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02-07-2012, 03:48 PM
Great post Athlone, exactly my experience with American women as well. As a foreigner I had hard time at first, but it really that simple:
1. Get drunk to your right level
2. Have fun
3. Take her home
However, if I bang a girl that soon, I lose interest in LTR since I already got what I wanted and she gets put into the FWB bucket. I guess that's why all the LTR have been with non-American girls
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02-07-2012, 06:26 PM
Wow that is really quite some literature. Showing this to some chicks who dont do BJs really gotta put them to think, at least.
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02-07-2012, 09:15 PM
To the original poster Samseau,
You asked a very valid question but then when it came to supporting your conclusion you never actually tried the " One where you take it slow, in order to "build" a relationship." IMHO. You got the conversation to be sexual, got her thinking about sex and then withdrew, as in not making a move. Girls flake when you do that.
This is very different from holding hands/making out on the first date, going to 2nd base by date 3 and so on which is where "taking it slow" applies.
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02-09-2012, 01:29 AM
Quote: (02-09-2012 12:43 AM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote:Athlone Wrote:
Bottomline: With American women, it is an absolute, balls-to-the-wall race to the bottom, and the first man (or men-many of these girls are far from monogamous) to get there wins. Find the fastest route downhill and you're golden. He who dares, wins.
See, I don't know if this is just for American women. I think all women are more or less the same in regards to this.
I'm feel quite confident of it. American women are not the only women on Earth that this applies to, but international differences in the response to rapid sexual escalation (either verbally or physically) and the necessity of its use very early on certainly exist.
Some women require more of a base demeanor from men than others, and will expect it earlier and be more likely to reward it with an SNL. On the other hand, there are cultures on this Earth where one can afford to delay the caveman act for a little and actually be a "gentleman" without getting written off almost instantly-in fact, it may even help you.
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02-09-2012, 02:18 AM
I think there's some possible selection factor here too. Especially where slut-cost* is higher (poorer countries); women may be trying to specifically avoid Guys Like You (pump and dump guys).
they may avoid "night life" ( I see night life as practically a euphemism for alcohol abuse at this point)
and cuing at all in public places. You may hardly see them and falsely conclude they don't exist.
This would make sense for evolutionary reasons, because guys who pair bond will invest more in the child.
I think the value of the "attack immediately" strategy has two obvious environments favoring it:
1) True caveman society where impregnation's only goal
2) 1st world where women and kids are paid for whether guy is there or not. Or to be more colorful, the "Rat Race Hypergamy Environment" (RRHE)
*slut-cost-- negative consequences for promiscuity in a given society and time. Currently low in 1st world countries (esp. lower class) because child support laws will attach the fathers assets anyway). High in 2nd/3rd world-- all other things being equal-- because the child will have fewer resources and the mother will become very undesirable to to other men.
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02-09-2012, 09:23 AM
interesting points here...and now that i go back, the women ive gotten in bed early on in knowing them have ended up being LTRs
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02-09-2012, 10:11 AM
Ive learned that if you want a girl to be down with you, you have to treat them all the same in the beginning....u need to be focused solely on trying to fuck them. Taking your time to try to fuck because you think she is too special to push the issue, will backfire a lot of times.
If a woman is not fucking you, she doesnt really like you. Thats what I live by. You are not going to really be on her mind like that unless you are fucking her. Point blank.
The key to a womans heart is through her pussy.
So whether you want a fuck buddy or a girlfriend, fucking them and getting them sprung off of the dick is the most sure way to get it done.
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02-14-2012, 04:38 PM
I've realized I have no interest in getting a LTR and I seem to can't to get any love on the second day therefore I have to go for the one-nighter...
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02-15-2012, 12:06 AM
I just wanted to echo Antholone's fantastic post. I find this to be the reality in clubs, Toronto specifically, cave man sexual aggression is the key to North American chicks (night game). The fact that a lot of guys just stand around and hold there drinks hoping a girl comes up to them, just makes this strategy so much more powerful. It boggles my mind how many dudes just line the walls of clubs, waiting for who knows what.
Regarding the blitz to bang, I agree with this 100 percent. This is absolutely key. YOu must remember, before you lace a chick, she knows she has something you want, she has something of value. Once you bang her, you've taken something from her. You got the prize. Tides of power shift. The dynamics shift. I also firmly believe there is a biological interaction occurring as another poster pointed out, something happens in the female brain which increases their attraction.
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02-29-2012, 03:35 AM
Just another affirmation that's being said here:
3 recent girls have said the same thing, making it actually kind of creepy: "I like to have sex with a guy early on because if he's a bad lay it's just a waste of time."
It sounds unbelievably masculine.
Of course, these girls don't realize that hearing them say that reduces their value to me, to the point I'd never want to commit to them.
Regardless, going for the bang asap is crucial. I can think of two instances a while ago where I failed big time. Both involved either me or the girl being dropped off from a car after a major make out session. We're talking where the girl is moaning sexually from the makeout...my hand in her crotch, squeezing her tits, etc, and she's INTO it. One of them gave me the "I have to wake up early" and the other gave me, "My place is a mess" and both times I idiotically replied, "Ok, some other time." WRONG. Neither one responded to me after that. I didn't push.
Whether it's a ONS or an LTR it's all the same. Go for the bang asap. Push through whatever bullshit she throws at you. It's a test.
"...so I gave her an STD, and she STILL wanted to bang me."
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02-29-2012, 07:40 AM
I honestly thought 'bang her asap' comments from those forums fucked up my mind.
There were times I banged a girl and she got buyer's remorse.
If I waited little bit, I could keep her as regular bang. I felt like I killed the 'goose'
Doesn't it also make you look like you haven't got laid for a while if you go for the bang?
No girls will just let you do whatever you want. you will face resistances when you try to pull down her bra, take her pants off, finger her etc.
You are not in vegas for one night. If your goal is keep banging her in the future, would you keep trying?
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02-25-2013, 09:28 AM
@Samseau drawing any conclusion from such an extremely small sample is, actually just one, is virtually meaningless. The first question would be is the girl LTR material to begin with? All guys I know categories girls into two groups: LTR material and bangs. For ALL of my LTR/girlfriends I did not bang quickly and I did not lose them. But then again, any girl that goes out on the date with me is mine to lose, so maybe I am not a good sample...
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02-25-2013, 10:35 AM
One man's pump n'dump is another man's LTR material
All women are fundamentally the same
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10-26-2014, 01:55 PM
Interested in revisiting this thread. Would the consensus still agree on this?
If only you knew how bad things really are.
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10-26-2014, 04:18 PM
Before anything, there is a BANG. What holds true for our universe, also holds true for relationships. Her chasing you in a social circle scenario is the only other possibility, as mentioned by the OP.
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