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04-29-2017, 01:20 PM
His website is a bit of a mess - too much going on. Can someone summarize the method?
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04-29-2017, 01:50 PM
I have an eye doctor who is about two hours away. She has given me exercises which have improved my vision. The exercises involved light therapy and coordinating my muscles to work together. She calls it behavioral optometry.
A lot of the stuff within the eye doctor establishment is bull shit. I wish I had known about it years ago. I am sure it would have made a huge difference.
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04-29-2017, 02:06 PM
Meh. When it comes to organs as sensitive as eyes, I think I'll pass. I think of these eye exercises and programs the same as penis exercises--high risk for a not-so-certain reward.
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05-06-2017, 12:11 PM
I got LASIK and it was one of the best decisions I've ever made. I went with Kraff in Chicago (one of the first doctors in the US to start doing the surgery) on the recommendation of several people and my results were amazing. I'm sure you could get it for much cheaper, but doesn't feel like one of those things you want to save money on!
My mom has some eye trouble, so I did some research, and ordered her some Bilberry supplements. Basically an anti-oxidant for the eye, she says it helped. I've also been thinking about using it, because I use an anti-depressant light box and L-Tryptophan, both of which are supposed to be bad for your eyes. Anyone try this?
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05-06-2017, 04:50 PM
Nearsightedness is caused by a structural change to the eye. You can't reverse structural changes to the eye (yet) without surgery. Making your eyes work harder to focus by using a lower prescription or no prescription strains them and in some cases will make your vision worse (not to mention headaches). Same goes with not having a proper prescription (ex: wearing glasses/contacts without astigmatism correction when you have astigmatism).
Also if you have a higher prescription already lasik probably won't give you 20/20, it will usually revert some over time to leave you with a lesser prescription. If it doesn't give you 20/20 it kind of defeats the purpose of taking the risk with the surgery even if chance for side effects or complications are low if you still need glasses/contacts. And once you have the "flap" there's always a risk of eye injury with any type of unexpected contact to the eye.
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09-19-2017, 09:11 AM
Thanks redbeard, I'll read it. It's been about 4 months since you've been following his routine, right? Have you seen any improvements yet?
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09-19-2017, 12:51 PM
Want to cosign this, redbeard got me on the endmyopia train. First pair of normalized glasses I dropped from
Right (OD)-6.00-2.25167
Left (OS)-6.25-2.50010
to
Right Eye (OD) -5.25 -2.00 168
Left Eye (OS) -5.5 -2.25 007
It felt great! It's true, the mainstream optometry industry overprescribes the hell out of glasses to give you that crazy vision... for a few weeks. This big a drop feels completely fine. IT WAS UNNECESSARY OVERCORRECTION.
I am now wearing:
Right Eye (OD) -5.00 -2.00 168
Left Eye (OS) -5.25 -2.25 007
and it still feels more or less completely fine. Only words about 40 feet away are blurry, but I need to start restrengthening my eyes' natural focus ability at distance. I turn on flux on all my devices, phones and computers to 3300K during the day, and down to 2300K at night. Cut out that blue light and reduce eye strain. Get a bigger computer and bigger monitors, make the text huge. Stop forcing your eyes to focus on tiny text. Audiobooks and not reading in cars or planes is huge, as focus on a moving object so intently is killer. I'm making sure my mindpower is also aimed at helping my eyes improve, staying extremely positive and very happy about this incredible progress so far.
Soon I will drop another .25 astig from my left eye to equalize so that I can bring it in line with my contacts. Mainstream medical industry BTFO once again!
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09-26-2017, 09:37 AM
Don't go to an optometrist. Go to an ophthalmologist. They tend to be much more conservative when prescribing.
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02-13-2018, 10:25 PM
Update: I am now using my differentials full time, since I am working at a computer the whole day. I still felt some eye strain so I am reducing my sphere a tad further.
I am now at:
Right Eye (OD) -4.25 -1.75 168
Left Eye (OS) -4.25 -2.25 007
I have equalized my sphere now, let me right eye take a break for one pair. I increased my astig on my right eye back to 2.25 because contacts only have astig in increments of .5, from 1.75 to 2.25. Thus, I didn't want constant focal plane changes fucking with my eye, just decided to focus on sphere for right now, before I have to jump the right astig down by .5 diopter. I will probably stay at this level for another few months.
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05-30-2018, 02:09 PM
Today I started wearing my first pair of fully equalized differentials. Left eye is feeling a bit funky as it adjusts to the sharper cylinder drop but no serious headache or significant blur. This I think I will be stable at for quite some time before making any further moves.
I am now at:
Right (OD) -4.25 -1.75 168
Left (OS) -4.25 -1.75 007
Worth remembering that my original prescription when I started this journey was:
Right (OD) -6.00 -2.25 167
Left (OS) -6.25 -2.50 010
Also worth noting that the 2 full diopter drop is for my differentials, which I wear almost full time anyways, but limits my distance vision on purpose since my job is entirely computer based. My normalized sphere is -4.75.
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05-31-2018, 11:17 AM
I have also been trying to improve my vision for years, first with the Bates method, then with a website called gettingstronger.org. Haven't really had much success, but didn't try too hard.
I've since stumbled upon endmyopia.org and Cliff Gnu's free ebook. I've ordered glasses from zennioptical.com for both distance and reading and have corrected them based on Cliff's recommendations. The glasses will arrive in a week. I'm going to try out Cliff's method first in earnest before resorting to buying Jake Steiner's program for $1,200.
Since I was a little fat kid, who wanted to get skinny, I've always enjoyed focusing on self-improvement, especially when it came to various parts of my body. Improving my myopia that I've had since I was 10 has been high on my bucket list, but I would generally give up too easily since the improvements would come so slowly.
Not now. Jake Steiner makes it clear that you'll have some early success the first 90 days, perhaps dropping your prescription by a full diopter. After that it's a slog to reduce your diopters, but if you keep at it, just like with a diet or exercise program, you'll see results.
Based on Jake's, Cliff's and Todd Becker's recommendations I'm doing the following steps:
- Order two pair of glasses, one for reading, one for distance. They will be undercorrected. I will share the settings upon receiving the glasses and beginning the program in earnest.
- Set up a Snellen chart in my condo
- When working on the computer, get up once an hour and walk around a few minutes, looking in the distance. Thankfully I have an office with good light, where I can look in the distance down Park Ave.
- Practice active focus in the distance and print pushing close up, 2x per day, 15 minutes each time. My mistake with print pushing was to try to read while print pushing, which didn't accomplish jack shit. You actually need to focus on a letter, and constantly get rid of the blur. I now know my error and will correct this.
- Try to watch the videos and read the articles on Jake's website. They're all over the place and not in any order, which is likely on purpose and brilliant on Jake's part. He's basically saying that all of the information you need is for free on his website, but it's so disorganized that you can pay me to give it to you in a step-by-step program with some personal coaching on the side.
- Keep striving to reduce my prescription while also reducing my anisometropia.
- I'll be making a log here each time I reduce my prescription. I expect this process to last three years.
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05-31-2018, 12:43 PM
I used to wear glasses for short-sightedness but I don't wear them any more.
What helped me was the book "The Secret of Perfect Vision" by David De Angelis. The author advises that short or long sightedness can be corrected by training the eye muscles. According to him, the eye muscles can be trained in the same way as you might train your chest or leg muscles through progressive resistance training.
He developed a eye workout based on the following exercises:
1. Rotating your eyeballs to look at four corners.
2. Focusing on a fixed object in front and rotating your head whilst keeping eyes focused on the object.
3. Staring at text which is just outside your range of focus - so it's just starting to become blurry - and trying and force your eyes to focus until the text becomes clear
He also recommends getting training glasses to increase the resistance of the third exercise. If you're shortsighted, your training glasses should be calibrated for longsighted vision. If you're longsighted, your training glasses should be calibrated for shortsighted vision.
Sounds like bullshit, perhaps.
Well I followed his routine every day. I got myself some training glasses to start with but I later discarded them. I just stared at text that was far enough away to be slightly blurry and tried hard to focus for a few seconds.
I kept this up for several months and my eyesight started to improve. When I started, I wasn't able to read the text on my laptop screen unless I moved my face about 30 cm from the screen. Now I can comfortably read the text from 60 cm away. I'm still shortsighted but I can get away with not wearing glasses.
The only time I would really need to wear glasses these days is if I'm watching a foreign film at the cinema and I need to read the subtitles.
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06-11-2018, 04:14 PM
Ok, I received my distance and reading glasses this weekend, have now begun wearing them full time.
First, my eyeglass prescription written out by my ophthalmologist:
OD: -4.25 -0.50 x 160
OS: -4.75 -0.50 x 030
I've ordered the following distance glasses and reading glasses from Zenni:
Distance:
OD - Right (SPH) -4.0 (CYL) -0.25 Axis 160.0
OS - Left (SPH) -4.25 (CYL) -0.25 Axis 30.0
Reading:
OD - Right (SPH) -3.0 (CYL) 0.0 Axis 0.0
OS - Left (SPH) -3.25 (CYL) 0.0 Axis 0.0
I've also begun doing print pushing, at least once a day. I'll keep you updated after I've made improvements.