So I ran into peculiar situation the other day and it's been sitting on my mind since so I thought I'd ask other forum members how they would have dealt with this as I'm sure I'm not the only one this has happened to.

So I was out walking with my main the other day and I was doing my own thing and not really engaging in conversation with her.

I suddenly look at her to say something and I see that she's looking straight ahead at a random guy giving him an IOI. It wasn't a major one like licking her lips or rustling her hair but I know an IOI when I see one.

It was over in about a second or so and I made as if nothing happened and continued what I was about to say but I was curious as to whether that was correct ?

I suppose you could make an argument for calling her out on it but I don't want to seem like I'm insecure, however this is my main and not some random side piece I'm just fucking so i do feel somewhat of a way about her doing that.

How would guys approach your main girl sneaking in an IOI to another guy in public ?

Are you marrying her?

Ignore it. Start looking at other girls.

Are you sure it was an IOI? Sometimes it can be an acquintance or just a politeness gesture. If I saw my wife doing an obvious IOI, I'd call her on it - but just looking isn't enough.

Quote: (04-16-2017 03:12 AM)godzilla Wrote:  

Are you marrying her?

Ignore it. Start looking at other girls.

I had briefly considered this but swiftly dismissed the idea for a couple of reasons:

1. I'm actually still gaming on the side and don't want to inject or arouse suspsions to my extra curricular activities.

2. This just doesn't seem like the correct long term strategy. What is the end game here ? It leads to me giving girls IOIs to make my girl insecure and jealous which doesn't seem very healthy. She may not even attribute my reasoning as to why I'm suddenly IOIing other girls to something that she probably doesn't even remember right now.

I suppose the correct long term strategy is raising my SMV to the point where she no longer feels the need to do this, however If IOIs partly operate on a subconscious level that won't necessarily stop this behaviour right ?

Quote: (04-16-2017 04:01 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

Are you sure it was an IOI? Sometimes it can be an acquintance or just a politeness gesture. If I saw my wife doing an obvious IOI, I'd call her on it - but just looking isn't enough.

Hmm technically speaking it may just have been a politeness gesture but I'll have to go with my gut on this one. If a girl had given me that same look I would have classified it as an IOI.

I think your right, calling her out for a split second looks seems to be insecure however I can't front, it still annoys me.

If she's not under consideration as mother of your children, shrug, take note, fuck her well, and game other girls. If she is, then put it down as a yellow flag and watch out for other signs.

I know its hard to believe sometimes, but girls are actually human too, you can't expect them to not stare at another guy for the rest of their lives.

At the time, if she is doing this often in front you, she might be trying to disrespect you but I dont know. And unless this is a girl you are going to marry or have children with, my advice is still the same, ignore it and do a hard long gaze at the next attractive women you walk by.

And making a girl jealous is fine. Why do you think so players have lots of girls around them?

Quote: (04-16-2017 03:05 AM)Sensei Creation Wrote:  

So I ran into peculiar situation the other day and it's been sitting on my mind since so I thought I'd ask other forum members how they would have dealt with this as I'm sure I'm not the only one this has happened to.

So I was out walking with my main the other day and I was doing my own thing and not really engaging in conversation with her.

I suddenly look at her to say something and I see that she's looking straight ahead at a random guy giving him an IOI. It wasn't a major one like licking her lips or rustling her hair but I know an IOI when I see one.

It was over in about a second or so and I made as if nothing happened and continued what I was about to say but I was curious as to whether that was correct ?

I suppose you could make an argument for calling her out on it but I don't want to seem like I'm insecure, however this is my main and not some random side piece I'm just fucking so i do feel somewhat of a way about her doing that.

How would guys approach your main girl sneaking in an IOI to another guy in public ?

So Let's get the "DROP HER SORRY ASS" out of the way

First thing first: You cannot gouge her eyes out so she might let her sight wandering and imagine what she want...
That doesn't mean that she'll cheat but something might excite her in a way you don't, as excitement is transferable she could let the pressure out with you later but that's only the surface of the problem.
Right now you only get the tip of the iceberg called "Women twisted Desire" where a third part is introduce (in an imaginary way!) and get you some freaky bedroom action (for more cf. My Secret Garden)






The thing is now that you caught her, don't be a clueless Tom Cruise (simp) by not reacting on her behavior, calling her out doesn't necessary mean being angry and frustrated about it but it give her the clue that you "Get it, you understand how it works...".

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She want’s you to 'get it' on your own, without having to be told how. That initiative and the experience needed to have had developed it makes you a Man worth competing for. Women despise a man who needs to be told to be dominant. Overtly relating this to a guy entirely defeats his credibility as a genuinely dominant male. The guy she wants to fuck is dominant because that’s ‘the way he is’ instead of who she had to tell him to be. Source

She may have act this way because she wanted to get caught but now that she haven't been, she might try to go a little further and accept to give her number, go on a date or get fucked since you didn't do shit about it.

Quote: (04-16-2017 04:04 AM)Sensei Creation Wrote:  

Quote: (04-16-2017 03:12 AM)godzilla Wrote:  

Are you marrying her?

Ignore it. Start looking at other girls.

I had briefly considered this but swiftly dismissed the idea for a couple of reasons:

1. I'm actually still gaming on the side and don't want to inject or arouse suspsions to my extra curricular activities.

2. This just doesn't seem like the correct long term strategy. What is the end game here ? It leads to me giving girls IOIs to make my girl insecure and jealous which doesn't seem very healthy. She may not even attribute my reasoning as to why I'm suddenly IOIing other girls to something that she probably doesn't even remember right now.

I suppose the correct long term strategy is raising my SMV to the point where she no longer feels the need to do this, however If IOIs partly operate on a subconscious level that won't necessarily stop this behaviour right ?

1. Instill doubt and suspicions in her mind, activate the competition by courting other women in front of her, Dread Game my friend, Dread Game is the answer...

2. So once you got your SMV higher will you still be attracted to some useless woman who is 2 leagues below you and didn't appreciate what she had when some 1 league higher throw themselves at you ? And how much time that getting your SMV higher will take ?

Let that bitch look.

Make. That. Pussy. Sing.

All girls do it. She just did a poor job of masking it.

Don't comment on it. Don't let her know you notice it.

Fuck other girls.

How would I approach that situation...

I would use it as an opportunity to spice up our sex life + take more power in the relationship.

Without seeming angry or too bothered by it and in a matter of fact sort of way, I would immediately tell her that she is NOT allowed to look at other men in that way and that when we get home, she will be disciplined...

I might even take her home right then and there. Take her home and as soon as we walk in the door, take her clothes off, tie her up, give her a good spanking and fuck the shit out of her while making her say out loud -- "im sorry daddy, i wont do it again"

Then, after cumming all over her face, fuck her again, maybe in the ass, while making her say -- "i need discipline".

That is what I would do.

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Your mindset might be different...

But, you definitely should NOT ignore it. Say something, tell her that you don't like that.

Quote: (04-16-2017 01:33 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

How would I approach that situation...

I would use it as an opportunity to spice up our sex life + take more power in the relationship.

Without seeming angry or too bothered by it and in a matter of fact sort of way, I would immediately tell her that she is NOT allowed to look at other men in that way and that when we get home, she will be disciplined...

I might even take her home right then and there. Take her home and as soon as we walk in the door, take her clothes off, tie her up, give her a good spanking and fuck the shit out of her while making her say out loud -- "im sorry daddy, i wont do it again"

Then, after cumming all over her face, fuck her again, maybe in the ass, while making her say -- "i need discipline".

That is what I would do.

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Your mindset might be different...

But, you definitely should NOT ignore it. Say something, tell her that you don't like that.

Pretty sure this is the correct play here. Cheers.

It took me many years to develop the knowledge, education, awareness, attitude, skill, mental control, and "vibe" to be able to behave this way...

I never knew that women liked to be submissive to a strong man...

I never knew that they will subconsciously test their man just to see how he will react, they want to see how he responds to pressure.....

I never knew that they want to be be put in their place..

I never knew that they crave leadership and discipline...

I never knew that sex was about power and submission..

I studied and trained extremely hard to learn these things.. I sacrificed other areas of life in order to gain this knowledge...

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You many not be ready to do exactly what I did but...

Absorb the spirit of my post... Carry it with you in your interactions with women..

This is the essence of male female interaction.. Life is survival of the fittest, women want to know that their man is fit enough to protect their pussy and it's offspring, they will test for this, they want you to show them that you are a warrior worthy of reproduction...

They will wander and drift off course occasionally, they like nothing more than to be put back on course by a strong man.

^

What G said.

I don't think you have to mention you are displeased. After all, there is always going to be some attractive person out there that that is going to catch their eye for the moment.

But when it happens, hard anal is on the menu for that night. And choking.

I had this drama with a chick a while back, here is my thread:

thread-51491.html

I love gio's idea. Its fucking brilliant.

You should do stuff like that anyway though, you don't need an excuse.

My problem with advice such as Gio's is that you're essentially conditioning her to keep doing it by giving them good, novel and dominant sex after doing things you don't like. It's positive reinforcement.

One thing I'm still not sure on is the effect of prolonged teasing as punishment. Will it increase or decrease the likelihood of bad behaviour? More practical experiments will be needed..

Quote: (04-19-2017 05:38 AM)Valentine Wrote:  

My problem with advice such as Gio's is that you're essentially conditioning her to keep doing it by giving them good, novel and dominant sex after doing things you don't like. It's positive reinforcement.

One thing I'm still not sure on is the effect of prolonged teasing as punishment. Will it increase or decrease the likelihood of bad behaviour? More practical experiments will be needed..

I was planning when to implent Gio's play when I also came to this conclusion.

What happens the next time she finds herself in that situation ? Does she purposefully look in order because she enjoys the thrill of being put back in her place ?

If so, the play failed.

It was to get her to stop, not provide her with a thrill button that she can press at will.

Can anyone weigh in on this aspect of the conundrum ?

Quote: (04-19-2017 01:12 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

I had this drama with a chick a while back, here is my thread:

thread-51491.html

I think it's important to frame here as your situation differs somewhat from mine.

Your girl was explicitly letting you know that she was checking out other guys and letting you know that she thought they were cute.

This is a bit different from this situation which I think requires a bit more finesse.

Training a woman is like training a dog. Words are by and large meaningless. You have to use positive and negative feelings to influence future behaviour.

You have to associate negative actions (as perceived by the master) with negative feelings (as felt by the dog or woman).

My dogs know that when I click my fingers that they had better drop what they're doing and pay attention. They have learned this because I have taught them that if they don't respond in that manner then bad things will happen.

In the case of a woman, simply doing something that snaps her out of her good feeling (flirting) and shifts it into a bad feeling (knowing she fucked up and you noticed) is what you need to do to maintain the master/servant relationship.

Of course, unlike a dog you can't clip her behind the ear in public, but you can still wash her rebelliousness out with other negative outcomes like a sudden start and the fear of uncertainty afterwards.

Let's take the situation you were in. Out for a walk and she IOIs some guy. Put your hand up near her ears and click your finger loudly. As she becomes startled bring your hand forward and point to something of the vaguest interest that you're apparently looking at. Now she's completely unsure of what the fuck is going on. Did he just catch me IOIing that guy? If so, why is he pointing at that guy riding a bike? What the fuck just happened?

Tell her something that's just a little bit odd, and leave your tone a little odd too. Something that will leave her once again wondering just what the fuck happened. Something chatty yet nothing that you would normally click your fingers in her ear to draw her attention to so suddenly. "I used to have a bike similar to that one".

Then pretend nothing is out of the ordinary and move on with your day. You might be well served to remain just a little aloof to retain that gnawing sense of dread she's feeling at that point.

She will have no fucking clue how to react. She can't bring up your odd behaviour because it's tied to the IOI she doesn't want to admit to, and so her hamster will be doing laps for days.

Did he realise?
Did he correct me?
How do I know?
I can't exactly bring it up, can I!

In doing this you will replace the giddy thrill of her IOIing other guys in your presence with a gnawing dread that conjures up this 48 hour hamster trip she embarked on last time she pulled a stunt like that.

Most importantly you will have done it without being dragged into her petty little game of "chase me" where your actions are openly dictated by her misbehaviour.

Dogs and women. You just gotta get inside their heads and fuck with the wiring.

Quote: (04-19-2017 08:58 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Dogs and women. You just gotta get inside their heads and fuck with the wiring.

More please!

G

I suppose it's worth adding that you must absolutely balance covert punishment for unwanted behaviour with covert positive reinforcement for good behaviour.

Unlike a dog, a woman can simply choose to leave if all she feels are negative emotions when she's around you. At best, even if she stays she'll be a terminal emotional energy sink.

Again, taking OP's example, if she got the chills from your "response" to her behaviour and then put her arms around your waist and buried her head under your arm then you could feel free to drop the aloof act, pull her close and get on with your day. Again, there will be no specific "cause and effect" for her to manipulate. Just a general sense that disloyalty = bad-feelz and loyalty = good-feelz.

Mr. Neubache is testifying to reality.

And if you feel bad about it, remember that most women actually believe they are training you, and when they get together, they brag and share tips about it.

Any time she makes you feel mean and controlling, do a Google search on "How to train your man" and the feelings will evaporate:

Train Your Man

6 Sneaky Ways to Train Your Husband

Owning and Operating Men

Or how about this woman who was writing an article on people who trained Orcas, and decided to use what she had learned on her husband?

What Shamu Taught Me About a Happy Marriage


Even Christian pastors are not immune:






Someone is always being trained, and you need to decide if it is you or not.

Last bit, I knew a married guy who was still a horndog and checked out other women all the time when he was with his wife.

His technique when caught was either to say to his wife:

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I'm so glad you don't dress like that.

Or:

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That dress would look so much better on you!

By the way, his wife knew exactly what he was doing, and was charmed by his technique.

^ Good advice.

It can be difficult to spontaneously think of a situational punishment like in Leonard's first example so you can always fall back on the very simplest punishment, which comes from Mystery Method - the takeaway. Simply withdraw your attention if she does anything that displeases you.

Step above that - soft next. See BlackDragon for some good info on that - basically going no contact for a week then picking up where you left off like nothing happened. Every time I've done that the girl has subsequently been a lot more eager to stay in my good books.

I never refer to any of my girls as "my partner."

If your girl sees you as a god, she won't be flirting with other men in any real way.

Take of note of it and step things up on your end to elicit more devotion from her.