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03-13-2018, 08:41 AM
Not a "true story"- but Morgan Freeman's character in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves is a classic example of this.
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03-13-2018, 09:02 AM
Tauriel, that elf-lady from The Hobbit Trilogy.
She wasn't in the original book at all. Inserted into the shit films purely for girl-power reasons. Goes without saying that she was faster, stronger,clever than any man etc.
EDIT: Also not a true story!
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03-13-2018, 09:17 AM
Every competent-though-excellent female police officer in any movie, television series or training video.
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03-13-2018, 05:06 PM
Black Heimdall, for Thor and the Avengers (Idris Elba).
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03-13-2018, 05:10 PM
The new Netflix marvel show is feminist bullshit. Jessica something, I’m more of a DC fan...as a black man I’m afraid to watch black panther for the ammount of pandering they’re doing.....but look films make movies to sell. Ofcourse they’re going to make BS to make women feel strong
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03-13-2018, 06:55 PM
Zero Dark Thirty -> supposedly true, color me skeptical. Greatly amplified this chicks role if you ask me.
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03-13-2018, 07:50 PM
Rudy had that short guy in it. Also, in The Revenant, DiCaprio's character, Hugh Glass, is not known to have had a Native American wife in real life.
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03-13-2018, 08:08 PM
For those that know a bit of aviation history, the story of the Avro Arrow is one that never fails to get Canadian aviation nerds in a lather.
(tl;dr: Canadian aerospace firm in the 50's designs advanced high-altitude interceptor, which was then nixed in favour of buying missile systems from the US. Brain drain from Cdn firms to US defence contractors ensues)
When gov't broadcaster the CBC figured they could use the story to show Canada losing out to the big bad Americans and those awful Conservatives, they came up with
The Arrow, a fictionalized account of the story of the Arrow. One of the lead engineers in the show was of course a female.
At the end of the series, they did a 'what happened to them after' series of vignettes on all the leading figures in the project. When it came to the chick, they said something like "although not a true person, (this character) is meant to represent the efforts of all the women who contributed to the project" or some such drivel. Yeah, way to make the coffee Mabel, we couldn't have done it without you.
Telling enough is the cast list: of the top ten billed, the only 2 fictional characters are the females.
This sums it up pretty well:
http://www.ggower.com/dief/text/time1.shtml
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03-13-2018, 08:54 PM
The entire cast of Hamilton.
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03-13-2018, 09:00 PM
You guys still watch films and tv series? Why?
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03-13-2018, 09:20 PM
I watched the film The Lost City of Z. It's a somewhat creative take on the life of explorer Percy Fawcett. However, for the most part, it does stay true to the actual real story, with one blaring exception.
At one point, Fawcett remarks to a very large, public audience that an important source in his research, Manuscript 512 was discovered by his wife, Nina Agnes Paterson, a key character in the film who was in real life, rather irrelevant. Nina, blushes with pride and proceeds to be a pain in the ass wife for the rest of the film, trying to convince her husband to not participate in the advancement of science and global exploration.
Unfortunately for her, Manuscript 512 was discovered by Fawcett himself at the National Library of Rio de Janeiro, which is located on a continent that she never visited.
Her role in his explorations was entirely invented, which is unfortunately, because she did play a role, the role of raising his sons. But, it would be unconscionable to praise a woman for contributing to the life of a man by contributing in a maternal role, so fuck historical fact.
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03-14-2018, 04:20 AM
seriously - almost all movies and TV series have their diversity put-ins. You can name literally ANY SERIES OR MOVIE and see it. The thread should rather search for the one exception where the diversity hires were not put in.
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03-14-2018, 05:01 AM
'Hidden Figures (2016)'
Quote from The Telegraph;
'In the film, one such figure is lead engineer Paul Stafford, a
fictional character created to embody attitudes that were typical at that time.
When real-life mathematician Katherine G Johnson – a black woman – becomes an essential member of his team, his whole world is threatened.'
Kirsten Dunst's character was also fictional;
'Two-time Golden Globe nominee Kirsten Dunst plays Nasa supervisor Vivian Mitchell (again a
fictional character created to explore the prejudices the real-life hidden figures faced) as a complex and very real person who encompasses the unspoken bias of the times.'
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/hidden...n-figures/
Kevin Costner's character, the meritocratic 'Al Harrison' wasn't real either, but rather a 'composite of several characters'.
Jesus, I'm only half-way through the Wikipedia 'historical accuracy' sub-title and I've given up already. I haven't seen the film myself, but I hate this sort of interfering with history as I just know that most of the audience will take everything in the film at face value. Honestly, it just weakens the end product. Artistic liberties is one thing, but once you just start creating characters out of thin air for 'reasons' you lose all integrity in my eyes.
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03-14-2018, 05:58 AM
I never watched Hidden Figures. I saw a film cover with fat women on the front and decided to give it a pass.
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03-14-2018, 06:09 AM
Bad Ass, the film about the 2010 AC Transit bus fight. The real fight was between a white and black man, but it was changed in the film to a Latino defending a black man from a pair of white skinheads.
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03-14-2018, 07:01 AM
I still watch it, just for the sake of it to see how it ends. Btw, where the hell is that black queen Margaret from?
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03-14-2018, 07:12 AM
Quote: (03-14-2018 06:23 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:
The BBC produces scores and scores of production where women are put into super-kick-ass roles and Britain is essentially a 40% black country in some depictions from the 1800s.
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Thank-you.
As a Brit, I was watching this thread waiting for these examples (that I couldn't quite recall the details of) to make an appearance. You posted them better than I could have, saving me the trouble.
For me, it's this historical element that troubles. This is where it crosses the line from being stupid and annoying to becoming something much more sinister.
Another example was another BBC show; '1066; A year to conquer England'. The envoy to William of Normandy was a black man and was suspiciously (to me at the time) given loads of screen-time. Now the fact that he was black (if true) would have been fascinating to me and I would have gone away from the programme having learnt something.
But .....
This is a Q&A with the show's historical consultant from the BBC owned 'History Extra' site;
Q: '
In episode one of 1066, a black character appeared as an envoy to William of Normandy. Is there precedence in history for a black man to have been in this court and in the employ of William?
A: The only near-contemporary source to mention an envoy sent by Duke William is William of Jumièges, writing shortly after the conquest, probably in the early 1070s. He says: “Harold immediately seized Edward’s kingdom, thus perjuring the fealty he had sworn to the duke. The duke then instantly dispatched messengers to Harold urging him to renounce this act of folly and with worthy submission keep the faith which he had pledged with an oath.”
Neither this nor any later accounts say anything specific about identity, let alone the ethnicity, of the ambassador.'
A simple 'No' would have done!
https://www.historyextra.com/period/norm...r-england/
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