http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/watchdo...the-board/

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Violence in Chicago again is making national news, with the nine people killed Monday marking the city’s highest single-day toll of shooting deaths in years.

But the Chicago Police Department and City Hall are grappling with more than a rise in shootings and killings. Citywide, other violent crimes — sexual assaults, robberies and aggravated batteries — also are up this year compared with year-to-date totals for the same period in 2015.

Some parts of the city also are facing particular issues with certain types of violent crimes — robberies on the far North Side, for one, and sexual assaults in lakefront police districts, a Chicago Sun-Times analysis of police department crime data found.

till, the year-to-year rise in crime citywide and this latest bloody week — which saw 84 people shot, 19 of them killed as of Friday — are signs that criminals have become emboldened as cops “stand down” amid heightened attention over the police shootings of Laquan McDonald, Paul O’Neal and other young, black men, says Eugene O’Donnell, a professor of police studies at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

There you go.

I think cops in US shoud do this all over for the rest of the year until Trump is elected. Show the people of the US what happens if you don't police these neighborhoods.

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:56 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/watchdo...the-board/

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Violence in Chicago again is making national news, with the nine people killed Monday marking the city’s highest single-day toll of shooting deaths in years.

But the Chicago Police Department and City Hall are grappling with more than a rise in shootings and killings. Citywide, other violent crimes — sexual assaults, robberies and aggravated batteries — also are up this year compared with year-to-date totals for the same period in 2015.

Some parts of the city also are facing particular issues with certain types of violent crimes — robberies on the far North Side, for one, and sexual assaults in lakefront police districts, a Chicago Sun-Times analysis of police department crime data found.

till, the year-to-year rise in crime citywide and this latest bloody week — which saw 84 people shot, 19 of them killed as of Friday — are signs that criminals have become emboldened as cops “stand down” amid heightened attention over the police shootings of Laquan McDonald, Paul O’Neal and other young, black men, says Eugene O’Donnell, a professor of police studies at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

There you go.

I think cops in US shoud do this all over for the rest of the year until Trump is elected. Show the people of the US what happens if you don't police these neighborhoods.

I agree, black lives matter should be sceded control of some of these areas so they can show the rest of the country how changing the skin color of public servants magically will fix everything. They can even ask south africa how that worked out for them.

I think Baltimore has seen a similar withdrawal of policing.

I know many a CPD and a couple I served with overseas. It's a shame what's happening, but it will only get worse. The vets I know had to sue to get on the force because they were unfairly discriminated against. They had a couple things going against them:

I) Combat vets

II) White

The city should be honored that veterans want to be a part of their police force, but they're not. You can guess the candidates the city wants to join their ranks: women, illterate, minorities, trans xyz.

Throw any fitness or aptitude standards right out the window -as long as you're not a white male. I've heard it time and again about the women and minority crowd not being able to complete the 2 or 3 mile run in the allocated time but still receiving a passing grade. But you know damn well they're watching Timmy O'leary from the far southside like a hawk. The city is also turning a blind eye to anyone with backgrounds in their record, and they either reduced or did away completely with the application fee.

It's literally bizarro world.

It's only going to get a whole lot worse once Kim Foxx takes over as States Attorney. We already baby these criminals and thugs enough, I can only imagine what is going to come once she's in office.

As for fiscal year '16, winter cannot get here fast enough for the top cops and ((Rahm))! And stay fetal is the name of the new game.

4 replies, 1800 views, this forum has taken off, must be a ton of lurkers. I'd be interested to see Roosh analytics for the forum, I suspect the traffic is way up.

Quote: (08-14-2016 03:38 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

4 replies, 1800 views, this forum has taken off, must be a ton of lurkers. I'd be interested to see Roosh analytics for the forum, I suspect the traffic is way up.

That's probably due to the whole meet-up saga, even the newspapers here in Belgium wrote about Roosh.

When the cat is away the mice will play.

Quote: (08-14-2016 03:40 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 03:38 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

4 replies, 1800 views, this forum has taken off, must be a ton of lurkers. I'd be interested to see Roosh analytics for the forum, I suspect the traffic is way up.

That's probably due to the whole meet-up saga, even the newspapers here in Belgium wrote about Roosh.

It's just hard to care enough to comment on this BS anymore. Basically all the normal guys are in agreement that Hillary, Barry, Rhahm, Merkel and the rest are doing their best to destroy civilized society, and the weird snowflakes that defend this trash don't come around to the politics side anymore.

84 shot, but only nineteen killed?

The ems, fire, and emergency room people must still be working.

I'm going the other way than you guys and saying cops that "stand down" over bullshit are lazy. They took an oath, just like the other people who are still doing their jobs. Imagine if the er doctor did the same thing?

And I love the "my buddy couldn't get a job because he's white" bullshit. You go ahead and keep thinking that.

Police are doing things incorrectly, that's the problem.

Aloha!

You think the ER doc and the cop face the same risk?...who brought that motherfucker to the ER in the first place? And that a street cop gets paid what an ER doc, or ANY doc, gets paid?

SMH.

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:14 PM)Kona Wrote:  

84 shot, but only nineteen killed?

The ems, fire, and emergency room people must still be working.

I'm going the other way than you guys and saying cops that "stand down" over bullshit are lazy. They took an oath, just like the other people who are still doing their jobs. Imagine if the er doctor did the same thing?

And I love the "my buddy couldn't get a job because he's white" bullshit. You go ahead and keep thinking that.

Police are doing things incorrectly, that's the problem.

Aloha!

You're smoking too much ganja out on the island Kona.

My EMT trainer was a South side of Chicago paramedic for years. He had 25 calls a shift often.

He became a depressed alcoholic, gained weight, and lost his wife and pretty much his family due to what he had to experience.

There is a line where it isn't worth saving the pack of wolves.

You know not what you speak.

These aren't black ops mercenaries making bank that are often in predator mode instead of being prey to ambushes. Paramedics often get paid $16 / hour with shit benefits. Cops and firemen get paid better, it isn't worth guaranteed PTSD and over vigilance syndrome that destroys all your relationships.

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:18 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  

who brought that motherfucker to the ER in the first place? And that a street cop gets paid what an ER doc, or ANY doc, gets paid?

SMH

Fire or ems people brought them to the er.

They also do not make as much as er docs.

Aloha!

My parents live on Chicago's far north side, which used to be one of the safest areas of the city. From what I've been hearing is they are pulling police from that district to put police in higher crime areas, which leaves a bare bones force by my folks, so crime is going up there some.

I live along the lake on the north side, and while it's normal pretty safe there is still a good amount of crimes and shootings. I haven't heard any news of sexual assaults on the lake front, but most of the time it's kept quiet. I'm surprised that the feminists I know from the bar aren't squaking about it.....

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:14 PM)Kona Wrote:  

I'm going the other way than you guys and saying cops that "stand down" over bullshit are lazy. They took an oath, just like the other people who are still doing their jobs.

What is their oath exactly? To obey the governor yes? And they tell them to stand down. So they do.

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:14 PM)Kona Wrote:  

I'm going the other way than you guys and saying cops that "stand down" over bullshit are lazy. They took an oath, just like the other people who are still doing their jobs. Imagine if the er doctor did the same thing?

Hell no.

Cops are unleashing Hell right now in Chicago by doing ... nothing. BLM protested the cops and the cops gave BLM their cite back. Look at it now! It's time to play the fiddle while Chicago burns. Let them eat their cake they wanted. And for the rest of you BLM useful idiots, it's coming to your city next. Evolution is weeding out the weak. Toodles!

Related: get ready for the rage against VoxDay on his title - https://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/08/are-...ombs.html?

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:25 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:14 PM)Kona Wrote:  

84 shot, but only nineteen killed?

The ems, fire, and emergency room people must still be working.

I'm going the other way than you guys and saying cops that "stand down" over bullshit are lazy. They took an oath, just like the other people who are still doing their jobs. Imagine if the er doctor did the same thing?

And I love the "my buddy couldn't get a job because he's white" bullshit. You go ahead and keep thinking that.

Police are doing things incorrectly, that's the problem.

Aloha!

You're smoking too much ganja out on the island Kona.

My EMT trainer was a South side of Chicago paramedic for years. He had 25 calls a shift often.

He became a depressed alcoholic, gained weight, and lost his wife and pretty much his family due to what he had to experience.

There is a line where it isn't worth saving the pack of wolves.

You know not what you speak.

These aren't black ops mercenaries making bank that are often in predator mode instead of being prey to ambushes. Paramedics often get paid $16 / hour with shit benefits. Cops and firemen get paid better, it isn't worth guaranteed PTSD and over vigilance syndrome that destroys all your relationships.

I don't think that what I'm smoking is relevant.

I just wrote that if 84 people were shot, yet only 19 died, the ems, fire, and emergency medical people are doing a fantastic job.

They don't get the opportunity to "stand down" like the cops do.

It is complete bullshit for cops to back off and do nothing. They are making it way harder for the paramedics and whatnot by doing that.

I just hate the all around holier than thou attitude policing has taken up.

Aloha!

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:18 PM)Kona Wrote:  

I just hate the all around holier than thou attitude policing has taken up.

Aloha!

There is no attitude from the cops. They are being ordered to stand down. Why you ignoring me bro?

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:18 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:25 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:14 PM)Kona Wrote:  

84 shot, but only nineteen killed?

The ems, fire, and emergency room people must still be working.

I'm going the other way than you guys and saying cops that "stand down" over bullshit are lazy. They took an oath, just like the other people who are still doing their jobs. Imagine if the er doctor did the same thing?

And I love the "my buddy couldn't get a job because he's white" bullshit. You go ahead and keep thinking that.

Police are doing things incorrectly, that's the problem.

Aloha!

You're smoking too much ganja out on the island Kona.

My EMT trainer was a South side of Chicago paramedic for years. He had 25 calls a shift often.

He became a depressed alcoholic, gained weight, and lost his wife and pretty much his family due to what he had to experience.

There is a line where it isn't worth saving the pack of wolves.

You know not what you speak.

These aren't black ops mercenaries making bank that are often in predator mode instead of being prey to ambushes. Paramedics often get paid $16 / hour with shit benefits. Cops and firemen get paid better, it isn't worth guaranteed PTSD and over vigilance syndrome that destroys all your relationships.

I don't think that what I'm smoking is relevant.

I just wrote that if 84 people were shot, yet only 19 died, the ems, fire, and emergency medical people are doing a fantastic job.

They don't get the opportunity to "stand down" like the cops do.

It is complete bullshit for cops to back off and do nothing. They are making it way harder for the paramedics and whatnot by doing that.

I just hate the all around holier than thou attitude policing has taken up.

Aloha!

Would you still keep doing your dangerous job if you kept on being shitted on over and over? That would be the equivalent of wifing up a fat tatood up chick you got a kid with because... it's the right thing to do. F**k that, if someone doesn't appreciate your work, then bounce...that goes for cops too. How you can compare what cops are going through to EMT workers, nurses and doctors in this one is beyond me!

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:23 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:18 PM)Kona Wrote:  

I just hate the all around holier than thou attitude policing has taken up.

Aloha!

There is no attitude from the cops. They are being ordered to stand down. Why you ignoring me bro?

I'm not ignoring you I just didn't see that.

So the governor told cops to do less or something?

All I read in that article was the police union guy saying cops are being les proactive because they fear being labeled racist.

That is stupid. Its the same as when the cops say " well black people shoot each other all the time, where's the outrage over that." As though the ones they shoot aren't that important.

Aloha!

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All I read in that article was the police union guy saying cops are being les proactive because they fear being labeled racist.

Don't believe anything the media says. Cops who also shoot non-White criminals can also lose their jobs or face criminal charges in some of these liberal states.

The cops would love to steamroll these punks, and could do so easily, but "diversity" politics are in the way.

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:38 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:18 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:25 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:14 PM)Kona Wrote:  

84 shot, but only nineteen killed?

The ems, fire, and emergency room people must still be working.

I'm going the other way than you guys and saying cops that "stand down" over bullshit are lazy. They took an oath, just like the other people who are still doing their jobs. Imagine if the er doctor did the same thing?

And I love the "my buddy couldn't get a job because he's white" bullshit. You go ahead and keep thinking that.

Police are doing things incorrectly, that's the problem.

Aloha!

You're smoking too much ganja out on the island Kona.

My EMT trainer was a South side of Chicago paramedic for years. He had 25 calls a shift often.

He became a depressed alcoholic, gained weight, and lost his wife and pretty much his family due to what he had to experience.

There is a line where it isn't worth saving the pack of wolves.

You know not what you speak.

These aren't black ops mercenaries making bank that are often in predator mode instead of being prey to ambushes. Paramedics often get paid $16 / hour with shit benefits. Cops and firemen get paid better, it isn't worth guaranteed PTSD and over vigilance syndrome that destroys all your relationships.

I don't think that what I'm smoking is relevant.

I just wrote that if 84 people were shot, yet only 19 died, the ems, fire, and emergency medical people are doing a fantastic job.

They don't get the opportunity to "stand down" like the cops do.

It is complete bullshit for cops to back off and do nothing. They are making it way harder for the paramedics and whatnot by doing that.

I just hate the all around holier than thou attitude policing has taken up.

Aloha!

Would you still keep doing your dangerous job if you kept on being shitted on over and over? That would be the equivalent of wifing up a fat tatood up chick you got a kid with because... it's the right thing to do. F**k that, if someone doesn't appreciate your work, then bounce...that goes for cops too. How you can compare what cops are going through to EMT workers, nurses and doctors in this one is beyond me!

I would not keep doing my dangerousjob at all... I WOULD QUIT!

There's no one making these guys stay cops. Quit. Get somebody that gives a shit to do their jobs.

Don't just stay acop and do a shitty job. That helps no one.

Aloha!

Quote: (08-14-2016 05:58 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 04:14 PM)Kona Wrote:  

I'm going the other way than you guys and saying cops that "stand down" over bullshit are lazy. They took an oath, just like the other people who are still doing their jobs.

What is their oath exactly? To obey the governor yes? And they tell them to stand down. So they do.

I can't find anywhere that says the governor ordered any type of stand down in Illinois, except for at a trump rally.

All I find is cops having shitty attitudes and not doing as much.

Aloha!

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:50 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:38 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

Would you still keep doing your dangerous job if you kept on being shitted on over and over? That would be the equivalent of wifing up a fat tatood up chick you got a kid with because... it's the right thing to do. F**k that, if someone doesn't appreciate your work, then bounce...that goes for cops too. How you can compare what cops are going through to EMT workers, nurses and doctors in this one is beyond me!

I would not keep doing my dangerousjob at all... I WOULD QUIT!

There's no one making these guys stay cops. Quit. Get somebody that gives a shit to do their jobs.

Don't just stay acop and do a shitty job. That helps no one.

Aloha!

You would quit that 60-80k a year gig... over people who disrespect & don't care about you...to do what? C'mon man, I'm a logical guy, but your point here is hard to understand. If I was a cop, I would sit and watch those bullets fly until they would beg for my presence back. Make em learn a lesson! Even if there's a few bad cops, don't throw the entire lot in the water.

Quote: (08-14-2016 07:03 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:50 PM)Kona Wrote:  

Quote: (08-14-2016 06:38 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

Would you still keep doing your dangerous job if you kept on being shitted on over and over? That would be the equivalent of wifing up a fat tatood up chick you got a kid with because... it's the right thing to do. F**k that, if someone doesn't appreciate your work, then bounce...that goes for cops too. How you can compare what cops are going through to EMT workers, nurses and doctors in this one is beyond me!

I would not keep doing my dangerousjob at all... I WOULD QUIT!

There's no one making these guys stay cops. Quit. Get somebody that gives a shit to do their jobs.

Don't just stay acop and do a shitty job. That helps no one.

Aloha!

You would quit that 60-80k a year gig... over people who disrespect & don't care about you...to do what? C'mon man, I'm a logical guy, but your point here is hard to understand. If I was a cop, I would sit and watch those bullets fly until they would beg for my presence back. Make em learn a lesson! Even if there's a few bad cops, don't throw the entire lot in the water.

Now I'm confused.

Your post I replied to said "f**k that, if someone doest appreciate your work, then bounce.... E same goes for cops"

I then agree with you.

You then totally contradict your first statement with the 60 to 80k remark.

I'm a logical guy, but all points here are hard to understand... Therefore I'm out of this one.

Aloha!