Quote: (07-31-2017 03:06 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Zelcorpion, seriously everyone of your posts here start with "I've heard from guys with game that...".

You have no place or cred in this part of the forum. Stop shitting on fully functioning threads with your Lonely Planet keyboard jockeying. If you don't travel you should apologize for even dreaming about thinking your opinions matter here.

Interesting that you forbid me for talking about certain topics. You know exactly what women I have fucked and dated and in what cities I guess? You are the utmost arbitrary divine judge who shall now decide who here can voice what opinion on what subject, because the all-knowing Vicious has access to all-encompassing knowledge of each member here.

Calm down buddy. I voiced my reasons why I take the opinions of guys more seriously who lived there for a longer time period. But your belligerent tone is noted.

NYC is an ULTRA CITY...Think of whatever life you wanna live and it can be had on some scale in NY. In terms of girls, I've never left NY yet had more variety than most would have in a lifetime

HOWEVER...

London = Location (If you don't have time to fly around than this is irrelevant & london must take an L)

I've never been to london BUT as my close friends have said (1 in this thread) london women wise is "meh"...However, check the high end scene. If that isn't your thing then again whether you go to NY or London makes no difference as NY population on a whole is meh. Great for diversity though.

Only place you can be with an attractive latina 1 day & then a tall asian model the next.

Lifestyle wise...Clubs in london close earlier...The diversity isn't as PROGRESSIVE. Imagine being at some speakeasy type spot in brighton beach with newly arrived russians. Contrast UK lots of middle eastern, indians, etc...Those culturals aren't really built on such bachelor/Independent lifestyles.

Heck, hip hop strip club scene has some freaks of nature type women...UK at best, those thick brits who peak rather quickly. Although...Must say british chicks who HAPPEN TO BE WITTY are always awesome female friends to have.

Me personally...I seen the top teir in terms of women in NY. It SUCKS compared to years prior to my era & was good enough 2011-2013 BUT...

To the average man it would seem like paradise. Issue is...YOU BETTER BE COMPETENT at navigating. It's kind of like london membership clubs. (Irony years ago met a tall hot UK girl who frequented such venues in UK and was looking for the NY equivalent)

So if location to travel...And high end clubs taken out of equation...

NYC vs London comes down to what you want outside of women. Can't speak for london BUT...
- NY food scene is top tier from cheap to fine dining while also being very diverse (Even west coast peeps says NY has stepped up on its mexican food)

- NY is a society of subcultures...From burners to psytrance to artsy realms to fitness realms. You can find a realm that is of quality within your areas of interest.

- Manhattan isn't the ONLY AREA...Yes it's awesome BUT you could stay within queens or brooklyn and still lead an awesome life.

- Lots of FREE social events & social events EVERYDAY...I've seen lazertag parties, silent parties, block parties, free yoga, movies in the park. In the high end scene alone you can technically party 7 DAYS A WEEK from 5am till the am EVERYDAY.

- Most people don't know what's going on in the city...There is just too much going on. A tourist shows up and all they are lucky to know COLD is time square, trendy clubs & restaurants. You as a local can take a tourist through a diverse experience within a weekend.

Keep in mind, I've very little travel experience BUT based on peoples compilants of "boring" that isn't something that requires any effort in NY. It could be a BLIZZARD and somethings are still going on.

The MYTH of "city that never sleeps" is false in the sense that compared to the world YEA it seems bumping BUT it's NOT COMMON. Most people don't do much. Flipside, that same person living that "city that never sleeps" with some effort could replicate that in any city they're in. It's a way of life more than an actual cultural thing within the city.

For most part NY has been sterilized of its authenicity, this has PROS & CONS but simply a natural progression due to other travellers confirming NY is awesome YET most don't have the $$$ to sufficiently live in the heart of the city so you're paying for POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES which is what most people see.

P.S...A city stands based on YOU & the possibilities it gives you. The NY Metro area isn't going to be on par with a cheap flight anywhere in europe...What you'll find in US is a "small town" mentality where it just feels like people trying to survive. Atleast a flight from london to any city could lead to connections to "mover shakers" within respective country cities...

P.S.S...I will forever love NY as it built me BUT if you've been here long you'll want to snap out of this delusion the city puts you in. You could feel the westernized initiative & hunger to "make it" and/or "survive". This can make you forget life is about EXPERIENCE and INTERACTION. Yet, there isn't much places to detox outside montreal which isn't even in the US. Unless gonna go out in nature or some shit...Most people who live in NY never even get to enjoy it.

@Giama, I spent 5 weeks in Brazil 2 years ago and I had there some of the most beautiful women that I knew in my life. They were super hot and at the same time sweet and caring, sex came quickly and naturally. After experiencing this I can tell you I have no patience for London girls. Like you I like the caramel and brown curvy chicks, the ones born here have terrible attitudes as the white ones, maybe even worse.

OP, if you decide to come to London I hope it's not just for girls, sure you can travel to other european countries but as others mentioned if you wanna come for the girls and you end up travelling each weekend to eastern Europe on top of paying a high rent in London then better to go to the source directly.

Whatever you decide my advice is to make sure you have the opportunity to come back to NYC if you dont like London.

@Lino exactly,

yes, over the years i adjusted my tactics, as the game changes every few years

In 2017 my tactic is forget the light skin girls, inside the club just go for the attractive darker skin black women with nice bodies and decent attitude. When these light skin girls see the dark skin girl your talking to laughing at your jokes, smiling at you with complete co-operation in the club, the light skin girls get jealus/curious, like wtf is this handsome dude completely ignoring us light skin girls, i seen a few times in there mind the headfuck, as they are constantly told there better then dark skin women. They will then begin to chase if they are interested and of decent nature. It creates challenge in there mind. some with real big egos will not bite, but fuck them.

The lighter skin women have been praised too much there egos are huge. Particularly if they were raised in London. A lot of times when you speak to the light skin girl who has a nice personality ask her where she is from, a lot of times they were raised in some seaside town, brighton, reading, southampton and didnt grow up with the LONDON EGO.

Some darker skinned women are over looked, and if you look carefully you can find some under cover gems. You can find some very strong 6s and 7s that will not expect much from you, and you can smash regularly.


If she has more then 500 followers on instagram ignore her. DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME.


Many many black guys are mentally stuck on light skinned women. Once i went to latin america i realised that light skin women in the UK are COMPLETELY WACKKKK. So it allowed me clear focus, to focus on the best ROI. Black women are under appreciated in the London, im not saying there all hidden gems, but you can find hidden gems.

They say if everyone is going one way, go the other.

and tbh, dark skin women have better pussy. generally.

Anyone who has ever fucked a dime piece Hatian will know what im talking about

Quote: (07-31-2017 01:59 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

When I think of the UK - too many girls resemble this:

Even the prettier ones go into sugardaddy relationships, rinsing, stripping etc.

I used to travel around England and Scotland quite a lot 15+ years ago and I still remember fondly when you had shy waitresses like this in many small towns and villages:



And it was not even that rare since the obesity epidemic had not taken hold yet - also the mass immigration had not shifted the gender ratios too far.

Those girls exist too, but now with technology they would get 3000 matches on OKcupid and get inundated by scores of Tinder-men or they find out that they can make 5k/month having 2 dates per month with a sugardaddy.

Of course you can find beauties, but you have 3 dicks waiting behind them.

I actually have this thing for redheads and have fucked 3 or 4 just like her. Its really not that hard. You can still defeat tinder by having a social circle and approaching girls in "real life".

You seem like a hater. Girls in England and US make good salaries and its pretty rare for them to have "5k/month sugar daddies" or whatever your making up. I can say for NY that most of those guys work way too hard to keep too many girls around like that anyway. You'd be surprised how many hedge fund dudes only date one girl. Western girls are looking for attraction and guys with good game when they're young and don't actually give a fuck about money as long as it isn't an LTR.

"Girls in England and US make good salaries"

Firstly 8s and 9s dont want to work at all. This is important to understand. They want to be paid for being fine.

I cant think of 1 example of a uk 8 or 9 that earns more then £35k a year from a job. Unless it was stripping or prostitution. Most 8s and 9s i know have zero degrees and are lazy, they walk into PA assistant jobs i imagine based of looks alone.

Maybe someone who works in canary wharf or the city could further comment on that. most of the 8s and 9s who do work probably work in these regions.

Couple with the fact that london is comparable in expense to NYC i heard, EXPENSIVE to live, going out and renting property really add up. And one thing that these 8s and 9s like to do is shop and go out.

8s and 9s are looking for the best deal, they can fun fuck at will with hot guys. the 6s are looking for the affirmation of an attractive male IMO

Quote: (07-31-2017 03:06 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Zelcorpion, seriously everyone of your posts here start with "I've heard from guys with game that...".

You have no place or cred in this part of the forum. Stop shitting on fully functioning threads with your Lonely Planet keyboard jockeying. If you don't travel you should apologize for even dreaming about thinking your opinions matter here.

Oh damn!

Zel you seem like a nice guy, but all this talk about London daygamers and Paul Janka sounds a bit weird to me.

Rocha got a warning for calling out Krauser, so I won't go there.

You make some valid points and I do read your posts, but the record is getting old with the muslim stuff.
Trust me I am no fan of them either, but they ain't taking my food.

There are girls who make way more money, most of the educated ones, you can find some cute ones among them, I see often cute girls in Canary wharf.

The problem is that it's a very stuck up environment with security guards everywhere, whenever I approach a girl in the mall there is one of these assholes which comes walking next to us and stays there, you feel like a criminal when you day game in Canary Wharf.

@giami - curious as to what the average salary is of "regular" people in London?

Quote: (07-31-2017 06:56 PM)giama Wrote:  

"Girls in England and US make good salaries"

Firstly 8s and 9s dont want to work at all. This is important to understand. They want to be paid for being fine.

I cant think of 1 example of a uk 8 or 9 that earns more then £35k a year from a job. Unless it was stripping or prostitution. Most 8s and 9s i know have zero degrees and are lazy, they walk into PA assistant jobs i imagine based of looks alone.

Maybe someone who works in canary wharf or the city could further comment on that. most of the 8s and 9s who do work probably work in these regions.

Couple with the fact that london is comparable in expense to NYC i heard, EXPENSIVE to live, going out and renting property really add up. And one thing that these 8s and 9s like to do is shop and go out.

8s and 9s are looking for the best deal, they can fun fuck at will with hot guys. the 6s are looking for the affirmation of an attractive male IMO

Im speaking out of my ass about England but sorry bro, plenty of 8 and 9s in America have real jobs. I worked in real estate sales for many years. I could pull up about 20 girls right now on my phone. Go to a college town in the US and you'll find plenty of hot women who didn't even think to look for sugar daddy. Hard as hell to fuck though no doubt.

@rudebwoy

Average salary in London as whole is about £34k, with average is pushed up due to higher wages in central boroughs like city of london and canary wharf.

rest of london is probably around the £30k mark

The issue is rent is expensive and quality of property is not good for amount paid. So £34k doesnt stretch to all the things they want to do.

Some of the 8s and 9s are not even working. There lazy as fuck

Quote: (07-31-2017 04:57 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 03:06 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Zelcorpion, seriously everyone of your posts here start with "I've heard from guys with game that...".

You have no place or cred in this part of the forum. Stop shitting on fully functioning threads with your Lonely Planet keyboard jockeying. If you don't travel you should apologize for even dreaming about thinking your opinions matter here.

Interesting that you forbid me for talking about certain topics. You know exactly what women I have fucked and dated and in what cities I guess? You are the utmost arbitrary divine judge who shall now decide who here can voice what opinion on what subject, because the all-knowing Vicious has access to all-encompassing knowledge of each member here.

Calm down buddy. I voiced my reasons why I take the opinions of guys more seriously who lived there for a longer time period. But your belligerent tone is noted.

No Zel, among many guys in the travel forum your tone has been the one noted. Your disdain for anyone who goes against the groupthink mentality of whats pervaded most of the forum in the last two years is palpable.

Enough with the Muslim shit. Enough with the world is ending shit. Many of us over here are having the time of our lives traveling the world, making money and banging beautiful women.

Quote: (07-31-2017 04:57 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 03:06 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Zelcorpion, seriously everyone of your posts here start with "I've heard from guys with game that...".

You have no place or cred in this part of the forum. Stop shitting on fully functioning threads with your Lonely Planet keyboard jockeying. If you don't travel you should apologize for even dreaming about thinking your opinions matter here.

Interesting that you forbid me for talking about certain topics. You know exactly what women I have fucked and dated and in what cities I guess? You are the utmost arbitrary divine judge who shall now decide who here can voice what opinion on what subject, because the all-knowing Vicious has access to all-encompassing knowledge of each member here.

Calm down buddy. I voiced my reasons why I take the opinions of guys more seriously who lived there for a longer time period. But your belligerent tone is noted.

What are you babbling about? By your own admission you're not traveling or providing any personal experience of the topic at hand. It's just an excuse to repackage the same gospel you suffocate threads with. Every post from you is the same shit, and there's lots of them.

Quote: (07-31-2017 11:57 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 04:57 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 03:06 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Zelcorpion, seriously everyone of your posts here start with "I've heard from guys with game that...".

You have no place or cred in this part of the forum. Stop shitting on fully functioning threads with your Lonely Planet keyboard jockeying. If you don't travel you should apologize for even dreaming about thinking your opinions matter here.

Interesting that you forbid me for talking about certain topics. You know exactly what women I have fucked and dated and in what cities I guess? You are the utmost arbitrary divine judge who shall now decide who here can voice what opinion on what subject, because the all-knowing Vicious has access to all-encompassing knowledge of each member here.

Calm down buddy. I voiced my reasons why I take the opinions of guys more seriously who lived there for a longer time period. But your belligerent tone is noted.

What are you babbling about? By your own admission you're not traveling or providing any personal experience of the topic at hand. It's just an excuse to repackage the same gospel you suffocate threads with. Every post from you is the same shit, and there's lots of them.

I did not say that I don't travel - been in London in the recent 3 years, only approached a few.
NYC been some time before. I used to be in the US 2-3 times a year. Be it as it may - whatever makes you happy.

Quote: (07-31-2017 03:12 PM)giama Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 02:56 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 02:22 PM)giama Wrote:  

let me tell you aswell, the genuine london 8s and 9s (sometimes even 7s if they have a crazy body), the ones that go to west end clubs.
They have footballers on their phone. FACTS. maybe not the houshold names but premiership level footballers/squad players. I say this because i know a lot of 8s. This is what your competing with for the 7s and 8s.

These footballers dont usually wife them, but they smash them, go on dates with them, so you are in competition with them, for 8s and 9s if you can see the access they have, occasionally you get 8s who are humble and dont really do the west end thing, those are the ones to aim for. But what happens is some circles of girls are very come up orientated and they tell the there more innocent friends to start doing this west end thing and try to get a come up.

Even the rapper tinie tempah commented on it in a interview. Get money bitches he calls them, never have boyfriends, always on holiday, always clubbing. Anyone from london knows this type of girl. Good luck with those 8s in London LOL

London is a womans paradise for women 7 plus. A low quantity of 8-10s. compared to other cities

I was actually banging this Swedish chick from Los Angeles almost 6 years ago. I banged her for almost 3 months and then I moved to New York. Several years passed by, I happened to stumble upon her instagram. Looks like she moved to London last year and she has a lot of pictures with a player from Arsenal.

Excellent.

POINT PROVEN, in L.A she is likely 1 of tens of thousands of beautiful women. no biggie.

Here she can rub shoulders with a footballer probably earning £70,000 a week

Women can really win in London

Let's not act like L.A. is some paradise for women. Have you seen the L.A. thread? L.A has been proven to have horrendous male/female ratios.

You worry about "footballer" competition in London, in L.A. you got Lakers, Clippers, LA Kings, Dodgers, USC atheletes, Hollywood A listers, Hollywood B listers, Hollywood C listers, reality show dudes, producers, casting directors, Aspiring actor pretty boys/models, top american rappers, random rich dudes that throw mansion parties in the hills,etc. Now add the worst logistics of any global city minus perhaps Jakarta and 1:45am last call.

As much as London may suck for the non elite guys, you can always fuck off on the weekend with Ryanair to one of over 50 different cities in almost as many countries, all less than a 3 hour flight for under $100usd.

In L.A. you would be lucky to find a roundtrip flight to Vegas for $100. There simply are no decent short flight options from L.A. outside of Vegas and Mexico city. You are basically trapped by comparison to London.

Also London attracts Anglophile female immigrants from all over Europe and the world. L.A. attracts Mexicans and Salvadorians who "no speeke english" and largely prefer to live in communities where it isnt a requirement.

Giama I'm white but mixed black and white girls are my main thing. I also go for a lot of black and Indian girls. Sometimes white girls if they take my fancy. I game in all environments because I have quite a few social circles with different tastes; from dancehall and other 'urban' events, to typical trendy cocktail bars, gastro-pubs, and lounges, and even indie clubs. Most girls I end up with are mixed Caribbean and white, or if black then Caribbean - only banged a few African girls and they weren't Nigerian, so I don't have much experience with them. Went to an Afrobeats event a few times because of friends and girls weren't very receptive there.

When we talk about relationships a lot of these girls tell me they're open to white guys but never get approached by them so that maybe works in my favour because I've been moving to girls in those circles since I was a kid so to me it's normal.

Now I'm not banging 8 plus on a weekly basis or anything but at least a few times a year and other than that I get pretty good quality regularly (I'm dirty though so I'll bang lower quality as well). I also find London easier and get better quality than in my own city (Birmingham).

Quote: (08-01-2017 03:40 AM)Kieran Wrote:  

Giama I'm white but mixed black and white girls are my main thing. I also go for a lot of black and Indian girls. Sometimes white girls if they take my fancy. I game in all environments because I have quite a few social circles with different tastes; from dancehall and other 'urban' events, to typical trendy cocktail bars, gastro-pubs, and lounges, and even indie clubs. Most girls I end up with are mixed Caribbean and white, or if black then Caribbean - only banged a few African girls and they weren't Nigerian, so I don't have much experience with them. Went to an Afrobeats event a few times because of friends and girls weren't very receptive there.

When we talk about relationships a lot of these girls tell me they're open to white guys but never get approached by them so that maybe works in my favour because I've been moving to girls in those circles since I was a kid so to me it's normal.

Now I'm not banging 8 plus on a weekly basis or anything but at least a few times a year and other than that I get pretty good quality regularly (I'm dirty though so I'll bang lower quality as well). I also find London easier and get better quality than in my own city (Birmingham).

Which parts of London are most receptive?

Quote: (07-31-2017 08:45 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 04:57 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 03:06 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

Zelcorpion, seriously everyone of your posts here start with "I've heard from guys with game that...".

You have no place or cred in this part of the forum. Stop shitting on fully functioning threads with your Lonely Planet keyboard jockeying. If you don't travel you should apologize for even dreaming about thinking your opinions matter here.

Interesting that you forbid me for talking about certain topics. You know exactly what women I have fucked and dated and in what cities I guess? You are the utmost arbitrary divine judge who shall now decide who here can voice what opinion on what subject, because the all-knowing Vicious has access to all-encompassing knowledge of each member here.

Calm down buddy. I voiced my reasons why I take the opinions of guys more seriously who lived there for a longer time period. But your belligerent tone is noted.

No Zel, among many guys in the travel forum your tone has been the one noted. Your disdain for anyone who goes against the groupthink mentality of whats pervaded most of the forum in the last two years is palpable.

Enough with the Muslim shit. Enough with the world is ending shit. Many of us over here are having the time of our lives traveling the world, making money and banging beautiful women.

And where did I say that this is impossible? Even during the times of WWII you could have done that easily, made money, met beautiful women without a care in the world.

But alas - if I have sounded too much doom and gloom, then I will acknowledge that and you may very well have a point there. It was not my intention to sound like that and life on this planet certainly is not that glum - especially not in terms of what you can do individually.

As for the topic at hand here - there is plenty of confirmation regarding everything I said. There are better and worse cities and countries in terms of Game and dating. Though there are often opportunities/options as well as other things aside from that. I think that you are now partly piling in on me for some vendetta.

And as I noted - you may have a point there to a degree regarding me and too much focus on the negatives.

Our lives are short enough as they are - ultimately creative industrious Red Pill men with Game can carve their way in both cities well enough:

Quote: (07-31-2017 05:20 PM)Distant Light Wrote:  

NYC is an ULTRA CITY...Think of whatever life you wanna live and it can be had on some scale in NY. In terms of girls, I've never left NY yet had more variety than most would have in a lifetime

HOWEVER...

London = Location (If you don't have time to fly around than this is irrelevant & london must take an L)

I've never been to london BUT as my close friends have said (1 in this thread) london women wise is "meh"...However, check the high end scene. If that isn't your thing then again whether you go to NY or London makes no difference as NY population on a whole is meh. Great for diversity though.

Only place you can be with an attractive latina 1 day & then a tall asian model the next.

Lifestyle wise...Clubs in london close earlier...The diversity isn't as PROGRESSIVE. Imagine being at some speakeasy type spot in brighton beach with newly arrived russians. Contrast UK lots of middle eastern, indians, etc...Those culturals aren't really built on such bachelor/Independent lifestyles.

Heck, hip hop strip club scene has some freaks of nature type women...UK at best, those thick brits who peak rather quickly. Although...Must say british chicks who HAPPEN TO BE WITTY are always awesome female friends to have.

Me personally...I seen the top teir in terms of women in NY. It SUCKS compared to years prior to my era & was good enough 2011-2013 BUT...

To the average man it would seem like paradise. Issue is...YOU BETTER BE COMPETENT at navigating. It's kind of like london membership clubs. (Irony years ago met a tall hot UK girl who frequented such venues in UK and was looking for the NY equivalent)

So if location to travel...And high end clubs taken out of equation...

NYC vs London comes down to what you want outside of women. Can't speak for london BUT...
- NY food scene is top tier from cheap to fine dining while also being very diverse (Even west coast peeps says NY has stepped up on its mexican food)

- NY is a society of subcultures...From burners to psytrance to artsy realms to fitness realms. You can find a realm that is of quality within your areas of interest.

- Manhattan isn't the ONLY AREA...Yes it's awesome BUT you could stay within queens or brooklyn and still lead an awesome life.

- Lots of FREE social events & social events EVERYDAY...I've seen lazertag parties, silent parties, block parties, free yoga, movies in the park. In the high end scene alone you can technically party 7 DAYS A WEEK from 5am till the am EVERYDAY.

- Most people don't know what's going on in the city...There is just too much going on. A tourist shows up and all they are lucky to know COLD is time square, trendy clubs & restaurants. You as a local can take a tourist through a diverse experience within a weekend.

Keep in mind, I've very little travel experience BUT based on peoples compilants of "boring" that isn't something that requires any effort in NY. It could be a BLIZZARD and somethings are still going on.

The MYTH of "city that never sleeps" is false in the sense that compared to the world YEA it seems bumping BUT it's NOT COMMON. Most people don't do much. Flipside, that same person living that "city that never sleeps" with some effort could replicate that in any city they're in. It's a way of life more than an actual cultural thing within the city.

For most part NY has been sterilized of its authenicity, this has PROS & CONS but simply a natural progression due to other travellers confirming NY is awesome YET most don't have the $$$ to sufficiently live in the heart of the city so you're paying for POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES which is what most people see.

P.S...A city stands based on YOU & the possibilities it gives you. The NY Metro area isn't going to be on par with a cheap flight anywhere in europe...What you'll find in US is a "small town" mentality where it just feels like people trying to survive. Atleast a flight from london to any city could lead to connections to "mover shakers" within respective country cities...

P.S.S...I will forever love NY as it built me BUT if you've been here long you'll want to snap out of this delusion the city puts you in. You could feel the westernized initiative & hunger to "make it" and/or "survive". This can make you forget life is about EXPERIENCE and INTERACTION. Yet, there isn't much places to detox outside montreal which isn't even in the US. Unless gonna go out in nature or some shit...Most people who live in NY never even get to enjoy it.

NY STINKS DUDE.

I am from NYC!

After 19 years of NYC I can seriously tell you that NYC is Ghetto, women are psychos, a lot of hood rats out there and recently a lot of entitled ridiculous hipsters from the mid west making places like Brooklyn their playground!

I don't know where in NYC you can find tall Asian supermodels available to the average schmuck like you claim!

Most Asians live in Flushing and they're fresh off boat, non-English speaking, possibly illegally in the country, women wise for the most middle aged Asian women (the types that work at nail salons)

As far as Latinas. You have pockets of Colombians, Brazilians, Argentines mostly around Long Island or New Jersey but they are small number wise and mostly found if you head into their enclaves.

Latina wise the city is dominated by ghetto puerto rican and dominican hood rats with African features. IT'S NOT BRAZIL OR COLOMBIA when it comes to Latinas!

As far as White women, I rather go to London for this one where at least you have plenty of East European migrants!

White women in NYC are the poster child of everything that is gross about American women. Feminazis, entitled, over educated, in debt, sex in the city wannabe losers!

NYC is one of the most overrated places on this planet!

London sucks, but to claim NYC is great. PLEASE!

Not easy to get the 8+s. But I haven't been anywhere where it IS easy to get the top 10% of girls. The same old story in all 1st-tier cities - there are ballers/celebs/ultra-rich/connected guys, and the same old dynamics play out.

It's always hard to get 8+s, but you always CAN. Takes solid game, sustained effort, and ideally a lifestyle edge or two. But that is just how the world works.

I'd say, realistically, London quality is below NYC, and the ratio is a bit worse. But it's not a HUGE difference.

Quote: (08-01-2017 02:29 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 03:12 PM)giama Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 02:56 PM)Rossi Wrote:  

Quote: (07-31-2017 02:22 PM)giama Wrote:  

let me tell you aswell, the genuine london 8s and 9s (sometimes even 7s if they have a crazy body), the ones that go to west end clubs.
They have footballers on their phone. FACTS. maybe not the houshold names but premiership level footballers/squad players. I say this because i know a lot of 8s. This is what your competing with for the 7s and 8s.

These footballers dont usually wife them, but they smash them, go on dates with them, so you are in competition with them, for 8s and 9s if you can see the access they have, occasionally you get 8s who are humble and dont really do the west end thing, those are the ones to aim for. But what happens is some circles of girls are very come up orientated and they tell the there more innocent friends to start doing this west end thing and try to get a come up.

Even the rapper tinie tempah commented on it in a interview. Get money bitches he calls them, never have boyfriends, always on holiday, always clubbing. Anyone from london knows this type of girl. Good luck with those 8s in London LOL

London is a womans paradise for women 7 plus. A low quantity of 8-10s. compared to other cities

I was actually banging this Swedish chick from Los Angeles almost 6 years ago. I banged her for almost 3 months and then I moved to New York. Several years passed by, I happened to stumble upon her instagram. Looks like she moved to London last year and she has a lot of pictures with a player from Arsenal.

Excellent.

POINT PROVEN, in L.A she is likely 1 of tens of thousands of beautiful women. no biggie.

Here she can rub shoulders with a footballer probably earning £70,000 a week

Women can really win in London

Let's not act like L.A. is some paradise for women. Have you seen the L.A. thread? L.A has been proven to have horrendous male/female ratios.

You worry about "footballer" competition in London, in L.A. you got Lakers, Clippers, LA Kings, Dodgers, USC atheletes, Hollywood A listers, Hollywood B listers, Hollywood C listers, reality show dudes, producers, casting directors, Aspiring actor pretty boys/models, top american rappers, random rich dudes that throw mansion parties in the hills,etc. Now add the worst logistics of any global city minus perhaps Jakarta and 1:45am last call.

As much as London may suck for the non elite guys, you can always fuck off on the weekend with Ryanair to one of over 50 different cities in almost as many countries, all less than a 3 hour flight for under $100usd.

In L.A. you would be lucky to find a roundtrip flight to Vegas for $100. There simply are no decent short flight options from L.A. outside of Vegas and Mexico city. You are basically trapped by comparison to London.

Also London attracts Anglophile female immigrants from all over Europe and the world. L.A. attracts Mexicans and Salvadorians who "no speeke english" and largely prefer to live in communities where it isnt a requirement.

This has been my argument from day one, the options are unlimited and Ryanair is expanding the service every year.

yeh ima try Holland.

I have had good experiences with french women who were originally from martinique or guadeloupe or seychelles. very good attitudes, warm. Black and mixed curly hair chics. Im going to be exploring cities like Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Berlin. To find these types of chics again.


Girls are more in shape too on the continent. I definitely need to start taking advantage of the location of London.

Londoners grow up with the mentality that nothing good happens in Europe outside of London, and London is the be all and end all of europe. Best women, best scene. slowly ofcourse due to the information age and the internet we realise thats not the case.

UK is literally the worse in Europe for women, lol LITERALLY so time to get on these cheap weekend getaways.

I have heard it said that new yorkers have the same mentality also.

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yeh ima try Holland.

I have had good experiences with french women who were originally from martinique or guadeloupe or seychelles. very good attitudes, warm. Black and mixed curly hair chics. Im going to be exploring cities like Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Berlin. To find these types of chics again.


Girls are more in shape too on the continent. I definitely need to start taking advantage of the location of London.

Londoners grow up with the mentality that nothing good happens in Europe outside of London, and London is the be all and end all of europe. Best women, best scene. slowly ofcourse due to the information age and the internet we realise thats not the case.

UK is literally the worse in Europe for women, lol LITERALLY so time to get on these cheap weekend getaways.

I have heard it said that new yorkers have the same mentality also.

French carribean women are my favorite, warm, sweet and very approachable. I miss a lot Paris because of them. In Amsterdam you'll find a lot of dutch girls who are ethnically from Suriname, they are black or mixed and sometimes have some indian features, I have seen some beauties when living there and dated one of them. If you are tall, athletic and approach them you have all your chances as dutch men usually don't approach.

In Rotterdam you'll find many girls with a background from Cabo Verde, black and mixed as well, there are festivals in the summer and I think last week was the capverdean carnival, one girl I know there sent me pics.

Berlin on the other hand (one of my favorite cities) lacks a bit of these mixed creatures, the only one I got while living in Germany was actually dutch (surinamese)...

What annoys me in London is really the lack of feminity of women, I had the luck to fuck 3or 4 brazilian girls while here but since 2-3 months I havent came across any of them, not sure why...

I can't comment on NYC as I never lived there but the city in general attracts me more than London, hell just to be able to see nba games at the Madison I would like to spend some time there.

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NY STINKS DUDE.

I am from NYC!

After 19 years of NYC I can seriously tell you that NYC is Ghetto, women are psychos, a lot of hood rats out there and recently a lot of entitled ridiculous hipsters from the mid west making places like Brooklyn their playground!

I don't know where in NYC you can find tall Asian supermodels available to the average schmuck like you claim!

Most Asians live in Flushing and they're fresh off boat, non-English speaking, possibly illegally in the country, women wise for the most middle aged Asian women (the types that work at nail salons)

As far as Latinas. You have pockets of Colombians, Brazilians, Argentines mostly around Long Island or New Jersey but they are small number wise and mostly found if you head into their enclaves.

Latina wise the city is dominated by ghetto puerto rican and dominican hood rats with African features. IT'S NOT BRAZIL OR COLOMBIA when it comes to Latinas!

As far as White women, I rather go to London for this one where at least you have plenty of East European migrants!

White women in NYC are the poster child of everything that is gross about American women. Feminazis, entitled, over educated, in debt, sex in the city wannabe losers!

NYC is one of the most overrated places on this planet!

London sucks, but to claim NYC is great. PLEASE

Lived in NY for...28 Years hahaha...

You're response sounds like the typical "All girls in high end scene are scum posers & gold diggers" #YeaOk

Same dudes who mark a city as "tough to get laid" yet somehow babies are still being born in said city...

Re-read my post I clearly highlight "high end" scene which IS VASTLY DIFFERENT from the norm making NY still favorable in terms of women. (Although I think high end scene quality has tanked BUT for average person unaware it would be fine)

Also you clearly don't know of the "sub-cultures" within NY...
- Tall Asians (High End Scene)
- Curvy Latina (HipHop Strip Clubs...Think Lust NY) queens has alot of clubs where SOUTH AMERICAN latinas go to (High end scene my boy has invited some top notch mexicans)
- Asians (Circle Nightclub...better have connect as generally asians only are let in) beyond flushing...K-Town

Usually I ignore people who cry about feminazis, hoodrats, hipstere, etc...As it's all PROJECTIONS.
When comes to social encounters all that political & geographical BS goes out the door...People just wanna have FUN.

NY is a huge city & diverse, from loft stripper "house parties" to deep house warehouse parties. There are only so few cities you can go from hanging at a table "bottle service" style...To tripping at a psytrance party less than 24hrs later.

Also all I hear is girls girls girls...Beyond GIRLS NY (like london) is a world class city. That isn't hype...

Thing people fail to realize is REGARDLESS OF GIRLS...Pick a city you like and be connected to 50 STUNNING CHICKS within that city and I'm sure any city would be deemed great.

Dudes on here are TOO LAZY to make their life experiences better within their city.

Yes I agree for most NY would seem shitty but that's just due to being LAZY. You like attractive artsy chicks, go to "The Blond"...Nightlife is for scums? Go fill your off-days in daytime with social events...
- There is a monthly dance party in the day where no alcohol is served (started as a pre-work party 6am to 8am)
- Go to art galleries (Walked right into one when I was 19 in acting school...Met 2 late 20s chicks who haven't seen each other in ages because 1 lived in upper eastside and other downtown)
- After work events at the more high end venues

Most people in the "hood" don't venture out, the fact that some parts are getting more gentrified is why you'll see potential mixture...I'd go as far as saying NY is one of the safer world class cities.

NOTE: I grew up in east new york (right next to brownsville) I've concluded fearmongering is generally that FEAR...There are many parts of even Syria where normal life still occurs and has seen little if any conflict. Doesn't mean 100% is dangerous.

Issue with speaking about cities & this site is that TOO MUCH EMPHASIS is on women, how they look, how easy it is to fuck...All shit that is irrelevant if you're THAT GUY and/or have competency to build shit up.

Any city can be a solid...What a city comes down to is your area of interests. It's insane when I read stuff about guys going to bumblefuck rural town hearing it was a pussy paradise BORED OUT THERE MIND so they chase chicks all day and/or complain about political BS.

P.S...I've been around many girls who would be considered feminazis. You know what? When you're a level headed dude who's just out living & enjoying life letting all "live and let live"...No one seems to give a fuck or PROJECT BS. You teach peoole how you want them to interact in your presence. Those same so called hoodrats are open to having a moment of laughter or willing to help when you're not living in a world of judging and assuming all sorts of shit.

P.S.S...I have yet to meet any well travelled person who said NY was overrated & that's because the options within the city is VAST...I myself had culture shock only knowing NY, thinking when I landed in prague "holy shit, this is a city? The vibe is soo much more chill/calm". I swear certain places were open when the workers "feel like it" and when I searched for psytrance, I found 1 potential spot for that weekend. When I read datasheets to figure out "what spots to check out" lets just say 90% were JUNK bottomfeeding PUA "find girls here"...Yet meeting locals I learnt of areas outside of Old Town & touristy James Dean...I have a of potential underground parties going on within the week & learn in one neighborhood has the biggest stretch of bars. Once again 90% of people going to prague wouldn't know, all they see is a clocktower & the touristy yet local food spots.

End of the day, most dudes are lazy just looking for a nut. Hard to take their recommendations. I've explored more than enough of NY to say I've only scratched the surface of niches I ENJOY. Yet, there is sooo much more going on.