This date features a fun times girl with a clueless beta who brings flowers.

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Becca: He brought flowers, which was nice. To me that was a little weird. … He told me his roommate said he had to do it.

She essentially calls him a loser for not being "fun"...

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Becca: There were certainly different things about him compared to guys I’ve been with in the past, but not necessarily positive traits. He doesn’t really seem to have as much fun going out and getting a drink. ... I don’t want to make him sound like a loser because he certainly was not.

Maybe 10 guys or so?

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We were talking about back in college … I can pull out 700 crazy college stories. … The craziest night he probably had was he finished three-quarters of a bottle of Fireball.

He also wasn't tall enough:

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Becca: He was a little shorter than my type. He was at least my height if not a half-inch shorter, which is a turnoff.

He made a cryptic comment about her weight:

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She was … a little shorter than me. Definitely not like 100 pounds petite. But definitely healthy and in shape and very good-looking. Not my normal type. … I don’t know why, I’ve just always found very petite girls quite attractive.

Her LinkedIn has a photo that suggests non-petiteness...



She also has a criminal record:

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#1 LARC - PETIT THEFT 2ND DEGREE 1ST OFFENSE

And of course she has some SJW cred:

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Communications Intern
National Network to End Domestic Violence (NNEDV)

What a disappointment for her to not find a guy who has had the "fun" that she has had in life. And what a bullet dodge for him.

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Becca: He brought flowers, which was nice. To me that was a little weird. …

Flowers on a first date in DC in the year 2015 does this guy have any awareness of his environment?

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Becca: He was dressed really nicely. He said he lives with … a girl, and the girl was giving him all this advice, like he had to get a haircut and make sure he shaved for the date — but also make sure he didn’t shave everything; keep, like, a stubble.

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Becca: He brought flowers, which was nice. To me that was a little weird. … He told me his roommate said he had to do it

He broke a cardinal rule of Game: Never, ever listen to a woman for romantic advice.

Flowers on the first date? With your typical American white carousel rider?

Someday he'll look back on his appearance on Date Lab and go, 'man, how silly was I back then.'

Because some kind soul is going to forward him the link to RVF. And he'll get exposed to a whole philosophy that his probably fat female roommate never told him about - a philosophy not designed to keep him fat, clueless and helpless. And then he'll learn the ins and outs of dating, women and taking care of himself, by men who were once like him and found a better way.

I mean, either that or he can go on letting some chubbo groom and dress him for his next round of rejection. Whatever he wants.

Notice the use of the code phrases "trying to have fun" and "having fun" to mean "riding the cock carousel and making my vag tingle".

I'll never forget giving flowers to a girl back in 2012, on two occasions, because she was pulling herself away from me. What happened, you ask? She went back to her ex.

Never again. Never. It doesn't accomplish shit.

Fuck, I have been flowers on all my dates. Dammit no wonder!

Archetypal story right here. Modern dating in America has rendered my once warm heart cold.

"Rate the date:
Becca: 2 [out of 5]. I just didn’t feel that immediate kind of connection. I usually don’t feel it right away.

Jordan: A 4.7. I enjoyed her company, and I found her attractive. It’s worth trying again to see what happens."

And: "Becca: Right now I would put him in the friend category. I mean he was really, really sweet. I certainly had a good time with him."

Flowers, dinner at a nice restaurant ($$$ on yelp), and ends with him squarely in the friendzone with a girl who has probably banged out two dozen guys. Ouch - couldn't possibly be more beta. Reading these sorts of stories makes me really happy to have found the forum.

Quote: (05-29-2015 08:28 AM)Sumanguru Wrote:  

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Becca: He was dressed really nicely. He said he lives with … a girl, and the girl was giving him all this advice, like he had to get a haircut and make sure he shaved for the date — but also make sure he didn’t shave everything; keep, like, a stubble.

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Becca: He brought flowers, which was nice. To me that was a little weird. … He told me his roommate said he had to do it

He broke a cardinal rule of Game: Never, ever listen to a woman for romantic advice.

Flowers on the first date? With your typical American white carousel rider?

I was thinking the same thing, assuming his roommate is a guy, that what kind of guy would give such advice. Of course his roommate is a girl.

Is it just me or does it seem like women at the lower end of the sexual market seem the most willing to comment about a man's looks and his status? She seems so bothered that he's not tall and the life of the party.

She definitely has the look of an aggressive, entitled chick from a lessor sorority who at best was a late night call for a guaranteed bj. I remember those women, they'd show up at my frat around 2:30 or so, definitely not the pick of the litter (obviously). Those are the 700 stories she's probably talking about.

That girl looks familiar... I could have sworn I'd seen her at a gym in DC. But she's only 24, so that can't be the one I've seen... but still.

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We were talking about back in college … I can pull out 700 crazy college stories. … The craziest night he probably had was he finished three-quarters of a bottle of Fireball.

Quote: (05-29-2015 08:28 AM)Sumanguru Wrote:  

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Becca: He was dressed really nicely. He said he lives with … a girl, and the girl was giving him all this advice, like he had to get a haircut and make sure he shaved for the date — but also make sure he didn’t shave everything; keep, like, a stubble.

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Becca: He brought flowers, which was nice. To me that was a little weird. … He told me his roommate said he had to do it

He broke a cardinal rule of Game: Never, ever listen to a woman for romantic advice.

Flowers on the first date? With your typical American white carousel rider?

Giving flowers on the first date to your typical American white carousel rider is like putting a silk hat on a pig. Maybe this guy thought it was 1915 instead of 2015?

Girls know that flowers are ridiculous. His roommate purposely sabotaged him. Because while he may have no shot of banging this roommate SHE wants to keep him on the hook for use as an emotional tampon

Anyone ever thought of giving flowers then acting like a complete asshole/player?

Would be an amusing date to say the least.

Aside from the obvious carousel rider attributes here's the red flag phrases and translation:

Becca: He was dressed really nicely. He said he lives with … a girl, and the girl was giving him all this advice

Becca: He brought flowers, which was nice. To me that was a little weird. … He told me his roommate said he had to do it.

translation: I like men who barely get by and are thuggish and rough ghetto alphas.


Becca: He was a little shorter than my type. He was at least my height if not a half-inch shorter, which is a turnoff.

translation: I like huge men that dominate me physically and emotionally because i'm a damaged J.A.P. (jewish american princess)

Becca: Right now I would put him in the friend category. I mean he was really, really sweet. I certainly had a good time with him.

translation: He might have money since he's from an established class/ethnicity but cute like a chihuahua with no possibility of catching a whiff of this pussy. I like fancy dinners, so i'll keep him around, maybe.

Becca: He works out a lot. I’m a runner. I realized he was also Jewish ... and I was like … Oh, yep, this is why they set us up together.

translation: I hate men of my own ethnicity unless they are 1% rich.


Becca: We both really like cheese. So instead of getting dessert we just got a cheese platter.

translation: cheese platter may enable to excuse myself from foul odors early to treat my undiagnosed yeast infection.

He'll probably learn a few things. He has a good 20 years yet to mature, I'm sure he'll get at least a little better.

With any luck he'll bang her yet unborn daughter when he's 45.

This is what women like her don't understand, because they don't need to. They don't need income or safety or retirement. Someday, they'll need attention, but that's not something women look for long-term anyway (interestingly, men do look for that, which is why men get married).

Guy is 24, so he's still got time to improve. She's 22 and ostensibly in her prime. Needless to say it's not looking good for her.

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Jordan: It’s a little too early to tell, but I would be okay with and definitely interested in the second meet-up being a romantic one. Just to see if that’s what’s going on.

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Becca said she and Jordan have texted but haven’t gone out again. “Neither of us has really taken the initiative at this point,” Jordan said. “But perhaps sometime soon.”

Dude has neither game nor frame.

Delete...I missed that Roosh already picked up on her criminal past. But you have to click on that link to see the mugshot. Ouch.

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We were talking about back in college … I can pull out 700 crazy college stories. … The craziest night he probably had was he finished three-quarters of a bottle of Fireball.

Holy shit, shes only 22? Probably hit the wall at 16.

What makes you guys think he is going to some how improve with women? Most men never do.

He seems like a decent enough guy but it is clear that he has no dating experience at all nor any male friends that he can go to for advice. It wouldn't surprise me if he was still a virgin or never had a girlfriend.

This girl was clearly not into him but since he doesn't have any other options he still was open to going on another date with her. Even if a man has no other dating options he needs to know when to walk away.

Hopefully he seeks out some quality game resources. He's young and seems to have a good job so if he applied himself he could definitely turn things around.

Jewish girls like this need to be treated like whores. It's what they crave (and often what they are). WB only if she showed up naked with a case of Muscle Milk.

Brian is right, especially w.r.t. a place like DC. I've been on so many dates where I see other couples also on dates, and the guys have no clue. Probably never will. They'll be sitting across from each other talking about some BS, meanwhile I have my tongue in the girls throat and her hand on my dick.

All this dude has to do is google "how to meet girls in DC." ROK article is 1st hit, Roosh article is 4th hit. I mean it's right there in front of them, it's not even a big secret anymore if they just know how to use google.

I wish Roissy still did these Beta of the Month entries. He'd certainly qualify. Nostalgic.

Quote: (05-29-2015 09:48 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Jewish girls like this need to be treated like whores. It's what they crave (and often what they are). WB only if she showed up naked with a case of Muscle Milk.

Brian is right, especially w.r.t. a place like DC. I've been on so many dates where I see other couples also on dates, and the guys have no clue. Probably never will. They'll be sitting across from each other talking about some BS, meanwhile I have my tongue in the girls throat and her hand on my dick.

All this dude has to do is google "how to meet girls in DC." ROK article is 1st hit, Roosh article is 4th hit. I mean it's right there in front of them, it's not even a big secret anymore if they just know how to use google.

You know, if you really knew Jewish girls, you'd know that the "bang" is beside the point. They're into giving Lewinskys.

Also, this guy got screwed -- ironically -- because he's Jewish. The wilder type Jewish girls don't go near Nice Jewish Boys like him until they're around 35 or so and have exhausted (am I mean that literally) all their other options.