I have a solution to this. Guys who are here complaining about EE should go then instead to Africa, and take their Western manners with them. Everyone gets happy. Less Westernization in EE, some needed more Westernization in Africa. And also you guys can still bang non westernized pussy for some more years.

Quote: (02-20-2018 09:17 AM)Aladdin Wrote:  

Acta I did not start this thread to talk about myself, but to help other members understand WHAT'S NEXT?

Poland, Ukraine and Russia to some degree are finished.

I would appreciate if you stay focused on that.

North Korea.

When the walls come tumbling down.

Quote: (02-20-2018 07:45 PM)jasond Wrote:  

If you look at future travel destinations, you will see countries that have NEVER been successful, populated by uneducated people with low IQs. Places in Latin America like Colombia, as well as all of Southeast Asia, not to mention Africa. The Caucasus countries and central Asia are rife with corruption and hardly a better bet. These countries are poor/backwards for a good reason..their people. If all you care about is racking up notches, that's fine, but finding a quality
wife/gf is a different story.

The horror.

If only we weren't barred from entry into the high IQ paradises you long for with their quality wife/girlfriend material women all around.

The horror of it all...

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:22 PM)yankeetravels Wrote:  

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:01 AM)ActaNonVerba Wrote:  

If you don't bang in your home country you won't bang anywhere else. Just a fact.

Dude, no. This is not accurate. This is just a shaming tactic westerners use to make us feel guilty about banging out abroad. The more accurate term is you can't go more than a point or two higher in quality than you get at home. I can confirm this with my own sexual history. I think maybe 15% of my lifetime bangs were in my home country and I have only been abroad for maybe 6 total months of my life (2 of them I didn't get laid at all).

The truth is, I work harder for my poon when I'm abroad and have a much more positive and confident attitude because the girls I'm after I actually desire, genuinely like, and know they're more comfortable with me. The same thing seems to apply with guys that go after EE girls. I've never been on the ground in Europe but the drive seems to be quality.

I wouldn't write off the whole part of the world though. Ukraine from reports just seems like guys are getting tired of what it always was or realized how hard it was to crack it. Poland may be westernized but there's still plenty of countries that rarely get talked about. People will find them. We have Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Estonia, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, etc. The list goes on, we just need to adapt. Hell people in SEA have had to do the same thing because rep has it Thailand has been played out when it was once the top paradise. So now we have adapted and explored nearby countries.

You can't judge until you have been in Europe. Every part of the world is very different. Exactly my point is, if you're not going to bang in your own home country (which I assume is a Westernized country, 99% of the forum members are from such countries) it's most likely you won't bang in places like Eastern Europe, Latin America etc. (especially Colombia). Those girls require gaming skills. It's everything but a shaming tactic. I wish everyone to have a good time abroad without messing things up. It's just a fact and common sense. Most guys end up blaming Westernization, globalization and what not. In the meanwhile they should just stop blaming everything and anything and step up their game.

And then you're mentioning Latvia, Croatia which have been discussed since the existence of this forum which tells me you have lack of knowledge about this subject. Latvia used to be considered fallen and now it is a hotspot again. Which tells me it is just a bunch of different stories from different guys and it's what make you make out of it for yourself.

I think it all comes down to this:Globalization is an annoying fact and can not be prevented. But outside of that, countries are constantly exposed to change. There is also the possibility that countries will change for the better. If you do not like it, you can opt for a different country. If you don't like a place, go to another country or just step up your game. Just don't complain and make things better for yourself.

Quote: (02-19-2018 03:06 PM)Aladdin Wrote:  

Even now most guys travel to EE to bang a 7, because the maximum they can bang in the West is a 6. The majority of guys bang 4s and 5s even in EE. Let's be honest. This sound ridiculous, but is the naked truth.

How many forum members are you actually running with to gather the data for these detailed spreadsheets and graphs you're apparently keeping?

Quote: (02-21-2018 01:29 AM)ActaNonVerba Wrote:  

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:22 PM)yankeetravels Wrote:  

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:01 AM)ActaNonVerba Wrote:  

If you don't bang in your home country you won't bang anywhere else. Just a fact.

Dude, no. This is not accurate. This is just a shaming tactic westerners use to make us feel guilty about banging out abroad. The more accurate term is you can't go more than a point or two higher in quality than you get at home. I can confirm this with my own sexual history. I think maybe 15% of my lifetime bangs were in my home country and I have only been abroad for maybe 6 total months of my life (2 of them I didn't get laid at all).

The truth is, I work harder for my poon when I'm abroad and have a much more positive and confident attitude because the girls I'm after I actually desire, genuinely like, and know they're more comfortable with me. The same thing seems to apply with guys that go after EE girls. I've never been on the ground in Europe but the drive seems to be quality.

I wouldn't write off the whole part of the world though. Ukraine from reports just seems like guys are getting tired of what it always was or realized how hard it was to crack it. Poland may be westernized but there's still plenty of countries that rarely get talked about. People will find them. We have Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Estonia, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, etc. The list goes on, we just need to adapt. Hell people in SEA have had to do the same thing because rep has it Thailand has been played out when it was once the top paradise. So now we have adapted and explored nearby countries.

You can't judge until you have been in Europe. Every part of the world is very different. Exactly my point is, if you're not going to bang in your own home country (which I assume is a Westernized country, 99% of the forum members are from such countries) it's most likely you won't bang in places like Eastern Europe, Latin America etc. (especially Colombia). Those girls require gaming skills. It's everything but a shaming tactic. I wish everyone to have a good time abroad without messing things up. It's just a fact and common sense. Most guys end up blaming Westernization, globalization and what not. In the meanwhile they should just stop blaming everything and anything and step up their game.

And then you're mentioning Latvia, Croatia which have been discussed since the existence of this forum which tells me you have lack of knowledge about this subject. Latvia used to be considered fallen and now it is a hotspot again. Which tells me it is just a bunch of different stories from different guys and it's what make you make out of it for yourself.

I think it all comes down to this:Globalization is an annoying fact and can not be prevented. But outside of that, countries are constantly exposed to change. There is also the possibility that countries will change for the better. If you do not like it, you can opt for a different country. If you don't like a place, go to another country or just step up your game. Just don't complain and make things better for yourself.

The EE countries I listed were not meant to be ones supporting the played out position. It was meant as ones that go UTR around here that do seem to get talked about in a positive light. I come from the US so you're correct on my background. While I've never been to Europe, I've been through Asia and have gotten girls in countries that wouldn't be considered lay-ups. I agree it takes game and globalization is a bitch, but there are parts of the world where you are either more valuable or a bigger commodity than in others.

So say the US is saturated in male value compared to an eastern country. A 5 girl in the US may have her standards set for an 8. That doesn't exist in the east. Girls typically know their value a lot better from my experience in the east. Which emphasizes my point on you may have more access to girls in the same range than you would somewhere else because of inflated female mental value and the male competition around you. If you're a 6-7 and surrounded by 8's, you're gonna lose probably but if you're surrounded by 5's, you will win.

Also, for me at least, I can't fake liking a girl. If you get used to eastern girls' attitudes and the dating world over there, I personally get PSAD coming back and am not motivated to try as hard because my dividends are simply not there for a quality girl like in other places. Then again, it may be my type.

I might be derailing the subject a bit but the point is sometimes your own preferences, motivations, and surrounding dating environment do play into how often you get laid in each area. For me, I get laid much more abroad because I'm more motivated, and my attitude is noticeably more positive and open. Some guys may be able to keep the same mental state anywhere, but I don't or can't due to my preferences and measuring my returning dividends.

Quote: (02-21-2018 03:14 AM)yankeetravels Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2018 01:29 AM)ActaNonVerba Wrote:  

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:22 PM)yankeetravels Wrote:  

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:01 AM)ActaNonVerba Wrote:  

If you don't bang in your home country you won't bang anywhere else. Just a fact.

Dude, no. This is not accurate. This is just a shaming tactic westerners use to make us feel guilty about banging out abroad. The more accurate term is you can't go more than a point or two higher in quality than you get at home. I can confirm this with my own sexual history. I think maybe 15% of my lifetime bangs were in my home country and I have only been abroad for maybe 6 total months of my life (2 of them I didn't get laid at all).

The truth is, I work harder for my poon when I'm abroad and have a much more positive and confident attitude because the girls I'm after I actually desire, genuinely like, and know they're more comfortable with me. The same thing seems to apply with guys that go after EE girls. I've never been on the ground in Europe but the drive seems to be quality.

I wouldn't write off the whole part of the world though. Ukraine from reports just seems like guys are getting tired of what it always was or realized how hard it was to crack it. Poland may be westernized but there's still plenty of countries that rarely get talked about. People will find them. We have Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Estonia, Romania, Croatia, Serbia, etc. The list goes on, we just need to adapt. Hell people in SEA have had to do the same thing because rep has it Thailand has been played out when it was once the top paradise. So now we have adapted and explored nearby countries.

You can't judge until you have been in Europe. Every part of the world is very different. Exactly my point is, if you're not going to bang in your own home country (which I assume is a Westernized country, 99% of the forum members are from such countries) it's most likely you won't bang in places like Eastern Europe, Latin America etc. (especially Colombia). Those girls require gaming skills. It's everything but a shaming tactic. I wish everyone to have a good time abroad without messing things up. It's just a fact and common sense. Most guys end up blaming Westernization, globalization and what not. In the meanwhile they should just stop blaming everything and anything and step up their game.

And then you're mentioning Latvia, Croatia which have been discussed since the existence of this forum which tells me you have lack of knowledge about this subject. Latvia used to be considered fallen and now it is a hotspot again. Which tells me it is just a bunch of different stories from different guys and it's what make you make out of it for yourself.

I think it all comes down to this:Globalization is an annoying fact and can not be prevented. But outside of that, countries are constantly exposed to change. There is also the possibility that countries will change for the better. If you do not like it, you can opt for a different country. If you don't like a place, go to another country or just step up your game. Just don't complain and make things better for yourself.

The EE countries I listed were not meant to be ones supporting the played out position. It was meant as ones that go UTR around here that do seem to get talked about in a positive light. I come from the US so you're correct on my background. While I've never been to Europe, I've been through Asia and have gotten girls in countries that wouldn't be considered lay-ups. I agree it takes game and globalization is a bitch, but there are parts of the world where you are either more valuable or a bigger commodity than in others.

So say the US is saturated in male value compared to an eastern country. A 5 girl in the US may have her standards set for an 8. That doesn't exist in the east. Girls typically know their value a lot better from my experience in the east. Which emphasizes my point on you may have more access to girls in the same range than you would somewhere else because of inflated female mental value and the male competition around you. If you're a 6-7 and surrounded by 8's, you're gonna lose probably but if you're surrounded by 5's, you will win.

Also, for me at least, I can't fake liking a girl. If you get used to eastern girls' attitudes and the dating world over there, I personally get PSAD coming back and am not motivated to try as hard because my dividends are simply not there for a quality girl like in other places. Then again, it may be my type.

I might be derailing the subject a bit but the point is sometimes your own preferences, motivations, and surrounding dating environment do play into how often you get laid in each area. For me, I get laid much more abroad because I'm more motivated, and my attitude is noticeably more positive and open. Some guys may be able to keep the same mental state anywhere, but I don't or can't due to my preferences and measuring my returning dividends.

Excellent explanation. I can only agree with everything satisfied above. This makes a lot more clear in comparison with your previous post.

I think its important to note the difference between a guy who travels abroad and bangs girls a point or two above what he bangs back home and a guy who goes abroad in the hopes of getting laid because he doesn’t get pussy back home. Then we have guys like Mr magic carpet with his ratings based on what he’s read on the interwebs and conclusions that “the east is ruined” based on talking to two random Russian chicks.

Feel free to bump any of the existing Russian/Ukraine/Poland threads with your wisdom, or better yet, go meet any of the various Poland based RVF members. If you’ve done either already then I will recant what I’ve implied in this thread but until then, take off the fedora, shave your neck and leave momma’s basement.

Quote: (02-21-2018 04:04 AM)scotian Wrote:  

I think its important to note the difference between a guy who travels abroad and bangs girls a point or two above what he bangs back home and a guy who goes abroad in the hopes of getting laid because he doesn’t get pussy back home. Then we have guys like Mr magic carpet with his ratings based on what he’s read on the interwebs and conclusions that “the east is ruined” based on talking to two random Russian chicks.

Feel free to bump any of the existing Russian/Ukraine/Poland threads with your wisdom, or better yet, go meet any of the various Poland based RVF members. If you’ve done either already then I will recant what I’ve implied in this thread but until then, take off the fedora, shave your neck and leave momma’s basement.

Post of the day.

Scotian and Beyond Borders. I don't understand why you make it personal. I work in the oil industry and have traveled extensively in the EE over the last 15 years. I have noticed the changes better than most of the guys on here, since I'm an Eastern European that speaks Russian and Polish. I'm talking based on my 15 year experience of dating EE girls and based on my observations. Well, I used to see foreigners with 7s and 8s, but not anymore. I now see foreigners with 4s and 5s and they seem to have the time of their life. Does it look good or mark the end of an era?

Quote: (02-19-2018 01:26 PM)Aladdin Wrote:  

I was thinking that there is a pessimistic atmosphere in the forum lately, as most of the traditional destinations in Europe don't deliver anymore.
Poland and Ukraine are finished and Russia is a whole different story due to visa requirements.
What are your suggestions and predictions about the future?

The pessimism is not misplaced, as the east gets more westernized it lowers a westerners social value and wealth.

But there are places that deliver. From personal experience I can tell you I liked the non-EU european countries more than the EU ones. simple, had higher value there, and money went further, also not westernized by EU and Anglo-American institutions. Even within the EU you have ton of variance, from what I've gathered from other forum members, you have good options in Hungary, Poland, etc. These EU coutnries are eastern block, and share something in common: they're all realtively new to the EU.

I have not visited russia or ukraine. But given the current political trajectory in russia, it's hard to think of them being able to keep westernizing because they're setting themselves up for a great ideological conflict, witness: the resurgance of the orthodox church and traditional values, rejection of sillicon valley technology and apps, and a movement to reject western capitol.

Ukraine is in a completely different situation. With the ongoing war the country will be a paradise for westerners for teh next 10-15 years, similar to the way russia was after the collapse of the soviet union. War costs money resources, and lives, so it will take at least 10 years or even more to recover. I can tell you this because I was in serbia, and in many ways it was visibly apparent they still had not recovered to pre-war standards. Only thing is girls will leave ukraine for the EU, but i anticipate the Poles will get pissed off about the number of ukranians in their country and do something about it. Some of the women will leave ukraine, but i think people over-estimate the amount of drive that some of these women have. How many women want to move thousands of miles away from their language, culture and families? I think we over-estimate the ambitiousness of women at times.

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:22 PM)yankeetravels Wrote:  

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:01 AM)ActaNonVerba Wrote:  

If you don't bang in your home country you won't bang anywhere else. Just a fact.

Dude, no. This is not accurate. This is just a shaming tactic westerners use to make us feel guilty about banging out abroad. The more accurate term is you can't go more than a point or two higher in quality than you get at home. I can confirm this with my own sexual history. I think maybe 15% of my lifetime bangs were in my home country and I have only been abroad for maybe 6 total months of my life (2 of them I didn't get laid at all).

You're talking about guys who are already getting laid in their home countries. That doesn't invalidate the first argument: if you don't bang at home then you don't bang anywhere else.

If you are a weirdo with 0 social skills or an obese guy with no game, how exactly will you get laid in a foreign country that speaks a language you don't understand ?

You're also not gonna bang 2 points above without changing anything. In fact, at the beginning you're more likely to bang groupies and easy sluts in the same range if not worse compared to what you can get back home. That's why you see so much bitching on the Poland/Ukraine threads.

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:22 PM)yankeetravels Wrote:  

Quote: (02-20-2018 08:01 AM)ActaNonVerba Wrote:  

If you don't bang in your home country you won't bang anywhere else. Just a fact.

Dude, no. This is not accurate.

While it may not be 100% accurate in 100% of the cases, in the majority of cases it has a bell of truth as in theory it should be easier to bang with social game at home (majority of my bangs in hometown was social game, London is a different matter) but when you're abroad you've got to work harder which is what you said you do so you're an outlier at home already.

If you put in the effort overseas then yes, odds are you'll get laid compared to home but chances are, guys who don't bang at home, they won't bang overseas.

Quote: (02-20-2018 07:45 PM)jasond Wrote:  

If you look at future travel destinations, you will see countries that have NEVER been successful, populated by uneducated people with low IQs. Places in Latin America like Colombia, as well as all of Southeast Asia, not to mention Africa.

In the EE countries, if you can speak the language well enough to have a conversation you still have unlimited access to the masses (low IQ?) who aren't westernized enough to want to speak a second language. So learning the language is like turning the clock back 15 years or more.

But yeah, for the quick bone tour, it's end days.

Quote: (02-22-2018 05:55 PM)JohnQPublic Wrote:  

In the EE countries, if you can speak the language well enough to have a conversation you still have unlimited access to the masses (low IQ?) who aren't westernized enough to want to speak a second language. So learning the language is like turning the clock back 15 years or more.

But yeah, for the quick bone tour, it's end days.

Low IQ?? I wonder how many of your country men and women speak a second language...

Quote: (02-22-2018 05:58 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

Low IQ?? I wonder how many of your country men and women speak a second language...

I was referring to a previos post. Now I added in the quote. I agree with your reply to my post.

There does have to be some acceptance that the situation has become worse, but also the pessimism of the OP is overshooting the mark.

1. Ukraine - I don't think Ukraine is finished. Obviously it's getting worse like most other places, but nothing can be done about that.
2. Russia - The last frontier in EE as far as I am concerned, apart from some of the -stans if you like slavic/turkic mix. This country is currently doing what it can to oppose westernization, yet a lot of the worst of westernization comes through technology. Most hot girls have smartphones so they are not entirely detached by any means. Still Russia won't completely go to shit.
3. Poland - It still has lots of cute girls. But the ROI is so low, you would have to sit inside for months, wait for your balls to fill up, so that your rational mind is completely overridden by horniness, so you wander around day/night approaching like a turk on crack. Roosh actually wrote about this, but from a perspective of having done what he wanted, in addition to the ROI of where he was living decreasing. But same thing essentially.

If I were to simplify it, if she's got a fairly expensive smartphone, she's inevitably westernized to some extent, wherever she is in the world. But, other factors such as certain places being overrun with sex/love tourists are also a factor as well. Certainly, it was much better before smartphones and before the EU accepted these FSU countries because the girls couldn't see all the shiny stuff they could have, what kind of man they "deserve" just for existing, and this attitude you can just feel in your gut. In the West, the true West, it is out of control, there is no "need" of women for men, the way they walk borders on disdain and contempt for men. In Poland, there is less disdain, only some degree of contempt from the worst of the women, usually older and often with attitude problems, but there is a certain sense of "We don't need you [men] anymore. We are focused on our career."

Whatever society we are in, women have to need men for us to get treated with even a basic level of respect. Men in the past have created these e-platforms, these political unions, these luxurious items, these toxic ideologies; given women the right to vote, given women the same rights as men, and now they have fucked it all up for their children, particularly their male children. There has to be a clear need, a soft dominance, an implicit subjugation, of women, by men, in order to keep their personalities in check, to be pleasant, feminine, and nurturing, as they should be, otherwise they will just run rampant. Men give women money for showing their clits on chaturbate; men even give money to deformed women with big tits on twitch without receiving anything in return; men have created a society where other men can get fired for one politically incorrect remark or one bit of failed escalation. If development of civilization were left to women we would all still be in mud huts and we know it. Thanks to men, there are human footprints on the moon. But there is also an entire world of women still so beautiful on the outside, being poisoned in the mind for many years, from younger and younger ages. Indoctrination by smartphone.

We can try and help each other out as much as we want, we can try and improve ourselves as much as we want, but we all have our limits. This situation is akin to standing on the sinking Titanic and trying to teach yourself how to fly like a bird. There are undoubtedly some nice pockets left in the world, but to pretend that it is not in decline is to bury one's head in the sand which is ultimately counterproductive, though I understand hearing the reality is not very positive or motivating, so in a community of self-improvement, I can understand why the OP's points were met with some negative responses. I don't agree with OP on the timeframe of Ukraine but agree on its direction, nor do I agree that Russia will fall easily. But men (not this small community specifically, but others over the years) have created what is now likely to destroy one of the finest pleasures in life. I understand we all like to fuck "hot" women, but what if these women were so utterly unpleasant that they were just impossible to have any sort of relationship with whatsoever, even to the point of being unable to tolerate her for 99% sex sessions? We all know that not so many decades ago, women in Montreal would have been physically attractive and feminine in personality. Nowadays, look at them, their looks and personalities, and what they did to just one man trying to give a talk to other men about how, amongst other topics, just maybe, women have declined in quality in all respects. When you have women indoctrinated like this, it's impossible to reverse. So "self-improvement" has to take a more strategic and subtle meaning beyond simply going to the gym, making money, and buying new clothes. That's not to exclude these things, but if you go out in the Rynek in Krakow at night, having a nice body, bankroll and style, you will still come up short most of the time, and if you pull anything, you will be lowering your standards, or you literally "got lucky" (usually with a foreigner groupie, hipster or Ukrainian). That is hardly the "dream" of "beautiful, sweet, EE girls who are pleasant and straightforward to deal with". Women even in EE have a lot more power these days, and men yielded it to them.

Great contributions and to the point, guys. Well, things have dramatically changed in EE. No doubt about it. EE looks like a value for money place, but is it really?
I don't think so. It makes you feel that it is, but at the end of the day, every westerner on his way to the airport doesn't feel satisfied. It's sad to see all these hot girls around and not have access.
Unfortunately, we have reached a point where even experienced players being taken for a ride by 4s and 5s. We definitely need to head somewhere else cos EE is completely played out.

^^Agreed. I think we should all go to Africa. I am already checking flights to Mogadishu.

+1

Quote: (02-21-2018 04:04 AM)scotian Wrote:  

I think its important to note the difference between a guy who travels abroad and bangs girls a point or two above what he bangs back home and a guy who goes abroad in the hopes of getting laid because he doesn’t get pussy back home. Then we have guys like Mr magic carpet with his ratings based on what he’s read on the interwebs and conclusions that “the east is ruined” based on talking to two random Russian chicks.

Feel free to bump any of the existing Russian/Ukraine/Poland threads with your wisdom, or better yet, go meet any of the various Poland based RVF members. If you’ve done either already then I will recant what I’ve implied in this thread but until then, take off the fedora, shave your neck and leave momma’s basement.

Some guys might not be banging women on a daily basis in their home countries because they are not attracted by those women to begin with. If I lived in an Asian country I wouldnt be banging women because I'm not sexually attracted/turned on by Asian women hence I would have to go to other countries where the women I am attracted/turned on at least exist.

Quote: (02-23-2018 10:35 AM)Aladdin Wrote:  

Great contributions and to the point, guys. Well, things have dramatically changed in EE. No doubt about it. EE looks like a value for money place, but is it really?
I don't think so. It makes you feel that it is, but at the end of the day, every westerner on his way to the airport doesn't feel satisfied. It's sad to see all these hot girls around and not have access.
Unfortunately, we have reached a point where even experienced players being taken for a ride by 4s and 5s. We definitely need to head somewhere else cos EE is completely played out.

Now I realize why your name is Aladdin. You have been rubbing the magic lamp of genie and used one of your 3 valuable wishes to find out how all Westerners feel. How else would you know, right? I can't think of any other way.

Some solid critiques of the OP in this thread notwithstanding, I do lean toward the pessimist side. Even Africa, that's basically thrown in there more or less as a joke, is getting worse. The culprit is the same as everywhere else: smartphones and social media. When I say it's getting worse, I'm not saying it's suddenly difficult to get laid (that is still ridiculously easy, in my opinion), but the attitudes, attention whoring and general behavior of girls is getting worse. You can still bang hot girls, but the overall experience tends to be more blah.

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Quote: (02-23-2018 12:36 PM)TigerTim Wrote:  

Quote: (02-21-2018 04:04 AM)scotian Wrote:  

I think its important to note the difference between a guy who travels abroad and bangs girls a point or two above what he bangs back home and a guy who goes abroad in the hopes of getting laid because he doesn’t get pussy back home. Then we have guys like Mr magic carpet with his ratings based on what he’s read on the interwebs and conclusions that “the east is ruined” based on talking to two random Russian chicks.

Feel free to bump any of the existing Russian/Ukraine/Poland threads with your wisdom, or better yet, go meet any of the various Poland based RVF members. If you’ve done either already then I will recant what I’ve implied in this thread but until then, take off the fedora, shave your neck and leave momma’s basement.

Some guys might not be banging women on a daily basis in their home countries because they are not attracted by those women to begin with. If I lived in an Asian country I wouldnt be banging women because I'm not sexually attracted/turned on by Asian women hence I would have to go to other countries where the women I am attracted/turned on at least exist.

I don’t particularly like Canadian women but I still fuck them when I’m home, any port in a storm boys! So you’re saying that if you were stuck in Asia you’d give up sex altogether, don’t you get horny? If I was in the Australian outback I’d still fucking the hideous aboriginal women there, different atrokes for different folks I guess.

Instead of going to Africa I suggest everyone who feels like everything has fallen and been overrun to go fully MGTOW!

Africa is deadly (both literally and figuratively) for the white man. Those African hoes love white cock.