There are millions, literally, of tinder/bumble/IG/Snap sluts that are out banging every night, it ain't that hard to get laid even with [at least] minimal game and avg looks. And as others have widely noted, 8s can be easier than 6s in many environments.

Donny, it's hard for certain guys. Have you ever watched 'FaceAndLMS's videos on YouTube? If you're genetically an ugly and out of shape guy, most good looking girls will over look you. Sure, you can scrape the bottom of the barrel and say you get laid every night but you're not banging the hotties of your locale, every night.

And as for going on social media dating apps to get laid. I'm not denying you can't get laid every night but it's considerably harder these days, and you're kidding yourself and pumping rainbows up the asses of dudes that don't have the same energy as RSD Tyler and his style of approach or your energy and approach.

Quote: (07-27-2018 10:45 AM)UniversalMen Wrote:  

Quote: (07-27-2018 04:35 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

Not exactly. If you're living in East asia, 20+ average girls is pretty easy as long as you aren't a total autist like Suits.

Fortis, I appreciate your comment but you're way off and you missed my point completely.

I was referring to where Tyler lives, and that is in the US. Not East Asia. My point wasn't about men that go to an Asian country to get laid but for men like myself who live in western countries and in particular, the US, that it requires so much work to get laid in this country, especially, with today's toxic environment that men in this country have to circumvent to meet and seduce women in their towns or cities.

This. I mean this is essentially why people go through youtube videos and forums to learn "game". Going to SEA and getting a ton of easy lays isn't exactly "game", but of course the sexual experience is still the same.

Droughtmeat, Agreed. We've had enough guys tell us how easy it is to get laid in SEA countries but average/below average men that have to seduce and bang girls in the US have to do a considerable amount of more work than men of similar looks that go to SEA countries.

I'm fucking getting tired of the grind. Welp I guess I'm just going to accept sexual frustration and droughts unless the 5 or 6 I get to bang once in a while is an easy lay up.

Quote: (07-27-2018 03:56 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

There are millions, literally, of tinder/bumble/IG/Snap sluts that are out banging every night, it ain't that hard to get laid even with [at least] minimal game and avg looks. And as others have widely noted, 8s can be easier than 6s in many environments.

@monsquid

Fuck that. Are you a man? You're evolved to shape your environment not let it shape you. You don't have to accept accept defeat because some tinder hoes won't give you the time of day. C'mon man.

^^
This should be the banner of the forum "It's Men that shape their environement and not the other way around"

@eugenics I hear you but I'm getting fatigued after a decade of self improvement and working on my game. Other than mostly forgettable bangs I have nothing to show for it. I guess it's kept me focused on staying healthy and developing a career but everything seems pointless now. I just want to come home from work, get my workout in, make dinner, and go to sleep. Maybe I need to go to another country for a year or two and reset my perspective.

Tyler seems obnoxious to me. If you try his style of approach in places like Europe where people are more chill and the girls are a bit more intelligent than the average Hollywood bimbo you will be labeled a clown. I think he found a niche that works for him and gets him laid, he's wealthy and confident but he doesn't bring any real value to someone who wants to get into the game and become successful with women.

Quote: (07-27-2018 08:55 PM)monsquid Wrote:  

I'm fucking getting tired of the grind. Welp I guess I'm just going to accept sexual frustration and droughts unless the 5 or 6 I get to bang once in a while is an easy lay up.

Just bang 5's and 6's to start. It'll raise your confidence and you can take it from there. I still occasionally bang 6's. If i'm able to make her orgasm hard it's always good experience and gives me more confidence. Stop being a bitch.

Monsquid, I feel ya. The grind can be exhausting just ask any other guy that's been practicing game for a decade or more. Even when they pull 8s or higher on a regular basis they, too, say that at some point usually once they're in their forties that they just no longer have the desire to pull girls day in day out. From personal experience it becomes a second job.

Travolta, just out of curiosity, if you don't mind me asking. How old are you?

30. When I was in my teens-mid 20's I'd reject 5's and 6's because my ego was too big. In hindsight I just threw away easy pussy. I don't regret any of the girls I banged, even the ugly/fat ones. All of it makes for a good story. These days I try to stick with cute or hot girls, but if I haven't had sex in a couple months you better believe I'm fucking a 6 if that's all I can get. Build confidence from 6's and make the next girl a 7.

Guys... this idea that you have to watch your girl get banged by another dude to get over sexual jealousy... it's fucking dumb. Only the most stupid of the stupid men will believe this.

Here is the thing... if you are with a woman that you have feelings for... then sexual jealous is OK. It's a sign that you care.

What RSD Tyler is trying to do is get you to achieve apathy. When you literally don't give a shit how the woman you are banging... or trying to bang... thinks, feels, does, then you are in the zone. If you want to not give a shit... then abundance mentality will help you 1,000 times more than Cuckold mentality.

I completely don't agree with Tyler but why are so many people on this form so sensitive. Being sensitive and jealous is a woman's trait. You never own the pussy you only rent it.

When I get bored, I'll write a post of on this. Sometimes I get frustrated and bored of game, too. Here is my advice...

1. You have to make yourself better looking. Go to the gym, go tanning, whiten your teeth, loose / gain weight, wear "better" (as in, they fit and look cool, not more expensive) clothes. I gained a few pounds last year and thought my game atrophied. I lost the weight and suddenly everything is back to normal. Same game, same Hank. Just less weight, a fresh tan, and clothes that fit. These days, looks matter more than ever. Unfortunately, this is the most important part if women are your goal. Good haircut, nice clothes, tan, white teeth, body spray / cologne, physique, yadda yadda.

2. Have hobbies outside of game. I like jiu jitsu, kickboxing, hiking, fishing, camping, off roading, Playstation 2, kayaking, restoring old cars, cycling, real estate, cooking, etc. Whatever makes you happy. Don't do this stuff for women, just do it because you like it. I wake up in the mornings thinking about kickboxing, not game. If your life revolves around game, you're going to be miserable.

3. Put yourself in a position to meet more high quality women. When you're good looking and have your shit together, they'll gravitate towards you (or if you're good looking and are a total mess, the same thing will happen). But getting women requires being around women. That's why bartenders and DJs get so many hot chicks -- they're around them all the time. Conversely, as a lawyer, I'm around dudes 90% of the time. Work out of places like coffee shops, public places, shared office space, etc. if you can. Tons of women.

4. Have a circle of likeminded male friends. Talk to them about business, philosophy, women, etc. Don't try and talk to women about this stuff. If you don't have any, start meetups on the forum. You need male friends.

5. Just like business, there are slow periods in game. Summer is slow at home; hot down the shore. Around the holidays its slow, too. Women like to have boyfriends over the holidays, Valentines Day, and it's hit or miss during the summer. Take that time to work out, do your hobbies, make money, read up, etc. Good times for game? Jan, March, April, May, September, October, November, and early December. I have the most luck in the fall -- that's when they're looking for new relationships.

6. Online dating sucks. Do stuff like meetup.com, church, etc. At least you'll get a kayaking trip or a ballgame out of it.

7. Learn to enjoy being single. Do work around your house / apartment, get new furniture, install a kicking bag, lose that weight, sign up for a new class, start a new business, or beat the guy with the two chainguns on Playstation. I find it hard to stay in a relationship for more than 8 months because it takes up too much of my time.

8. Money doesn't matter. Women would rather date a total loser who can't pay his rent than a socially awkward real estate investor who goes on Caribbean trips each month. Better yet, they'll bang the loser and go on trips with the investor and lead him on for sex. ("Baby, we just don't know each other well enough yet, but maybe we could learn more about each other in Barbados..."). Rich guys get played all the time. Spend your cash on you, not women. It makes no difference, except when you can't pay rent.

I'll write more about it, but you get the gist. Do stuff you enjoy and don't sweat women too much. It will all fall into place.

Quote: (07-28-2018 10:16 PM)travolta Wrote:  

These days I try to stick with cute or hot girls, but if I haven't had sex in a couple months you better believe I'm fucking a 6 if that's all I can get. Build confidence from 6's and make the next girl a 7.

You and I are similar in age but that's beside the point. Have you ever watched 'FaceAndLMS's videos on YouTube? Check them out. I don't intend to keep harping on this but the reality is (and I'm sure you know this already) some dudes who are, unfortunately, not good looking whatsoever (facial deformity, weird voice pitch, height, etc.), will not be able to get with even the bottom-of-the-barrel girls, mostly, because of the toxic bullshit that men have to put up with today. All, red pill truths.

Roosh has brought this up before in some of his posts, and it has a lot to do with feminism and social media. I'm not recommending any man quit pursuing and banging girls as often as possible but if they wish to achieve what guys like RSD Tyler/men off of ROK and RooshV Forum, still have a considerable challenge in getting lays on a day to day, week to week, month to month and year to year basis.

^^^ Hank Moody just left a reply that really sums up how us men should go about our daily lives, and pursue being our best and to not make banging babes the center of our world.

Quote: (07-30-2018 02:19 PM)UniversalMen Wrote:  

Have you ever watched 'FaceAndLMS's videos on YouTube? Check them out. I don't intend to keep harping on this but the reality is (and I'm sure you know this already) some dudes who are, unfortunately, not good looking whatsoever (facial deformity, weird voice pitch, height, etc.), will not be able to get with even the bottom-of-the-barrel girls, mostly, because of the toxic bullshit that men have to put up with today. All, red pill truths.

Roosh has brought this up before in some of his posts, and it has a lot to do with feminism and social media.

This is akin to women trying to push fat acceptance. Yes, a tiny tiny minority of men won't ever be able to get even bottom of the barrel women - but only those with actual major physical or mental handicaps. We're talking the bottom 1% of the male population. "feminism and social media" aren't stopping the other 99% of men from getting laid, laziness is.

For the other 99%, if they're not getting girls they need to 1) workout 3 days a week for an hour a day for a year. 2) invest $1500 in a fashionable wardrobe 3) get out there and approach and 4) work on their careers so they're earning good money.

It doesn't matter if a man is extremely ugly, or short - a well dressed man, in good shape, with game, who earns a good living will be able to get women. And none of those 4 things are exceptionally difficult to do, literally any man can do them if they're willing to work hard.

I've yet to see a jacked, well dressed, socially well adjusted, wealthy, MGTOW/incel advocate. And I have a strong suspicion they don't exist. Its always skinny/badly dressed/living in mom's basement types who whine about how its simply impossible to get laid these days and self improvement is pointless - because they're too lazy to engage in it.

Quote: (07-31-2018 06:07 AM)zatara Wrote:  

I've yet to see a jacked, well dressed, socially well adjusted, wealthy, MGTOW/incel advocate. And I have a strong suspicion they don't exist. Its always skinny/badly dressed/living in mom's basement types who whine about how its simply impossible to get laid these days and self improvement is pointless - because they're too lazy to engage in it.

Truth right here. Every MGTOW I've met has been skinny or fat or some combination of both.

I actually ran into a few guys who told me they were MGTOWs and I smelled the stink of defeat upon them. I actually felt a slight bit of anger at them for being such weaklings. That's partially why I'm very against our side of the internet being aligned with those sorts of people.

A community is only as strong as the weakest link in the chain and MGTOWs are Omega weaklings.

Quote: (07-31-2018 06:17 AM)Fortis Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2018 06:07 AM)zatara Wrote:  

I've yet to see a jacked, well dressed, socially well adjusted, wealthy, MGTOW/incel advocate. And I have a strong suspicion they don't exist. Its always skinny/badly dressed/living in mom's basement types who whine about how its simply impossible to get laid these days and self improvement is pointless - because they're too lazy to engage in it.

Truth right here. Every MGTOW I've met has been skinny or fat or some combination of both.

I actually ran into a few guys who told me they were MGTOWs and I smelled the stink of defeat upon them. I actually felt a slight bit of anger at them for being such weaklings. That's partially why I'm very against our side of the internet being aligned with those sorts of people.

A community is only as strong as the weakest link in the chain and MGTOWs are Omega weaklings.

Did you see them in Asia or the US?

Yeah I ran into these guys in China. I was shocked that they came all the way to China to avoid women.

How did you meet them and how did the conversation steer to them saying that? What exactly did they say? I'm very curious as I've only really seen these phenomenons online.

Quote: (07-28-2018 08:42 AM)monsquid Wrote:  

@eugenics I hear you but I'm getting fatigued after a decade of self improvement and working on my game. Other than mostly forgettable bangs I have nothing to show for it. I guess it's kept me focused on staying healthy and developing a career but everything seems pointless now. I just want to come home from work, get my workout in, make dinner, and go to sleep. Maybe I need to go to another country for a year or two and reset my perspective.

I'm sorry you wasted a decade of your life getting played by "game" material

Its not real FYI. Just look good, (be rich and/or famous/popular), don't be socially retarded, and actually go for the close (sex)

Source: someone who was getting played like you but has no problem getting laid now

Quote: (07-30-2018 02:19 PM)UniversalMen Wrote:  

You and I are similar in age but that's beside the point. Have you ever watched 'FaceAndLMS's videos on YouTube? Check them out. I don't intend to keep harping on this but the reality is (and I'm sure you know this already) some dudes who are, unfortunately, not good looking whatsoever (facial deformity, weird voice pitch, height, etc.), will not be able to get with even the bottom-of-the-barrel girls, mostly, because of the toxic bullshit that men have to put up with today. All, red pill truths.

Yes, FaceAndLMS speaks some truths. Looks matter. No one is really saying they don't. But like zatara mentioned, unless you're the 1% of the male population that is deformed, there is hope for you.

You have two options: Improve yourself or go MGTOW.

Here is some other harsh truths: FaceAndLMS is a pathetic man. MGTOW are pathetic men. They have given up because they are too fucking lazy and weak men to improve their situation. They would rather make YouTube videos, post on message boards and whine about how everything is stacked against them. Sounds a lot like a feminist to me. Always blaming others and never taking personal responsibility. It's easy to cry like a 3 year old baby because you're not getting your way.

A real man, however, sees the problem and fixes it. And he continues to fix it. He doesn't give up. Maybe the problem can be fixed in a day; maybe it will take a week. Month. Years. Maybe it can never be fixed. But you know what? He keeps trying. He doesn't give up. THAT alone makes him a better person.

Quit being a pussy and begin to improve yourself today. Join a gym and lift weights. Start there. No excuses. The testosterone/muscle pump alone will improve your outlook.

Stop watching MGTOW YouTube channels where they just drag everyone down into their depression abyss. Misery loves company.