Quote: (05-28-2018 04:22 PM)Arcite Wrote:
Quote: (05-28-2018 01:45 PM)Lance Blastoff Wrote:
In short, his "real life" sucked.
But I thought that's what "game" was all about, at least in the early days: faking it till you make it. I read The Game and The Venusian Arts Handbook and Magic Bullets and watched David Deangelo videos, and that seemed to be the whole point: that girls didn't care what you day job was, they just cared about how charming and charismatic you are. It seemed to be all about regular guys starting with canned material and just learning to talk to girls the right way in order to get them into bed.
Fair enough. I think we've seen where these paths led.
I remember seeing a picture of Mystery walking with his daughter in a stroller while his skank girlfriend / wife / baby momma smoked a cigarette three feet away. What a catch!
The best advice out of 'second wave PUA-ism' is to not let pussy rule your world. When you're in your 20s and 30s, you need to have your focus be on building the foundation. Bitches will respect that and the good ones will accommodate your professional focus.
I think that these guys had a valuable role to play - helping incel types learn how to approach girls. But the value of their advice is clearly very limited - as illustrated by how their lives turned out. (Mystery married to a white trash skank, Roissy disgraced and retreating into nihilism.)
They also perpetuated the myth that game could trump everything else. It leads a lot of guys to think they're going to achieve more than is realistic. You're not going to land a supermodel if you're a short, ugly, fat, Indian, Red Lobster employee. No amount of game is going to trump that. Sorry. (Being a reasonably attractive fireman, a doughy Hedge Fund MD, maybe with game...) This lie led to a lot of wasted time, humiliation and frustration by the Elliot Rogers of the world.
The advice that I give to my younger friends has always been to focus on having your shit together, being in shape, and accomplished in some basic ways. Once those things are covered, then you can focus on game. It's the seasoning - not the steak.