Quote: (01-28-2016 10:07 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Quote: (01-28-2016 08:37 PM)toejam Wrote:  

Not sure what this is but:
Went out with this going chick I've already banged. I last minute texted her to meet me for lunch, she was there in no time. We're having a conversation but she doesn't really like that I'm being jerkish. She was laughing at times and then said
Her: "you're a dick" (and laughs).
Me: without flinching or moving I say "I know. A big dick I've been told. "
She laughs grabs my am.

How do you respond to:
You're a dick.
You're an ass.
You're a jerk.

Is it a test

By banging her again

Yes, but in all seriousness, reframe.

"Yeah and you like it"
(With a grin on your face and relaxed body language like you're having an awesome time and you're telling her, yes, being a dick is a good thing...because let's face it, it is.)

Quote: (01-28-2016 08:37 PM)toejam Wrote:  

Not sure what this is but:
Went out with this going chick I've already banged. I last minute texted her to meet me for lunch, she was there in no time. We're having a conversation but she doesn't really like that I'm being jerkish. She was laughing at times and then said
Her: "you're a dick" (and laughs).
Me: without flinching or moving I say "I know. A big dick I've been told. "
She laughs grabs my am.

How do you respond to:
You're a dick.
You're an ass.
You're a jerk.

Is it a test

I was told all 3 by a girl I fucked last night, she tried keeping with my sarcastic asshol game and couldn't. BUT IT MADE HER LAUGH

You're a dick.- The biggest and baddest
You're an ass. - Well I have been doing heavy squats
You're a jerk. - Hey you either love me or hate me

Other responses:

"And you expected something less ?"
"I'm the nicest asshole you'll ever meet"
"so? want some boring and insecure guy ? I can set you up with one I know!"
"you goddamn right I am"

Say ALL of this with a shit eating grin and you're golden pony boy.

I invited a chick over the other night after my hockey game. Haven't smashed yet. Texted her, told her to come over (1 hour drive away). She says she wants to come but gives a little resistance...

her:I'll come if you promise to not try and have sex with me.
me:I make no promises miss.
her:why not
me:let me clarify. I make no promises I know I won't keep.
her:I thought you wanted to get to know me better. Thats the only stipulation in me coming there tonight.
me:I invited you to come hang out precisely to get to know you better.
her:ok I'll be there!

She showed up after my game at like 11pm, smoked a joint with her, geared down, smashed like 5 times. After, she's like, I'm so mad at myself, I didn't want to do that...I'm like ya sure, right. She's like - you knew you were gonna fuck me tonight didn't you!. I just looked back at her and smirked haha. Golden.

Quote: (02-01-2016 01:33 AM)spygoat Wrote:  

I invited a chick over the other night after my hockey game. Haven't smashed yet. Texted her, told her to come over (1 hour drive away). She says she wants to come but gives a little resistance...

her:I'll come if you promise to not try and have sex with me.
me:I make no promises miss.
her:why not
me:let me clarify. I make no promises I know I won't keep.
her:I thought you wanted to get to know me better. Thats the only stipulation in me coming there tonight.
me:I invited you to come hang out precisely to get to know you better.
her:ok I'll be there!

She showed up after my game at like 11pm, smoked a joint with her, geared down, smashed like 5 times. After, she's like, I'm so mad at myself, I didn't want to do that...I'm like ya sure, right. She's like - you knew you were gonna fuck me tonight didn't you!. I just looked back at her and smirked haha. Golden.

game, set, match

Clearly a shit test, but how to respond to "...I've heard you got plenty of booty calls" via text?

"Nah I'm gay", "too busy with church choir", "those are just friends".

Depends on the girl and what you think she's angling for.

^I have binders of women on speed dial.

That's a Mitt joke...

Quote: (01-28-2016 08:37 PM)toejam Wrote:  

Not sure what this is but:
Went out with this going chick I've already banged. I last minute texted her to meet me for lunch, she was there in no time. We're having a conversation but she doesn't really like that I'm being jerkish. She was laughing at times and then said
Her: "you're a dick" (and laughs).
Me: without flinching or moving I say "I know. A big dick I've been told. "
She laughs grabs my am.

How do you respond to:
You're a dick.
You're an ass.
You're a jerk.

Is it a test

All good suggestions so far. I like being childish with women sometimes, because, let's face it, they're overgrown children:

Her- You're being an ass/dick/jerk.
You- I know you are, but what am I? (smirking)

H: you're being a dick
Y: That's "Mr. dick" to you.... ( of course, smirking)

This girl that I've already had sex with is trying to somehow decelerate things, I can't help but think it constitutes some sort of shit test - post-LMR in a way.

Her reasoning is that she says I hurt her a lot. The first time we banged she was clearly in pain, but told me she wasn't and held out like a champ - I ended up hurrying up and finishing because her face looked like I was torturing her. The second time she was more up front about the pain and tried to stop early. I put her on top of my so she could control the rhythm and depth, but she insisted on stopping again and then wouldn't do anything to finish me off. When I'm escalating physically there is almost no receiprocation on her part, she isn't letting herself get into it, and a couple times she's just stopped me altogether.

To be fair, she's a petite girl and she *claims* she hasn't had sex in a while. In the past I've had girls say I hurt them by bumping their cervix if I go too far, but it's not like I've left a series of prolapsed vaginas in my wake and I know I'm not that monstrously big.

After the last time she started saying how she thinks she's not psychologically comfortable enough with me, she doesn't know me very well and (of course) she *never* does this, that she's surprised things have gone so far so fast with us. She says "it's just a matter of time and I'll get to know you better and be comfortable with you," but at this point I don't even feel like seeing her again - the time I spend trying to get her "comfortable" could be better invested meeting another girl who is actually fun in bed.

I've profiled her as an ex-party girl approaching the wall and trying to shift gears (she's 29) and I suspect that has something to do with it - some kind of ploy to get me more invested, or a shit test to see if I will get all beta and affectionate. Then again, she's a Muslim girl, claims to be somewhat practicing, and I have heard that psychological hangups really can cause a girl's vagina to clam up.

Anyone have thoughts on the situation?

Quote: (02-08-2016 07:39 AM)InsertNameHere Wrote:  

Then again, she's a Muslim girl, claims to be somewhat practicing, and I have heard that psychological hangups really can cause a girl's vagina to clam up.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this (from personal past experience) coupled with her age and no doubt her perception that its unlikely to be a LTR

her: You should cook for me.
me: My place at 8, please bring the desert waxed mirk

Quote: (02-08-2016 09:04 AM)BackFromTheBrink Wrote:  

Quote: (02-08-2016 07:39 AM)InsertNameHere Wrote:  

Then again, she's a Muslim girl, claims to be somewhat practicing, and I have heard that psychological hangups really can cause a girl's vagina to clam up.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this (from personal past experience) coupled with her age and no doubt her perception that its unlikely to be a LTR

I dated a muslim (brit) girl like that once, she was a careerist go-grrl type about 30 and trying to lock down a beta and transition out of her party girl lifestyle. She claimed she "wasn't that type of girl" etc, and seemed to think that because she "let me have sex with her" that I was obligated to do whatever she said. And she would say it all whiney when she didn't get her way, like "But why not, I let you have sex with meeeeee". And yet she would have no problem going out for happy hour with co workers, eating meat and getting tanked on budweiser then smoking a pack of cigs, but then when she came back to my place she felt bad because of some other religious reason she'd make up. She actually told me she couldn't have sex on Ramadan or whatever day it was because she felt bad for all the starving children in India...so I gave her the


and never looked back.

Quote: (02-09-2016 01:15 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

I dated a muslim (brit) girl like that once, she was a careerist go-grrl type about 30 and trying to lock down a beta and transition out of her party girl lifestyle. She claimed she "wasn't that type of girl" etc, and seemed to think that because she "let me have sex with her" that I was obligated to do whatever she said. And she would say it all whiney when she didn't get her way, like "But why not, I let you have sex with meeeeee". And yet she would have no problem going out for happy hour with co workers, eating meat and getting tanked on budweiser then smoking a pack of cigs, but then when she came back to my place she felt bad because of some other religious reason she'd make up. She actually told me she couldn't have sex on Ramadan or whatever day it was because she felt bad for all the starving children in India...so I gave her the


and never looked back.

This has become kind of my niche in the past few years, and yeah the level of hamstering and incoherent rationalisation that goes into reconciling supposed religious beliefs with living the cool modern party girl lifestyle is sometimes astounding - but hey it works out in my favour, and who am I to judge. In the case of the girl mentioned above, I think her reluctance has more to do with the panic of approaching the wall and needing to lock a guy down (and convincing him she's a 'good girl') and less with any religious questions. Regardless of religion, women are still women and biology is king.

Yeah I agree with you, biology usually trumps everything, until the hamstering and cognitive dissonance becomes too insane to manage. But in that scenario I just can't let myself be the loser to a religion when the only thing she's "sacrificing" for her religious beliefs isn't drinking or smoking, but my sexual satisfaction. It's like if you married a Catholic and they have to sacrifice something for Lent, and they decide to keep drinking beer and smoking during Lent, but give up having sex. Sorry, that's not gonna work with me honey. Some women definitely try to use their religious nature very selectively, and she seemed the type to turn it off & on only when it was useful for her, and she seemed very hypocritical in her application of these values and that bothered me the most.

Quote: (02-09-2016 01:15 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

I dated a muslim (brit) girl like that once, she was a careerist go-grrl type about 30 and trying to lock down a beta and transition out of her party girl lifestyle. She claimed she "wasn't that type of girl" etc, and seemed to think that because she "let me have sex with her" that I was obligated to do whatever she said. And she would say it all whiney when she didn't get her way, like "But why not, I let you have sex with meeeeee". And yet she would have no problem going out for happy hour with co workers, eating meat and getting tanked on budweiser then smoking a pack of cigs, but then when she came back to my place she felt bad because of some other religious reason she'd make up. She actually told me she couldn't have sex on Ramadan or whatever day it was because she felt bad for all the starving children in India...so I gave her the


and never looked back.

freakin hilarious. starving children in india..... hahahaha
was she a good bang though?

Yeah, she wasn't saying anything about starving children while I was buying her drinks at the bar, or when I bought dinner, or when she sucked down a pack of cigs, or when I picked up a 6-pack for us to take to the house...but when those clothes came off the hamster went into overdrive. She was like, I just can't enjoy myself today because it's Ramadan and I'm thinking about all the starving children in India and I feel bad for being here having so much fun while people are suffering. So I told her she should go fuck Mohammed instead then, and that was it. Like InsertNameHere says, she was trying to decelerate the relationship after we started out hot and heavy, and she was playing the power and control with sex game, and I wasn't having any of that.

She was cute and naturally petite but after years of "happy houring" she was dangerously close to the edge of blowing up like a balloon. She looked good with clothes on, but things got real soft and flabby when the tights came off. I was trying to get her to come exercise with me and stop drinking and smoking so much. But she wanted to keep doing her happy hour "career building & networking" type of shit while I hit the gym so I just let her hang herself.

She was an average bang at best (5 or 6/10), she was #3 in my rotation at the time, and the first 2 were some straight FREAKS, so letting her go was easy as could be. I was just pissed she made me cancel on one of my other chicks and wasted my time playing sex games and trying to take control. I actually saw her again several months ago in the grocery store, I guess she had broken her leg because she had a large cast, and she looked like she gained at least 50lbs. The wall came hard and fast.

Quote: (02-09-2016 08:22 PM)DamienCasanova Wrote:  

The wall came hard and fast.

Lol - it does. A line I often throw out there, especially with younger girls, is that they are in their prime and heading downhill, whereas if I take care of myself I'll be Clooney in 10 years and they'll be the crypt creeper. Works pretty good.

Tried agree & amplify here

At a mixer, at a group with 4 girls and me:

Girl: "What's your major?"
Me: "...Guess."
Girl: "Women's Studies!"
Me: "Yup. Women's Studies Dance Therapy. Nailed it." with a sarcastic look on my face.

1. Even my sarcastic A&A felt a little bit like self-deprecation to me, and I've read/think that self-deprecation can be detrimental to early game. So I'm a little uncomfortable using self-deprecation in game, in that it can be used when your value is already established (which it wasn't in my case).

I still ended up talking to them and went into one of my routines. Engaged the cutest girl the most, so the conversation was still on.

2. A better response?

Quote: (02-14-2016 08:30 PM)The Man w/ the Golden Gun Wrote:  

Tried agree & amplify here

At a mixer, at a group with 4 girls and me:

Girl: "What's your major?"
Me: "...Guess."
Girl: "Women's Studies!"
Me: "Yup. Women's Studies Dance Therapy. Nailed it." with a sarcastic look on my face.

1. Even my sarcastic A&A felt a little bit like self-deprecation to me, and I've read/think that self-deprecation can be detrimental to early game. So I'm a little uncomfortable using self-deprecation in game, in that it can be used when your value is already established (which it wasn't in my case).

I still ended up talking to them and went into one of my routines. Engaged the cutest girl the most, so the conversation was still on.

2. A better response?

Yup. Women's Studies - white girls, asian girls, black girls, purple girls - doing my PhD on the reproductive benefits of a shaved vagina.

I hate that self-deprecation man - its the lowest form of humour you can use on women. Rather come across as a player/dickhead than a pussy.

Quote: (02-14-2016 08:30 PM)The Man w/ the Golden Gun Wrote:  

Tried agree & amplify here

At a mixer, at a group with 4 girls and me:

Girl: "What's your major?"
Me: "...Guess."
Girl: "Women's Studies!"
Me: "Yup. Women's Studies Dance Therapy. Nailed it." with a sarcastic look on my face.

1. Even my sarcastic A&A felt a little bit like self-deprecation to me, and I've read/think that self-deprecation can be detrimental to early game. So I'm a little uncomfortable using self-deprecation in game, in that it can be used when your value is already established (which it wasn't in my case).

I still ended up talking to them and went into one of my routines. Engaged the cutest girl the most, so the conversation was still on.

2. A better response?

Or say something like "Yeah and I minor in underwater basket weaving" and you don't need to use an obvious sarcastic tone. Sometimes that can come of as tryhard, or even a little butthurt. Just have a casual tone about it with a smirk on your face. She'll know your fucking with her and you're smooth and natural with it.

On a first date with this traditional Chinese girl who's older than I. These girls tend to be blunt, I soon figured out, and the date got super meta. She asks:

Her: "Have you dated American girls before?"

standard shit test

Me: "One million served! *pointing at strangers* This one, that one, all of 'em"

She cracks up laughing and tells me, "You're very clever! You know how to answer a question without exposing yourself!"

I initially was a little shocked she called me out on game, but she prides herself on being clever too so I told her "And you say you're clever yourself, so when we put our heads together, the world better watch out."

A bigger shit test:

She's at the point of wanting to settle down, and I'm far from that. She called the situation out for what it was, and she told me she wanted to make sure we were on the same page.

My response: "That's not the kind of situation you can just rush into. All I know is that you like me, and I like you, and we'll see where that goes."

Went for a kiss during the tail end of the date, and she said, "Just a hug. I'm not at that level yet."

I'm nexting her because overall it seems like she wants me to fit into her schedule of things rather than the opposite way around. Pass. Although it kinda confused me because she wants me to teach her jiujitsu and she wants to cook for me.

How do you handle girls who get meta on your game?

Met up with a cute blonde university professor I met via online dating at her house over the weekend, early 30s. We're in bed and things are moving forward when she suddenly stops short and goes:

Her: "Wait. Wait. Just um...a question...are you the jealous type?"

Me: "Do I seem like the jealous type?"

"Umm...."

"I'm pretty sure there's a question about that on the site where I definitely say that jealousy is unhealthy in relationships. Didn't you read my profile thoroughly?"

She laughs, and I proceed to fuck her silly and then cum on her face.

I'm not sure what she was hoping to get out of that one (did she think I was going to say yes?) or if the way I played it was perfect, but I guess that answer worked well enough.

Nvm. Misunderstood you.

Quote: (03-09-2016 07:34 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

Met up with a cute blonde university professor I met via online dating at her house over the weekend, early 30s. We're in bed and things are moving forward when she suddenly stops short and goes:

Her: "Wait. Wait. Just um...a question...are you the jealous type?"

Me: "Do I seem like the jealous type?"

"Umm...."

"I'm pretty sure there's a question about that on the site where I definitely say that jealousy is unhealthy in relationships. Didn't you read my profile thoroughly?"

She laughs, and I proceed to fuck her silly and then cum on her face.

I'm not sure what she was hoping to get out of that one (did she think I was going to say yes?) or if the way I played it was perfect, but I guess that answer worked well enough.

I would have said something like "Wow you're horrible at dirty talk."

Got the "are you a player" shit test for the first time. It probably means my game is improving? Tell me if my response was good...

Her: So why don't you have a girlfriend?
Me: Well, you know, girlfriends come and go, and mine has gone and hasn't come back...
(I actually started laughing at this coz I cracked myself up, and then said "oh man, that was good, made myself laugh!")

Her (later in the conversation): So, are you a fuckboy?
Me: lol wtf does that mean? Is that like a male prostitute? Yes, I do that in my spare time, but I charge a lot of money. Like, a LOT. Hmm, which is probably why no one hires me. I should look into changing up my rates. Do you want to be my accountant?