^ That girl would be a very good 36 year old low 7. I am guessing she is probably ten years younger that that though. Still nice, for now.

Girl looks alright, I see the thighs getting a bit big.

If someone has said she was from Ukraine, then dudes would be rating her higher.

I don't know what score she is, I know that many guys on here would bang.

You guys crack me up. Would bang that chick, no question.

Quote: (05-01-2017 06:25 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2017 04:49 AM)atlant Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2017 03:13 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  

that's why i said 'randome girls' but the average girl in Germany is better looking than the average girl in spain or France.
when you say 'here' you mean in the USA or in Germany?
an 8 or 9 in Germany would be like this
https://www.instagram.com/p/8GSSJbpxbb/?...y=anna.hkl

That's not an 8 and you can already see how she's starting to look like a granny. That's German girls for you.

Tons hotter women in Spain, easily. Not even a debate.

I guess most posters in RVF hail from the US, and most americans put blondes on a pedestal, hence German girls > Spanish girls.. The average german girl fit more on the mainstream idea of what is perceived of hot in the west (US, UK, etc) than the spanish girl usually does.

I am French, and i am living in Germany for 5 years, i already visited Spain twice and i know France perfectly. No, it is not about the mainstream idea, after many years being in all 3 Countries, i am convinced that German women are my type and look better than spanish women in general.
if you take a look at the hottest fifa or uefa cup supporter , you'll notice the difference between the women

German supporters:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/ori...4f0b3a.jpg
http://cdn.scahw.com.au/cdn-1cdbb159cca6...planet.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/ori...7f5697.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n4zOj...Bgirls.jpg


Spanish supporters:
https://drop.ndtv.com/albums/SPORTS/span...ans(6).jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/ori...f77bec.jpg
https://thumb1.shutterstock.com/display_...804260.jpg
http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/7d5a1dae12d541...cm9fnd.jpg

But as i said beauty is subjectif, everyone has his own preferances

And the girl i showed before is an 8 or 9 for me, maybe not for you. German wome are not fat, they're just meaty and like someone said before when a german and spanish woman put on weight, usually the german take the weight better
here another picture of the girl:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPXmTjGhPQl/

One observation:
The first pic of the spanish supporter type looks like a mestiza from South America.

Well they're taller so the fat will tend to be more distributed.
Regardless of their ethnicity though, they *shouldn't put weight*!!!!!

You'd be surprised how much we tend to be attracted to our own phenotype, I suppose that besides the psychological there must be a grounded biological base.
I find german women undeniably attractive but am quite put off by the farmer's ankles and wrists most of them tend to have, specially when my own are much more delicate looking by comparison.
Likewise my bird (who is german! but not a germanic phenotype)finds the long fingers and generally streteched stringiness of the men off putting. Coincidentally, she is my phenotype.

On the rest of the pics you posted, I find the blonde women too square and round in all the wrong parts (would still bang!) but then again I am quite removed from their ethnic configuration

Since I did recently some short trips to Poland (living in Hamburg) there are still worlds between German and Polish women. For me the average polish women almost wins in every category if you ignore the butterfaces and their missing fashion sense in smaller cities

Quote: (05-02-2017 08:11 AM)Naughty_Boy Wrote:  

Since I did recently some short trips to Poland (living in Hamburg) there are still worlds between German and Polish women. For me the average polish women almost wins in every category if you ignore the butterfaces and their missing fashion sense in smaller cities

I agree with that, i've been three times in Poland . Well, besides the looks, the polish girls are really without doubt friendlier than german girls. That's really a pity! i wish i was living in an economy like Germany but with girls like polish ones. However we can not have it all.
There are still good looking german women maybe some exeptions also when talking about the bahaviour. But you're going to waste a lot of time looking for those ones.
German women are one of the most independent women and usually they give you that impression that they don't need you and better not go talk to them, it's funny because i hear everywhere on the internet where it is said that german men don't flirt, they're shy and not direct.
That's totally wrong! i've been in Prag and the german there were more aggressiv than when in their country, it seems like they don't bother a lot with their women at home.
i also read some german guys opinion and it is completely true. German women mostly have high expectations on men, even when not that good looking and if they have a degree at university, they will be even more self entiteled. sometimes i hear a german woman with a master degree speaking in a way, i ask myself how can such a woman be educated....

and please guys for god sake! stop spreading that picture of Poland as being a sex paradise, if you want to find a girlfriend go for it. It doesn't matter if you want to have affairs in nightclubs but keep it for you. I dislike hearing some guys telling how they felt like gods in Poland because of their foreign status and how girls are easy, and were supplying them to suck their dicks. I know many decent girls in Poland who are down to earth and very pleasant to be with, and i guess it is easy for them to see such comments on this forum

Quote: (05-02-2017 11:30 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  

and please guys for god sake! stop spreading that picture of Poland as being a sex paradise, if you want to find a girlfriend go for it. It doesn't matter if you want to have affairs in nightclubs but keep it for you. I dislike hearing some guys telling how they felt like gods in Poland because of their foreign status and how girls are easy, and were supplying them to suck their dicks. I know many decent girls in Poland who are down to earth and very pleasant to be with, and i guess it is easy for them to see such comments on this forum

Jesus, do we have to put a quota on German guys that can post on the forum? Your white knight vomit is making me nauseous.

Sacré bleu, he's french.

Quote: (05-02-2017 11:46 AM)Travesty Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2017 11:30 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  

and please guys for god sake! stop spreading that picture of Poland as being a sex paradise, if you want to find a girlfriend go for it. It doesn't matter if you want to have affairs in nightclubs but keep it for you. I dislike hearing some guys telling how they felt like gods in Poland because of their foreign status and how girls are easy, and were supplying them to suck their dicks. I know many decent girls in Poland who are down to earth and very pleasant to be with, and i guess it is easy for them to see such comments on this forum

Jesus, do we have to put a quota on German guys that can post on the forum? Your white knight vomit is making me nauseous.

I am not a white knight, and it doesn't matter whether it makes you nauseous or not because it is already late. i see many posts in the last years where guys say how women in Poland are westernized and liberalist. and they're playing games for some reason

I got laid well in Germany being a homeless guy with bad teeth and a dog...

Quote: (05-01-2017 04:56 AM)reciproke Wrote:  

If you are in Germany and are interested in attractive, feminine and sophisticated girls, here's what you need to do: Go to the nearest Airport and take a flight to Eastern Europe.

Exactly this. Some German girls can be really really hot, but it's only maybe 10 to 15% of girls that are real lookers, and even those usually dress bland and/or like a guy would, and are usually not approachable too much (anti-slut thinking and vibe, sticking to social circle, most pretty girls stuck in long-term relationships).

In Eastern Europe, much more eye candy, much more approachable girls, much more sexy dresses, less attitude and bitching. Paradise starts three train hours and a 28-Euro train ticket away from Munich, right at the Czech border. Even better when flying to Ukraine.

Also keep in mind: in many large cities of Germany and for example especially in Munich, around 40% of girls in the 18-35 age range are foreign-born or born to foreign parents in Germany, with ancestries for example from Ukraine, Russia, Turkey, Croatia, Italy, China, India, even more black girls slowly noticeable on the streets.... LOTS of foreign girls coming here to study (some university classes especially in very special tech fields are now 100% foreigners even though theoretically open to Germans as well), to work jobs that German girls won't work (elderly care or cleaning ladies, many girls from Poland for example), to eventually find a "rich" German husband, lots of expats working here as well. If you add the tourists from other countries, which are not living here but just visiting for a couple of days, I'd say on a usual summer day in the pedestrian zone of Munich, you'll see a max. of 30% ethnic German girls. Percentages of Ethnic German girls are much higher in many Eastern German cities that get a little less tourists, such as Leipzig, Chemnitz or Erfurt.

The high foreign-girl percentage you'll find in most large and especially Western German cities doesn't have to be bad as the Ukrainian, Polish, Asian girls here are in general much more approachable, better dressed and more interesting to talk to, but chances are high that in the end you'll much more likely lay a EE or Asian girl here in Germany than a German girl.

For fucking German girls, I'd rather recommend the usual Mediterranean-Sea summer beach vacation destinations, when they drink a lot and are in fuck mode, far away from family or colleagues who could spot them with a guy on the street (or even walking into a hotel), and far away from their uptight social habits that seem to fall immediately with the warm weather and holiday feel of Spanish or Greek islands.

All that being wrote, 100% German guy and lifetime Munich local writing here.

Quote: (05-02-2017 02:36 PM)El_Gostro Wrote:  

I got laid well in Germany being a homeless guy with bad teeth and a dog...

you forgot the laptop and the internet connection

Quote: (05-02-2017 05:23 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2017 06:25 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2017 04:49 AM)atlant Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2017 03:13 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  

that's why i said 'randome girls' but the average girl in Germany is better looking than the average girl in spain or France.
when you say 'here' you mean in the USA or in Germany?
an 8 or 9 in Germany would be like this
https://www.instagram.com/p/8GSSJbpxbb/?...y=anna.hkl

That's not an 8 and you can already see how she's starting to look like a granny. That's German girls for you.

Tons hotter women in Spain, easily. Not even a debate.

I guess most posters in RVF hail from the US, and most americans put blondes on a pedestal, hence German girls > Spanish girls.. The average german girl fit more on the mainstream idea of what is perceived of hot in the west (US, UK, etc) than the spanish girl usually does.

I am French, and i am living in Germany for 5 years, i already visited Spain twice and i know France perfectly. No, it is not about the mainstream idea, after many years being in all 3 Countries, i am convinced that German women are my type and look better than spanish women in general.
if you take a look at the hottest fifa or uefa cup supporter , you'll notice the difference between the women

German supporters:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/ori...4f0b3a.jpg
http://cdn.scahw.com.au/cdn-1cdbb159cca6...planet.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/ori...7f5697.jpg
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n4zOj...Bgirls.jpg


Spanish supporters:
https://drop.ndtv.com/albums/SPORTS/span...ans(6).jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/ori...f77bec.jpg
https://thumb1.shutterstock.com/display_...804260.jpg
http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/7d5a1dae12d541...cm9fnd.jpg

But as i said beauty is subjectif, everyone has his own preferances

And the girl i showed before is an 8 or 9 for me, maybe not for you. German wome are not fat, they're just meaty and like someone said before when a german and spanish woman put on weight, usually the german take the weight better
here another picture of the girl:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPXmTjGhPQl/

The problem with german girls is that they tend to have at least 30 pounds more than other european ethnicities, they are not necesarily obese but at least compared to the spanish girls I have seen the average german girl looks very manly, there is always some hotties though.

Quote: (04-30-2017 07:38 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  

Quote: (04-30-2017 12:02 AM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

Quote: (01-08-2012 03:54 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

Asian guys usually have no chance with German girls. I'm sorry to say. I've heard more racist shit coming from German girls that I thought were cool than I'd like to admit. It's ugly and when I hear it I tell them to stop. I'm talking about educated German chicks with money and smarts. I have run into German girls with a thing for Asian guys, and one of my good friends in a Vietnamese guy who is pulling ass in Munich. But, dude works HARD, and a lot of times he settles for the chubby cute chick. These girls are very few and far between. I'd say it's as rare as finding a bunch if white chicks on the streets of DC with the hots for black guys. They're out there, but it's rare to find.

Any ideas on why this is? I have noticed that I don't do well with German girls.

Germany women are truly independent, not only because of benefits, but they are the most independent women in the world, along Dutch and women from the Scandinavian countries. A lot of them wouldnt like a man to approach them even if they find that specific man particularly attractive, because it means to them losing power of independence.. they are highly career oriented..

I am not understanding your response. Could you elaborate? Anyone else want to chime in?

I live with a German guy and from what I understand, they just don't have a lot of contact with Asian people and Asian culture so it seems weird to them.

Quote: (05-02-2017 04:18 PM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2017 02:36 PM)El_Gostro Wrote:  

I got laid well in Germany being a homeless guy with bad teeth and a dog...

you forgot the laptop and the internet connection

Nope! I was using library and university computers. Did buy a cheap tablet at Saturn once around 2015 but it died quickly. Didn't even have a a smartphone until 2016!


Anyway I wasn't trying to brag, just saying that it's not an impossible nut to crack.
While it seems this women in general have drank the strong independent carrerism kool aid(and how), that doesn't mean they are out of the game. If anything it might make them feel more attracted to boldness and bad boyism.
Where is Kirdiesel?

Quote: (05-02-2017 11:30 AM)Odin.fils.de.bor Wrote:  

Quote: (05-02-2017 08:11 AM)Naughty_Boy Wrote:  

Since I did recently some short trips to Poland (living in Hamburg) there are still worlds between German and Polish women. For me the average polish women almost wins in every category if you ignore the butterfaces and their missing fashion sense in smaller cities

I agree with that, i've been three times in Poland . Well, besides the looks, the polish girls are really without doubt friendlier than german girls. That's really a pity! i wish i was living in an economy like Germany but with girls like polish ones. However we can not have it all.
There are still good looking german women maybe some exeptions also when talking about the bahaviour. But you're going to waste a lot of time looking for those ones.

You already have the best of both worlds. Get a job close to the polish border (such as Berlin) or in a city with cheap flights to Poland.

A hot German girl is usually in a relationship, has attitudes or just an uneducated Vollassi Kanack girl.

Sidenote:
I remember one situation whilst studying in Hamburg. We went out with some international students to a Bar. There was a russian girl in our group, she was cleary an 8,5 and the hottest girl in the entire bar. She told me that she got depressed when she visited her friends in Moscow a week before because they went in a club and most of the girls in the club were prettier than her

Don't worry guys I am still here. I am just working a ton these days, traveling a little and working on my own version of a Tinder datasheet.

Quote: (04-29-2017 05:45 PM)Bateman Wrote:  

One should also not underestimate the language barrier. I´ve lived in Germany for almost a year recently, and my impression is that 7/10 girls are not comfortable speaking English with strangers, even though their language skills is acceptable. I often experienced that girls lost interest after they realized that they would need to have a conversation in English.

When that is being said, one should not generalize too much on a country with 82 million people.

What Bateman said is somewhat correct I don't know about 7/10 that seems about high but 50/50. As I said in my sheet its going to depend on her age and education. Younger girls will be much better than older girls.. I dont think anyone here is checking for girls 30 or older but soon as you start to get around that age English starts to drop off.

Any young German girl (18 to 26 who cant speak English is generally uneducated/ghetto or is what I call a Super German)

Super Germans are people who think Germany is the world. They strictly follow German trends, styles, traditions, music and think everything Germany is right. They cant speak English because they don't think its relevant to them and disregard it.. Germany is life!

Quote: (04-30-2017 12:02 AM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

Quote: (01-08-2012 03:54 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

Asian guys usually have no chance with German girls. I'm sorry to say. I've heard more racist shit coming from German girls that I thought were cool than I'd like to admit. It's ugly and when I hear it I tell them to stop. I'm talking about educated German chicks with money and smarts. I have run into German girls with a thing for Asian guys, and one of my good friends in a Vietnamese guy who is pulling ass in Munich. But, dude works HARD, and a lot of times he settles for the chubby cute chick. These girls are very few and far between. I'd say it's as rare as finding a bunch if white chicks on the streets of DC with the hots for black guys. They're out there, but it's rare to find.

Any ideas on why this is? I have noticed that I don't do well with German girls.

There is not a large representation of Asian men here AT ALL.. I have spoken with girls about Asian men and they generally (i love that word) buy into the stereotype that you guys are not masculine, have no game, etc etc etc.. Since there aren't enough of you guys around all they have to rely on is TV and bullshit like that. I don't remember the last time I seen an Asian dude with a German girl. Your best bet is to keep an extremely solid masculine frame and go forward.

Quote: (04-30-2017 04:20 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

I'm from the UK but have been living in Leipzig for around 10 months now. I can understand how many guys on here are put off/puzzled by German women in equal measure. Compared to women from the Anglosphere, they are definitely more interesting to interact with and noticeably less cunty in their attitudes, although they are not without their quirks, either. One thing which has struck me forcibly with German girls on their home turf - as opposed to when they travelling outside of their home town/city - is how they are not used to being approached by random guys on the street. Not only this, but German guys - especially younger ones - don't even seem to have the balls to look directly at attractive women, let alone approach them.


German women, however, are still very cagey about engaging in interactions with strangers, especially with men and so I feel that this is a huge headwind that I'm going to have to find some way of overcoming if I'm to have any success with daygame here. Maybe it's just a question of developing much tighter game - it's still too early to tell for me. I don't want to be pessimistic here, but I can understand why many German men look overseas for women, since gaming the local talent isn't particularly easy for the reasons that I've discussed. The last point I would make regarding gaming German women in Germany is that social circle game seems to be king here, which can be especially difficult to break into if you're not ethnically German.

What you are doing is very interesting because NO ONE is doing that. Day game is on my list of game things to try and see how it works.

German girls are not used to being approached by random strangers at all. Especially during the day while they are shopping or in the super market or anything like that. If you are a day game guru it could be an opportunity here but I have ZERO data on Day Game here wont act like I know.

German girls abroad as opposed to ones in country are night and day. Do not confuse these two girls. I have close friend here (who is a girl) and she tells me ALL of the shit she does. In Germany she dates strictly white German man. Her currently boyfriend is 6 foot plus CEO type of guy... but when she was on vacation she fucked 3 guys in 3 weeks. Spanish guy, Black guy.. When she told me this my mouth dropped.

So fellas dont be put off by German girls when you meet them outside of Germany. In country they are in "German mode" and just want to fit in and not be judged by their peers. This is why I had such great success with them in NYC as opposed to here.

If i met a hot German girl on vacation anywhere I would still try to smash her.

Headwinds with German girls:

-Could be difficult if you dont speak German
-If you are anything but White
-If you gaming them in country
-Are shorter than 1.80 or 5,10 (the taller you are the better)

I would only honestly really recommend this place for tall white men. Anything else and be prepared for some type of headwind. Not to say that you can't get through any of these but just be prepared for the wind to push/hold you back.

Curves:

German girls are also mostly not curvy. Hard pressed to find any curves on girls out here. A slim big breasted German girl is like a fucking unicorn.

If they do tend to have ANY curves they skew more toward bigger butts and legs rather than breasts so its actually a bad place for boob men like me haha.

Hot German girls:

I am not sure I agree with lots of hot German girl being in relationships. I know many hot single girls but they are just stuck the the fuck up. I think sometimes here women have unreasonable expectations of the men here. I know hot girls who have been single forever and im not surprised because of the my shit don't stink attitude.

I guess to close... Just read my sheet! All the data you could possibly need is in there.

Quote: (05-04-2017 01:48 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

Don't worry guys I am still here. I am just working a ton these days, traveling a little and working on my own version of a Tinder datasheet.

Quote: (04-29-2017 05:45 PM)Bateman Wrote:  

One should also not underestimate the language barrier. I´ve lived in Germany for almost a year recently, and my impression is that 7/10 girls are not comfortable speaking English with strangers, even though their language skills is acceptable. I often experienced that girls lost interest after they realized that they would need to have a conversation in English.

When that is being said, one should not generalize too much on a country with 82 million people.

What Bateman said is somewhat correct I don't know about 7/10 that seems about high but 50/50. As I said in my sheet its going to depend on her age and education. Younger girls will be much better than older girls.. I dont think anyone here is checking for girls 30 or older but soon as you start to get around that age English starts to drop off.

Any young German girl (18 to 26 who cant speak English is generally uneducated/ghetto or is what I call a Super German)

Super Germans are people who think Germany is the world. They strictly follow German trends, styles, traditions, music and think everything Germany is right. They cant speak English because they don't think its relevant to them and disregard it.. Germany is life!

Quote: (04-30-2017 12:02 AM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

Quote: (01-08-2012 03:54 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

Asian guys usually have no chance with German girls. I'm sorry to say. I've heard more racist shit coming from German girls that I thought were cool than I'd like to admit. It's ugly and when I hear it I tell them to stop. I'm talking about educated German chicks with money and smarts. I have run into German girls with a thing for Asian guys, and one of my good friends in a Vietnamese guy who is pulling ass in Munich. But, dude works HARD, and a lot of times he settles for the chubby cute chick. These girls are very few and far between. I'd say it's as rare as finding a bunch if white chicks on the streets of DC with the hots for black guys. They're out there, but it's rare to find.

Any ideas on why this is? I have noticed that I don't do well with German girls.

There is not a large representation of Asian men here AT ALL.. I have spoken with girls about Asian men and they generally (i love that word) buy into the stereotype that you guys are not masculine, have no game, etc etc etc.. Since there aren't enough of you guys around all they have to rely on is TV and bullshit like that. I don't remember the last time I seen an Asian dude with a German girl. Your best bet is to keep an extremely solid masculine frame and go forward.

Quote: (04-30-2017 04:20 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

I'm from the UK but have been living in Leipzig for around 10 months now. I can understand how many guys on here are put off/puzzled by German women in equal measure. Compared to women from the Anglosphere, they are definitely more interesting to interact with and noticeably less cunty in their attitudes, although they are not without their quirks, either. One thing which has struck me forcibly with German girls on their home turf - as opposed to when they travelling outside of their home town/city - is how they are not used to being approached by random guys on the street. Not only this, but German guys - especially younger ones - don't even seem to have the balls to look directly at attractive women, let alone approach them.


German women, however, are still very cagey about engaging in interactions with strangers, especially with men and so I feel that this is a huge headwind that I'm going to have to find some way of overcoming if I'm to have any success with daygame here. Maybe it's just a question of developing much tighter game - it's still too early to tell for me. I don't want to be pessimistic here, but I can understand why many German men look overseas for women, since gaming the local talent isn't particularly easy for the reasons that I've discussed. The last point I would make regarding gaming German women in Germany is that social circle game seems to be king here, which can be especially difficult to break into if you're not ethnically German.

What you are doing is very interesting because NO ONE is doing that. Day game is on my list of game things to try and see how it works.

German girls are not used to being approached by random strangers at all. Especially during the day while they are shopping or in the super market or anything like that. If you are a day game guru it could be an opportunity here but I have ZERO data on Day Game here wont act like I know.

German girls abroad as opposed to ones in country are night and day. Do not confuse these two girls. I have close friend here (who is a girl) and she tells me ALL of the shit she does. In Germany she dates strictly white German man. Her currently boyfriend is 6 foot plus CEO type of guy... but when she was on vacation she fucked 3 guys in 3 weeks. Spanish guy, Black guy.. When she told me this my mouth dropped.

So fellas dont be put off by German girls when you meet them outside of Germany. In country they are in "German mode" and just want to fit in and not be judged by their peers. This is why I had such great success with them in NYC as opposed to here.

If i met a hot German girl on vacation anywhere I would still try to smash her.

Headwinds with German girls:

-Could be difficult if you dont speak German
-If you are anything but White
-If you gaming them in country
-Are shorter than 1.80 or 5,10 (the taller you are the better)

I would only honestly really recommend this place for tall white men. Anything else and be prepared for some type of headwind. Not to say that you can't get through any of these but just be prepared for the wind to push/hold you back.

Curves:

German girls are also mostly not curvy. Hard pressed to find any curves on girls out here. A slim big breasted German girl is like a fucking unicorn.

If they do tend to have ANY curves they skew more toward bigger butts and legs rather than breasts so its actually a bad place for boob men like me haha.

Hot German girls:

I am not sure I agree with lots of hot German girl being in relationships. I know many hot single girls but they are just stuck the the fuck up. I think sometimes here women have unreasonable expectations of the men here. I know hot girls who have been single forever and im not surprised because of the my shit don't stink attitude.

I guess to close... Just read my sheet! All the data you could possibly need is in there.

I once met two smoking super Germans, both were solid 8's. They were extremely shy though

Guys I can say with 100% confidence if you want to go to a the best city with ethnic Germans (DE,CH,AT) Wien is your best best.

For game,girls and overall quality of life.

Quote: (05-05-2017 04:56 AM)Nowak Wrote:  

Guys I can say with 100% confidence if you want to go to a the best city with ethnic Germans (DE,CH,AT) Wien is your best best.

For game,girls and overall quality of life.

Very true Vienna is the best spot in the german-speaking area. However, when in Vienna, stick to the Romanian/Albanian/Serbian immigrant population. You will not be disappointed.

http://www.p12.nysed.gov/ciai/socst/grad...mage12.gif

Here is a map of world cultures seperated by religions.

As one can see, Germany fits into the same religious group as the UK, US and Australia. Hence, if you are coming from one of these countries don't expect Germany to be very different from your home country. Germany and the Netherlands are culturally the closest non-English-speaking countries to the anglosphere.

Austria feels already quite different and has at least as much things in common with Eastern and Southern Europe than Germany.

Quote: (04-30-2017 12:02 AM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

Quote: (01-08-2012 03:54 PM)americanInEurope Wrote:  

Asian guys usually have no chance with German girls. I'm sorry to say. I've heard more racist shit coming from German girls that I thought were cool than I'd like to admit. It's ugly and when I hear it I tell them to stop. I'm talking about educated German chicks with money and smarts. I have run into German girls with a thing for Asian guys, and one of my good friends in a Vietnamese guy who is pulling ass in Munich. But, dude works HARD, and a lot of times he settles for the chubby cute chick. These girls are very few and far between. I'd say it's as rare as finding a bunch if white chicks on the streets of DC with the hots for black guys. They're out there, but it's rare to find.

Any ideas on why this is? I have noticed that I don't do well with German girls.

I dunno how a single comment on the internet can be accepted point blank as Gospel. But if it appeared on RVF, it must be true huh.

Quote: (05-02-2017 09:55 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

I live with a German guy and from what I understand, they just don't have a lot of contact with Asian people and Asian culture so it seems weird to them.

"Weird" is a rather strong word to use when describing how Germans view "Asian culture", isn't it?

Asia isn't much more or less alien than much of the rest of Europe, save for CZ where Vietnamese is actually recognised as a minority language. What grounds then is there for Asians to be viewed particularly more negatively than anywhere else in Europe?

History aside, there just isn't any predilection for the Germans to look down on a certain race, Asians or otherwise. Kaiser Wilhelm II was an exception when he declared that: "you will make sure that the name of Germany will be remembered in China for a thousand years, so that no Chinaman, no matter whether his eyes are slit or not, will dare to look a German in the face..."

Consider that Germans are probably one of the most travelled of Europeans, in addition to the fact that I've always endured them to go out of their way to profess their degree of progressiveness.

I myself never experienced any further degree of racism in Germany than anywhere else in Europe; almost any of that came from Turks or Arabs there in fact (as with France).

Maybe your German housemate was just exercising good old protectionism over "his" women?

Quote: (05-02-2017 03:01 PM)goldenhinde Wrote:  

Quote: (05-01-2017 04:56 AM)reciproke Wrote:  

If you are in Germany and are interested in attractive, feminine and sophisticated girls, here's what you need to do: Go to the nearest Airport and take a flight to Eastern Europe.

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I get the impression that his thread is turning into a massive circle jerk on how German women are all, every last one of them, are the worst women in the world — fat, entitled, leftist, feminist, bigoted, careerist sluts. Pretty much every j'accuse that we would level at Anglo chicks. I think Germany is being seen as the new Anglosphere in that regard. While I would shy away from excessive praise of a country, too much of the extreme end is unhealthy — tarring every single woman of a country of 82 million.

The forum seems to attract a lot of the "grass is greener" sort who deplore their own women for those of better pastures, and I notice that a lot of the ire here is coming from native German RVFers.

Ultimately, one must realise that one doesn't merely choose a country for her women, so threads like this need more objective information so one can make do with what they get.

I don't 100% agree with americanInEurope but there is some truth to what he is saying. This is coming from two foreign guys living in country. It not that it can't be done but its going to be a grind as I previously said in the other thread.

This is again my opinion but on the hierarchy of attractiveness in Germany black men are above asian men and even we have to grind to get decent lays out here. Again nothing is impossible but I just don't see the AVERAGE asian guy doing better. If you are a 6 foot tall, muscular asian dude (and ive seen those) then fine you are going to be able to do work and hold your own out here with the German guys. But unless you look like that.. good luck.

German woman are NOT shit. Yes there are some personality disorders here (Coldness, inflexibility, too serious) but ALL of them aren't like that. The younger girls are much better in my opinion this regard. I got a 22 year old plate right now (and im 36) and shes totally relaxed and cool. I had a 30 year old plate before and it was problematic.

I have said it before and will say it again. There is quality to be had here but you just need to know where to find it.

Optimally, if you are a tall Native English speaking white guy you shouldn't really be having much problems with girls here. If you aren't doing well then something is up with your attraction, game or you dont mesh at all with the culture. No other reason than those. Being that type and as well as with that foreigner bonus you should be making moves.

I know an attractive American white dude here and is 5,8/ 5,9 who plays American football and he takes down girls way easier than I do. I honestly can't keep up. It is what it is.

My bird is German and I sincerely hope she mothers my children.
(that said,although I do enjoy taking a piss on the krauts I love them so!)

On typical "ethnic" german lassies, I don't fancy the square hips and farmer wristbones but then again I am of a different phenotype.
A big plus are their generationally cultivated beer tits!
And being a dark südlander with lighter eyes often got me in their good graces