So i mean are foreign girls really better because i read the lil thing roosh had about it on this site saying how american chicks are out of their place.
which i do agree..
By the way im 19 so i aint done much travelin jus a kuntry boy

I personally dont like american girls for the level of superficiality they exude. They tend to be more emotionally detached, and constantly at odds with their own wants and beleif systems. I have never met an american girl as passionate about life and things other then drugs, clothes, and money then the average asian girl if you can get them really attracted to you. Im thinking SA girls will be even more passionate.

Some of it is new girls = exciting. And some of it is that other countries women are brought up different.

For the most part you can still find some real sweet American girls out in the smaller towns and in the country, but in the cities its all mean eaters and cold masculenized bitches

"So i mean are foreign girls really better "

Yes. In Barcelona right now, and it amazing how many hotter girls there are.

Again, the only real repulsive girls I have seen here were american girls.

I need to learn another language....

Willy Wonka,

Free yourself from the yoke of the english speaking world.

Or you can always go to Australia. That place is dope.

Still, there is a certain savoir-faire to swooping fly girls in a foreign language.

In fact, that is what I have planned on my docket tonight!

In my opinion, here's the difference, everything else being equal (looks, money, education, etc), as you can find equivalent girls, on paper, everywhere. Despite what anyone else may say, there are very hot women in North America.

Its the tendency for North American women to have masculine personality characteristics, which are unattractive, vs a foreign woman who will tend to be feminine through and through.

Masculine characteristics may include, but not be limited to:

Expressing discontent or anger in an unfeminine way (cursing, getting very emotionally and verbally excited, disrespectful, threatening, etc...)

Second guessing, offering an opinion on, or otherwise critiquing every decision the man makes.

Feeling the need to be involved in, or even make most decisions.

Non-stop requests which serve to make a man subservient and put him in an 'order taking' frame of mind over time.

Lack of an ability to have a 'middle ground' part of her personality which deals with problems in a rational and calm way.

A sense of entitlement.

Belief that men need to fulfill all of the traditional roles of men, but that they don't need to live up to and fulfill all of the traditional roles and behavior characteristics of women.

Lack of an ability (as in never learned the skills) to be effectively seductive. Due to the culture, many women skate by in their sexual lives, believing that having a vagina is all the seductive power that they really need. Most men reinforce their belief.

Lack of an ability to make their man feel like a man.

Lack of a certain 'softness' in both their personality and their approach to sex (not needed all the time with sex, but she's lacking if the ability isnt there).

I could go on. Unfortunately, it doesnt matter how good looking a woman is, as she will likely exhibit one or more of these behaviors if she's from North America.

Quote: (05-12-2010 01:20 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

In my opinion, here's the difference, everything else being equal (looks, money, education, etc), as you can find equivalent girls, on paper, everywhere. Despite what anyone else may say, there are very hot women in North America.

Its the tendency for North American women to have masculine personality characteristics, which are unattractive, vs a foreign woman who will tend to be feminine through and through.

Masculine characteristics may include, but not be limited to:

Expressing discontent or anger in an unfeminine way (cursing, getting very emotionally and verbally excited, disrespectful, threatening, etc...)

Second guessing, offering an opinion on, or otherwise critiquing every decision the man makes.

Feeling the need to be involved in, or even make most decisions.

Non-stop requests which serve to make a man subservient and put him in an 'order taking' frame of mind over time.

Lack of an ability to have a 'middle ground' part of her personality which deals with problems in a rational and calm way.

A sense of entitlement.

Belief that men need to fulfill all of the traditional roles of men, but that they don't need to live up to and fulfill all of the traditional roles and behavior characteristics of women.

Lack of an ability (as in never learned the skills) to be effectively seductive. Due to the culture, many women skate by in their sexual lives, believing that having a vagina is all the seductive power that they really need. Most men reinforce their belief.

Lack of an ability to make their man feel like a man.

Lack of a certain 'softness' in both their personality and their approach to sex (not needed all the time with sex, but she's lacking if the ability isnt there).

I could go on. Unfortunately, it doesnt matter how good looking a woman is, as she will likely exhibit one or more of these behaviors if she's from North America.

Excellent breakdown.

And I agree...You can still find Feminine, soft girls in North America. You just gotta know where to look, and how to choose them.

I have been having success lately with small town, athletic, slightly nerdy girls. These girls take care of themselves, go to college, and enjoy being a girl. They don't party too much because they are on the swim/volleyball/tennis team at their local college. I find them in the library or the gym. They always have their hair up and their glasses on. They are strong women yet appear sexy and soft. They respect the hardness of a real man. In fact, some of them have told me that they repect the fact that I let them be a woman and I act like a man. Its the natural way.

Quote: (05-12-2010 01:36 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

Quote: (05-12-2010 01:20 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

In my opinion, here's the difference, everything else being equal (looks, money, education, etc), as you can find equivalent girls, on paper, everywhere. Despite what anyone else may say, there are very hot women in North America.

Its the tendency for North American women to have masculine personality characteristics, which are unattractive, vs a foreign woman who will tend to be feminine through and through.

Masculine characteristics may include, but not be limited to:

Expressing discontent or anger in an unfeminine way (cursing, getting very emotionally and verbally excited, disrespectful, threatening, etc...)

Second guessing, offering an opinion on, or otherwise critiquing every decision the man makes.

Feeling the need to be involved in, or even make most decisions.

Non-stop requests which serve to make a man subservient and put him in an 'order taking' frame of mind over time.

Lack of an ability to have a 'middle ground' part of her personality which deals with problems in a rational and calm way.

A sense of entitlement.

Belief that men need to fulfill all of the traditional roles of men, but that they don't need to live up to and fulfill all of the traditional roles and behavior characteristics of women.

Lack of an ability (as in never learned the skills) to be effectively seductive. Due to the culture, many women skate by in their sexual lives, believing that having a vagina is all the seductive power that they really need. Most men reinforce their belief.

Lack of an ability to make their man feel like a man.

Lack of a certain 'softness' in both their personality and their approach to sex (not needed all the time with sex, but she's lacking if the ability isnt there).

I could go on. Unfortunately, it doesnt matter how good looking a woman is, as she will likely exhibit one or more of these behaviors if she's from North America.

Excellent breakdown.

And I agree...You can still find Feminine, soft girls in North America. You just gotta know where to look, and how to choose them.

I have been having success lately with small town, athletic, slightly nerdy girls. These girls take care of themselves, go to college, and enjoy being a girl. They don't party too much because they are on the swim/volleyball/tennis team at their local college. I find them in the library or the gym. They always have their hair up and their glasses on. They are strong women yet appear sexy and soft. They respect the hardness of a real man. In fact, some of them have told me that they repect the fact that I let them be a woman and I act like a man. Its the natural way.

I agree. The most feminine American girls that I've dated have been small town girls. You just have to find the ones that don't have some weird internal religious values confliction / agenda.

Dude, I almost forgot what American girls were like. The last one I dated was a psycho bitch around a year and a half ago and before that, it's literally been like 3 years. Alls I do is foreigners pretty much now. I'm lucky enough to live in a place were they're abundant, or I travel. Though the ones I get in the US are usually the upper class snobby foreigners, but they're still better than american girls IMO.

Hydro,
Good breakdown of the American and Canadian girls as well. The girls in NA are so unfeminine that it's almost disgusting seeing them behave and talk like a man. The way some of these NA girls dress is just pathetic. Baggy sporting pants, huge winter boots, hair undone and an expressionless face filled with anger. The other day I was at a mall in here in the fragrance/perfume section and I was looking at an ad on the wall (as a businessman, I'm always looking and analyzing ads from the major corporations to see what they're doing and trying to implement it into my ads) and out of nowhere this typical feminazi appears and stops between me and the ad on the wall. I was still in my thoughts looking at the ad and analyzising it in my mind when she yelled towards me "what are you looking at loser?". At first I didn't pay attention as I didn't think she was addressing me as I have never seen someone behave in such a foul manner in public, but then the way she was looking towards me I realized she was talking to me. I looked at her for a second and shook my head and replied "I'm sorry, I'd have to agree with you that I'd be a loser for looking at YOU." To which she said "whateva". A couple of guys were witnessing the scene started laughing and I just left.

I mean first the way she was dressed as I described above, baggy ugly pants, huge winter boots, hair undone, huge sunglasses that covered 4/5 of her face (no kidding, what's up with all these chicks wearing these oversized sunglasses nowadays???) and so much anger in her that if she had a gun, she would have killed the entire mall.

All in all, the western/NA girls are hopelessly doomed. More and more guys are waking up and realizing that there are tons of other beautiful sexy and feminine women outside of NA. And I guess that's part of why these NA girls are so angered is that they are helplessly watching guys ignore them and go elsewhere. And then, they go on labelling us, the travelling guys to foreign countries as losers and labelling the women from these countries as cheap sluts and whores.

In short, the NA girls/women are totally f-up in their head.

G,

Australia, ehh??? Might need to check that out.

How many different languages can you speak, bro?

I live in Australia, and they are your typical western drunkard whores who love drama.

The problems you guys have with American women are the same problems you will see with women from the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, white South Africans, etc. The similarities in culture are clear as day.

If its predominantly white and its a former British colony, its normally a feminist coven.

Im in Canada, this recent interaction sums up the women:

Enter an elevator that has a late 30s girl you would bang only if drunk.

me: hello (not in a pickup manner, just being polite)
she: no response

we arrive on ground. I did not want to let her off first but just out of habit,
me: 'please' (indicating her to go out)...
her: NO, YOU FIRST ... like a biaatchh...thinking I was trying to pick her up or something....

nuff said. I know it's one small event. But it's an indication of the type of women out there in NA. Have travelled everywhere and this could only happen in NA.

Quote: (05-12-2010 04:05 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Hydro,
Good breakdown of the American and Canadian girls as well. The girls in NA are so unfeminine that it's almost disgusting seeing them behave and talk like a man. The way some of these NA girls dress is just pathetic. Baggy sporting pants, huge winter boots, hair undone and an expressionless face filled with anger. The other day I was at a mall in here in the fragrance/perfume section and I was looking at an ad on the wall (as a businessman, I'm always looking and analyzing ads from the major corporations to see what they're doing and trying to implement it into my ads) and out of nowhere this typical feminazi appears and stops between me and the ad on the wall. I was still in my thoughts looking at the ad and analyzising it in my mind when she yelled towards me "what are you looking at loser?". At first I didn't pay attention as I didn't think she was addressing me as I have never seen someone behave in such a foul manner in public, but then the way she was looking towards me I realized she was talking to me. I looked at her for a second and shook my head and replied "I'm sorry, I'd have to agree with you that I'd be a loser for looking at YOU." To which she said "whateva". A couple of guys were witnessing the scene started laughing and I just left.

I mean first the way she was dressed as I described above, baggy ugly pants, huge winter boots, hair undone, huge sunglasses that covered 4/5 of her face (no kidding, what's up with all these chicks wearing these oversized sunglasses nowadays???) and so much anger in her that if she had a gun, she would have killed the entire mall.

All in all, the western/NA girls are hopelessly doomed. More and more guys are waking up and realizing that there are tons of other beautiful sexy and feminine women outside of NA. And I guess that's part of why these NA girls are so angered is that they are helplessly watching guys ignore them and go elsewhere. And then, they go on labelling us, the travelling guys to foreign countries as losers and labelling the women from these countries as cheap sluts and whores.

In short, the NA girls/women are totally f-up in their head.

Dang yo!! You guys need to come to Miami - I don't ever see women with baggy jeans, and hair undone looking like shit - really, I don't. Actually, they all walk around half naked, with Shakira thick hips in the Miami Beach/Fort lauderdale neighborhood =)

@bixx: this elevator conversation was weird.

I just got back from a date with a Kenyan girl. This week I also went out with a New York Puerto Rican and an African-American. The Kenyan was effortlessly the most fun and feminine. The African-American girl wasn't bad but lacked the "fun" vibe. American women just aren't fun. I'm in DC, land of the over-educated over-achiever, so that has a major part of it but I'm about to swear off Americans.

Yes, I can confirm the fact America has really bad quality of women. I never thought about it and I think I can be objective. I lived all my life in Russia and only moved to the US 2 years ago to go to school.
My impression from being in a big American university for 2 years.

1. Girls are not happy when they meet a new guy. In Russia, if you have a class together and talk to a girl next to you, she is happy you made the effort to meet her, she will be friendly and show it. In the US, most of them are busy looking at their stupid Iphones in pink cases and they wanna go back to texting as soon as you two are done talking.

2. I might be wrong but the girls have the upper hand in interactions. or at least try to. They are more likely to cancel a meeting, be late, etc. This is just wrong and I felt bad. One time a girl cancelled the date 10 mins before the arranged time. I told her she doesn't have any manners and she should've let me know earlier. She deleted me from friends on FB and avoids me whenever possible. I don't care, but several of my Russian girl friends said they would apologize and make up for it when I told the whole story.

3. Girls in my university (around 25 000 students, public, South) are way below what you would see in the same size university in Russia. Not only sweatpants, no make up and bad clothing in general, but I think genetically Russian women are just beautiful. I only realized it after I moved abroad, it's not just a stereotype. Russian girls are beautiful. Sorry, everybody else, haha.

4. American girls are hard to talk to about anything meaningful. Whatever you talk about, there are very few subjects they are interested in. I recently went out with some Russian girls who live in New York. I was shocked at how interested they were and how easy it is to keep the conversation going. The same with Colombians, unless they have been here long enough to be brainwashed and become Americanized.

5. In American culture, especially college age people, there is constant competition. In poorer countries people boast with their money, jobs are cars. Honestly, in the US people are modest about their money but all the competition is about who has the coolest life. This is what Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and all this other crap is for. People have to tell everybody else about the slightest fun thing they do to increase their status.

I always felt like girls tried to estimate me - how many friends I have, what parties I go to, etc, etc. I was always thinking - "Who the hell are you to judge my life? It's probably way more fun than yours, and yet, you are trying to give me an estimate? Go to hell".

I can go forever. I am leaving this country, partly because I can't deal with American girls anymore. They are ugly, boring and superficial. Every slight interaction with Russian or Latino girls still shows me how bad it is in the US. I am going to Colombia in 10 days. The only place I love here in New York, because it has the most foreigners.

My condolences to all American guys.

Small town Ontario is amazing. Ottawa and Toronto are horrible. Where in Canada are these incidents taking place?

Where I am from girls are really cute and plentiful and if they develop shitty attitudes its not until their mid 20's. The most likely reason is because they've been home for the summer too many times in a bigger city and it slowly rubs off on them.

Ive heard good things about pretty much every city in SE Ontario that is between 50k and 400k population other than Waterloo and Windsor.

As someone who has lived in Australia for more than ten years and traveled to America, I can tell you that there is literally no difference in the girls there and here. If your an American guy, expect much of the same in Australia.

There is plenty of feminism here in Australia, even many posters advocating marxism in Melbourne city.

I should add that if you daygame in Australia, you will get many European tourists, mainly from western Europe and middle Europe( France, Germany) , so daygame is quite a treat. You will get Russian,Serbian and polish woman occasionally in daygame aswell, but from approaching heaps in the city, Russians are most common. .

Australia is also a good place if you like Oriental/Asian women( Chinese, veit, Korean, etc) as the major cities like Melbourne and Sydney have them in spades , night game or day game. ten again ,I remember America having plenty of Asians as well.

Quote: (06-04-2013 07:21 PM)Baobab Wrote:  

My condolences to all American guys.

Thanks. It is all about catching foreign or small town girls here before she gets brainwashed and trying to squeeze out a good few months or miraculously, years sometimes. I met a Russian born and bred girl in NYC over New Year's. She had been in the country for a year or so and was a complete and utter American bitch already from the power and ego trip girls here are sold.

Quote: (05-11-2010 09:22 PM)upandcoming1 Wrote:  

So i mean are foreign girls really better because i read the lil thing roosh had about it on this site saying how american chicks are out of their place.
which i do agree..
By the way im 19 so i aint done much travelin jus a kuntry boy

This title of this whole thread sounds kind of America-centric, almost as though the diversity of the world's cultures/women could be divided into simply "American" and "non-American".

Two women from two different countries can differ at least as much from each other as they can from an American woman.

Come here to Japan, for example, and you as an American are just as foreign in the eyes of the local population as a Russian or a Pakistani.

Which foreign women are you talking about? Russian? Danish? Korean? British? Brazilian? German?

Quote: (06-04-2013 07:21 PM)Baobab Wrote:  

Yes, I can confirm the fact America has really bad quality of women. I never thought about it and I think I can be objective. I lived all my life in Russia and only moved to the US 2 years ago to go to school.
My impression from being in a big American university for 2 years.

1. Girls are not happy when they meet a new guy. In Russia, if you have a class together and talk to a girl next to you, she is happy you made the effort to meet her, she will be friendly and show it. In the US, most of them are busy looking at their stupid Iphones in pink cases and they wanna go back to texting as soon as you two are done talking.

2. I might be wrong but the girls have the upper hand in interactions. or at least try to. They are more likely to cancel a meeting, be late, etc. This is just wrong and I felt bad. One time a girl cancelled the date 10 mins before the arranged time. I told her she doesn't have any manners and she should've let me know earlier. She deleted me from friends on FB and avoids me whenever possible. I don't care, but several of my Russian girl friends said they would apologize and make up for it when I told the whole story.

3. Girls in my university (around 25 000 students, public, South) are way below what you would see in the same size university in Russia. Not only sweatpants, no make up and bad clothing in general, but I think genetically Russian women are just beautiful. I only realized it after I moved abroad, it's not just a stereotype. Russian girls are beautiful. Sorry, everybody else, haha.

4. American girls are hard to talk to about anything meaningful. Whatever you talk about, there are very few subjects they are interested in. I recently went out with some Russian girls who live in New York. I was shocked at how interested they were and how easy it is to keep the conversation going. The same with Colombians, unless they have been here long enough to be brainwashed and become Americanized.

5. In American culture, especially college age people, there is constant competition. In poorer countries people boast with their money, jobs are cars. Honestly, in the US people are modest about their money but all the competition is about who has the coolest life. This is what Instagram, Facebook, Twitter and all this other crap is for. People have to tell everybody else about the slightest fun thing they do to increase their status.

I always felt like girls tried to estimate me - how many friends I have, what parties I go to, etc, etc. I was always thinking - "Who the hell are you to judge my life? It's probably way more fun than yours, and yet, you are trying to give me an estimate? Go to hell".

I can go forever. I am leaving this country, partly because I can't deal with American girls anymore. They are ugly, boring and superficial. Every slight interaction with Russian or Latino girls still shows me how bad it is in the US. I am going to Colombia in 10 days. The only place I love here in New York, because it has the most foreigners.

My condolences to all American guys.

6. Foreign women have what the French call joie de vivre. When they enjoy something, they really enjoy it. If you're funny, they'll belly-laugh. If the music's great, they'll really get into it. What they don't do it snub your jokes and say "hardy har-har." America's Puritanical strain has filtered down through the ages in a way that's resulted in American women believing it's some sort of sin to laugh.

7. Foreign women often have great voices. Here in the mid-Atlantic, radio stations run ads for a chain of convenience stores called Royal Farms. They feature an annoying woman's voice with a flat, nasal drone.
It's got to be the unsexiest voice I've ever heard...and it's a very typical American woman's voice, sad to say. The foreign women I know don't sound like someone is holding their nose when they speak -- they have throaty, real voices that drip with sex. If you're going to hear a voice day-in-day-out it needs to be pleasant.

8. Foreign women are cool with nudity. I'll never forget a female exchange student from Germany I knew in college, Sylvie, who would often hang in her dorm room topless. Until her uptight, feminist, lacrosse-playing roommate complained to the RA and Sylvie was forced to cover herself. I don't need to say anymore here -- let that serve as an allegory.

9. Foreign women don't act like everything is a battle. Foreign women will debate you, then have a drink with you -- just like guys will. With American women, if you disagree you insult their "honor," then they act liek you're supposed to crawl back to them. No thanks. They behave like children, but expect the respect of adults.

10. Foreign women, from what I've seen, don't get hysterical over sex. They don't act like it's a "sin." They don't have obsessions with "rape culture." They don't see it as a thing to barter. They seems way more comfortable with their sexuality. They can walk in heels like women, not like ducks.

11. Foreign women have better walks. American women scurry. Foreign women sashay. I HATE when women scurry.

The only way to know the real differences between foreign girls and American girls is to visit these places yourself.

No amount of symbolic information can ever account to one realistic interaction.

Don't let no one write your life for you. Ask for guidance so you can prepare accordingly for the situation but remember to go out and actually live them.

American women scurry. Foreign women sashay. I HATE when women scurry.

This is great.