing potential wife is very different....
Where to meet a potential partner changes too. Forget tinder, clubs and most of bars. Daygame or social circle seems like the best
...
So, the only way to really find out what the girl is made of, is to act the same way as you would if you just wanted a bang. You can mention that "in the future I probably want to settle down/have kids, but I'm in no rush and if it happens it'll happen when the time is right"...
Quote: (12-05-2018 01:10 AM)HankMoody Wrote:
Also, understand that an LTR will likely involve a girl who farts in her sleep, leaves her shoes in your living room, and leaves toothpaste in the sink. An LTR is lot of reality - who left dishes in the sink, who is doing laundry tonight, who is cooking, who left shoes where shoes not ought to be. When you get deeper, it also involves kids and joint finances.
Quote: (12-05-2018 01:33 AM)Spaniard88 Wrote:
Quote: (12-05-2018 01:10 AM)HankMoody Wrote:
Also, understand that an LTR will likely involve a girl who farts in her sleep, leaves her shoes in your living room, and leaves toothpaste in the sink. An LTR is lot of reality - who left dishes in the sink, who is doing laundry tonight, who is cooking, who left shoes where shoes not ought to be. When you get deeper, it also involves kids and joint finances.
You're LTR'ing the wrong girls if they're leaving shoes where you can trip and toothpaste in the sink. Same if you're spending any time debating who's washing dishes, doing laundry, and cooking.
Quote: (12-05-2018 07:34 AM)HankMoody Wrote:
Final point when it comes to LTRs...
I'm not saying you need to vacuum the house every night and finish your "honey do" list.
What I am saying is there is a bunch of regular shit. She's going to leave hair in your drain, eat the last few bites of your lo mein, and put her shoes in a place where you will trip on them. LTRs involve some level of cohabitation. It's like having a roommate except you bang and go do stuff together on the weekends. Sometimes it's cool, but sometimes they do really annoying shit.
When you're completely single you don't have to worry about it because you bang them and they go home. You can fuck them in your car in a parking lot, or even class it up and get a hotel room. Or maybe they just come over here and there but don't stay awhile.
On the other hand, when you do it right, she'll do your laundry, clean the dishes, and you'll never want for sex. Deep down, even the most hottest, feminist women want to be domesticated. If you provide a fun, secure household for her, she isn't going anywhere.
Usually the girls who come over "just to chill" end up moving in the LTR direction without you doing anything. You'll find that she ironed your shirts, did your dishes, hung up your ties, and changed the cat litter. All cool, but she is trying to get you into a LTR.
Then the question becomes whether you want to be in an LTR or continue to smash smoots. There is no wrong answer; just whatever your preference is.
Quote: (12-02-2018 03:16 PM)sharksfanguy88 Wrote:
"I'm in wife hunt mode now, because I don't want to be stressed out about it and rush it later". He pointed out to me that he very likely would want to date a girl at least 1-2 years before proposing - so if he meets his future wife today, he's married at 36. If he meets her in 2 years, he's 38. He argued that it's the single biggest, most important decision of your life. It's picking the person that you wake up next to for 40-100 years, it's picking the mother of your future children. Dudes spend decades on their careers and their bodies and their bank accounts - why is it so insane to think that finding the woman you'll be with forever might be worthy of a multiple year investment?
- Are you in wife hunting mode?
- Does your game change at all while in wife hunting mode? Do you approach less or more? Do you cut women off more frequently after the first day / first week / first month?
- Have you taken bigger and bigger steps to making this wife hunt mode investment? (changing cities, more gym time, new job, going out more etc.)
Would love your thoughts.