Quote: (08-14-2016 02:22 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

On a sidenote: I think someone asked, what a good IG page looks like. One of my favorite pages is @followtheraven. This guy must be getting a lot of pussy from his Instagram (assuming he is not gay). If he followed this guide, he would easily grow to 50k followers by the end of the year.

Just checked this guys whole profile out Rag. He's definitely not gay. Looks like he's well off and connected which is how he is living this lifestyle. I also think he is monetizing his Instagram as there are some post where he gives shout outs to the hotel he's staying at.

It is a good example of a lifestyle someone like Gmanifesto talks about. Hitting up the top spots suited up and traveling the world.

Its always cool to check out profiles like the one this guy has and see what kind of photos he's posting. If I like a photo I see anywhere on instagram, I'll screenshot it and then try to create something similar to it or even better than it on my own.

Quote: (08-15-2016 11:28 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 02:22 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

On a sidenote: I think someone asked, what a good IG page looks like. One of my favorite pages is @followtheraven. This guy must be getting a lot of pussy from his Instagram (assuming he is not gay). If he followed this guide, he would easily grow to 50k followers by the end of the year.

Just checked this guys whole profile out Rag. He's definitely not gay. Looks like he's well off and connected which is how he is living this lifestyle. I also think he is monetizing his Instagram as there are some post where he gives shout outs to the hotel he's staying at.

It is a good example of a lifestyle someone like Gmanifesto talks about. Hitting up the top spots suited up and traveling the world.

Its always cool to check out profiles like the one this guy has and see what kind of photos he's posting. If I like a photo I see anywhere on instagram, I'll screenshot it and then try to create something similar to it or even better than it on my own.

I assumed that he is gay because he DMed me when he was in Bangkok. He said "i should visit him in Dubai sometime"

Quote: (08-15-2016 08:00 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2016 06:51 PM)corsega Wrote:  

How many people are you having to follow per hour to get the 75-100 per hour?

Too many. So many it will get you banned. Be realistic, unless you have an ass of Kardashian you are not getting 2400 follows per day

Nobody said anything about getting 2400 a day. I do this for 1 hour and gain 100 followers. Or max for 2 hours per day for 150-200. After I get that many I wait until the next day. Also it's free.

I follow about 400-500 to get 100. Then I unfollow using the app I mentioned.

Quote: (08-16-2016 02:52 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2016 11:28 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 02:22 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

On a sidenote: I think someone asked, what a good IG page looks like. One of my favorite pages is @followtheraven. This guy must be getting a lot of pussy from his Instagram (assuming he is not gay). If he followed this guide, he would easily grow to 50k followers by the end of the year.

Just checked this guys whole profile out Rag. He's definitely not gay. Looks like he's well off and connected which is how he is living this lifestyle. I also think he is monetizing his Instagram as there are some post where he gives shout outs to the hotel he's staying at.

It is a good example of a lifestyle someone like Gmanifesto talks about. Hitting up the top spots suited up and traveling the world.

Its always cool to check out profiles like the one this guy has and see what kind of photos he's posting. If I like a photo I see anywhere on instagram, I'll screenshot it and then try to create something similar to it or even better than it on my own.

I assumed that he is gay because he DMed me when he was in Bangkok. He said "i should visit him in Dubai sometime"

hahaha maybe he's bisexual.

Quote: (08-16-2016 09:44 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2016 08:00 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2016 06:51 PM)corsega Wrote:  

How many people are you having to follow per hour to get the 75-100 per hour?

Too many. So many it will get you banned. Be realistic, unless you have an ass of Kardashian you are not getting 2400 follows per day

Nobody said anything about getting 2400 a day. I do this for 1 hour and gain 100 followers. Or max for 2 hours per day for 150-200. After I get that many I wait until the next day. Also it's free.

I follow about 400-500 to get 100. Then I unfollow using the app I mentioned.

He said about getting 75-100 per hour.
If you follow 600 people that can bring you 75 followers if you are targeting a good niche. But 75 followers will come gradually within next 3 days, as it takes time for people to check their IGs. To get 75 followers per hour, any given hour, you must follow around 15000 people per daynight preferably from different time zones. I don't see this being possible. May-be I am not understanding something.
@corsega: Could you elaborate on this?

Yeah, I tried it out and I find those numbers hard to believe.

Went to Martin Berkhan's Instagram (the leangains guy, my niche is fitness) and followed the first 50 people that didn't have private accounts. After 6 hours, I only have 5 people that followed me back. Not even sure any of those were people that I followed.

This guy must have the sauce because my follow back is pushing 25% and people have told me that's damn good. So cheers to you!

On another note, I'm well over 1000 new followers and so the average for me is about 3.5-4 days for every new 1000 followers. At least 60% are female which is great. Think it has to do with my niche and again my great pics. Already noticed almost every girl I DM responding to my messages ASAP compared to when I had sub 500 followers and took a few days to get a hit back.

No on to the dirty: Got a little greedy with the liking and was temporarily banned from liking. I read it's only 24 hours, but don't want to risk it so won't like anything for 7 days. Also got more greedy with the following and was temporarily banned from that one too. I read that's only 12-24 hours, but will start back after 48 hours. It's actually perfect timing I got banned as I'm having a shit ton of people I followed who aren't' following back so i'm running FL to unfollow them all. I discovered the limit is about 80 unfollow per hour so i programed FL to unfollow anywhere from 60-70 per hour at average of 1 every 45 seconds or so. It's been running for almost 24 hours non stop now with no problems.

I'm going to just follow this 80 people per option rule from now on regarding my likes, following and unfollow task. Once I get to 5000 followers, currently at 2k, I will post a few new pics and come tell you guys what my followers to picture likes and comments ratio area.

-CD

Coverdoc, what's your niche?

Roughly speaking, how many followers (assuming a good follow v followed rate) does it require to hit the social proof sweet spot when the slow and linear increase in followers starts to become exponential?

Quote: (08-16-2016 03:09 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

Quote: (08-16-2016 09:44 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2016 08:00 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2016 06:51 PM)corsega Wrote:  

How many people are you having to follow per hour to get the 75-100 per hour?

Too many. So many it will get you banned. Be realistic, unless you have an ass of Kardashian you are not getting 2400 follows per day

Nobody said anything about getting 2400 a day. I do this for 1 hour and gain 100 followers. Or max for 2 hours per day for 150-200. After I get that many I wait until the next day. Also it's free.

I follow about 400-500 to get 100. Then I unfollow using the app I mentioned.

He said about getting 75-100 per hour.
If you follow 600 people that can bring you 75 followers if you are targeting a good niche. But 75 followers will come gradually within next 3 days, as it takes time for people to check their IGs. To get 75 followers per hour, any given hour, you must follow around 15000 people per daynight preferably from different time zones. I don't see this being possible. May-be I am not understanding something.
@corsega: Could you elaborate on this?

I'm not sure you're right. While I'm pretty active this last week when I start following people on a popular page like National Geo Travel I got exactly 78 followers back in the hour after liking them. Maybe some overlap from likes before but not much because I was inactive for 2 days before that. I followed 600 I know this because of my unfollowers app but you're suggesting 15,000 is required. Our numbers are so far apart someone has to be missing something because I just did this test and those are the numbets I got. Did this all from my phone.

Quote: (08-17-2016 01:22 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  

Quote: (08-16-2016 03:09 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

Quote: (08-16-2016 09:44 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2016 08:00 PM)Vinny Wrote:  

Quote: (08-15-2016 06:51 PM)corsega Wrote:  

How many people are you having to follow per hour to get the 75-100 per hour?

Too many. So many it will get you banned. Be realistic, unless you have an ass of Kardashian you are not getting 2400 follows per day

Nobody said anything about getting 2400 a day. I do this for 1 hour and gain 100 followers. Or max for 2 hours per day for 150-200. After I get that many I wait until the next day. Also it's free.

I follow about 400-500 to get 100. Then I unfollow using the app I mentioned.

He said about getting 75-100 per hour.
If you follow 600 people that can bring you 75 followers if you are targeting a good niche. But 75 followers will come gradually within next 3 days, as it takes time for people to check their IGs. To get 75 followers per hour, any given hour, you must follow around 15000 people per daynight preferably from different time zones. I don't see this being possible. May-be I am not understanding something.
@corsega: Could you elaborate on this?

I'm not sure you're right. While I'm pretty active this last week when I start following people on a popular page like National Geo Travel I got exactly 78 followers back in the hour after liking them. Maybe some overlap from likes before but not much because I was inactive for 2 days before that. I followed 600 I know this because of my unfollowers app but you're suggesting 15,000 is required. Our numbers are so far apart someone has to be missing something because I just did this test and those are the numbets I got. Did this all from my phone.

If you followed 600 in an hour that makes 14400 in 24 hours. So yeah, to get 75 per hour that is the amount you would have to follow.

Quote: (08-17-2016 01:22 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  

I'm not sure you're right. While I'm pretty active this last week when I start following people on a popular page like National Geo Travel I got exactly 78 followers back in the hour after liking them. Maybe some overlap from likes before but not much because I was inactive for 2 days before that. I followed 600 I know this because of my unfollowers app but you're suggesting 15,000 is required. Our numbers are so far apart someone has to be missing something because I just did this test and those are the numbets I got. Did this all from my phone.

You said you followed 600 people, and liked them. I am guessing you liked more than one picture. You can get a temporary ban for doing so much activity in 1 hour.

But not everything is written in stone. Maybe you have old account and it is overlooked. Maybe you have awesome value that fits you niche and that brings you good return follows.

Anyways good for you.
Do you mind sharing any tips?

Quote: (08-05-2016 02:30 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Quote: (08-05-2016 10:24 AM)456 Wrote:  

IG makes me feel sick to my stomach. I'm all about real life and in-person, and hate fronting online. I've tried to compile some common objections to why guys don't want to get on IG.

I realize I'll come off hater-ish and lame for this, and I know that the Sexual Market Place cares not for such objections, and IG value won't be easy to come by. Apologies in advance.

But for all the other guys thinking the same thing, maybe it will be beneficial if you can address how to overcome the following:

Constant focus on photo-opps during other activities:
a) selfies, which I dislike taking

b) shots of interesting stuff, which I take anyway for personal use, but only once in a while

c) shots of me, which means now I have to coordinate with others to take the shot


Care not to "blow the spot":
a) Pictures of what I'm doing, if not a "latergram", mean I have to worry about who I told "ehh not going out tonight" seeing my action shots.

b) Pictures that could let girls see you with the wrong other girl -- jealousy / pre-selection aside, there still remains a need for discretion at times

c) I think this even applies with a private instagram, since followers can still see it. I realize FB has the same issues, but I'm not using FB to prop up my vibe or meet women.


Getting caught in the "thirst cycle":
a) Even the minimum engagement necessary to grow followers involves Liking and Commenting and turning into yet another faceless male orbiter, even if these actions are solely taken to grow the IG account.

b) Time spent planning how to strategically deploy said likes and comments.


FOMO-accelerant:
a) Seeing more and more of people straining and flexing to portray the best, most exciting stuff constantly -- silly as it may be, exposure to this is depressing. I have plenty of fun, but when I'm relaxing easy, I don't want everyone else's amazing evening thrown in my face.


I'm running out of steam here -- is there any way to mitigate the above, or am I just a luddite curmudgeon?

I'm in this same boat. Do you have to have a sort of predisposition to be able to use IG effectively?

Yes, and unfortunately it's the kind of predisposition that frequently makes people uninterested in female company altogether.


Sorry Ragnar and Vinny, I had to do it! And great thread BTW.

Why am I getting some strange vibe of competition on here? Dudes on here should be completely transparent with their settings and what's working for them... if you're worried about lurkers then just ask to move the thread to the private forum.

There's how many hundred million users on IG? We should have a mentality of abundance -- No need to brag or keep things to yourself (scarcity mentality), plenty to go around.

Do you guys have your RL profile mixed with your "game profile" or do you keep real friends away from your profile?

One thing I notice is there's an "activity" tab in the app which shows what people are doing - i.e. what they liked and who they followed. I'm not sure if people check this but if they do I'm afraid all this activity will make you look a bit beggy - xxx like 300 photos, xxx followed yyy and 759 others etc. Then you're kinda busted because it's obvious what your doing.

Quote: (08-17-2016 03:05 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

Why am I getting some strange vibe of competition on here? Dudes on here should be completely transparent with their settings and what's working for them... if you're worried about lurkers then just ask to move the thread to the private forum.

There's how many hundred million users on IG? We should have a mentality of abundance -- No need to brag or keep things to yourself (scarcity mentality), plenty to go around.

Maybe because that's all in your head. Or you are competing, but only with yourself lol.

My niche (by hashtag) is: long hair, natural hair, blackmenstyles, art and photography These are filled up with nothing but women liking my pics all day long. I try to saturate my profile by having 2 artsy cool pics and one selfie that way I'm not coming off too show offish. I'd say half the people who follow me like at least 3-5 of my pics. I chose these niches because I hit it off well with these type of women in real life so took a gamble that these same chicks on IG would like my pics. Seems to be working so far.

-CD

Quote: (08-17-2016 03:05 PM)NomadofEU Wrote:  

Why am I getting some strange vibe of competition on here? Dudes on here should be completely transparent with their settings and what's working for them... if you're worried about lurkers then just ask to move the thread to the private forum.

There's how many hundred million users on IG? We should have a mentality of abundance -- No need to brag or keep things to yourself (scarcity mentality), plenty to go around.

Seconded, this thread is TOO good. One of your resident experts needs to start a new one in the private forum for the REAL dirt.

My follower count has just come to 5000 mark. In last 2 days I have noticed that I am getting around 120-130 return follows, which is very good as normally it was below 100.
I think as you get more followers more people will actually follow you back due to your perceived value. Or may it be that in my five last posts I am only wearing a t-shirt in one
@NomadOfEU: I don't share my niche not because I am greedy, but because it would jeopardize my privacy. I am not sharing it here or in private forum, I might share with a forum member I met personally.

@DarkTriad: Are you trying to say using instagram will make us gay? Don't be silly

Another tip: have an excel sheet where you keep track of the number of new followers and the follow-back ratio per day. Three days ago I updated my excel sheet and noticed that in the past week I only gained about 50-70 new followers per day. My guess was that the source sites I am using were not yielding me the same results any more, so I replaced 3-4 of those sites with other source sites that I haven't used for months. The result was 150-170 new followers per day for the past 3 days.

Quote: (08-17-2016 07:45 PM)spizzy Wrote:  

Do you guys have your RL profile mixed with your "game profile" or do you keep real friends away from your profile?

One thing I notice is there's an "activity" tab in the app which shows what people are doing - i.e. what they liked and who they followed. I'm not sure if people check this but if they do I'm afraid all this activity will make you look a bit beggy - xxx like 300 photos, xxx followed yyy and 759 others etc. Then you're kinda busted because it's obvious what your doing.

I strictly seperate real friends and Instagram. I only have 1-2 real good friends who know about my Instagram pages. For the rest of my friends I am using Facebook, but I barely post anything on Facebook.

Good question about the activity tab. I am not using it at all, so I never really thought about it until now. But I wouldn't worry about it. If someone doesn't like that I am mass-liking and mass-following, then they are free to unfollow me and as none of my friends or family has my IG, I couldn't care less.

If you game girls trough instagram, arent they eventually going to become "friends"? I have a few chicks that ive banged in the past that are following me. Now id just consider them as friends

Quote: (08-18-2016 04:22 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  

Another tip: have an excel sheet where you keep track of the number of new followers and the follow-back ratio per day. Three days ago I updated my excel sheet and noticed that in the past week I only gained about 50-70 new followers per day. My guess was that the source sites I am using were not yielding me the same results any more, so I replaced 3-4 of those sites with other source sites that I haven't used for months. The result was 150-170 new followers per day for the past 3 days.

That is a good idea. I was thinking to start using 1 source site at a time, to quickly gauge when it gets bad and change. Because than you know for sure. Quite a few times I got my growth slow because one of the sites acquired fake followers and they were obviously not following me back

On another hand it would require a bit more monitoring...

What do you guys mean by "source site"?

Just took the plunge and plopped down $9.99 for 30 days of Instagress. I'm running it on fast and getting about 35 followers a day doing likes, follows, and unfollows (no comments) pulling from about 15 hashtags related to my fitness niche.

Ten bucks isn't that bad of a price for getting 1000 new followers in a month, seeing as I'm currently at about 580.

Quote: (08-18-2016 07:10 PM)corsega Wrote:  

What do you guys mean by "source site"?

Just took the plunge and plopped down $9.99 for 30 days of Instagress. I'm running it on fast and getting about 35 followers a day doing likes, follows, and unfollows (no comments) pulling from about 15 hashtags related to my fitness niche.

Ten bucks isn't that bad of a price for getting 1000 new followers in a month, seeing as I'm currently at about 580.

Source site is a user who's followers you are stealing (not actually stealing more of a copying without permission)
If you read the datasheet more carefully you can find this in the glossary.

Quote: (08-18-2016 07:10 PM)corsega Wrote:  

What do you guys mean by "source site"?

Just took the plunge and plopped down $9.99 for 30 days of Instagress. I'm running it on fast and getting about 35 followers a day doing likes, follows, and unfollows (no comments) pulling from about 15 hashtags related to my fitness niche.

Ten bucks isn't that bad of a price for getting 1000 new followers in a month, seeing as I'm currently at about 580.

Can you follow/ like by gender on Instagress?