Quote: (07-01-2016 06:02 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

Felicia Day...

...A "5" is basically kinda like her, but with "regular" colored hair in a short hairstyle and like 15-20 pounds overweight.

That's a solid assessment, but I'd flip the hair color. Obviously fake dyed-hair has rapidly-become a signifier of either low sexual value for the fatties, or mental damage for the skinny girls, at least in Australia. Dying your hair green or blue also also now seems to be a very mid-forties thing to do.

This is how I think of it:

A 6 is just your average girl. This is the majority of women you'll meet out there. You might talk to her in a social situation, exchange a few words waiting in line for something, or charm her if she's working reception. You'd probably notice she's a butterface, or could improve her looks a notch with some styling effort, which suggest I'm still thinking of them sexually.

5 is usually-where short hair and dumpiness kicks in. 5 is the invisible side of average. Not noteworthy enough to be outright ugly, via age or excessive weight or disfigurement - just sort of dumpy, plain and there. With that, there's no longer any sexual appraisal from you at all the same way you wouldn't consider banging wallpaper.

Whilst there's something Mom-ish about them, you can't really imagine them as mothers. Instead, they give off an air of belonging on committees, organizing things.

You wouldn't make much of an effort in a social situation, and conversation is brutally-short and directly on point. 5's are the spot where men start treating women the way the majority of women treat men they have no sexual interest in - function-based and goal-serving, and once those needs are met, they cease to exist in your mind.

The 5's natural habitats are the Public Service, Government and Education. It's rare to spot a 6 somewhere like, let's say The Department of Housing, and you'll never see a 7 and above, because those women have no trouble finding private employment.

You'd never mistake a 6 for a trannie, but you might wonder about a 5 in the wrong light.

AB's post covers just about everything. I would only add this. I find the 6 to 5 transition also manifests in the way that the woman responds to the man.

Fives tend to be way more defensive around guys with game to the point of being obnoxious and standoffish (where the sexes differ, because a male 5 will still act like a puppy for a female 7). A six generally responds positively to men because her presence still triggers a sexual response. She likes the attention and reciprocates when she receives it, but a five doesn't get that vibe and as such becomes reflexively hostile toward men (unless they're delusional about their SMV).

This is surely part of the basis for massively obnoxious behaviour found in the public service.

Quote: (07-03-2016 04:51 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

AB's post covers just about everything. I would only add this. I find the 6 to 5 transition also manifests in the way that the woman responds to the man.

Fives tend to be way more defensive around guys with game to the point of being obnoxious and standoffish (where the sexes differ, because a male 5 will still act like a puppy for a female 7). A six generally responds positively to men because her presence still triggers a sexual response. She likes the attention and reciprocates when she receives it, but a five doesn't get that vibe and as such becomes reflexively hostile toward men (unless they're delusional about their SMV).

This is surely part of the basis for massively obnoxious behaviour found in the public service.

That's a good point. A "6" is a girl who knows that while she may not be the prettiest girl on the block, she's secure enough in her appearance that she feels comfortable "striking above her level." She's been pumped and dumped by a few guys with game who are objectively higher on the totem pole than her, sure, but she's also had a few relationships with them she was satisfied with.

I have much respect for some of the"6es" of the world. The ones who are still pleasant by their late 20s are the ones who recognized that they weren't born stunners who were going to get everything handed to them, but decided to work with what they got.

Obnoxious, standoffish 5s know that they're just pump and dump material. They can only get validation by blowing off guys with game that objectively have more SMV than them; it's simply a case of sour grapes. Unfortunately this fashion of cunt is all too common around here in SJW land. If they're giving you attitude you should really take it as a compliment.

Sad thing is that probably 50% of "5s" could become a solid "6" if they lost 20 pounds, got a better hairstyle, and stopped being obnoxious. At that point they could probably have some decent success running alongside the heavyweight "7s" and "8s" of the world. But that takes work. It's hard.

I find that girls who are below 5s for issues other than weight are often also pleasant (though I wouldn't want to bang them
), like some of the unfortunate women in that silly "What's a '1'?" thread. They survived because they developed an internal courage.

There's a young black woman who's a clerk at a convenience store near me who's missing part of one arm and several fingers on the other hand - it looks very much like they were blown off by an explosive. I can only imagine the story behind that, but even so she's still one of the friendliest people I deal with each day.

^Feminist indoctrination. They ain't got to change themselves for no man! They're beautiful just the way they are and it's men that have to change their unrealistic expectations! Convenient, because it means never having to lose the weight. Less convenient in the long run, when they wake up with a mop of grey hair and a house full of cats.

Quote: (07-03-2016 10:59 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

^Feminist indoctrination. They ain't got to change themselves for no man! They're beautiful just the way they are and it's men that have to change their unrealistic expectations! Convenient, because it means never having to lose the weight. Less convenient in the long run, when they wake up with a mop of grey hair and a house full of cats.

Well, like any political or social philosophy, feminism probably isn't monolithic. I admit I've banged a girl or two with "feminist" leanings, given that I live in the belly of the beast and it's hard to find a girl who doesn't.

The difference is they weren't as hardcore into the histrionic SJW side of it, and probably learned a somewhat different lesson: self-improvement vs. acceptance, "autoplastic" coping styles vs "alloplastic" coping styles. They probably tend to come from less affluent (though still politically liberal) families.

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In other words: abusers blame the world - circumstances, other people - for their defeats, misfortune, misconduct, and failures (alloplastic defenses). The abuser firmly believes that his life is fully controlled by currents and persons over which and whom he has no influence whatsoever (external locus of control.)

http://samvak.tripod.com/abuse4.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alloplastic_adaptation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoplastic_adaptation

Seems like at one point that might have been what "paleo-feminism" was about - more along the lines of self-actualization than attempting to shame the world into being what you wanted it to be. But being narcissistic and trying to bend the world to your will feels easier, all it requires is a Tumblr post, so these days the tidal wave of histrionics drown them out.

I consider myself to be more politically liberal than conservative as well, it's just that I learned a different lesson than most SWPLers did.

This is my definition of a 5.

A five is a fat girl with a decently pretty face, a slim girl with a butter face, or a blend of the two (thick/chubby with OK face)

A girl with a slim body and an attractive face is AT LEAST a 6.

Going through this thread, I've been really hard on how I've rated my bangs. My last two LTRs would count as 7-8 per the various photos/charts shown in this thread.

Quote: (10-13-2017 08:03 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  

Going through this thread, I've been really hard on how I've rated my bangs. My last two LTRs would count as 7-8 per the various photos/charts shown in this thread.

Yeah man, completely agree. But you gotta figure that it's such a sliding scale. It honestly depends on the looks and game of the person making the ratings. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" This thread is filled with ridiculousness and inequalities. People trolling make it even more frustrating. To me, a 1-5 is a no go... 1-4 you'd never fuck under any circumstance. A 5 is the lowest you'd go when completely hammered. Maybe she had some extra lbs, maybe some acne, but certainly not a sewer dweller. 6's are usually plain girls that could easily be 7's with some minor adjustments. 7's are pretty girls. Maybe could lose 5-10 lbs? Ones that are in demand from normal guys with no game are probably 6's and 7's. 8's are naturally pretty, with great bodies, and 9 are civilian models. 10's...we don't see many of them, but are usually IG models or in the rare sense, actual models. If you are in a good city, with good looks and game, you should be banging 7's and 8's with the occasional 9 or 10 mixed in when you are on top of your game... With this being said, people the that you are "in tuned" with should probably evaluate on the same scale as you +/- 1. You may see a 6 that others see as a 7 and vice versa.

You guys have arbitrary ways of rating so let me try to make it as simple as possible

10- is model status. Now we know there are different types of models for different avenues in the industry but the point is the bitch is beautiful enough to be in magazines, videos, runways, in commercials (where the purpose is having a sexy woman to sell the product) that's a 10, there aren't many of them but you will see them every now and then, if you live in big cities you will see them more. A 10 is more than a girl with a cute face and big tits, she has the whole package.

9- is a fine bitch. Like you see her walking down the street and you're heart jumps a little bit. What stops her from being a 10 is she isn't necessarily photogenic enough to be a model. Maybe everything else is great but she has a "funny nose", one that wouldn't look good in pictures. Or maybe the face is beautiful and the body is "good" even great but not amazing. She doesn't check every box but she checks the majority of them.

8- She's cute. She looks good, nobody would be embarrassed to show her to people. She's status quo for what "attractive" is. Now maybe she has a cute face, great tits but the rest is just "okay". Not chubby, being in shape is a requirement but maybe she's kind of short. Point being she's attractive and if one of your boys saw you with her they would give you the thumbs up.

7- is a "cute-ish" lookin bitch. Like she's kinda cute, got nice legs, nice ass but a big forehead. Like you would fuck and enjoy it but its not the end of the world if you don't get her. Now 7's can vary. I'm an ass man. If she has a CRAZY ASS, in shape, but as a duck face (4 in the face) she's still a 7 to me. But this vary's for people. Point is a 7 can have a HURT face but an amazing body, whatever you define as an amazing body. Or she can have a really cute face and an (Okay body) like you see her and go (I'm not mad at that). But still not into chubby territory tho.

6- is a "Meh". There are some attractive things about her, (other than the fact she has a vagina) But you're still not really trippin. Now we can get into the "chubby" territory. Maybe she's cute but packing some extra weight, this makes her go from being a potential 8 even, down to a 6 with an excess of 30 pounds on her. Doesn't mean she's fat but a 6 doesn't have any great physical features, maybe some decent ones if they are in shape, but I think you guys get the drift.

5- is a "who cares". Like who cares if I smash, who cares if I don't. You don't really have a feeling about it, you feel neutral. She's not "ugly" but not attractive, and if you were in a relationship with this person you would feel some regret. A 5 is the type of girl the weirdo at your job would be married to and when you see them you go "that's what I would expect" no harm, no foul but beneath your standards as someone to take a real romantic interest in.

4- A hole. Literally just a hole. Maybe she gives great blow jobs, only reason to think twice about her

3- is you're pathetic. No not her, you are for even thinking about fucking her.

2- despicable. Agustus gloop lookin bitch

1- deformed

Quote: (12-04-2015 09:06 AM)Jesus Christ Wrote:  

Really it is a 4-9 scale. The 9 is the absolute hottest girl possible. 10s don't exist. A 5 is disgusting. A 4 is deformed. I cannot think of a single girl in my whole life I would call a 3, she would have to be almost subhuman or have some kind of facial disease. Otherwise I think the scale starts at 4 and goes only up to 9.

This is a 4:


This is a 5:


This is a 6:


This a 7:


This is an 8:


This is a 9:

You're scale is all fucked up. the 4 is a 1, the 5 is a 4, the 6 is a 5 and the 7 might be an 8 but I need to see the rest of her body, and the 9 is clearly a 10.

Quote: (10-17-2017 11:45 AM)Grizwald1400 Wrote:  

You guys have arbitrary ways of rating so let me try to make it as simple as possible

10- is model status. Now we know there are different types of models for different avenues in the industry but the point is the bitch is beautiful enough to be in magazines, videos, runways, in commercials (where the purpose is having a sexy woman to sell the product) that's a 10, there aren't many of them but you will see them every now and then, if you live in big cities you will see them more. A 10 is more than a girl with a cute face and big tits, she has the whole package.

9- is a fine bitch. Like you see her walking down the street and you're heart jumps a little bit. What stops her from being a 10 is she isn't necessarily photogenic enough to be a model. Maybe everything else is great but she has a "funny nose", one that wouldn't look good in pictures. Or maybe the face is beautiful and the body is "good" even great but not amazing. She doesn't check every box but she checks the majority of them.

8- She's cute. She looks good, nobody would be embarrassed to show her to people. She's status quo for what "attractive" is. Now maybe she has a cute face, great tits but the rest is just "okay". Not chubby, being in shape is a requirement but maybe she's kind of short. Point being she's attractive and if one of your boys saw you with her they would give you the thumbs up.

7- is a "cute-ish" lookin bitch. Like she's kinda cute, got nice legs, nice ass but a big forehead. Like you would fuck and enjoy it but its not the end of the world if you don't get her. Now 7's can vary. I'm an ass man. If she has a CRAZY ASS, in shape, but as a duck face (4 in the face) she's still a 7 to me. But this vary's for people. Point is a 7 can have a HURT face but an amazing body, whatever you define as an amazing body. Or she can have a really cute face and an (Okay body) like you see her and go (I'm not mad at that). But still not into chubby territory tho.

6- is a "Meh". There are some attractive things about her, (other than the fact she has a vagina) But you're still not really trippin. Now we can get into the "chubby" territory. Maybe she's cute but packing some extra weight, this makes her go from being a potential 8 even, down to a 6 with an excess of 30 pounds on her. Doesn't mean she's fat but a 6 doesn't have any great physical features, maybe some decent ones if they are in shape, but I think you guys get the drift.

5- is a "who cares". Like who cares if I smash, who cares if I don't. You don't really have a feeling about it, you feel neutral. She's not "ugly" but not attractive, and if you were in a relationship with this person you would feel some regret. A 5 is the type of girl the weirdo at your job would be married to and when you see them you go "that's what I would expect" no harm, no foul but beneath your standards as someone to take a real romantic interest in.

4- A hole. Literally just a hole. Maybe she gives great blow jobs, only reason to think twice about her

3- is you're pathetic. No not her, you are for even thinking about fucking her.

2- despicable. Agustus gloop lookin bitch

1- deformed

Actually I agree to this post.
There are a lot of people just throwing arbitrary numbers like 2, 3, 4, to girls who are NOT FAT. If they are not fat and they are not ugly, they are a 5. Maybe if they are ugly, then they might have a "nice" body, but not amazing body. They might have a nice face, but a some fat.
That is the definition of a 5.

Of course this depends on your smv (as long as you're over 5), but I think a 5 is the level at which you start to think you're so clearly above her, it doesn't matter to you and she'd obviously be glad to, let's say, blow you. The kind that even on a whim it doesn't matter to her, in a sense it was almost as enjoyable for her to slob your knob than it was you. Generally a not ugly but chubby (as above) girl that you'd never truly take on a date. Usually these types already know they are desired for such easy endeavors and that's enough of a validation for them, as you would never truly go out on dates with them, just a drink to see what happens.

Below this level you really start getting into the dumpster diving category. They look so weird and/or ugly you wouldn't even let them suck your dick if they just approached you and begged to do it.

10 = Perfect (therefore a 10 cannot humanly exist)
9 = Ridiculously hot (the maximum a girl can be) e.g. Emrata & Miranda Kerr in her prime
8 = Hot e.g. Anna Kornikova & Sienna Miller in their prime
7 = Cute e.g. Charlize Theron in her prime
6 = Decent e.g. Lily Allen in her prime
5 = Borderline (only for desperate low SMV men)
1-4 = Ugly (basically they have excluded themselves from the dating market)

Here's a 5, NSFW

Quote: (10-17-2017 07:46 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Here's a 5, NSFW

A slim blue eyed girl with long hair and wide hips. Young with nice skin. Face a bit meh, but I think cute.

Why is she a 5?

Quote: (05-22-2011 01:21 PM)SFTD Wrote:  

I'm posting this as a confession of my shameful beta past. Redeeming factor was nice big tits. Otherwise... *shame*

Done worse. But I found out the hard way that I absolutely do have standards, so that was a plus.

I am starting to rethink the rating system. Isnt it pedantic? Bang or would not bang should suffice.

Quote: (10-17-2017 09:51 PM)GreenHills Wrote:  

Quote: (10-17-2017 07:46 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

Here's a 5, NSFW

A slim blue eyed girl with long hair and wide hips. Young with nice skin. Face a bit meh, but I think cute.

Why is she a 5?

No ass, small breasts, you can see her ribs, twig arms, big hook nose. But those are balanced out by the things you point out, so she’s a 5. Neutral.

^^
Not a 5. Fit, wide hips, long hair, friendly and decently cute face. 5s don't catch my dicks attention and she definitely does. I say approaching a 7 but not quite pretty enough to get there.

Interested to see your definition of a 7 YoungBlade

That's a 7 without hesitation. Maybe YoungBlade is too busy masturbating on the net, that he's forgotten what average girls look like in real life.

5 is a completely fucking average chick that's not ugly but doesn't do anything for your boner and isn't worth hitting on or spending time or resources on. Basically a chick that you might bang if you're horny and lonely and she's throwing the pussy at you. A 6 is a bit better than average, barely bangable. 7 is cute/butterfacey. 8 is hot. 9 is smoking hot and gorgeous. A 10 is a 9 with something extra special about her that appeals to you. Anything below 5 is trash.

This is a 5 (barely) for me:



For Comparison:

A 7:



A 9:

Sarah Jessica Parker (from Sex N' the City fame) I'd consider a 5. wnb

Quote: (10-18-2017 09:06 AM)TrifeLife Wrote:  

^^
Not a 5. Fit, wide hips, long hair, friendly and decently cute face. 5s don't catch my dicks attention and she definitely does. I say approaching a 7 but not quite pretty enough to get there.

Interested to see your definition of a 7 YoungBlade

These are 7s. Good bodies, but their faces are slightly off