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He means they're not just fad languages that may or may not catch on.
He means they're not just fad languages that may or may not catch on.
Quote: (10-16-2016 12:28 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:
Anyone have tips if they've ever worked in a production support/engineering role in the finance world? Seems most firms use tech like UNIX, shell scripting to automate tasks and scripting in common interpreted languages (i.e. Python and Ruby).
Quote: (10-16-2016 09:57 PM)chicane Wrote:
Quote: (10-16-2016 12:28 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:
Anyone have tips if they've ever worked in a production support/engineering role in the finance world? Seems most firms use tech like UNIX, shell scripting to automate tasks and scripting in common interpreted languages (i.e. Python and Ruby).
It varies. Typically the mindset is stuck back in the mid-1990s. Very slow cycle rate, new deploys can take months to happen. In addition, the automation usually sucks. Lots of manual operations. Everybody is stuck using Windows and server access is often via jump boxes that don't allow any scripting and sometimes copy & paste doesn't work.
I've done work for both Intuit and Schwab. Don't go there if you value your soul.
Quote: (10-16-2016 12:28 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:
Anyone have tips if they've ever worked in a production support/engineering role in the finance world? Seems most firms use tech like UNIX, shell scripting to automate tasks and scripting in common interpreted languages (i.e. Python and Ruby).
Quote: (10-16-2016 11:23 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:
Quote: (10-16-2016 09:57 PM)chicane Wrote:
Quote: (10-16-2016 12:28 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:
Anyone have tips if they've ever worked in a production support/engineering role in the finance world? Seems most firms use tech like UNIX, shell scripting to automate tasks and scripting in common interpreted languages (i.e. Python and Ruby).
It varies. Typically the mindset is stuck back in the mid-1990s. Very slow cycle rate, new deploys can take months to happen. In addition, the automation usually sucks. Lots of manual operations. Everybody is stuck using Windows and server access is often via jump boxes that don't allow any scripting and sometimes copy & paste doesn't work.
I've done work for both Intuit and Schwab. Don't go there if you value your soul.
Definitely extended hours- but it seems the pay and employment packages are highly lucrative at places like Goldman, Deutsche, Barclays, etc.
Quote: (10-24-2016 06:47 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:
Recommend course to learn php with the purpose of Wordpress programming?
Quote: (10-16-2016 12:28 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:
Anyone have tips if they've ever worked in a production support/engineering role in the finance world? Seems most firms use tech like UNIX, shell scripting to automate tasks and scripting in common interpreted languages (i.e. Python and Ruby).
Quote: (10-25-2016 05:52 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:
Quote: (10-24-2016 06:47 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:
Recommend course to learn php with the purpose of Wordpress programming?
What's your general programming experience?
Quote: (10-25-2016 06:24 AM)ivansirko Wrote:
Quote: (10-16-2016 12:28 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:
Anyone have tips if they've ever worked in a production support/engineering role in the finance world? Seems most firms use tech like UNIX, shell scripting to automate tasks and scripting in common interpreted languages (i.e. Python and Ruby).
Beware.... a lot of those finance companies use COBOL.
Quote: (10-25-2016 05:52 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:
Quote: (10-24-2016 06:47 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:
Recommend course to learn php with the purpose of Wordpress programming?
What's your general programming experience?
Quote: (10-25-2016 08:18 AM)ElFlaco Wrote:
Quote: (10-25-2016 05:52 AM)AntiTrace Wrote:
Quote: (10-24-2016 06:47 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:
Recommend course to learn php with the purpose of Wordpress programming?
What's your general programming experience?
That's the relevant question. Any experience already with PHP? With other languages (what type)? I assume you are already familiar with Wordpress as an Administrator.
If you have a few languages under your belt, you could probably just read part of a PHP manual from the beginning at php.net to get the general idea. From there, start building your site and research whatever Wordpress programming issues you run into along the way. Build a child theme based on one of the most recent default themes. Put your own modifications in your own plugins, better there than in functions.php. Remember, never modify the core files, always use hooks. The Wordpress Codex does a fairly decent job of explaining these types of things.
Unfortunately, Wordpress programming has a lot of legacy issues, so there isn't a consistent way that things are done. I've been caught up a few times on issues related to whether a query is done 'in the loop' or not, for example. Arguments are not consistent across functions. Fortunately, whatever problem you run into, someone else has probably already faced it and posted a solution somewhere. The user base is huge.
Quote: (10-26-2016 10:50 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:Have you looked at automation for your workflow? You're gonna have to do the same setup for web as well.....
I only have Python experience, inspired by the thread FrenchCorporation made. I got ok, wrote some fairly extensive scripts, but ultimately I thought dealing with setting up servers and writing/migrating/updating models and databases from scratch was way too time consuming for my needs.
I'd rather use Wordpress because all that is taken care off. I'd like to get to the point where I can do custom stuff for clients or do some custom websites for my own projects, scraping, data collection, etc.
Quote: (10-26-2016 10:50 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:
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I only have Python experience, inspired by the thread FrenchCorporation made. I got ok, wrote some fairly extensive scripts, but ultimately I thought dealing with setting up servers and writing/migrating/updating models and databases from scratch was way too time consuming for my needs.
I'd rather use Wordpress because all that is taken care off. I'd like to get to the point where I can do custom stuff for clients or do some custom websites for my own projects, scraping, data collection, etc.
Quote: (10-27-2016 01:56 PM)RichieP Wrote:
Quote: (10-26-2016 10:50 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:
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I only have Python experience, inspired by the thread FrenchCorporation made. I got ok, wrote some fairly extensive scripts, but ultimately I thought dealing with setting up servers and writing/migrating/updating models and databases from scratch was way too time consuming for my needs.
I'd rather use Wordpress because all that is taken care off. I'd like to get to the point where I can do custom stuff for clients or do some custom websites for my own projects, scraping, data collection, etc.
This is kinda fuzzy - think carefully about what your end goal is.
Building simple websites for clients?
Or your own scraping/data projects?
For the former - learn how to outsource. For the latter, keep going with python. One is an digital service business model, the other is a technical science project.
Quote: (10-27-2016 02:26 PM)RichieP Wrote:
Cool! Sounds like you know what you want. Before you were talking about wordpress for a custom service business and personal scraping/data projects in the same breath - my point was, they're different goals and need different tools. Good luck with your biz idea - it sounds solid.