You may ask: "Why a sheet on Tinder in the Philippines? It's so ridiculously easy." Well, not everyone agrees. I got requests from two members who were not getting the results they wanted and asked me for help.
The goal of this guide is so you can emulate the strategies I used to pull 1 girl a day with the lowest time investment possible. If you have different goals, the tips I give here while maximise quantity and quality (whatever you're after).
I did this for weeks at a time in both Makati (Manila) and Cebu City. I'll write more on these cities later.
The management summary
As your profile pic, use one with you and either your grandma or an infant to maximise the amount of matches.
Test your profile. When you get 80% match rate, start liking selectively to increase quality.
Set your location to the richest part of town to filter for poor girls.
Don't send more then 4-5 messages before you invite them for coffee. Most conversations can be brief and business-like if your profile is right. Banter should be saved for the date, to build comfort.
Meet in a coffee place in a non-sketchy neighbourhood and after an hour take them upstairs.
How to filter out poor girls
Tinder works wonders in bigger cities. Girls need a smartphone to make use of the app. So you won't find the poorest girls on there, which is good in my opinion. I want to minimise doubts about a girls intentions as it takes too much mental energy.
When I was in Manila, I lived in Makati which is the "business" part of town. I kept my matching distance low, as to get mostly girls who were either working and living in Makati. This ensured those girls had a good income. Most of them insisted on paying for their own coffee, or paying for mine. Quite a few earned more then I do (yes, I asked) and most of them brought food or something else on a second date.
If you are a beginner in game, I definitely recommend limiting encounters with poor girls. Realise that you have to work harder for a similar result because you have more trouble relating to each other. Besides, you are not captain-save-a-hoe, right?
Screen for logistics
To limit time investment on your end, excessive waiting and logistical bullshit, keep the swipe distance tight. You'll get girls who live and work in the neighbourhood and who can easily come to the coffee shop near your place. I became a big fan of call center employees because they could swing by before or after their shift.
Some girls travel between the province and the city regularly. I would avoid those girls. The goal is to keep your time investment als low as possible. And the logistics make dating overly complicated.
In Cebu City, the logistics are not much of a problem compared to Manila.
How to ensure quantity
When I first arrived in Manila in january, I just used some pictures from my Facebook. I'm genetically ugly, but still got quite a few matches. However, I went to a <40% swipe rate to an almost 100% swipe rate by changing my main profile picture. I experimented with different pictures, but the one that was best was one in which I play scrabble with my grandma. This makes sense, because Philippine girls are very family oriented. Another one I used was me holding a cute Filipino baby. Both lead to a match explosion, in which almost every girl would swipe me. I always test swipe this to prevent I miss a girl I find really beautiful or interesting for whatever reason.
The profile text you use doesn't matter match. I'd suggest leaving it blank or short and simple.
How to ensure quality
Just like in any other country, there are ugly ducks and beautiful girls on Tinder. You have to understand that Filipina girls tend to be chubby, or are short with wide hips. Some people have said that the girls on Tinder are shit, but I disagree. I've met with a few girls that I found very attractive. Personality wise, I've also met a few cool girls. And two of them almost outfucked me in how nymph-like they were in bed. So don't worry too much about finding the right girl. If you have sex with a new one every day, you'll find girls you like soon enough.
This goes without saying: but if she doesn't have pictures of her body on there she's fat. I've actually confirmed this by planning dates with only headshots. The exceptions there are to this rule don't warrant Tinder-liking them because of the many alternatives who do have body pics.
In Manila there's a big stack of girls. In Cebu there are less girls on Tinder, and you have to look more for quality. However, I think it's still worth it because the effort it takes to get them on a date is very low. And once you get them out it's very easy to have them come back to your place.
How to weed out Ladyboys
Most are easily spotted. Just ask if you are not sure. Prepare to calmly move on when she happens to be female and gets offended.
So you got a match. How to get them to meet.
In Manila I used a very easy script.
"Hi"
"How are u"
"Are u from ..." (... = the place you want to meet them, in my case Makati)
"Wanna have coffee on ... or ...?" (... = day of the week)
That's it. Because the favourable dating market, most girls are very eager to meet and don't need a lot of chat beforehand. If I got a little resistance, I would ask one or two very light questions, then ask if they either had Viber or WhatsApp and then go for the date. This worked 80% of the time. If I'd get resistance a second time, I unmatched.
In Cebu I had to expand this strategy a bit. The girls were less eager to meet there. Also, the "where are you from" question is not relevant since Cebu is way smaller then Manila.
What I inserted in Cebu:
"So tell me a little about yourself."
If she doesn't spill the beans, ask again. Don't accept anything other then an answer to your question. When she did, make an insightful comment or question that shows you understand. A light qualifier will suffice. ("So you are a family-oriented person. In what way?"
How to take them home on the first date
Make sure your apartment is in an area with not too much hookers, sex tourists or criminals. In the beginning I accidentally booked a place near the red light district in Manila. This made it hard to get girls to put out on the first date. It took at least 60 minutes in a coffee shop and 90 minutes of comfort building back in my place. Who has time for that? :-)
After I got an apartment in a very safe but boring part of Makati, it was very smooth sailing. I'd invite the girl to a coffee shop in the same building, although I had quite a few come directly to my condo. When in the coffee shop, we'd get 2 coffee's to go. In the beginning I'd sit with them in the coffee shop for 45 minutes and then take them upstairs. But I found that it was easier to walk from the coffee shop to the pool, and then walk to my condo. Most of the time an excuse was not needed, but if it was I used the "need to recharge my phone"-line.
Make sure you arrive clean shaven. Be friendly towards her and don't do anything drastic. As long as you come off as a normal guy and walk her casually upstairs, she will follow you.
How to prevent LMR
If you get last minute resistance when you initiate a make out or mating, you are either going too fast or come off as disinterested. I never got any LMR (except once) and I'll show you why.
When she's in your condo, don't jump her like a hungry lion. Treat her like a human being for christ sake. I know there are some newbies out there who don't understand this principle, so to be clear: seat her, put on some music, chat for a while, share some coffee or drink. When she feels comfortable and is ready, start making out with her. When you err on the safe side in terms of time, you prevent she doesn't trust you.
The difference between Tinder girls in Makati and Cebu
I rarely encountered bitch shields in Manila and the girls where overall cooler then their Cebu counterparts. They have more going on in their lives and understand the value of hard work. The Cebu girls have generally more time on your hands and are a bit sweeter. However, you may encounter some mean behaviour every now and then. As long as you are unreactive you have nothing to worry about. I expect nothing less from the players on this forum.
The goal of this guide is so you can emulate the strategies I used to pull 1 girl a day with the lowest time investment possible. If you have different goals, the tips I give here while maximise quantity and quality (whatever you're after).
I did this for weeks at a time in both Makati (Manila) and Cebu City. I'll write more on these cities later.
The management summary
As your profile pic, use one with you and either your grandma or an infant to maximise the amount of matches.
Test your profile. When you get 80% match rate, start liking selectively to increase quality.
Set your location to the richest part of town to filter for poor girls.
Don't send more then 4-5 messages before you invite them for coffee. Most conversations can be brief and business-like if your profile is right. Banter should be saved for the date, to build comfort.
Meet in a coffee place in a non-sketchy neighbourhood and after an hour take them upstairs.
How to filter out poor girls
Tinder works wonders in bigger cities. Girls need a smartphone to make use of the app. So you won't find the poorest girls on there, which is good in my opinion. I want to minimise doubts about a girls intentions as it takes too much mental energy.
When I was in Manila, I lived in Makati which is the "business" part of town. I kept my matching distance low, as to get mostly girls who were either working and living in Makati. This ensured those girls had a good income. Most of them insisted on paying for their own coffee, or paying for mine. Quite a few earned more then I do (yes, I asked) and most of them brought food or something else on a second date.
If you are a beginner in game, I definitely recommend limiting encounters with poor girls. Realise that you have to work harder for a similar result because you have more trouble relating to each other. Besides, you are not captain-save-a-hoe, right?
Screen for logistics
To limit time investment on your end, excessive waiting and logistical bullshit, keep the swipe distance tight. You'll get girls who live and work in the neighbourhood and who can easily come to the coffee shop near your place. I became a big fan of call center employees because they could swing by before or after their shift.
Some girls travel between the province and the city regularly. I would avoid those girls. The goal is to keep your time investment als low as possible. And the logistics make dating overly complicated.
In Cebu City, the logistics are not much of a problem compared to Manila.
How to ensure quantity
When I first arrived in Manila in january, I just used some pictures from my Facebook. I'm genetically ugly, but still got quite a few matches. However, I went to a <40% swipe rate to an almost 100% swipe rate by changing my main profile picture. I experimented with different pictures, but the one that was best was one in which I play scrabble with my grandma. This makes sense, because Philippine girls are very family oriented. Another one I used was me holding a cute Filipino baby. Both lead to a match explosion, in which almost every girl would swipe me. I always test swipe this to prevent I miss a girl I find really beautiful or interesting for whatever reason.
The profile text you use doesn't matter match. I'd suggest leaving it blank or short and simple.
How to ensure quality
Just like in any other country, there are ugly ducks and beautiful girls on Tinder. You have to understand that Filipina girls tend to be chubby, or are short with wide hips. Some people have said that the girls on Tinder are shit, but I disagree. I've met with a few girls that I found very attractive. Personality wise, I've also met a few cool girls. And two of them almost outfucked me in how nymph-like they were in bed. So don't worry too much about finding the right girl. If you have sex with a new one every day, you'll find girls you like soon enough.
This goes without saying: but if she doesn't have pictures of her body on there she's fat. I've actually confirmed this by planning dates with only headshots. The exceptions there are to this rule don't warrant Tinder-liking them because of the many alternatives who do have body pics.
In Manila there's a big stack of girls. In Cebu there are less girls on Tinder, and you have to look more for quality. However, I think it's still worth it because the effort it takes to get them on a date is very low. And once you get them out it's very easy to have them come back to your place.
How to weed out Ladyboys
Most are easily spotted. Just ask if you are not sure. Prepare to calmly move on when she happens to be female and gets offended.
So you got a match. How to get them to meet.
In Manila I used a very easy script.
"Hi"
"How are u"
"Are u from ..." (... = the place you want to meet them, in my case Makati)
"Wanna have coffee on ... or ...?" (... = day of the week)
That's it. Because the favourable dating market, most girls are very eager to meet and don't need a lot of chat beforehand. If I got a little resistance, I would ask one or two very light questions, then ask if they either had Viber or WhatsApp and then go for the date. This worked 80% of the time. If I'd get resistance a second time, I unmatched.
In Cebu I had to expand this strategy a bit. The girls were less eager to meet there. Also, the "where are you from" question is not relevant since Cebu is way smaller then Manila.
What I inserted in Cebu:
"So tell me a little about yourself."
If she doesn't spill the beans, ask again. Don't accept anything other then an answer to your question. When she did, make an insightful comment or question that shows you understand. A light qualifier will suffice. ("So you are a family-oriented person. In what way?"
How to take them home on the first date
Make sure your apartment is in an area with not too much hookers, sex tourists or criminals. In the beginning I accidentally booked a place near the red light district in Manila. This made it hard to get girls to put out on the first date. It took at least 60 minutes in a coffee shop and 90 minutes of comfort building back in my place. Who has time for that? :-)
After I got an apartment in a very safe but boring part of Makati, it was very smooth sailing. I'd invite the girl to a coffee shop in the same building, although I had quite a few come directly to my condo. When in the coffee shop, we'd get 2 coffee's to go. In the beginning I'd sit with them in the coffee shop for 45 minutes and then take them upstairs. But I found that it was easier to walk from the coffee shop to the pool, and then walk to my condo. Most of the time an excuse was not needed, but if it was I used the "need to recharge my phone"-line.
Make sure you arrive clean shaven. Be friendly towards her and don't do anything drastic. As long as you come off as a normal guy and walk her casually upstairs, she will follow you.
How to prevent LMR
If you get last minute resistance when you initiate a make out or mating, you are either going too fast or come off as disinterested. I never got any LMR (except once) and I'll show you why.
When she's in your condo, don't jump her like a hungry lion. Treat her like a human being for christ sake. I know there are some newbies out there who don't understand this principle, so to be clear: seat her, put on some music, chat for a while, share some coffee or drink. When she feels comfortable and is ready, start making out with her. When you err on the safe side in terms of time, you prevent she doesn't trust you.
The difference between Tinder girls in Makati and Cebu
I rarely encountered bitch shields in Manila and the girls where overall cooler then their Cebu counterparts. They have more going on in their lives and understand the value of hard work. The Cebu girls have generally more time on your hands and are a bit sweeter. However, you may encounter some mean behaviour every now and then. As long as you are unreactive you have nothing to worry about. I expect nothing less from the players on this forum.