Quote: (03-04-2016 09:11 AM)Robert Plant Wrote:  

The Anglo countries have 3 main issues as I see it:

-A brand of feminism that says men are not important to a woman's happiness and men should be attracted to women even if they are fat. Worse still, Anglo women often believe men are inferior and therefore are not worthy of respect. I personally try to treat everyone with respect and have no problem with (non-socially engineered) equality but find the Anglo version of feminism really F-ed up.

-Online dating has turned a huge number of women into hypergamey machines. Online an 8 guy is usually stuck dating 6s. My solution, use online as a tool but also approach women during the day and at night.

-Puritanical hangups about sex and guilt are deeply ingrained in women's sub and unconscious minds. The means that even when protestant-background women jump into bed with you their anti slut defenses are likely to kick in later. This applies to girls who aren't religious too, as long as their background is protestant Christian. Since I started game about a year and a half ago, I have been with 3 Muslims, 6 Buddhists, several Jews, a ton of "Catholics", a few former protestant atheists/agnostics and 0 active protestant Christians, not that I haven't tried with the Christians. With the exception of one of Jewish women, the only ones who have freaked out about sex (usually after a really passionate night) are the former protestants.

On the other hand, if you as a guy are good and bed and are free sexual hangups, you differentiate yourself from most of the guys in the Anglosphere.

My solution to the Anglosphere, find foreign born and 1st generation woman, try to have multiple long term relationships and Always be Closing.

Robert Plant can handle the terrain

I actually love british girls/women, it's the nationality i've got laid with the most, but i'm talking mostly of nightgame, never got anything from daygame.

^
I'm sure a lot of UK guys would like to know how you did that. Please do tell what you do that's proven to be succesfull.

Quote: (03-07-2016 06:38 AM)Stimulus Wrote:  

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I'm sure a lot of UK guys would like to know how you did that. Please do tell what you do that's proven to be succesfull.

Well, that i love british girls/women it's absolutely bullshit, i actually hate almost everything about them, their mentality, their attitude, but what i meant is that at night i find them easy to fuck. Probably is cause they care a lot about looks, i am tall, muscular, dark mediterranean looking guy, and it seems they go crazy for that, in addition i think being foreigner made it easier to get ons, the exotic factor and the fact they may feel less judged helped me. And being good looking didn't help me with other nationalities as much as it did with english (maybe only in the other anglosphere countries women care about looks that much). Anyway my goal when going out is to put my dick in a wet pussy, so as long as she is acceptable and makes my dick hard i am happy to fuck, i was not fucking constantly super models, not at all.

Quote: (03-07-2016 11:56 AM)thecrazy Wrote:  

Quote: (03-07-2016 06:38 AM)Stimulus Wrote:  

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I'm sure a lot of UK guys would like to know how you did that. Please do tell what you do that's proven to be succesfull.

Well, that i love british girls/women it's absolutely bullshit, i actually hate almost everything about them, their mentality, their attitude, but what i meant is that at night i find them easy to fuck. Probably is cause they care a lot about looks, i am tall, muscular, dark mediterranean looking guy, and it seems they go crazy for that, in addition i think being foreigner made it easier to get ons, the exotic factor and the fact they may feel less judged helped me. And being good looking didn't help me with other nationalities as much as it did with english (maybe only in the other anglosphere countries women care about looks that much). Anyway my goal when going out is to put my dick in a wet pussy, so as long as she is acceptable and makes my dick hard i am happy to fuck, i was not fucking constantly super models, not at all.

Well, this is precisely what I wished to draw attention in my OP, the transactionality of women in the Anglosphere. With English women it is largely a binary proposition in terms of how a woman will behave around you: If you pass her hypergamy threshold you will be rewarded royally and without fuss. If, however, you don't pass this bar, you will be labelled a "creep" and be treat largely like a tramp off the street, including the full bitchshield treatment of averting her gaze away from you at all times and generally pretending that you don't even exist. In fact, the concept of the hypergamy bar - or, just "the bar" for brevity here - is crucial to understanding Anglo women in this regard, I believe, since it explains the almost Jekyll and Hyde-type behaviour they exhibit towards men, depending solely upon whether or not the man in her presence gives her the tingles. The problem here, though, is that bar is placed significantly higher than in most other countries, even in other Western countries, such that only a relatively small percentage of guys can clear it. It's otherwise known as the Pareto Principle, whereby 80% of the women are only interested in 20% of the men.

Even the decision to confer a single obvious glance in a man's direction and make eye-contact with him is determined by this principle - that is how far the concept of transactionality runs with women in the Anglosphere. In contrast, I always found that women from other European states, such as Germany, would at least give you the time of day and acknowledge your existence and converse with you to some extent, even if they were not interested in hooking up.

Incidentally, I notice that you're Italian. How would you compare Italian women with British women? And where are you based in the UK, by the way, Crazy?

I'm in Ireland and I'd consider myself pretty okay looking. I'm late 30s, 6ft and toned (but not bulked), with a pretty decent fashion sense and good bone structure. My fashion by the way is a bazillion times better than the average joe here, which is 70% of the battle. But that wouldn't be difficult considering guys here are wearing askew baseball caps and neon tracksuits.

When I go out I'd say I get eye contact at least a few times on average from random women. The majority don't look, but depending on how long I'm out for, I'll at least get one piece of eye contact (eye contact that lasts a fraction longer than it should) or a girl making repeated eye contact with me, as what happened in line at a coffee joint the other day. Some days I get a lot of it, some days none.

Heck, sometimes I go through spells where I get nothing, nada, zip. Then it starts up again. No idea why. All ages, but young blondes and MILFS (plus 40) tend to like me. If they look and hold it, they're always shy about it.

If I sit in "perch" positions in coffee shops by the window, I'm liable to get eye fucked by passing women on the street outside.

To reiterate, the majority of women aren't looking at me, and the hottest of the hot (9s and 10s) and those who believe themselves to be 9s and 10s, are careful to avoid any eye contact at all times. But if I look for it, on a good day I can at least get some for 5s, 6s, 7s.

This of course is all academic until you open them.

Quote: (03-07-2016 01:09 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

Well, this is precisely what I wished to draw attention in my OP, the transactionality of women in the Anglosphere. With English women it is largely a binary proposition in terms of how a woman will behave around you: If you pass her hypergamy threshold you will be rewarded royally and without fuss. If, however, you don't pass this bar, you will be labelled a "creep" and be treat largely like a tramp off the street, including the full bitchshield treatment of averting her gaze away from you at all times and generally pretending that you don't even exist. In fact, the concept of the hypergamy bar - or, just "the bar" for brevity here - is crucial to understanding Anglo women in this regard, I believe, since it explains the almost Jekyll and Hyde-type behaviour they exhibit towards men, depending solely upon whether or not the man in her presence gives her the tingles. The problem here, though, is that bar is placed significantly higher than in most other countries, even in other Western countries, such that only a relatively small percentage of guys can clear it. It's otherwise known as the Pareto Principle, whereby 80% of the women are only interested in 20% of the men.

Even the decision to confer a single obvious glance in a man's direction and make eye-contact with him is determined by this principle - that is how far the concept of transactionality runs with women in the Anglosphere. In contrast, I always found that women from other European states, such as Germany, would at least give you the time of day and acknowledge your existence and converse with you to some extent, even if they were not interested in hooking up.

Incidentally, I notice that you're Italian. How would you compare Italian women with British women? And where are you based in the UK, by the way, Crazy?

Exactly, british women feel they're all entitled to high quality dick, even if they are barely decent, and my experience says that they all get what they want, at night, unless she weighs 200 kgs, a girl in the uk can fuck a man better than her in 5 mins if she wants. I am not in the uk anymore, i used to stay in london (and even in london the ones i had more success with were british), but i've been almost anywhere in britain, i think i read you're from middlesbrough, am i right? Never been there, the closest places i've been are newcastle and york, i'd say. Differences between italian and british? Well first of all i am from the south, so maybe in the north is different, then the thing i miss most about england is that there every friday or saturday night i had real chances of banging a girl from a bar or club, not that it happened every night, not at all, but at least there were chances, i could go out with that goal and try luck, as that is the style of game i like and i am better at. Here this doesn't happened or rather never happened to me or anyone i know, we don't have the ons culture, then here social proof and status counts a lot and mine is not very high, they want to know everything about you before sex, here most girls look for a serious relationship or even if they just want an adventure they act as if they were looking for a relationship and they expect the man does the same. In few words girls here act much less slutty and i found that i do good with sluts.

I met a kid from Middlesborough, he was working in Toronto and simply loved it. He had no desire to return to the UK, claimed Toronto was better for gaming girls and he could make money.

Every Anglo woman thinks she deserves the best looking man with money and a six pack. The best game is simply to ignore them and look down at them like they are nothing.

Why worry about eye contact, if you don't find them attractive? If you have high value, you don't care about low value women. If you don't have high value then fake it until you make it.

You cannot fix the women, so fix yourself instead.

These women respond to narcisstic men and douche bags. They don't respond to nice guys and compliments.

So you adapt or you die.

Quote: (03-08-2016 01:25 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

I met a kid from Middlesborough, he was working in Toronto and simply loved it. He had no desire to return to the UK, claimed Toronto was better for gaming girls and he could make money.

Every Anglo woman thinks she deserves the best looking man with money and a six pack. The best game is simply to ignore them and look down at them like they are nothing.

Why worry about eye contact, if you don't find them attractive? If you have high value, you don't care about low value women. If you don't have high value then fake it until you make it.

You cannot fix the women, so fix yourself instead.

These women respond to narcisstic men and douche bags. They don't respond to nice guys and compliments.

So you adapt or you die.

I hear you, Rudebwoy. That somebody actually prefers the women in Toronto of all places to his hometown gives you an idea of the type of women I'm talking about in my locality. Of course, there are some diamonds here, too - like anywhere, but if they're relationship material, they are almost certainly going to be in a relationship in my experience and so all a guy is left with on the dating market is nearly always the deludedly narcissistic types who are still holding out for a celebrity or, at the very least, a rich guy who will keep them in the lifestyle to which they feel they are owed simply by dint of having a vagina.

You're right about not giving two flying fucks about eye contact, but my point with that was more about determining that I even pass this test with many of them, it's just the fact that I can't abide their obnoxiously entitled and vapid personalities; I simply cannot gel with them, try as hard as I might.

Your point about my needing to leave, I do fully accept, it's just a question of deciding on the locality, rustling up some work there and taking the plunge.

The kid had a "accent", so he would be considered exotic here. He also worked out and had a decent frame. Toronto has talent, the problem is that they are time consuming to deal with.

Who cares what they want. The question is what do you want? The whole notion of connecting with them and to gel with them should not cross your mind.

You come across as a nice guy, being posh translates to being soft to me. I don't know you personally, so don't take what I say as a insult.

You have been in a long relationship, the dating market has changed big time in the last 10 years.

I have to admit as a Pole living in the UK that this country is totally messed up. Under supply of good looking women created sick situation where women feel entitled to everything. My overweight flatmate that is weak 5 can easily pull guy that is 7. That being said I think it is English men fault as their desperation and shit compliment overblown women's egos. Once I finish my degree I'm going back to Poland. Also the political correctness in this country is totally out of any logic.

Quote: (02-18-2016 06:37 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

One salient characteristic of UK women that my own practice of game has recently given me occasion to reflect on is their wholly transactional mindset when interacting with men.*snip*

Wow, you just described russian women.

Quote: (03-10-2016 10:39 PM)snacky20 Wrote:  

I have to admit as a Pole living in the UK that this country is totally messed up. Under supply of good looking women created sick situation where women feel entitled to everything. My overweight flatmate that is weak 5 can easily pull guy that is 7. That being said I think it is English men fault as their desperation and shit compliment overblown women's egos. Once I finish my degree I'm going back to Poland. Also the political correctness in this country is totally out of any logic.

You know, I have been itching to hear from guys who grew up in central Europe, but who later moved to the UK, in terms of how British women compare with those back in Poland, Hungary, et.c. I can only imagine how it must come like a bucket of freezing over their heads to realize how much guys have to date down here to get even a McDonald's standard lay with an entitled, overbearing and, above all, overweight native.

Do you know, incidentally, any other central/east European guys who have made the same decision to return because of the women here?

Quote: (03-10-2016 10:39 PM)snacky20 Wrote:  

Also the political correctness in this country is totally out of any logic.

What is exactly "political correctness"?

British guys are the most desired on the planet. If you go to mainland Europe, Germany, France or far East Asia; let alone Eastern Europe you can see. Really even in places like Canada and the United States which are apparently meant to be feminist cesspools and difficult places for normal men over to get just average ladies. The British men do fine or even very well. It always makes me laugh seeing how surprised these British men are when they see their true sexual market value in oversea countries.
My main point to any in the U.K who seems to be down about his women situation. Is really for them to try and meet girls overseas and either bring them over or simply dedicate a special time of the year to getting his end away in a foreign country.

However British guys have major internal 'game' issues. Their frame is very weak because its how they were raised back in the motherland. Even guys who are now expats and have good looks, money and not failing to mention some understanding of how the 'red pill' world works, still end up with the women which local men would usually stay away from. Perhaps not because these women are bad looking but more because they show up red flag signs, which British guys are socialised to accept.

For me personally it was really liberating to see how men behaved towards and viewed women in the East. Getting notch counts and other such related things were simply not priorities for these guys. In some ways the PUA culture if you will, which you see in colleges and universities everywhere now. Does a great deal to pedestal women and validate the girls who have one night stands and all sorts of other similar things.

This is something which I have been discussing with people a long time ago, but I always enjoy refreshing my mind to remember this. Simply having an understanding of what the reality is, rather than this whole kind of 'dog chasing their own tail' scenario to quote the 'way of the superior man' in which men are constantly trying to chasing female beauty as some kind of communion with god. Is really a huge joke on them, unfortuanately some men need to spend time in a foreign country to realise this and not feel so bad.

Quote: (03-07-2016 01:09 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

Quote: (03-07-2016 11:56 AM)thecrazy Wrote:  

Quote: (03-07-2016 06:38 AM)Stimulus Wrote:  

^
I'm sure a lot of UK guys would like to know how you did that. Please do tell what you do that's proven to be succesfull.

Well, that i love british girls/women it's absolutely bullshit, i actually hate almost everything about them, their mentality, their attitude, but what i meant is that at night i find them easy to fuck. Probably is cause they care a lot about looks, i am tall, muscular, dark mediterranean looking guy, and it seems they go crazy for that, in addition i think being foreigner made it easier to get ons, the exotic factor and the fact they may feel less judged helped me. And being good looking didn't help me with other nationalities as much as it did with english (maybe only in the other anglosphere countries women care about looks that much). Anyway my goal when going out is to put my dick in a wet pussy, so as long as she is acceptable and makes my dick hard i am happy to fuck, i was not fucking constantly super models, not at all.

Well, this is precisely what I wished to draw attention in my OP, the transactionality of women in the Anglosphere. With English women it is largely a binary proposition in terms of how a woman will behave around you: If you pass her hypergamy threshold you will be rewarded royally and without fuss. If, however, you don't pass this bar, you will be labelled a "creep" and be treat largely like a tramp off the street, including the full bitchshield treatment of averting her gaze away from you at all times and generally pretending that you don't even exist. In fact, the concept of the hypergamy bar - or, just "the bar" for brevity here - is crucial to understanding Anglo women in this regard, I believe, since it explains the almost Jekyll and Hyde-type behaviour they exhibit towards men, depending solely upon whether or not the man in her presence gives her the tingles. The problem here, though, is that bar is placed significantly higher than in most other countries, even in other Western countries, such that only a relatively small percentage of guys can clear it. It's otherwise known as the Pareto Principle, whereby 80% of the women are only interested in 20% of the men.

Even the decision to confer a single obvious glance in a man's direction and make eye-contact with him is determined by this principle - that is how far the concept of transactionality runs with women in the Anglosphere. In contrast, I always found that women from other European states, such as Germany, would at least give you the time of day and acknowledge your existence and converse with you to some extent, even if they were not interested in hooking up.

Incidentally, I notice that you're Italian. How would you compare Italian women with British women? And where are you based in the UK, by the way, Crazy?

I absolutely concur that you will get more 'eye roll' type behaviour from English girls than any other nationalities in Europe. It's the sneeriness of them i find so unappealing. Traveled all over and have to say that British women are the most unappealing on the planet. (or at the very least, of the major groups that you would consider, i haven't run game in Mongolia to be fair)

If your willing to put up with bad attitudes, entitlement attitudes and willing to play the girls game for a few hours, then one night stands and short term relationships are not to hard to find in bars and nightclubs. If your looking for something more like a meaningful relationship then it can become tiring putting up with girls that you don't particularly like being around but it depends on your goals and what you want.

The discussion held within this thread really does shed light on the situation in the UK in regards to the dating market and the unbalanced state it is in. Overall, women here have absolutely no desire or motivation to be in shape, healthy, thin, feminine, have domestic knowledge or anything like that because no matter what, there will always be guys willing to fuck them. This is nowhere more apparent than in small town England where the vast and I mean vast majority of the populations worldview doesn't extend beyond twenty miles in each direction. Having grown up in and around such towns it quite sad and unfortunate that I know quite a few women who have been banged by twenty to thirty guys, mainly from their social circle, from going out at night, and from apps like tinder. These women who I refer to are around the ages of nineteen or twenty. I personally know a few of the guys who have fucked them and know of many more who have.

Anyway gentlemen, I read an unfortunate article that showcases the depths some guys will sink to in the UK, it is quite symbolic of the overall dating market here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...wered.html

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grandmother-of-three who has dated more than a 100 toyboys in the last five years says she has no plans to settle down with a man her own age.

Twice-divorced Gaynor Evans, 56, from Enfield, north London, says she is having the time of her life with men half her age who make her feel 'sexy and empowered'.

Gaynor meets the men aged between 25 and 35 on wild nights out, through dating app Tinder and dating website toyboywarehouse.com


Gaynor says the benefits of younger men are obvious.

'It's fairly simple really - they're young, fit, and fun. Younger men have got stamina, drive, enthusiasm and are able to repeat perform,' she explained.

Gaynor previously revealed in the MailOnline how she lost two stone thanks to her active sex life with younger men, and she has also appeared on Channel 5 documentary 24 Hour Party Pensioners.


This has led to online trolls criticising her but she makes no apologies for her behaviour.

She said: 'I don't want to age gracefully, I'm quite happy to be a disgrace. It's not worth worrying about what other people think about you. You've got to do what makes you happy and young toyboys make me very happy.'


Gaynor enjoys going on nights out with her daughters but her eldest, Laura, 37, admits she didn't always approve of her mother's antics.

Laura said: 'I just wanted my mum to be normal. I thought why couldn't she just find a man that's a similar age and maybe wants to settle down.'

But Gaynor said is has no interest in men her own age.

She said: 'Younger men always look forward, they are telling you things they are going to do, where they are going.

'They are talking about today and tomorrow whereas older guys talk about today in a fairly negative way and go on about what they used to do in the past.'

She said she knows there may be no future in the relationship and her laid-back approach makes her more attractive to would-be suitors, meaning she is never short on offers for dates.


She explained: 'Older women are confident in our own skins, there's no dancing around. We know what we're going to do and how to do it.

'We're not pinning them down for dates, we're not chasing them on the phone or saying "what are you doing this weekend, where are you taking me?"'

She added: 'I always have a few on the go. I'm not saying you sleep with one, one night, another the next but over the course of a month you might see a couple of different people.'



Gaynor, a recruiter, said she feels she is making up for lost time after meeting her first husband as a teenager and marrying him when she was 18.

They had three children together before divorcing and Gaynor then fell into another relationship almost immediately with a man 18 years her junior, who became husband number two.

The marriage lasted nearly 20 years and the couple had a son together. But when that too ended in divorce Gaynor decided to rethink her outlook on life and overhaul her appearance.

She said: 'I thought: "I'm not going to let this get me down, I'm just going to have to turn this around so I reinvented myself - lost weight, went to the beauticians - and started going out with my daughters, who at that point were in their late 20s, early 30s, because my good friends were all settled with their husbands or partners.'

Young men would approach her and after initially rebuffing their advances, Gaynor decided to give them a chance.

She said: 'In the early days when I was newly single, I was a bit wild. I'd never had a one-night stand in my youth - I didn't know what they were - though obviously I do now.'



Family still 'come first' for the grandmother and while she often dates men the same age as her son, 24, who still lives home, she said his friends are out of bounds.

'When his friends are round I go into mother mode. I smother them and I don't even visualise them in any other way than I am the mum,' she said.

She's also careful not to flaunt her conquests when on a night out with her daughter, as Laura said: 'If I'm out with my mum she might have an encounter or a kiss but I don't like that in front of my face.'

Firstly it's stunning that she lives in North London, a city where women come from all over the world to visit and live from every corner of the earth yet she still has no shortage of young guys to bang and date. The fact that she can set her own age limits gives an insight into the workings of the dating market here in the UK.

Secondly the fact that she appears on a television documentary on one of Britain's leading television channels says it all. We all know that if a fifty six year old man was going out and banging women in their twenties and talking about maintaining a harem, he would be the subject of a vicious campaign against him. He would probably lose his job, undoubtedly be called a 'pervert' a 'loser' and someone who needs 'to grow up'. Yet when this women does it she gets an article written about her in a very positive tone, with a somewhat admirable feel to it as she lives her own life, despite negative comments and peoples disapproval.

Thirdly I think that this article gives a great insight into the female psyche and supports the men on this forum who preach that all women are sluts given the right conditions. Look at her early life. She got married at eighteen and had three children. When that marriage fell apart she got married within a short period for a second time, the second marriage lasting twenty years. Most men on this forum would praise her for getting married so young and reproducing. The fact that she quickly got married again and for twenty years would lead many to think that this was a women who valued commitment and stability, who rejected being a slut and if you believe her, never having a one night stand. This sounds like a role model for young girls and women, yet given the correct conditions.......here we are, a complete slut with many one night stands to her name.

I find it amusing when the hamster makes it's presence felt.

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" 'Older women are confident in our own skins, there's no dancing around. We know what we're going to do and how to do it."

Quote: (03-16-2016 03:10 PM)Poker Wrote:  

She said: 'Younger men always look forward, they are telling you things they are going to do, where they are going.

'They are talking about today and tomorrow whereas older guys talk about today in a fairly negative way and go on about what they used to do in the past.'

This is the beneficial game wisdom for older men on how to act to keep getting pussy.

^ I think that article and what you wrote, highlights the reason why you need to move to London or a big city.

Hags like that ain't getting dick in London, unless it is some newly arrived migrant looking papers. The hag is dreadful, I say the article is more feminist crap.

Quote: (03-16-2016 03:18 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^ I think that article and what you wrote, highlights the reason why you need to move to London or a big city.

Hags like that ain't getting dick in London, unless it is some newly arrived migrant looking papers. The hag is dreadful, I say the article is more feminist crap.

The shocking thing is, is that she lives in North London, in Enfield which isn't exactly a bad part of London.

You're right, the big cities are defiantly better here.

At the moment I'm working and travelling on a cycle. I need to work out the financial aspect as I want to derive a passive income and after travelling, relocate abroad. Luckily many of the members here run successful businesses or work for the people who do, so have a wealth of knowledge to share in that field. I'm sure that as I establish myself here and meet forum members on the road various members will give me advice. But that discussion is for another thread.

Quote: (03-16-2016 03:18 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^ I think that article and what you wrote, highlights the reason why you need to move to London or a big city.

Hags like that ain't getting dick in London, unless it is some newly arrived migrant looking papers. The hag is dreadful, I say the article is more feminist crap.

Sorry, Rudebwoy, I've got to disagree here. As bizarre as it might seem for us older dogs on here to believe, feral hags such as the one featured in the Daily Mail article really can have their picks of younger guys in the UK. I've noticed this on sites such as POF and OKC in my local area and have even had older women, i.e. 50 +, who were also no stunners either, boast to me how they can still pick and choose guys even at their age, and that many of them won't even entertain a guy the same age as them online, let alone a guy that's older.

I know it's a shocking pill to swallow - hell, it took me long enough before I fully realized that the grim possibility claimed in this article was indeed reality. For me, the trend of young, even decent-looking guys chasing 50+ hags is simply a function of the hypergamy bar getting set ever higher for men in the UK, such that for an increasing percentage of men, women of their own age, even overweight ones, are becoming out of their reach on the dating market. As a result, these guys are faced with a stark choice if they want sex in the UK: pay exhorbitantly for it, go transgender, go queer or settle for a granny. For many men, as repugnant as it must sound to RVF members' ears, the last option is the least worst for these men.

Worse than this, there are even articles of women similar in appearance to the thing featured in this article claiming that guys will actually pay her for sexual services. Given the thirst in the UK these days, anything is conceivable, as far as I am concerned.

Quote: (03-16-2016 03:41 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

Quote: (03-16-2016 03:18 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

^ I think that article and what you wrote, highlights the reason why you need to move to London or a big city.

Hags like that ain't getting dick in London, unless it is some newly arrived migrant looking papers. The hag is dreadful, I say the article is more feminist crap.

Snip.

Feldeinsamkeit, in your opinion when and why did it get like this? I very rarely see or here about it as I think a lot of guys still carry a certain sense of shame about it, but I'm certain it happens more than one would like to think behind closed doors, when no one else can see. It's a shame to see what depths many guys will sink too.

Poker - damn son, my bad. She is from my former neck of the woods. I don't blame you for working on a exit plan, simply shocking.

Feldeinsamkeit - I am a older dog myself. You cannot blame those old hags, you can only blame the thirsty young boys who are giving them dick. I could never get hard for that wrinkly hag, simply shocking. Usually women like her have to go overseas to get third world dick.

I was in London until 2010, I did not experience anything like that. I found the invasion of Eastern European girls made the market better, alot of the UK women started to complain that men were choosing them instead. My friends are telling me these women from EE/Central Europe are still coming over, most of them end up in London.
Better yet, why don't you go visit some of these countries, I mean you have so many to choose from. Bulgaria, Romania, Czech, Slovakia, Hungary, Balkans, Baltics and I still think there are a few good spots in Western Europe.

It is certainly a better proposition than someone living in Canada or Australia, we don't have many places we can escape to for the weekend.

I still stand by what I said before, London would be a good move. Maybe you could tell us what it was like living in Germany?

Feldeinsamkeit, how are you doing with your plan to escape Western Europe? Haven't seen you post about that in a while. Figured talking about that might improve your mood, or at least spur you to action.