^ + fucking 1 brother. I'm framing this shit.

Quote: (09-14-2018 11:28 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  

Kaotic,

Guys get at her all the time. She’s fine and models in NYC/Paris/Milan and is well connected so it’s a bit of a given. I’ve had her locked for years since before the come up so it was never much of an issue for me to navigate that.

After enough guys come with terrible Game and try to spit while you are out with your chick (usually when you step away for a minute to get drinks cause they are herbs) eventually you just don’t care much and start letting them have at it while you do other things like make biz connects or chat other chicks at the joint.

Then we’d head back to her spot and she’d be like “what don’t you care about that” etc etc.

I was basically like “nah you do you I’m not tripping as long as you are still x y z for me, so if someone catches your fancy you should try it out some time”

Not to mention she knows how I am and basically turns a blind eye to everything I do outside of our situation so really it’s only fair.

She easily could have done something and not told me cause I jet a lot and we’ve spent plenty of long stretches apart but I still get what I need and more out of it so I could really care less.

Who am I to deny her a little fun?

The thing is that girls are all emotion and really it’s more or less impossible for another guy to match the kinds of emotions (good and bad) that we’ve had together, so it would be very hard to knock me off my spot.

Obviously this kind of mentality is not really shared around with most guys cause they’d just look at you crazy but then most either aren’t pulling or getting played so I don’t pay much attention to the masses.

How old are you and how old is she? You say you were with her before she was succesful and maybe before she got so much attention I also believe that has big importance. When your more of a girls first and you have those emotional times with her like you said they will kind of pair bond with you. After that she will see the swarms of guys that come after her as just a bunch of thirsty guys and she probably won't be able to make them same bond with them.

Quote: (09-14-2018 11:28 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  

Kaotic,

Guys get at her all the time. She’s fine and models in NYC/Paris/Milan and is well connected so it’s a bit of a given. I’ve had her locked for years since before the come up so it was never much of an issue for me to navigate that.

After enough guys come with terrible Game and try to spit while you are out with your chick (usually when you step away for a minute to get drinks cause they are herbs) eventually you just don’t care much and start letting them have at it while you do other things like make biz connects or chat other chicks at the joint.

Then we’d head back to her spot and she’d be like “what don’t you care about that” etc etc.

I was basically like “nah you do you I’m not tripping as long as you are still x y z for me, so if someone catches your fancy you should try it out some time”

Not to mention she knows how I am and basically turns a blind eye to everything I do outside of our situation so really it’s only fair.

She easily could have done something and not told me cause I jet a lot and we’ve spent plenty of long stretches apart but I still get what I need and more out of it so I could really care less.

Who am I to deny her a little fun?

The thing is that girls are all emotion and really it’s more or less impossible for another guy to match the kinds of emotions (good and bad) that we’ve had together, so it would be very hard to knock me off my spot.

Obviously this kind of mentality is not really shared around with most guys cause they’d just look at you crazy but then most either aren’t pulling or getting played so I don’t pay much attention to the masses.

Bro your girl sounds exactly like my ex. My ex is literally always the best looking woman in the room whenever we go out(to her credit she's extremely humble and approachable). Doesn't matter if it's a white or black establishment. Her body isn't even all that. She's slender with C cups and a nice little ass, but nothing insane. The issue is her face is incredible, she's 6 fucking 4, and she's the black girl with long hair down to her ass. She routinely tells me about her dates and it's frustrating, but interesting all at the same time. I try not to show my hand and outwardly display my frustration. I can have her back at the snap of my fingers, but she requires a commitment. I'm married and i can't break up with this chick for my wife, but god damn she makes it tempting

Cesar I feel you on that, i'm assuming she isn't an LTR but she's a main plate whose on deck for you whenever you or her are in town.

I had an LTR latina that was a smokeshow and I get that whole dudes doing their thing part, situation was slight different since we were dating, I didn't get jealous, but being latina, any women coming near was a threat to her (standard).

With main girls I'm rotating it's always don't ask don't tell, I've known they've seen me on my IG with groups of girls, or having hynas sitting on the back of my Harley (helmet on of course), I've seen em on dating apps (I always swipe right to fuck with them).

That X Y Z you talk about is pretty simple, same goes for my girls, as in no drama, the sex be good, and we enjoy eachothers company.

I haven't had to worry about what a girl does behind my back in a couple years now.

! Caesar!!

You two steps from being a pimp lol.

Basic recognition of biology used to be basic pickup, nowadays....

WIA

Quote: (09-13-2018 11:37 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  

I gave my girl a free pass to mess around a while ago and it just made her not want to. Figures.

It’s not like she hasn’t had the chance or opportunity either, cats are always throwing themselves at her. The issue is they’re so thirsty it’s just a turn off.

If some guy came at her with some Game she might entertain it but realistically those kinds are in short supply.

Some times I wish she would so I’d have to pull less weight in some areas and less guilty when I see something I can’t ignore and have to have.

I’ve got other cats that pull mad but they couldn’t handle the idea that their girl could step out so they just try to lock her down heavy. We all know how that ends so I opted for the opposite approach.

Doing the exact opposite of what everyone else does in life works out a lot of the time.

#realtalk.

The thirst is real out there.

Quote: (09-14-2018 12:13 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  

but she requires a commitment. I'm married and i can't break up with this chick for my wife, but god damn she makes it tempting

Is she saying that "I require commitment" or are noticing that her behavior would require a lot of commitment from you to keep her in check?

Cause if it's #1 - you can bang her.
If it's #2 - you are wise.

WIA

Quote: (09-15-2018 09:09 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Quote: (09-14-2018 12:13 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  

but she requires a commitment. I'm married and i can't break up with this chick for my wife, but god damn she makes it tempting

Is she saying that "I require commitment" or are noticing that her behavior would require a lot of commitment from you to keep her in check?

Cause if it's #1 - you can bang her.
If it's #2 - you are wise.

WIA

Love how you expertly distinguished these two versions of "commitment". Numerous broads out there want high value men to declare that #1 version of commitment that you described. It really is one of the biggest commodities that a man can offer a women. These chicks want to be able to monopolize your time & your attention and not share you with other broads if she values you. The 2nd version of commitment that you described is important for maintaining a chick (whether it's your one woman LTR or even just a chick in the stable).

Quote: (09-12-2018 06:45 PM)Iso Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2018 07:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Same as yours and Madison.

I think it's two things,

Change in body language

Change in focus

One of my favorite game experiences was standing in a corner suited up in a classy establishment as the only Black Man. Chilling there being and watching the hottest blonde in the establishment, who has an orbiter in her group, slowly inching towards me. I'm keeping my cool never looking at her except with the corner of my eye. She starts dancing towards me eventually violating my space. I'm the only guy in the room that has not validated her either by talking to her or staring at her. Being that I'm tall, I keep looking up and around, not looking down at her literally inches below me. I acted like she didn't exist. She does a walk of shame back to her home base.

Later in the night, I go to the bar. Guess who taps me on the shoulder and comments on my drink choice? The same blonde.


I've done the same thing in other bars and watch literal 8's start backing up and start grinding on me. I try to keep my cool because I know if I start grinding back, they will move instantly.

I had to comment on this.

I'm a good looking black male.

What you did to the blonde....stuff like that happens to me routinely.

I've literally been cold approached by (white) girls 100+ times in my life.

But even if you have the looks to pull of the "look good and ignore" strategy; in my experience such a passive approach it is not an optimal strategy and will not result in a lot of bangs.

Maybe your experience has been different. did you fuck that blonde? did you fuck any of those 8s that started grinding on you? how many girls have you fucked using this "stand there looking good and ignoring the hot girls" approach?

Quote: (09-14-2018 12:13 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-14-2018 11:28 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  

Kaotic,

Guys get at her all the time. She’s fine and models in NYC/Paris/Milan and is well connected so it’s a bit of a given. I’ve had her locked for years since before the come up so it was never much of an issue for me to navigate that.

After enough guys come with terrible Game and try to spit while you are out with your chick (usually when you step away for a minute to get drinks cause they are herbs) eventually you just don’t care much and start letting them have at it while you do other things like make biz connects or chat other chicks at the joint.

Then we’d head back to her spot and she’d be like “what don’t you care about that” etc etc.

I was basically like “nah you do you I’m not tripping as long as you are still x y z for me, so if someone catches your fancy you should try it out some time”

Not to mention she knows how I am and basically turns a blind eye to everything I do outside of our situation so really it’s only fair.

She easily could have done something and not told me cause I jet a lot and we’ve spent plenty of long stretches apart but I still get what I need and more out of it so I could really care less.

Who am I to deny her a little fun?

The thing is that girls are all emotion and really it’s more or less impossible for another guy to match the kinds of emotions (good and bad) that we’ve had together, so it would be very hard to knock me off my spot.

Obviously this kind of mentality is not really shared around with most guys cause they’d just look at you crazy but then most either aren’t pulling or getting played so I don’t pay much attention to the masses.

Bro your girl sounds exactly like my ex. My ex is literally always the best looking woman in the room whenever we go out(to her credit she's extremely humble and approachable). Doesn't matter if it's a white or black establishment. Her body isn't even all that. She's slender with C cups and a nice little ass, but nothing insane. The issue is her face is incredible, she's 6 fucking 4, and she's the black girl with long hair down to her ass. She routinely tells me about her dates and it's frustrating, but interesting all at the same time. I try not to show my hand and outwardly display my frustration. I can have her back at the snap of my fingers, but she requires a commitment. I'm married and i can't break up with this chick for my wife, but god damn she makes it tempting

Regarding bolded part

No girl who is that tall would ever be the most desirable women in the room.

Despite all the hype about "models" most guys in my experience dont want tall girls.

All my tall good looking friends who fuck a lot of girls ...most of them fuck girls under 5 foot 9.

Anything above 5 foot 9 for a girl and you start losing points.

In my experience girls that tall are very easy as they are aware that their height is a major negative.

I find tall girls way way easier then girls under 5-9

I dont care where you are dude, no way a 6 foot 4 girl would ever be the most desirable in any venue; not even close actually.

I dont mean to sound hostile but saying your 6 foot 4 girl is "always the best looking in a room" is such a hilariously absurd proposition that i could not help myself from commenting.

All you newbies, discretion is the better part of valor.

WIA

Quote: (09-16-2018 01:19 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

Quote: (09-14-2018 12:13 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-14-2018 11:28 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  

Kaotic,

Guys get at her all the time. She’s fine and models in NYC/Paris/Milan and is well connected so it’s a bit of a given. I’ve had her locked for years since before the come up so it was never much of an issue for me to navigate that.

After enough guys come with terrible Game and try to spit while you are out with your chick (usually when you step away for a minute to get drinks cause they are herbs) eventually you just don’t care much and start letting them have at it while you do other things like make biz connects or chat other chicks at the joint.

Then we’d head back to her spot and she’d be like “what don’t you care about that” etc etc.

I was basically like “nah you do you I’m not tripping as long as you are still x y z for me, so if someone catches your fancy you should try it out some time”

Not to mention she knows how I am and basically turns a blind eye to everything I do outside of our situation so really it’s only fair.

She easily could have done something and not told me cause I jet a lot and we’ve spent plenty of long stretches apart but I still get what I need and more out of it so I could really care less.

Who am I to deny her a little fun?

The thing is that girls are all emotion and really it’s more or less impossible for another guy to match the kinds of emotions (good and bad) that we’ve had together, so it would be very hard to knock me off my spot.

Obviously this kind of mentality is not really shared around with most guys cause they’d just look at you crazy but then most either aren’t pulling or getting played so I don’t pay much attention to the masses.

Bro your girl sounds exactly like my ex. My ex is literally always the best looking woman in the room whenever we go out(to her credit she's extremely humble and approachable). Doesn't matter if it's a white or black establishment. Her body isn't even all that. She's slender with C cups and a nice little ass, but nothing insane. The issue is her face is incredible, she's 6 fucking 4, and she's the black girl with long hair down to her ass. She routinely tells me about her dates and it's frustrating, but interesting all at the same time. I try not to show my hand and outwardly display my frustration. I can have her back at the snap of my fingers, but she requires a commitment. I'm married and i can't break up with this chick for my wife, but god damn she makes it tempting

Regarding bolded part

No girl who is that tall would ever be the most desirable women in the room.

Despite all the hype about "models" most guys in my experience dont want tall girls.

All my tall good looking friends who fuck a lot of girls ...most of them fuck girls under 5 foot 9.

Anything above 5 foot 9 for a girl and you start losing points.

In my experience girls that tall are very easy as they are aware that their height is a major negative.

I find tall girls way way easier then girls under 5-9

I dont care where you are dude, no way a 6 foot 4 girl would ever be the most desirable in any venue; not even close actually.

I dont mean to sound hostile but saying your 6 foot 4 girl is "always the best looking in a room" is such a hilariously absurd proposition that i could not help myself from commenting.

I agree with most of what you said except the "absurd" bit, since if that's the guy's experience, then I'll assume it's true.

As for myself, yes, I find feminine looking tall girls simply amazing, but I don't see them getting approached that much. Sometimes they'll get approached by guys "trying their luck", i.e. super short guys just in it for the fun.

But they'll usually be super receptive due to not being approached that much. However, there are exceptions and I've seen that with my own eyes too.

I don't like tall girls whatsoever, I don't like to see big feet on women.

The long limbs and big hands is a boner killer. I certainly don't care how pretty her face is, if she is taller than me then it is a deal breaker.

I dated a polish chick who was taller than me, she had major insecurities about her height. She tried to make me feel bad about my height, that shit didn't work on me.

For you tall brothas who are into amazon looking women, Scandinavia is full of these chicks who would die for guys like you.

^For the US brohams that aren’t about the international traveling lifestyle (yet), go to Minneosta if you’re looking for those blonde amazonian types. I met a ballet dancer from Minneosta, and she was feeling me, hawd. A number of circumstances prevented us from sealing the deal.

But gotdam, her cakes were the truth

I’ve been in Scottsdale the past few days. Plenty of white girls out here, too. Cheeks for days.

Quote: (09-16-2018 10:44 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I don't like tall girls whatsoever, I don't like to see big feet on women.

The long limbs and big hands is a boner killer. I certainly don't care how pretty her face is, if she is taller than me then it is a deal breaker.

I dated a polish chick who was taller than me, she had major insecurities about her height. She tried to make me feel bad about my height, that shit didn't work on me.

For you tall brothas who are into amazon looking women, Scandinavia is full of these chicks who would die for guys like you.

Fucking a tall girl is like wrestling. It's deeply fun and one hell of a time. Don't tell me you didn't enjoy that part atleast.

Quote: (09-09-2018 10:32 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Halfway through the book, in the approach/attraction section.

"Look into her eyes, pay attention to what she’s saying, and let your instinct guide your responses."

This is the guy that feminists hate.

This is the guy that they want banned from different countries.

This is his seduction style, paying attention to what the girl is saying.

And you tell me the world isn't fucked up?

WIA

This.

I have never got hate for approaching a chick. I never got shit from anyone for her grinding on me. And never ever from making out with her in the corner.

You know when people get antsy? It's when I'm talking to her and she's eating out of my hand. Her eyes have the glow that say "I'll follow you anywhere". Hand on the small of my back and the giggling/talking into my ear.

And that's when the mother hen, Mr. White Knight, or the bouncer saying "Is he bothering you?" come up.

The world will do anything to keep the charismatic down and out.

“”Why is ‘We get it, you like black guys’ becoming a slur in the Asian community“”

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co....82803/amp/

Cultural cockblocking.

From what I see it comes from insecurity. It's mad because so many South-Asian men in the UK act like they want to be black themselves, why would they be surprised when the women in their culture start going for the men they've been imitating. It's the same type of South-Asian men that try to approach women, then turn around and call her a slut / whore / ugly etc. if they reject them (see that all the time). Don't pay them any attention.

Yeah. Insecurity is a motherfucker.

At the end of the day, if the white man , who is undoubtedly at the top of the SMV gets insecure, you can only imagine what other groups must feel like.

TDK

Work is kicking my ass. Soon as you guys start that biz podcast, I'm going to apply what I've learned.

On the Roosh Book - I'm taking notes as I go, about 70% through. Just want to reiterate that this isn't heavy on the politics so far, but it is a deep look into his thought process and philosophy.

I should have ordered the physical copy for day 1, not the kindle joint. Collector's Item?

WIA

Quote: (09-17-2018 07:13 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Work is kicking my ass. Soon as you guys start that biz podcast, I'm going to apply what I've learned.

On the Roosh Book - I'm taking notes as I go, about 70% through. Just want to reiterate that this isn't heavy on the politics so far, but it is a deep look into his thought process and philosophy.

I should have ordered the physical copy for day 1, not the kindle joint. Collector's Item?

WIA

Yeah I got a physical copy.im 30 percent through.

Quote: (09-15-2018 09:09 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Quote: (09-14-2018 12:13 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  

but she requires a commitment. I'm married and i can't break up with this chick for my wife, but god damn she makes it tempting

Is she saying that "I require commitment" or are noticing that her behavior would require a lot of commitment from you to keep her in check?

Cause if it's #1 - you can bang her.
If it's #2 - you are wise.

WIA

That's a fair distinction, I would say it's the former. She says she essentially requires me to leave my wife. Not gonna happen even though i briefly considered it cause im not pleased with my old lady's behavior right now

Quote: (09-16-2018 01:11 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

Quote: (09-12-2018 06:45 PM)Iso Wrote:  

Quote: (09-10-2018 07:31 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Same as yours and Madison.

I think it's two things,

Change in body language

Change in focus

One of my favorite game experiences was standing in a corner suited up in a classy establishment as the only Black Man. Chilling there being and watching the hottest blonde in the establishment, who has an orbiter in her group, slowly inching towards me. I'm keeping my cool never looking at her except with the corner of my eye. She starts dancing towards me eventually violating my space. I'm the only guy in the room that has not validated her either by talking to her or staring at her. Being that I'm tall, I keep looking up and around, not looking down at her literally inches below me. I acted like she didn't exist. She does a walk of shame back to her home base.

Later in the night, I go to the bar. Guess who taps me on the shoulder and comments on my drink choice? The same blonde.


I've done the same thing in other bars and watch literal 8's start backing up and start grinding on me. I try to keep my cool because I know if I start grinding back, they will move instantly.

I had to comment on this.

I'm a good looking black male.

What you did to the blonde....stuff like that happens to me routinely.

I've literally been cold approached by (white) girls 100+ times in my life.

But even if you have the looks to pull of the "look good and ignore" strategy; in my experience such a passive approach it is not an optimal strategy and will not result in a lot of bangs.

Maybe your experience has been different. did you fuck that blonde? did you fuck any of those 8s that started grinding on you? how many girls have you fucked using this "stand there looking good and ignoring the hot girls" approach?

I agree. I consider myself a good looking brother and Im here to tell you nothing is worse than a handsome man that doesn't go after what he wants. Good looking guys are leaving a whole lotta ass on the table by trying to act like they are cuter than women. These women are so flattered when an attractive man isn't too pussy to approach them pretty much every interaction is a positive one even if you don't end up fucking. I can appreciate this idea of waiting for choosing signals, but it simply isn't the best strategy based on the fact that often the girl you want the MOST has non suggestive body language. Sure, you may get the occasional choosing signal from an 8 but the real top tier girls usually require an approach and I prefer to be proactive not reactive.

Quote: (09-16-2018 01:19 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

Quote: (09-14-2018 12:13 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Quote: (09-14-2018 11:28 AM)Black Caesar Wrote:  

Kaotic,

Guys get at her all the time. She’s fine and models in NYC/Paris/Milan and is well connected so it’s a bit of a given. I’ve had her locked for years since before the come up so it was never much of an issue for me to navigate that.

After enough guys come with terrible Game and try to spit while you are out with your chick (usually when you step away for a minute to get drinks cause they are herbs) eventually you just don’t care much and start letting them have at it while you do other things like make biz connects or chat other chicks at the joint.

Then we’d head back to her spot and she’d be like “what don’t you care about that” etc etc.

I was basically like “nah you do you I’m not tripping as long as you are still x y z for me, so if someone catches your fancy you should try it out some time”

Not to mention she knows how I am and basically turns a blind eye to everything I do outside of our situation so really it’s only fair.

She easily could have done something and not told me cause I jet a lot and we’ve spent plenty of long stretches apart but I still get what I need and more out of it so I could really care less.

Who am I to deny her a little fun?

The thing is that girls are all emotion and really it’s more or less impossible for another guy to match the kinds of emotions (good and bad) that we’ve had together, so it would be very hard to knock me off my spot.

Obviously this kind of mentality is not really shared around with most guys cause they’d just look at you crazy but then most either aren’t pulling or getting played so I don’t pay much attention to the masses.

Bro your girl sounds exactly like my ex. My ex is literally always the best looking woman in the room whenever we go out(to her credit she's extremely humble and approachable). Doesn't matter if it's a white or black establishment. Her body isn't even all that. She's slender with C cups and a nice little ass, but nothing insane. The issue is her face is incredible, she's 6 fucking 4, and she's the black girl with long hair down to her ass. She routinely tells me about her dates and it's frustrating, but interesting all at the same time. I try not to show my hand and outwardly display my frustration. I can have her back at the snap of my fingers, but she requires a commitment. I'm married and i can't break up with this chick for my wife, but god damn she makes it tempting

Regarding bolded part

No girl who is that tall would ever be the most desirable women in the room.

Despite all the hype about "models" most guys in my experience dont want tall girls.

All my tall good looking friends who fuck a lot of girls ...most of them fuck girls under 5 foot 9.

Anything above 5 foot 9 for a girl and you start losing points.

In my experience girls that tall are very easy as they are aware that their height is a major negative.

I find tall girls way way easier then girls under 5-9

I dont care where you are dude, no way a 6 foot 4 girl would ever be the most desirable in any venue; not even close actually.

I dont mean to sound hostile but saying your 6 foot 4 girl is "always the best looking in a room" is such a hilariously absurd proposition that i could not help myself from commenting.

Im not taking your comment with hostility at all brother and I could pm a pic if you don't believe me. Im here to tell you that her height is not a hindrance to her beauty at all. Part of her appeal is the fact she's so feminine and has soft features coupled with Pocahontas hair(all hers). I've been with a lot of attractive women, a whole lot and she overwhelmingly gets the most attention. She get's constant validation from not just men, but other women about how she looks. We go out to a restaurant there will inevitably be a woman that walks over to our table to tell her how pretty she is or there will be some beta asshole telling me how lucky i am.

Quote: (09-17-2018 04:43 AM)Kieran Wrote:  

From what I see it comes from insecurity. It's mad because so many South-Asian men in the UK act like they want to be black themselves, why would they be surprised when the women in their culture start going for the men they've been imitating. It's the same type of South-Asian men that try to approach women, then turn around and call her a slut / whore / ugly etc. if they reject them (see that all the time). Don't pay them any attention.

This is why i avoid clubs that they tend to flock to. As the saying goes, people Love black culture but not black people but the worst I've experienced are from south-asians. I've had moments in clubs that they come up, pretend to be friends, start dance near you, fist bumping and generally trying to create false hype. However as soon as "their woman" approach you or vice versa, they start frothing at the mouth. I've had the same experience with white dudes but they tend to not talk about the whole "their woman" thing. As you said, by default i don't pay them any attention until prove me wrong otherwise