Here's my first attempt after reading your helpful posts. These two Algerian girls came to my shop to get a quote. One of them 4.5 the other one 6.5. We had a little chat. I was into the 6.5 one. Made eye contact quite a few times. After talking about business we kept chatting about Algeria and French. We kept making eye contact with the chick. She smiled a few times. They left and I went out with them. I said I want to learn French. The 6.5 said she's a French teacher. We exchanged numbers. We will meet up with the two for French soon. What do I do next?

Update:
She just texted me saying thank you for the conversation. We will plan something for the French lesson.

I've got my own agenda but if I spot a chick with a big pair of funbags I'm gonna go for the approach.

It goes from nothing further than a quick look to a number close.
I usually meet them at bus stops in the city and I should continue them a little longer than usual.

It is going to get warmer here so more Western European tourists are gonna come down under.

Quote: (09-13-2018 02:41 AM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  

Quote: (09-12-2018 09:36 AM)Checkmat Wrote:  

This comes up a lot when I post my approaches. Roosh's day game method says that she must ask at least one personal question in the convo, otherwise the number will likely go nowhere. She showed hardly any interest at all, no?

Roosh states that the odds are low. That is agreed.
But you were doing nice, and it went nowhere. Better try.

I've had a chat with a few other members here in private and they say many guys burn out from daygame by trying it once and never do it again.
It takes dedication, guts and whatever to keep doing it even with the relatively low ROI.

Of course it helps to diversify.

Ah fuck it just gotta post it here so my shame got carved in stone.

So on my way to my fencing class, sit in the metro and tune out the disgusting mass of Paris as usual. And on she appears.

She looked like an angel niggas believe me yyou i been in paris for 5 years saw all kinds of chicks that give Hollywood a run for their money. But dem all hoes first class with a million cockstare. The only one who doesn't i locked her down 3 years ago.

But this chick, she just got an angelic face and i cant help but stealing glances at her nervous like im boutta steal a police car.

Then she started crying.

That moment i was dead. And resurrected. Having been in the game long enough and been curved enough time my heart cold enough to power a cryotherapy complex. But seeing dem tears rolling down that angelic face i became bambi.

Of course since this is Paris, dis is like Gommoragh on drug. So she could be crying and everybody just pretended line nothing happened.

So i started frantically search my bag for a tissue kleenex like niggas searching the kitchen for last bit of kfc but nothing cept my dirty sport change. Fuck god and the devil why this not happen when i got my suit game on???

But i aint boutta deny 30000 years of evolution so when she get off the train i came over. Hey saw you crying you ok? There i was 5 days no shave looking like a ghoul smelling sweat and piss, while this girl look like she made of sparkle and sunshine. So damn pissed at myself i just wanted to say something nice and get out.

Worst part? She didn't curve me or cry rape like you d expect when a weird looking dude in armor approach you in the subway. She was smiling and looks like she wanted to say something but i was just so unprepared i just told her hope whatever happens you gonna be fine.

Now ya all know me i aint be white knighting no girl fact i dont even white knight my girlfriend. But the last time i saw an uncorrupted face like this girl was during my spritual retreat playing monk mode in a monastery that doesn't exist on the map.

Rambling finished. Next time just dont sweat it and pull real casanova game.

Recently I've got interested in direct approaches following the "London daygame model". Today I walked home from work and was in an expansive mood. When I got to the grocery store a blondie with braided hair and great posture got out of there. Instead of following her in the parking lot, I went up the next isle and went towards her when she was putting her stuff in the car.

Hey I couldn't help but notice you looked cute. You must be a dancer.
[Looked somewhat flattered] Noooooo
Then, a student
Yeah
I guess you study something artsy; you look hippie
Noooooo. Thank you.
OK have fun!

Approached a pair of arty looking chicks in federation square today. One had an interesting jacket on so I opened with that. Cute girls, but I was clearly not their type and they bailed to go look at art stuff.

Have been wanting to ask this cashier out for a while now, but never had the right opportunity. This time it was all clear, got chatting, laughed and when I asked her out for a drink, she laughed and said 'I'm married' with her arms out giggling. Had a laugh and parted on good terms.

Today I had meeting with girl I approached a week ago and I was in the centre some while before, so I wanted to make at least one approach before we meet.

I lost few opportunities, but fortunately I set up this minimum one approach, so I had to do it. So there was this pretty brunette standing at the square and eating something and I went directly. Everything was quite smooth, she even introduced herself to me, but in the end she showed me engagement ring.

Tomorrow I have day off at work and planning to do more approaches.

Shitty weather yesterday but hit the streets anyway. In the rain and the wind, with my completely fresh and utterly fashionable (not) umbrella. I did only two approaches, but the bizarre thing was that I got the worst blackout I've gotten in a long time on the first one.

She was a cute 7-7.5 girl walking next to me, listening to music. I went direct, told her I saw her and thought she was cute and after basic chit chat I went blank. We stood and looked at each other for the longest 2 seconds until she politely exited.

What I realized was, getting stuck is not really the problem because it will happen. Not having a fallback is. I remember this guy from the daygame.com team back when they were active saying to call it out when it happens. It won't necessarily save you, but it will keep you in set and may give you the chance for a comeback. Something to keep in mind.

^ What do you mean "call it out when it happens"?

Quote: (09-17-2018 10:55 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  

^ What do you mean "call it out when it happens"?

Admit that you have blacked out, something along the lines of "I wanted to talk to you but right now I feel I don't know what to say, do you ever get that?".

The whole idea is more general, being honest and direct about what state you're in when you're approaching. Another example: "I had a long day and I'm feeling tired but I had to come over and say hi because I saw you and thought you look great".

Beautyful brunette. I hit her at square directly. She was on her way home from work, so I joined her for her walk to tram. We had good chat, at the end I asked for her number and she said she isn´t sure if her boyfriend will like it.

My ratio of time/approached girls is horrible. I am not going for numbers, but quality, so even one girl is ok. But I am still losing a lot of chances and still thinking too much about people around.

Quote: (09-20-2018 01:38 PM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  

Beautyful brunette. I hit her at square directly. She was on her way home from work, so I joined her for her walk to tram. We had good chat, at the end I asked for her number and she said she isn´t sure if her boyfriend will like it.

My ratio of time/approached girls is horrible. I am not going for numbers, but quality, so even one girl is ok. But I am still losing a lot of chances and still thinking too much about people around.

My biggest sticking point as well.

The number of approaches becomes more irrelevant the more experienced you get. Somehow you develop a 6th sense and know how to filter the girls that you will click with.

But the spotlight effect also makes me miss a few chances or wait until it's not so crowded to approach.

In an aiport lounge a 23 year old light-skinned Jamaican starts talking to me. 'How was the flight', we have a great conversation, she's articulate and smart. It's going well. She's picking up her friend, I'm waiting for mine to pick me up. So I ask 'Would you like to join me for lunch or dinner' this weekend. She 'I am going to decline'. Of course, I should have said 'I'm going to a great restaurant for lunch on Sunday at 1 pm, perhaps you want to come'. Difference between knowing and doing the right thing.

A few days ago at the farmer's market. Petite brunette with huge eyes. I started with the usual nonsense that she seemed to be new here and guessing what she studied.

Do you know whom you remind me of?
Whom?
The girl who went into the forest to meet her grandma
Little red hood?
Yeah [pointing at her raincoat]
I got it from college store

We stared into each other's eyes with me not being able to follow up. "Have a nice day".

Today at the grocery store, a girl wearing something like a scarf (but not the ones muslimas wear). She looked stern when she passed by. But then when i went to the toiletries isle she followed me.

Are you following me?!
Yes I am! [smiles]
Oh I should call the cops
Picking up a mouthwash!

She was smiling now and seemed interested but I was so tired after work and, again, couldn't follow up. At least I learned not to take stern faces too seriously.

I was already to give up for today. I was sitting at the bench and she came around and I didn´t do anything, decided to go for final walk and she was looking to her mobile before crossroad. This was second chance. So we talked and I accompanied her to dormitory for about 30 minutes and had great talk. I hope I see her again.

I was invited to an extended social circle by an old acquaintance. He was actually the only one I knew there.
It was a crowd of about 40+ people, ages 30-40.
Opened up one after another (total 6) but led with the following:
After introduction and chit chat, I went in for deep rapport by cold reading there main problem at work. Told them we should talk about it as I have solutions, but as I'm going abroad for a few days, they need to contact me.
I'm actually abroad now, so it is true.
The main idea was to filter the YES girls, instead of starting text game which will take a while to mature and will probably go cold as I can't hit the iron while it's hot.
This is not my usual MO, but going abroad made me use the "chase me if you want me" method.
3 looked like solid prospects, who genuinely wanted to meet (one of them actually talked about specific dates).
Will have to see.

Quote: (09-23-2018 06:28 PM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  

I was invited to an extended social circle by an old acquaintance. He was actually the only one I knew there.
It was a crowd of about 40+ people, ages 30-40.
Opened up one after another (total 6) but led with the following:
After introduction and chit chat, I went in for deep rapport by cold reading there main problem at work. Told them we should talk about it as I have solutions, but as I'm going abroad for a few days, they need to contact me.
I'm actually abroad now, so it is true.
The main idea was to filter the YES girls, instead of starting text game which will take a while to mature and will probably go cold as I can't hit the iron while it's hot.
This is not my usual MO, but going abroad made me use the "chase me if you want me" method.
3 looked like solid prospects, who genuinely wanted to meet (one of them actually talked about specific dates).
Will have to see.

Can you give an example of how your cold reading went?

Quote: (09-23-2018 06:36 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  

Quote: (09-23-2018 06:28 PM)TheMaleBrain Wrote:  

I was invited to an extended social circle by an old acquaintance. He was actually the only one I knew there.
It was a crowd of about 40+ people, ages 30-40.
Opened up one after another (total 6) but led with the following:
After introduction and chit chat, I went in for deep rapport by cold reading there main problem at work. Told them we should talk about it as I have solutions, but as I'm going abroad for a few days, they need to contact me.
I'm actually abroad now, so it is true.
The main idea was to filter the YES girls, instead of starting text game which will take a while to mature and will probably go cold as I can't hit the iron while it's hot.
This is not my usual MO, but going abroad made me use the "chase me if you want me" method.
3 looked like solid prospects, who genuinely wanted to meet (one of them actually talked about specific dates).
Will have to see.

Can you give an example of how your cold reading went?

Sure
One of them told me she wants to learn a new profession. Told her that she probably did not think it through and only researched the cost. She was shocked and wanted to know more. I talked a little bit about a business plan. Told her we need to talk more about it.
Another is a programmer. She just finished a project so I guessed she was out of work. She said yes and that she strats her unemployment in October. So I discussed some job hunt tactics and told her we should see how to make something happen.

It comes down to listening and guessing the situation. Then you position yourself as someone of value.

I got approached by a good looking girl last night. All I had to do was not fuck up.

Her: "I haven't seen you here before"
Me(sarcastic arsehole):"Well, maybe I haven't been here before."
Her: looks at he like she's disappointing as all hell and walks off.

Moral of the story: when all you have to do if run "don't fuck up" game. Don't fuck up!

Still, I had fun so....

What seems to be the case, at least in Kraköw, the prettier the girl, the higher the chance she's an Ukrainian. Oh, and as I keep finding out, the pretty ones are happily married whilst showing me their wedding rings...

Dinner and nightclub with a few RVF people. Great experience and gained some good insights. Some cool guys there with real game.

Made a few approaches (and got approached) over the night but nothing near the action some of the others were getting.

1) Standing at the bar a petite 6 (7 for my preference) bumped into me. Her boyfriend was behind her stooped over and totally off his nut -- almost unconcious on booze or drugs. I opened with "Your boyfriend isn't looking good". She didn't say anything but pushed up her body against me. I followed with "That's your boyfriend, right?". It clearly was her boyfriend but she was hesitating to reply. So I thought game on.

I can't remember what I said next but I followed whatever I said by stroking the side of her face and went into full-on kino. She was receptive.

During all this the boyfriend is right next to us half-asleep. But suddenly, boyfriend wakes up and reacts. The weird thing is that instead of being aggressive he responds with a hissy fit. He steps in and gently pushes us apart but he focuses his anger on the girl, not me. He then walks towards to door on the dancefloor but the girl stays next to me. I'm standing there bemused. He keeps calling her to go with him but she refuses then he storms off out the door. The girl gets a pained expression on her face -- hesitates for a moment with me -- then finally runs off after him. I was kinda amused. The whole thing went down over maybe only 3-4 mins.

Later on I saw them smooching, completely off their heads. Poor guy. He was actually younger and better looking than me but he's not gonna have good run with girl. Hypergamy is real.

2) Got approached by a couple of fat girls whilst smoking my ecig. One kept hugging me but I couldn't find the will to be aggressive as there was no attraction.

3) Chatted up another petite 5 at the bar. I asked her why she was (like a lot of the girls) wearing a polka dot dress. I made some jokes about how she must have come from a swing dancing event.

She then told me straight up she had a boyfriend. I asked if she was happily 'boyfriended' and she emphatically said yes. I could tell she was serious so I mock pretended to be upset. She said that two of her friends were single and tried to introduce me but I decided to eject. I knew it was gonna be awkard hitting on the other girls after failing with her. In hindsight, I should have invited one of the other guys in.

Super-soft rejection, very cool girl. It's rare to get a rejection that makes you feel somehow better about yourself, if that makes sense.

3) Made eye-contact with numerous girls but too chicken to approach. One of them exchanged glances with me for over 20mins but I just couldn't find 'a reason' to go up to her. Finally, she puts on her fur coat and is walking past me on the dance floor. Last minute, I find my balls and gently grab her with the line "Is that real fur?". She just pushes past me and leaves. Didn't see her again.

There was a couple of other interactions (with girls and general banter with guys) but I can't remember them so probably nothing of note.

Notes: Learnt a lot from seeing the other guys work. They were approach machines.

I'm waiting around to find a 'reason' to make my own approaches and if I can't find one then I'm stuck. This is what happened with the fur coat girl. It's similar to sending an opener to a tinder bitch who has nothing noteworthy in her profile. You're left thinking "Wtf do I say?". Clearly this is something I need to fix.

At the supermarket. Tall girl with European looks. Easily a 9. I opened by telling her she looked stylish. The convo was mostly chit chat with some DHV and good eye contact but I didn't tease her. She asked me several questions and said she worked for church. It felt a little weird. In the end when I pulled out my phone she told me she was married. Meh.

Comparing her to other girls in there I realized why I had difficulty approaching them: most of them were dressed like house cleaners (college town).

Quote: (09-14-2018 07:33 AM)JekyllAndHyde Wrote:  

It is going to get warmer here so more Western European tourists are gonna come down under.

Are you in Sydney? I have a feeling that summer this year will be even bigger than last. When tourist hunting I go to the Opera House or Darling Harbour areas, there's more girls than you can poke a stick at.

Also Pitt Street is good year round but I've not seen many other daygamers around there the last couple of years. I don't know why, if anything these day venues are more saturated that ever before (apart from seasonal effects) but there's fewer guys fishing.

Quote: (09-14-2018 07:33 AM)JekyllAndHyde Wrote:  

I've had a chat with a few other members here in private and they say many guys burn out from daygame by trying it once and never do it again.
It takes dedication, guts and whatever to keep doing it even with the relatively low ROI.

Of course it helps to diversify.

I'm still pushing on with daygame only at the moment. Your idea about diversification make sense but I'm hopeless with Tinder / online game for some reason. Maybe I'll try to get into it at some stage with professional photography to make me look better haha.

Do you do any night game these days?

In a bar at around 8 pm. A tall 20 year old walks in and sits next to me. She has a conversation with the bartender and loudly mentions her birthday is soon. So I open with 'So when is your birthday?' and we get talking. She is a university student, good body but the face has that Dalton's type jaw, maybe a 6.5. She is extremely outgoing, starts Karaoke singing though she's terrible at singing, just for the fun. We take turns, we're the only ones in the bar, and get talking. As the evening goes on I say 'How about a coffee at my place?', she says in a shy manner 'Yes, that would be nice'. But she wants to sing some more songs first. So after a few songs, she turns to me and asks 'So do you come here a lot?' I say maybe twice a week. She says 'Okay, I'll look out for you. Sorry I have to go now'. It's 10.45. I'm too stunned to even ask her number, as she'd agreed to go for a coffee earlier. A live flake, so to speak.

Quote: (10-10-2018 12:00 PM)Jefferson Wrote:  

...'m too stunned to even ask her number, as she'd agreed to go for a coffee earlier. A live flake, so to speak....

Really? Did she? I doubt from what you wrote. Why would she go to a stranger's place. Come on... What did you have to offer that made her go in the middle of the night to you?