Quote: (05-26-2015 08:06 AM)dagon Wrote:  

I am almost 40, I'll die in 40 years or so (If I live that long)

do you actually think I care about society and where it's going? hahahahaha

Odd, because you seem like a 17 year old hotshot shooting his mouth off.

and then for those talking about how they will pass away but their legacy will live on

hahahaahahahha

most kids turn 18 leave home and barely remember they have parents!

your legacy is as good as used toilet paper, if any of you were as exceptional as you claim, you wouldn't be on a forum about whore mongers and banging women!

we're all just numbers, some of you divorced because you fell in the trap and married your sweetheart who then turned into a godzilla whale and now divorced paying child support wanna talk about values and shit while looking down on your high horses

Like I said, I endured five years of chronic pain and saw the worst humanity has to offer and the best

Do not BS me... I am an old dog, I know what lies behind most human intentions!

Humans are by nature HYPOCRITES, FAKE, SHALLOW, AND VERY INSECURE!

scratch beneath 99% of humanity and you'll see an ocean of insecurities and hypocrisy! I can already smell some of you by just reading you

like I said, enjoy the ride call life while it lasts and shove these so called values you have up your ass because no one but you cares for them, at the end of the day this charade we call life is all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

^^^

Just captured footage of Monsieur Dagon helpfully disposing of himself:

Hmm I see, do tell me more?


I do hope that when I turn 40, I'm not signing up to internet forums to rant incoherent random bullshit.

Quote: (05-26-2015 08:23 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

It matters how you live your next 40 years.

It may not matter to you, but it matters to other people and their families.

The gay marriage issue is opposed by many of us not due to the fact that we want Oscar Wilde kind of imprisonment for just being gay. The issue matters because
- they push the gay and gender agenda,
- they hoist homosexuals ABOVE heterosexuals (try going before family court against one)
- they give opportunity to adopt children despite their unions being inferior (statistics show higher number of sexual & emotional abuse)
- militant lesbians are rampant in government, child care & family law positions (in the past they were sometimes called the shock-troops of feminism because they hated family & men)

Even if you personally hate the nuclear family, then all that hate and vitriol is useless in terms of civilization. The family structure gives a natural psychological structure for children despite all our attempts at trying to stamp it out - orphans crave parents and even half-orphans crave the absent father or mother. It works because that is how we as humans raise our young.

We have to set a line somewhere, otherwise it will be necrophilia and snuff movies sooner or later.

If what you're worried about is your children (whether current or hypothetical future) and how they will interact with the world in 40 years, it is a very poor/inefficient use of time resources to try to alter the direction of society/culture or create some sort of conservative utopia.

Even if you were a multi billionaire or a president of a major country or the pope, your ability to truly change the direction of society/culture would be very limited at best.

For the average individual, it's even worse. Trying to change the direction of society/culture is roughly equivalent to standing in front of a hurricane and attempting to change its direction by huffing and puffing.

On the other hand, if you are a truly dedicated father, and do your very best to create a stable home environment for your child, educate them, play with them, etc etc, then you can have a very large impact on the life of your child and how your child will interact with the world 40 years from now. That's where you are best off focusing your efforts.

Quote: (05-26-2015 09:03 AM)dagon Wrote:  

and then for those talking about how they will pass away but their legacy will live on

hahahaahahahha

most kids turn 18 leave home and barely remember they have parents!

your legacy is as good as used toilet paper, if any of you were as exceptional as you claim, you wouldn't be on a forum about whore mongers and banging women!

we're all just numbers, some of you divorced because you fell in the trap and married your sweetheart who then turned into a godzilla whale and now divorced paying child support wanna talk about values and shit while looking down on your high horses

Like I said, I endured five years of chronic pain and saw the worst humanity has to offer and the best

Do not BS me... I am an old dog, I know what lies behind most human intentions!

Humans are by nature HYPOCRITES, FAKE, SHALLOW, AND VERY INSECURE!

scratch beneath 99% of humanity and you'll see an ocean of insecurities and hypocrisy! I can already smell some of you by just reading you

like I said, enjoy the ride call life while it lasts and shove these so called values you have up your ass because no one but you cares for them, at the end of the day this charade we call life is all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$

But you always remembered Daddys advice!

Your Daddys legacy seems to be as good as used toilet paper, cos you appear to have shit for brains!

Some of the guys here learned the hard way, fortunately most have now seen the light & stick around the forum learning & advising in equal measures. Why did you join?

My ears have suffered 5 hours of chronic pain since you showed up!

Yeah, an old dog! 37 & backpacking, when I backpacked twice round the world in my early 20's we thought backpackers over 30 were weirdos!

Hypocrites, fake, shallow & very insecure? Does that chip on your shoulder look big in that crazy mirror your looking at?

I smell BS strongly coming from your corner!

20 posts in one day after joining in January!!!

Quote: (05-26-2015 10:24 AM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

Even if you were a multi billionaire or a president of a major country or the pope, your ability to truly change the direction of society/culture would be very limited at best.

For the average individual, it's even worse. Trying to change the direction of society/culture is roughly equivalent to standing in front of a hurricane and attempting to change its direction by huffing and puffing.

On the other hand, if you are a truly dedicated father, and do your very best to create a stable home environment for your child, educate them, play with them, etc etc, then you can have a very large impact on the life of your child and how your child will interact with the world 40 years from now. That's where you are best off focusing your efforts.

Even if you are a multi-billionaire you won't change much unless you band together with other super-rich and try to rule it all. There is a group already at it for centuries, so I guess the cycle has to run it's course.

Individually it matters to you how you live your life. And it certainly matters to your next ones. This world will never be utopia - even if it is attained for a period, then you will already have part of the population plotting on how to topple paradise, so that they can rule it all - usually creating a worse place.

We are here about matters of civilization and union between man and woman. The nuclear family in that form has not appeared in the middle ages. Those customs are known since the Stone Age or maybe even before.

As far as what the meaning of life is - well that is a philosophical question since even grand civilizations are dust sooner or later. Ultimately you have to find the answer to that question yourself. Personally I think it's better to live your life to the max regardless of the choices you make. To me life is a school for Soul anyway, so we learn from the good and the bad decisions we make, so long as we make some.

And nuclear family is better than gay marriage and pushing of gay agenda.

Quote: (05-26-2015 10:24 AM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

If what you're worried about is your children (whether current or hypothetical future) and how they will interact with the world in 40 years, it is a very poor/inefficient use of time resources to try to alter the direction of society/culture or create some sort of conservative utopia.

Even if you were a multi billionaire or a president of a major country or the pope, your ability to truly change the direction of society/culture would be very limited at best.

For the average individual, it's even worse. Trying to change the direction of society/culture is roughly equivalent to standing in front of a hurricane and attempting to change its direction by huffing and puffing.

VVVV's words here remind me of something AnonymousBosch posted to me last night, about the internal nature of Millennial women.

I began the conversation by stating that if I get bored of a Millennial woman, then the easiest exit-strategy is HAPPINESS.

Bosch replied , "Why would this passive, self-loathing type want to be in a relationship with a successful, interesting, happy man?

Being the partner of a high value man would create expectations for her of having to raise her value to meet his: of working out; of dieting; of increased public-visibility; of needing to be socially-charming; of triggering that particular Millennial trait of craving positive attention whilst being threatened by the possibility of the potential negative attention that being noticed might bring; of living a more intense life with greater responsibility; and of the intimidating possibility of being taken outside her comfort zone and routine with the unpredictable passions of those who embrace living.

It's easier for her to either just bang and next him; or gather attention via public rejection; convince herself he would have dumped her eventually anyway; and binge watch whatever new Netflix series is out whilst staying single, with no responsibilities to anyone but herself.

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I can't help but notice how the first step VVVV uses is to lump the entire human race into a collective and permanent suckiness. Then he tells anyone else who dares declare that the entire human race doesn't suck, can overcome its suckiness, and can work for a better future not to do so. (His statement, once again, misses the point, because he thinks we're trying to alter the entire society - when we're really just trying to alter bits-and-pieces of the future, some of us for the sake of our children.) And ultimately, he's left with no responsibilities to anyone but himself - encouraging everyone else to follow his lead.

*shakes head*

Quote: (05-26-2015 10:48 AM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

VVVV's words here remind me of something AnonymousBosch posted to me last night, about the internal nature of Millennial women.

I began the conversation by stating that if I get bored of a Millennial woman, then the easiest exit-strategy is HAPPINESS.

Bosch replied , "Why would this passive, self-loathing type want to be in a relationship with a successful, interesting, happy man?

Being the partner of a high value man would create expectations for her of having to raise her value to meet his: of working out; of dieting; of increased public-visibility; of needing to be socially-charming; of triggering that particular Millennial trait of craving positive attention whilst being threatened by the possibility of the potential negative attention that being noticed might bring; of living a more intense life with greater responsibility; and of the intimidating possibility of being taken outside her comfort zone and routine with the unpredictable passions of those who embrace living.

It's easier for her to either just bang and next him; or gather attention via public rejection; convince herself he would have dumped her eventually anyway; and binge watch whatever new Netflix series is out whilst staying single, with no responsibilities to anyone but herself.

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I can't help but notice how the first step VVVV uses is to lump the entire human race into a collective and permanent suckiness. Then he tells anyone else who dares declare that the entire human race doesn't suck, can overcome its suckiness, and can work for a better future not to do so. (His statement, once again, misses the point, because he thinks we're trying to alter the entire society - when we're really just trying to alter bits-and-pieces of the future, some of us for the sake of our children.) And ultimately, he's left with no responsibilities to anyone but himself - encouraging everyone else to follow his lead.

*shakes head*

*facepalm*



Perhaps I didn't explain myself clearly, but you seem to have completely mischaracterized my words and misunderstood my point.

I never said the human race sucks, I never said it didn't.

Whether or not the human race sucks or is magnificent is completely besides my point.

My point is that from the point of view of an individual who cares about the sake of his children, you are extremely unlikely to positively effect the personal future of your individual children by focusing on what is wrong/right with any larger macro element of society/culture. However, by focusing on your individual child, reading to them, taking them to the museum, enriching their lives with love and languages, you are overwhelming likely to make a large positive impact on that child's life.

Quote: (05-26-2015 07:47 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  

The Irish catholic church isn't quite finished yet; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32856232

The referendum has enshrined gay marriage having equal rights to normal marriage in the Irish constitution, BUT has made it optional, not mandatory for the Catholic Church to carry out and bless gay weddings.

As the catholic faith considers homosexual activity to be a sin how long will it be before Irish gays have a push back against the priests, and try and force mandatory gay Catholic weddings???

I thought that was a given. The Roman Church or any other church for that matter, does not have the authority from scripture to recognise gay marriage, in fact it would be blasphemous to invoke the name of Christ.

Quote: (05-26-2015 11:13 AM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

However, by focusing on your individual child, reading to them, taking them to the museum, enriching their lives with love and languages, you are overwhelming likely to make a large positive impact on that child's life.

And what happens when the pro-gay agenda reflexively says that you're not allowed to say certain things to your child, or that certain exhibits in museums shouldn't exist because they're homophobic, that love is a lie because it's a social construct designed to oppress homosexuals?

Quote: (05-26-2015 12:10 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

And what happens when the pro-gay agenda reflexively says that you're not allowed to say certain things to your child, or that certain exhibits in museums shouldn't exist because they're homophobic, that love is a lie because it's a social construct designed to oppress homosexuals?

That sounds completely plausible and realistic. A fabulous and rainbow colored 1984 is right around the corner, and only brave cultural warriors can prevent it!

Clearly there is a greater danger to a child's well being from the hypothetical future actions of some imaginary homosexual bogeymen living in a different house/town/city/country, than from the concrete actions of a shitty parent 10 feet away who can't be bothered to focus his efforts where it matters.

Quote: (05-26-2015 01:11 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

Quote: (05-26-2015 12:10 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

And what happens when the pro-gay agenda reflexively says that you're not allowed to say certain things to your child, or that certain exhibits in museums shouldn't exist because they're homophobic, that love is a lie because it's a social construct designed to oppress homosexuals?

That sounds completely plausible and realistic. A fabulous and rainbow colored 1984 is right around the corner, and only brave cultural warriors can prevent it!

Clearly there is a greater danger to a child's well being from the hypothetical future actions of some imaginary homosexual bogeymen living in a different house/town/city/country, than from the concrete actions of a shitty parent 10 feet away who can't be bothered to focus his efforts where it matters.

You didn't read my words correctly.

The first thing you said could be summarized as, "Parents should spend time taking their kids to museums, teaching them about love, and so on."

My question was, "What happens when the pro-gay agenda creates laws that restrict what parents can teach their children about love?"

Your reply references "parents who are so shitty that they make no effort." - which is a complete switch of noun. Focus on what I actually said, and then answer my question. Don't resort to snark.

Quote: (05-26-2015 11:54 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

Quote: (05-26-2015 07:47 AM)Guitarman Wrote:  

The Irish catholic church isn't quite finished yet; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32856232

The referendum has enshrined gay marriage having equal rights to normal marriage in the Irish constitution, BUT has made it optional, not mandatory for the Catholic Church to carry out and bless gay weddings.

As the catholic faith considers homosexual activity to be a sin how long will it be before Irish gays have a push back against the priests, and try and force mandatory gay Catholic weddings???

I thought that was a given. The Roman Church or any other church for that matter, does not have the authority from scripture to recognise gay marriage, in fact it would be blasphemous to invoke the name of Christ.

Someone in my extended family (who is not in the Catholic Church) has a marriage license. They are also against gay marriage as per bible teachings. Although they said they won't it will be interesting how long it will take till they try force such people to marry gay people. At a guess Id say 1 - 2 years.

Quote: (05-26-2015 01:19 PM)MMX2010 Wrote:  

You didn't read my words correctly.

The first thing you said could be summarized as, "Parents should spend time taking their kids to museums, teaching them about love, and so on."

My question was, "What happens when the pro-gay agenda creates laws that restrict what parents can teach their children about love?"

Your reply references "parents who are so shitty that they make no effort." - which is a complete switch of noun. Focus on what I actually said, and then answer my question. Don't resort to snark.

I read them perfectly correctly.

Snark is an appropriate response to paranoid ramblings.

There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that a pro gay homosexual conspiracy exists and is not only planning but capable of implementing an agenda to restrict what parents can teach their children about love or about any other topic.

It's a surprising and shitty result, especially for a country as conservative as Ireland, but remember, gays are like Shakers; no reproduction from within. This enthusiasm will dwindle once the non-gay 99% get pissed off at having to subsidize surrogacy or adoption-that will be the next step, money on it.
Gay marriage can't be opposed on 'moral' grounds since nobody really accepts them anymore-the paedophile priest scandals have really undermined the church, especially in Ireland.
So, someone with a platform could oppose it with a greater success rate by talking about issues like:

-the added costs. If gays can marry, children will be their next ideal. Leaving aside whether or not they should parent, you can make a more compelling case against it by pointing out tax hikes to support fertility research-let the same-sex lobbby bear the financial weight of this-or try to agitate for tax support- and it'll become swiftly obvious that these marriages are not a sustainable.

-the legal issues. By letting a government decide what is and isn't 'marriage', everyone who wants to marry will get bitten in the arse down the line. The definition will be shifted, either to allow less savoury unions or to create new sources of tax revenue, divorce opportunities, etc. Even gays would oppose that if pitched to them right.

-pointing out that marriage is a civil right, but gay marriage is a civil liberty-opposing it isn't a bad thing; it's on a par with opposing polygamy.

- the benefits of straight, two-parent families. Don't attack gay couples for being worse, promote straight couples as better. Do it right and the message doesn't have to be articulated.

-encouraging and promoting the idea of married clergy. A guy who never holds a job can't advise anyone on family life. The current church is like a doctor who makes a diagnosis by looking at the textbook and not the patient. Let priests teach or do social work, since those fields are bottoming out and attracting the incompetent and the downright sociopathic, and they'll do good in their community as well as gaining the AUTHORITY to tell others what marriage should and shouldn't consist of

As unpleasant as it might be, this is only a stepping stone for those interest groups who funded the 'yes' campaign. Attack them too wherever possible.

Quote: (05-26-2015 01:23 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

Someone in my extended family (who is not in the Catholic Church) has a marriage license. They are also against gay marriage as per bible teachings. Although they said they won't it will be interesting how long it will take till they try force such people to marry gay people. At a guess Id say 1 - 2 years.

I think there should be a clear difference between the duties of civil and religious authorities. Civil authorities should be required to serve all citizens equally. Religious authorities, unless they are acting in a civil capacity or being funded by the state, should be free to discriminate as they see fit.

I also think people like that are a bit interesting. First off, the bible is a work of fiction that is the collective product of many different authors' imaginations. It has been edited, translated, altered, etc, numerous times.

However, if you truly believe in the bible, and base your life on biblical truth as being absolute, you can't logically pick and choose which parts to obey. It is God's word, and therefore 100% truth.

So yes, Leviticus 20:13, does indeed say "If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

But, Exodus 21:7 says that selling your daughter into slavery is permitted: "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go free as male slaves do."

And, according to Exodus 35:2, if you work on Sunday, you deserve the death penalty: "On six days work may be done, but the seventh day shall be sacred to you as the sabbath of complete rest to the LORD. Anyone who does work on that day shall be put to death."

And according to Leviticus 11:7-8, bacon is a big no no: "and the pig, which does indeed have hoofs and is cloven-footed, but does not chew the cud and is therefore unclean for you. Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall not touch; they are unclean for you."

Also, no cross breeding of animals, multiple crop rotations, or wearing clothes of two different threads is allowed according to Leviticus 19:19: "Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kinds of animals. Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material."

Crap, and no lobster, crabs, or shellfish either according to Leviticus 11:12: "Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be regarded as unclean by you"

Quote:"dagon Wrote:

if any of you were as exceptional as you claim, you wouldn't be on a forum about whore mongers

Quote: (05-26-2015 01:43 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that a pro gay homosexual conspiracy exists and is not only planning but capable of implementing an agenda to restrict what parents can teach their children about love or about any other topic.

Mate I'm not sure you are right here.

It's not a conspiracy, it's an open collective drive.

Go back to the scenarios I had pointed to earlier.

You fuck your wife, and the gays fuck their "husbands" in their bedrooms. Okay, I don't care too much in this case.

But then the gay's adopt children, or use modern genetics to have children.

Biological problem:

When the gays pass on their own DNA it goes against the reason nature creates gays. They are not supposed to pass on their line. They are not supposed to overpopulate and create more competition in the sexual market.

Social problem:

When the gays either adopt or have their own kid, then this kid will be in school with your kid. To make this kid feel more comfortable, gay normalcy will be taughed from kindergarten onwards. You kid is supposed to remain inoocent, childlike, and free from any sexual confusion till probably middle school.


The gay parents will invite your kid over for a play date. Your kid will be confused as fuck. You can not decline this invitation for fear of being named a bigot. If your kid repeats any of your bigoted misogynistic transphobic words while in the presence of the gays, then you will be shunned from society, and might be put into prison. Maybe they can take your kids away from you for raising them in an ignorant and toxic environment. Am I reaching here? I don't think I am reaching too much.

Now imagine it is not you, but a very conservative couple. You have atleast seen the world, and might be okay with sending you kid on a play date at a gay couples' house. But for these [probably religious] traditional people this is horror! Even worse, imagine it's not an American couple at all, but an educated but very traditional couple from some very conservative country. The foreign couple will have no idea how to behave in the PC gay culture and will probably have taught their kid some pretty "homophobic" things. They might even blurt something out themselves.

What if this couple trying to make it in this strange land has their child taken from them and the parents put in prison? They have planned their whole life and saved money to come to America and now their entire life is ruined just because the gay police couldn't respect their conservative culture.

I think you underestimate the intolerance on the other side.

I don't think this is reaching. I personally know of immigrant couples that beat their kids to discipline them and had these kids taken away. The school teacher reports them and they have their kids taken away and the husband is in jail. I personally think beating kids is totally wrong, but you see how the Government is out of control here. I don't think it is a stretch to say the government will implement a similar approach when it comes to homophobia by branding it as unhealthy, a mental illness, or violent.

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I think I see what you're getting at Slim. In your view, society has a vested interest in promoting positive parenthood and restricting parenthood from those deemed unfit, in this case homosexuals.

Fair enough. So what to do about the massive number of heterosexuals who are completely unfit to be parents and are breeding like rabbits? If it is against nature for homosexuals to carry on their line, then isn't it also against nature for addicts, retards, the violent, the lazy/obese, and the mentally ill to pass on their genes?

There are plenty of low lifes unable to care for themselves popping out children they can't afford or properly raise. They would be turned away as unfit by an animal shelter if they tried to adopt a stray dog, yet on they go, breeding away.

Also, who gets to decide who qualifies as a fit parent and an unfit parent? And how would this be enforced? It opens up the door to giving the state a vast set of new powers, which is almost always a bad idea.

Quote: (05-26-2015 01:57 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Quote:"dagon Wrote:

if any of you were as exceptional as you claim, you wouldn't be on a forum about whore mongers

Whoa - this is not a forum of whore mongers. So much hate in so few posts.

There is no homosexual conspiracy. They're out in the open with it. The other day I was in a waiting room that had MSNBC playing. Of the four or five stories they covered while I was there, three were about gays. One about gay veterans, one about gay marriage in Ireland, and another about the Secretary of Defense telling the Boy Scouts that if they don't let gays be troop leaders the government will force them to.

In the latter story, they interviewed a former boy scout who's gay. To my surprise, the host asked him what he thought about the criticism that gays will apply to be troop leaders just to be near and in charge of young boys. He stuttered with a deer in the headlights look in his eyes, then completely dodged the question. She didn't press him on it.

Gays make up about three or four percent of the American population yet have an inordinate amount of representation in media, in the news, etc. Gay issues are just another part of the cultural marxist left's identity politics bullshit. It is all part of the new religion in which the state is God and straight men and happily married women, particularly white Christians, are the devil and responsible for all of society's ills in one way or another.

Quote: (05-26-2015 02:28 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

There is no homosexual conspiracy. They're out in the open with it. The other day I was in a waiting room that had MSNBC playing. Of the four or five stories they covered while I was there, three were about gays. One about gay veterans, one about gay marriage in Ireland, and another about the Secretary of Defense telling the Boy Scouts that if they don't let gays be troop leaders the government will force them to.

In the latter story, they interviewed a former boy scout who's gay. To my surprise, the host asked him what he thought about the criticism that gays will apply to be troop leaders just to be near and in charge of young boys. He stuttered with a deer in the headlights look in his eyes, then completely dodged the question. She didn't press him on it.

Gays make up about three or four percent of the American population yet have an inordinate amount of representation in media, in the news, etc. Gay issues are just another part of the cultural marxist left's identity politics bullshit. It is all part of the new religion in which the state is God and straight men and happily married women, particularly white Christians, are the devil and responsible for all of society's ills in one way or another.

Yeah - read about that - they deliberately promote gay boy scout leaders which will destroy the boyscouts or make it a haven for pedophiles and gays. Anything that can potentially teach young men some kind of masculine or useful skills must be gone.

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Quote: (05-26-2015 01:57 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

Quote: (05-26-2015 01:23 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

Someone in my extended family (who is not in the Catholic Church) has a marriage license. They are also against gay marriage as per bible teachings. Although they said they won't it will be interesting how long it will take till they try force such people to marry gay people. At a guess Id say 1 - 2 years.

I also think people like that are a bit interesting. First off, the bible is a work of fiction that is the collective product of many different authors' imaginations. It has been edited, translated, altered, etc, numerous times.

However, if you truly believe in the bible, and base your life on biblical truth as being absolute, you can't logically pick and choose which parts to obey. It is God's word, and therefore 100% truth.

Some of these laws, the laws of Moses, were completed after Jesus did his ministry work. They are no longer valid are were only intended for a certain time that has now long past. Not following them does not mean you have altered anything. They are no longer relevant after the ministry work of Jesus.

Some of the things you quote still stand: reverence of the Sabbath (Saturday not Sunday)and not eating unholy meats like Crab and Pork. And of course no gay marriage. No that doesn't mean we should kill people who break these laws, again that's the law of Moses, but it does mean it is still a sin.

You have been blasting on this thread against the bible but your understanding of it isn't the best. You are also switching between the Bible and religion a lot while the two are very different things. The Bible particularly warns against false prophets and those who do evil in the name of God. The idea of mainstream religions doing terrible things is not surprising and is predicted by the bible. I think this is blinding you to evaluate the Bible separate of that.

I get your view that you see all the damage that religion has done so surely the whole thing is a scam. The two (religion and the Bible) are quite separate and the failings of one does not mean the falsehood of the other.