This thread gives me another excuse to quote from Trump's fantastic recent
interview with the NY Times. Here is the quote in context:
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UNKNOWN: Mr. President-elect, I wanted to ask you, there was a conference this past weekend in Washington of people who pledged their allegiance to Nazism.
TRUMP: Boy, you are really into this stuff, huh?
LOL, exactly. That's the only thing there is to say both to the stupid and mildly nasty dough-faced geeks playacting at being "Nazis" with their worthless salutes, and to the hysterical Year Zero press trying to make a big deal out of it and pretend it's something that deserves even a millisecond of attention.
Boy, you are really into this stuff, huh?
There is a larger point to make, which is this. Our society has gone a long way towards becoming a
feminized society -- a singularly bad and damaging trend which Trump's miraculous victory will do much to reverse. I'm sure many dudes here would go along with that statement, but I don't think they clearly understand what this feminization really means and just how it manifests itself.
Guys in the 'sphere tend to think that feminization consists mainly of specific ideas or positions associated with radical feminism, and with the privileging and pedestalization of the female in every possible legal, cultural, and economic context. And that is certainly true, as far as it goes, and extremely pernicious in and of itself. But the deeper effects of feminization extend far beyond that.
What these effects amount to is the implicit adoption of feminine behaviors and attitudes writ large in the general discourse and its very tone and flavor. And these behaviors and attitudes can be summed in the following way:
talky, hysterical, and unmoored from reality.
The idiocy of the nonsense argument about these brownshirt-wannabe losers and their antics in some Washington hotel is a perfect example of this, and what 'sphere guys need to realize is that it applies to both sides. The Year Zero media in their whipped up panic and pretense that we are in danger of being overrun by "Nazis" or the "KKK" -- things that have no existence and are of no interest to anyone in the US -- are
talky, hysterical, and unmoored from reality. But so is the so-called "alt right" in their endless web chatter, solemn pretenses to be saviors of the "white race", and countless other mincing affectations and agitated nonsense. It is
all part of the feminization that has infected our social discourse; it all has the same flavor of chatter, hysteria, unreality, and looniness.
As with females, this sort of thing is far worse collectively than any of its individual components are. Individual females are mainly just dopey and moderately loony; but give them and their discourse collective power and their hysteria, tendency to become unhinged, immodesty, whininess, disregard for the facts, and
complete lack of humor come together and form something that can become quite nasty. That is what characterizes so much of today's web chatter and again it should be realized that while it is most characteristically and importantly a part of the Year Zero progressive left -- importantly because they are the ones with the academic, legal and political wherewithal to make it
count -- it is not different in kind on the ostensible other side. It's all part of the same feminized nonsense chatter that even self-avowed "masculine" men have become addicted to, because no one escapes the effects of the dominant culture of the time.
It's been interesting and instructive in the past couple of weeks to observe two hysterias in certain parts of the left and the right that are like nasty mirror images of each other: the lunatic obsession of the
web left with the idea that the election in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania has been "hacked" in Trump's favor -- complete with endless chatter by obsessives of a certain kind about "patterns" in the numbers that supposedly "prove" this hacking beyond any doubt; and the lunatic obsession of the
web right -- including, sadly, some guys here who should know better -- with the supposed existence of "child sex rings" in pizza parlors, Satanic rituals, "pedo code words" in hacked emails, and "proofs" of all this nonsense by the mildly-to-moderately mentally ill. Both phenomena are a good example of what happens when certain otherwise harmless or even useful in the right context male qualities -- autistic OCD and pattern-seeking -- become amplified and
licensed by the overall feminization of discourse and the climate of chatter and hysteria unmoored from reality that it fosters over time. Because of the feminization that has taken hold in our society, both sides are caught equally in that nonsense world of unreality.
Trump's election offers a golden opportunity to reverse this trend. We do need more masculinity injected into our cultural context; not
feminine chatter about masculinity but the thing itself. And that means: more humor; more common sense; more shrugging freedom of thought; more greed for money and progress as self-evident goods; and a lot less tolerance for bullshit, chatter, and hysterical ideological cant constructs that have no relation to reality. At his best, Trump unthinkingly embodies these masculine virtues; and even at his worst, their opposites that have dominated our discourse for too long are completely alien to him. Maybe in time, the hearty crew of centipedes will actually learn something from their God Emperor and become a lot less interested in "Nazis" or "child sex rings" or any other
unreal nonsense, and a lot more interested in working hard, making money, and having a good laugh at the end of the day. Nothing would be better and healthier for our country and its men.