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Quote: (07-29-2013 04:42 PM)slubu Wrote:  

A bit too drunk to read the other comments, but not going so well. These bitches are not down for fucking. We promised breakfast but have no food, haha. They are all cockblocking any advances from anyone. To the point I rather post here than try with any of these girls, despite the fact that they are in our apartment.

Also, I had 4 espressos to try to sober up. Now I will be awake all night, fuck.

Lesson: Don't go out on a Monday night in Tomsk.

Sorry to hear that. Too bad you don't know a local dude to occupy the third one. Actually, doing something else like posting on rvf might give them the hint that they are boring you and maybe they'll come around. Or is that too wishful thinking?

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I've been rocking Ditas when I hit the Standard pool party. They're hard to pull off in Hollywood; the only cats I see that can really pull it off are Euro dudes and rappers. You'd think Hollywood would be a breeding ground for good fashion but that's the furthest thing from the truth.

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Quote: (07-29-2013 02:21 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Come on guys, it was a joke.

Hell, I said "French sandals".

I don't even know what those are.

As a side note, Prosal and I both like Dita. I hooked my first pair of their sunglasses back in the late 90's.

We have a wide selection of emoticons that can clearly show that you are joking (or any other state). As a long standing member, you've seen more inconsequential beefs than anyone, and know how easily they can start.
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Quote: (07-29-2013 04:42 PM)slubu Wrote:  

A bit too drunk to read the other comments, but not going so well. These bitches are not down for fucking. We promised breakfast but have no food, haha. They are all cockblocking any advances from anyone. To the point I rather post here than try with any of these girls, despite the fact that they are in our apartment.

Also, I had 4 espressos to try to sober up. Now I will be awake all night, fuck.

Lesson: Don't go out on a Monday night in Tomsk.


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Reason why I ask is because i'm one of these guys whose a slow starter and likes to converse with a set for a long period of time before I grab numbers and set-up dates.

Why do you think like that? Why grabbing numbers and then setting up dates? Why not try to fuck them the first time you meet them out (assuming at night/club/bar)? "


I quoted your earlier example as situations like that probably happen too much even to the most experienced players on this thread. So to minimize the chance of going to sleep at 6am alone, hungover after spending mucho dinero on table service don't you think your chances would have gotten better if instead you had met those 3 girls via day-game and had taken them bowling and to a sushi place then made out at the local park and set-up a 2nd date for next day? I believe your chances would have improved for getting the notch?

Which provides an answer your earlier questions...the reason why I go for numbers and dates is to set-up something that will hopefully last me for the rest of my trip (I believe Vorkuta did this very successfully in Nice) and will help me get solid leads for future trips overseas, such as adventure travel with a local girl I met or fun dates during my trip in country X. If a ONS happens statistically the chance is probably less of seeing that girl again than if you have invested multiple date's in her. Also, I like to think of myself as a bit of a gentleman, I suppose I am guilty of White Knighting...[Image: huh.gif]
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Slubu is into ONS. He doesn't want a relationshiP.
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Slubu, It is funny now after that threesome, you are hitting the basic ethos of most of the girls there in the provinces.

As for the clothing talk. I don't pay too much attention to the brands. I find often the more high end men's clothes to be quite bland, but amongst that you find some quite idiosyncratic stuff, which is what I will pay for. I have a certain style and a look, and to find what I want, I have to go hunting, through designer outlet bargain bins and find obscure little shops that have what I want.
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Going out in Russia from Sun to Tue is chassing ambulances..
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Quote: (07-29-2013 01:41 PM)Menace Wrote:  

So in provincial Russia are clubs the only place to meet girls at night? No lounges? Bowling alleys? Is there a central square where people hang out? How about an English corner (I know talent won't be amazing)? Is there any place where the pick up is consistently going wrong?

No, we have met girls at cafes too and restaurants. There is also a central square where they sit, but they are usually in mixed groups there. I don't know about bowling alleys...I went once in Kiev and aside from the two girls I went with, there were only 3 other guys there.

Quote: (07-29-2013 04:42 PM)slubu Wrote:  

Lesson: Don't go out on a Monday night in Tomsk.

I step back from this comment. Even though places were empty, my friend got two numbers, I got one number (and a fake one, haha), and we brought back 3 girls. Granted, we didn't bang any of them, and really 1 was only bangable. But had for example 1 of them left, 1 get occupied by my friend, something could have happened.
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Quote: (07-29-2013 04:47 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Sorry to hear that. Too bad you don't know a local dude to occupy the third one. Actually, doing something else like posting on rvf might give them the hint that they are boring you and maybe they'll come around. Or is that too wishful thinking?

My buddy and I have a third guy we always roll with, the one we went to Iceland with. We curse his name everytime we run into a group of 3.

Quote: (07-29-2013 08:45 PM)BCZalgyris Wrote:  

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Reason why I ask is because i'm one of these guys whose a slow starter and likes to converse with a set for a long period of time before I grab numbers and set-up dates.

Why do you think like that? Why grabbing numbers and then setting up dates? Why not try to fuck them the first time you meet them out (assuming at night/club/bar)? "


I quoted your earlier example as situations like that probably happen too much even to the most experienced players on this thread. So to minimize the chance of going to sleep at 6am alone, hungover after spending mucho dinero on table service don't you think your chances would have gotten better if instead you had met those 3 girls via day-game and had taken them bowling and to a sushi place then made out at the local park and set-up a 2nd date for next day? I believe your chances would have improved for getting the notch?

Which provides an answer your earlier questions...the reason why I go for numbers and dates is to set-up something that will hopefully last me for the rest of my trip (I believe Vorkuta did this very successfully in Nice) and will help me get solid leads for future trips overseas, such as adventure travel with a local girl I met or fun dates during my trip in country X. If a ONS happens statistically the chance is probably less of seeing that girl again than if you have invested multiple date's in her. Also, I like to think of myself as a bit of a gentleman, I suppose I am guilty of White Knighting...[Image: huh.gif]

I don't disagree with you on if that had happened, met them somewhere else. But since this was during night game, I stand by my strategy of going for sex and if not, settling for less. Last night I went for sex as always, and came away with the number. So I lost nothing going for sex, and could have gained the goal itself, sex.

If not these gilrs I would have still been out until late going for other girls.

I understand your point though. And in Kiev I did that to a degree and didn't push as hard. However we are less than a week now, so time constraints. In fact we have double dates set up for tonight and tomorrow night from previous leads (that mind you I tried to fuck the same night).

We are going to try daygame today. This should be interesting because I talk to more girls in one night than I EVER have in the daytime, so time to be a rookie again.

Quote: (07-29-2013 10:17 PM)tiggaling Wrote:  

Slubu, It is funny now after that threesome, you are hitting the basic ethos of most of the girls there in the provinces.

Maybe yes, but I still think there are sluts out there. Only two nights ago I banged a girl same night I met her.

Quote: (07-29-2013 10:54 PM)ChrisGambi Wrote:  

Going out in Russia from Sun to Tue is chassing ambulances..

Chasing that ambulance got me my threesome a few Sundays ago...
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Quote: (07-30-2013 01:38 AM)slubu Wrote:  

I talk to more girls in one night than I EVER have in the daytime,

Slubu, don't you think that your tactic (to hit night after night every single girl in the city's best clubs until you have two or three that bite) is a bit prejudicial for your reputation in a provincial city as Tomsk ?

I mean, if you chat up every single girl in a club, everybody observes you (especially if you are the only guy in the place wearing a suit) and you are quickly labeled as a sex predator. In a city like Moscow or like Piter, where there is hundreds of bars and clubs, it's not prejudicial, but by applying that tactic in smaller provincial cities, which are very much like fishbowls and where there is most often only two or three "in" clubs where girls go, you quickly develop a reputation that will hinder your success.
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Got a buddy of his correspondence. Both are professional journalists, quite well-known, so that the text below will be interesting to read. The story is one of them, Yuri Pankov, for some reason, decided to spend a vacation in East Siberia, according to the letter, with her ​​daughter, and wrote a text in the form of a diary.

The purpose of these notes is unknown to me. Maybe it will publish, maybe not. I read it, they asked if he could relay to Learn, was told that yes, you can. Judging by the carelessness of the text, in fact, a living diary. Next - a copy of the diary of the Jura.

Brotherhood of the end
(From the diary of a woodcutter)

The fourth week travel to Siberia. And daughter were in Krasnoyarsk, Abakan (Khakassia), Minusinsk Kyzyl (Tuva), Irkutsk, Bratsk, Angarsk, Winter, Ulan-Ude. Reached even Ivolginsky datsans (the spiritual center of Russian Buddhists.)
The Krasnoyarsk Territory raced to 800 kilometers a day at speeds of up to 140 per hour.
Once on the road somewhere under the Kyzyl from our car did not even have time to dodge cant kites that were grazing peacefully on a carrion. Carrion in the end it became more, but now have to change the windshield.

Sometimes for several hours, we in the dark heh * achili the steppe or semi-desert. So it was in Khakassia, Tuva, and in the foothills of Tibet.
It's very beautiful. That is sooo beautiful. Nowhere in the world there is no such thing.

But some negative I still noticed: COUNTRY DIED.
Without exaggeration. But no one noticed.
Just forget about it a long time ago.

From Ulan-Ude daughter went by train to Moscow, and I went in Angarsk, where I met an old friend. In the end, we drove north through the different cities - Winter, Usole Siberian Sajansk, Tulun.

Now I'm in the Bratsk. For the fifth day.

It is beyond description. I have the feeling that I was in the early 90s. This is reflected in everything and, above all, an incredible amount bandyuganov and drunk. Churches not in principle. The first thing that seemed suspicious, it's incredible popularity taxi. City the size of the Moscow District and the population of 260 thousand people just flooded with them. In the yard of the building can be seen 2-3 of the park, pulling up or departing machine checkered.

Then it turned out that the common people here go by taxi, even for bread, (as in "Diamond Hand"), because in all seriousness afraid of thieves and murderers. Taxi - the most common public transport. At either end of town bused for 60 rubles. Cause the car on the phone and she literally pulls for 2-3 minutes. After midnight, the town is just dying out.

In winter, in the middle of the day can disrupt the passer with a fur hat or remove a sheepskin coat. In summer, the order of the selected mobile phones, pluck gold jewelry chain. All that can disrupt, take away etc.

A teacher in a rural school earns 3.5 thousand rubles. Zamglavvracha sister city hospital - 10 thousand

Sober until you've seen. Taiga cut mercilessly. In Bratsk district forest remains, according to the mayor, for 30 years. (It's all cut down by "Ilim Pulp", in which he worked Medvedev, and that in the 90 years spent on the deal
sale of shares in this company to Americans. So everything here belongs to them.)

One word of Siberia and the Far East lost one. Everything here is the Chinese curse, but realize that apart from them as nothing good can be expected to occur. Good - the husband of a Chinese work in Chinese companies, Chinese fruit, Chinese restaurants, holiday in China.

Books for some reason no one is interested. Although the station Irkutsk managed to buy a collection of V. Rasputin with his autograph for 150 rubles. Best gift from a trip to Siberia did not come up.

Above the town blaring siren periodically, during the war. This is informed that the Bratsk timber processing plant (BLPK) begins to release waste. Through the pipe, stupid - right into the sky. The plant is located near the center of the city. Smoke coming all the time, but when we heard the sirens, eerie howl begins release of some real chemistry, and the citizens immediately close the windows, heal their noses and all. The stench is wild. Comes in waves. Reeks worse than a public toilet. Blevotno-something sour.

(Very sad when it's stench covers the city in light holiday Sept. 1, the Day of Knowledge. Babes in white shirt and tie, with the colors go on the streets, smelly garbage). On the other side of town is Braz - Bratsk Aluminum Plant.
From there, just keep belching thick smoke as some of CHP. And all - of the city. On the third hand - Bratsk hydroelectric plant. There's nothing going on. But there are always waiting some nightmare like the one that happened a year ago at the power station. On the fourth side - the so-called Fraternal sea.

Remember the "Farewell to the mothers' V. Rasputin? Here in '67 were flooded hundreds of villages, cemeteries. However, the people here in full fish and not disdain. (For comparison, in the so-called Krasnoyarsk sea fish from the flooded cemeteries can not catch).

The average salary is 8,000 rubles. Saw children kneeling at the railroad crossing and begging. Putin and Medvedev in these parts is simply called "n * wild."

In general, mestechno wildly depressing. But it is very interesting. Managed to shoot a 3-room apartment, but without a washing machine and a terrible electric stove. But there is a jacuzzi in the bathroom).) The house, by the way, Khrushchev's five-storey building, but the apartment was made alterations. Studio, damn it! All the fun - 8000 per month. I will stay here a couple of weeks. Poputeshestvuet, ponaslazhdatsya communication with the natives and native.

Was in several regional cities and villages. Oh-oh-oh-oh-oh. Such poverty is simply impossible to imagine. The local doctor told me that some children go to school without underwear ........ Scary? In the local store sold lionozovskoe milk "Wimm-Bill-Dann" on 46 rubles. per liter. Tangerines - 150 rubles. But a lot of cheap vodka.

I completely forgot! The sex ratio is - 1 to 3. That is, the three women, one man! So every now and mother and daughter are living with one guy. Full of mothers aged 15-16 years. I plakal. Because of that a lot of lesbians.

Oh, I forgot to say. Winter was in town. Ruled mark - United Russia. For the second year boarded a local hospital. The city's population - 34,000 people. In the year 600-700 children are born. Women forced to give birth in ambulances who bought the desired day. Who does not have time - at home. To the nearest towns - Angarsk, Kuitun, Irkutsk - 150-200 kilometers. Sajansk - 24 km. But not everyone has a car and taxi money. In general, do not drive.

And more. During the so-called Fraternal sea, many villages in the forest. The distance between them at 100-700 kilometers. On the road - by ferry - again on rough roads. Some villages are very small. Some - 1000-2000 persons.
If a person dies, the body must take in Bratsk. It has to be something to load, drop off the ferry, ferry to the other side, to bring to the morgue, to register, and then deliver the same way across the sea to his home village to the cemetery.
This trip is a round trip in the company of the deceased is wild bucks by local standards, and takes about three days. Therefore, it is simply not register the dead, buried in the earth for a reason.

320 of its outstanding adult residents of one village, only 200 survived. In any kind of dead grandmothers still send in retirement, it is divided local and drink away. And their votes in the elections, United Russia is repurchased, the Liberal Democratic Party. The fact that the local electoral committee may consist entirely of relatives. They receive from the party agitators bribes 50-60 thousand (at all), and at the end of the day the election present themselves as a mark of the dead and put a tick opposite to pay a lot.

Did you know that we are not electrified Siberia? Wires are stretched so far, although a lot of power, and the most powerful in Europe: Sayano-Shushenskaya, Fraternal, Ust-Ilim, Irkutsk. Build Boguchanskaya. But here's the wire under the Soviet regime did not have time to take everywhere. A edrossam care. Line is pulled just to the west. But nothing. On camp (even at Baikal!) Sometimes give light to the cabins of diesel for 3-4 hours in the evening and in the morning for an hour. Although some electricity, of course. But there is room per day is about four thousand. My daughter brought a kerosene burner in a room and it warmed tea.

Everywhere differently heh * ovo uncomfortable, but equally beautiful. This "beautiful" removes all negative. But if you imagine the life of so-called "Siberians" - that is such a horror, it's better not to think. And, I was here 24 years ago. Then, though cursed life, but trying to improve it. And now everyone is aimed only at draining money from nature. Woodcutters who herachat weeks in the forest, "Ilim Pulp" pays 30,000 rubles.
But in this case, in agreement with the district administration, no longer pays any (!) Funds to local social programs, to the roads, the restoration of the forest. His way, there remained for 30 years. I read about it in an interview with the mayor of fraternal district. He hopes that the forest will grow. But this is not true. Cedar is not restored so quickly. I specifically looked up information on crop sites.

All for coming here from Moscow is very expensive. In this case, the conditions of Moscow's real for any grandmother did not create and do not buy. Gyms and swimming pools, sun decks here. And if there is, it is only for children during the school year. If you want to drink coffee, the local eatery and cafe offers you only the "Nescafe 3 in 1" of bags. Swill, which consume life-threatening.

In the only place where Bratsk brewed coffee (called the institution "chip", a cup costs 250 rubles). This is - a place for the local elite, and her children. Here is spinning local "golden youth".
But the sites, however, are very beautiful!!

And here is fantastic names of people with whom I was able to encounter:

Olga Figure
Stepan Irinovich
Peter Orlovich
Gaydarov Gaidar Mamedovich
Arthur Marynovych Fortune
A girl named Vereneya
Oksana Sloth (O.Len)

Everyday life here - a real feat, compare flight into space without a spacesuit. Local men working in the manner or in the "Ilim Pulp" impotent for 40 years. All the woodcutters, of course, no arms - no legs. On the tarmac, connecting the city with BAM worn, heavy-duty belonging to the Americans ("Ilim Pulp"), "Black loggers" and the Chinese. They take out "roundwood". By BAM dragged to China or to Vladivostok. And Braz for processing raw materials brought from Australia. Delusion of some kind, right?

Buryatia studied. Buryatka, believe me, it is better Buryats. But neither the one nor the other can not drink. Alcohol knocks them instantly. But they are not particularly drawn to the vodka. That's all from Russian. This we do as solder and solder. But buryatka ... Mmmm ... I'm not kidding. They are wildly beautiful to 30-32 years. Very neat little faces. While we were once in the taxi on about. Olkhon (it was very close), one is a half hour sitting on my lap. Uuuuuu But I did this ... Just be very closely.

The women are all about-the-very spoiled. And not only in Buryatia. I already wrote that in the Irkutsk region, Bratsk guys really lacking. So every now and mother and daughter are living with one guy. Yesterday I even met one such. She lives with her mother, step-father and step-father of the child. Can you imagine? ...
Full of mothers aged 15-16 years. They are afraid to have an abortion because the pre-revolutionary gynecology, and after the "procedure" sterility guaranteed.
A lot of lesbians. Unthinkable! And not just among the young. Local men after 40 years - without exception impotent. What remains of Russian beauties.

Churches in the city for five days I have not seen. Only in a remote area. In short, I go and cry ...

Commissar Zima - the man except that no saint. He has every recruit goes to the office, and on the neck, in the bag, next to a cross, a piece of paper with a mobile number of the commissar. If you will take the fleet or something by today's standards jungle type of Kaliningrad, Pskov, or bullying, or what, he can always call the Colonel. He will intercede.

The local people are very poor. You will not believe. We commissar 140 people took to the army in the spring, and the reserve - 80 people - have remained at home. Almost all because of the so-called "Malnutrition". Little weight in the normal growth. Although most here do not believe it (!), The army - salvation. Snatch a guy from the criminal environment, give breath a large family of an unemployed freeloader, etc.

History repeats itself, when the Red Army during the collectivization was a salvation for peasant boys. All were fed, clothed, shod. That's life was! Is not that of the dispossessed in the villages. So now the whole Siberia - one big village of the dispossessed.

The people ceased to breed cows, as their mouths nowhere. It is in Siberia for you! Yes, just the land framed by someone in the property and is surrounded by barbed wire. And before that it was a field for grazing ...

August 30

Two years ago, just as of August 30, I went to a concert of Madonna in the hero city of Nice, on the Cote d'Azur. This year, on August 30, I met with the military commissar, who fussed about the fate of two toilets for the local Zima kindergarten. There's just no toilets and children scat just on the floor, for zanovesochkoy

From a conversation with a military commissar:
- Yes, you look like a living officials on what cars they drive, where to buy clothes that they eat, where the rest. How long it will last! This is not just unfair, it's mean! It is pure betrayal of his people. No. This is treason! You, the military is called "treason."
- Hmm. Treason area-wide? Probably. In Moscow, officials imprisoned for treason in the form of a transfer of state secrets to foreign intelligence services. Are you all serious. Betrayal - it's official refusal to decide on repair or replacement of the hospital toilet in kindergarten.

A technicals in kindergarten receives a salary of 2.5 thousand. What is the technicals? In our - cleaning lady.

August 31
morning.

The girls here are right, meet guys for fun. No further calculation is not. Give to everyone who likes. Without obligation. "What is sex without commitment?" - Asked my friend Victor local Komsomol Lena. - "It means without a condom," - she said judiciously.

Over a lifetime, Lena had time to visit only in the small town of Vihorevka, cities Tanguy, Winter and Irkutsk, where he wanted to enter into inyaz. But flew, and went to a local college on fraternal correspondence, which trains teachers of elementary grades.

September 1
morning.

On the streets of the city today is especially festive. Lots of drunk kids and their parents. September 1. Day of Knowledge ...

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Amazing find, I wish I had the guts and time to go that deep.
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Quote: (07-29-2013 04:19 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

A funny story once happened to me in EL DORADO (FSU electronic chain). I listened to a sales man try to tell me Hoover is a Chinese brand and that Chinese = bad(they hate asians?). After I listened to his crap i politely informed him that Hoover was an American brand originally and they are the ones who invented the vacuum cleaner. I also told him almost every product or part in the store is made in china.

What did the salesman say?

And yes, it amazes me how FSU women are so brand conscious, spend all the money they god, and are consumerists on steroids. They get offended when i point out that showing off is tacky and of bad taste.

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I think a lot of the problems/issues slubu is facing comes from pursuing fast bangs in the East. For every ONS, he will have to endure quite a bit.

With a more slow roll dating here in Ukraine, based on day game, you don't experience these things. For example, flaking wouldn't happen much.

As long as the costs are acceptable to him for the reward, he must simply soldier on. But if he does not like these issues, then some adjustments are in order.
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^ it reads as if slubu is running text book American girl game in the east. I wouldn't be the one with a good answer as to that being the right or wrong move though.
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great thread.

let me add photos of 2 sisters (!) from Tomsk I have banged back in 2009, not a threesome, banged one after another in the same night and the thinner attractive one another time in the morning. Then again the week later something similar.
crazy things do happen with (not only) russian girls and slubu story looks even less crazy than this.

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Quote: (07-30-2013 07:55 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

^ it reads as if slubu is running text book American girl game in the east.

+1. The psyche of Russian women is especially deep and complex and I think requires much study and immersion to understand where they are coming from. They are also unpredictable and difficult to understand. In other words they are a helluva lot more mysterious than your American chicka, who is comparatively easy to read and is quite often up for being pumped and dumped.

I'd say the Russian view toward sexuality is much more complex, layered and individual. But I will say that there is a strong romantic element in Russian women, not all who are such transactional and shallow money hungry slags as many people might think. I'm not calling myself an expert, but I know Russian women love romance and are very receptive to it.

Remember, there is an old saying that Russian women have that goes, "Die, but do not kiss without love" That's the kind of historical cultural background and attitude you are working with here.
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Quote: (07-30-2013 08:47 AM)tiggaling Wrote:  

Quote: (07-30-2013 07:55 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

^ it reads as if slubu is running text book American girl game in the east.

+1. The psyche of Russian women is especially deep and complex and I think requires much study and immersion to understand where they are coming from. They are also unpredictable and difficult to understand. In other words they are a helluva lot more mysterious than your American chicka, who is comparatively easy to read and is quite often up for being pumped and dumped.

I'd say the Russian view toward sexuality is much more complex, layered and individual. But I will say that there is a strong romantic element in Russian women, not all who are such transactional and shallow money hungry slags as many people might think. I'm not calling myself an expert, but I know Russian women love romance and are very receptive to it.

Remember, there is an old saying that Russian women have that goes, "Die, but do not kiss without love" That's the kind of historical cultural background and attitude you are working with here.

+1 - flowers go a hell of a long way here, and most of the women I've dated have been romantic in nature and frankly pretty nice. Yeah there are a ton of sponsor-seeking gold diggers but you can spot them easily at the clubs & bars.

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Quote: (07-30-2013 01:58 AM)Prosal Wrote:  

Quote: (07-30-2013 01:38 AM)slubu Wrote:  

I talk to more girls in one night than I EVER have in the daytime,

Slubu, don't you think that your tactic (to hit night after night every single girl in the city's best clubs until you have two or three that bite) is a bit prejudicial for your reputation in a provincial city as Tomsk ?

I mean, if you chat up every single girl in a club, everybody observes you (especially if you are the only guy in the place wearing a suit) and you are quickly labeled as a sex predator. In a city like Moscow or like Piter, where there is hundreds of bars and clubs, it's not prejudicial, but by applying that tactic in smaller provincial cities, which are very much like fishbowls and where there is most often only two or three "in" clubs where girls go, you quickly develop a reputation that will hinder your success.

I do not, for several reasons. First, I don't chat up every girl in the club...either my friend or I will hook a group between one of our 1st through 5th approaches. Second, a lot of my approaches involve asking for a light, so even if someone was watching, it looks innocent.

Now even if it does appear that way, that I'm chatting up many girls, then a few things. One, I do not care as I'm only here less than two weeks and I'll probably never come back. Next, good. I've found in FSU jealousy is one of the best tactics and in Ukraine and even here in Tomsk I've seen girls get jealous if we are talking to others. Finally, in small cities like this it has worked for me in the past, making as many connections as possible. In Iceland, my bang came from a group I met out on the street that I invited over (didn't come), then saw them another night and again told them to come over (they came, no bang), and on the third time I ran into them - keep in mind all random run ins because of the small nature of the city - I got the bang. So I don't mind running into them again.

Quote: (07-30-2013 07:42 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

I think a lot of the problems/issues slubu is facing comes from pursuing fast bangs in the East. For every ONS, he will have to endure quite a bit.

With a more slow roll dating here in Ukraine, based on day game, you don't experience these things. For example, flaking wouldn't happen much.

As long as the costs are acceptable to him for the reward, he must simply soldier on. But if he does not like these issues, then some adjustments are in order.

I can't say I know Siberia as well as other places, but I find it very different so far than Kiev. Maybe in Tomsk it's the youth/college town, maybe in Novo it was the fact the city sucked so badly, but they seem to be much sweeter, relaxed, honest and less calculating than their Ukrainian counterparts (in Kiev at least).

I thought Ukraine would be Russia-light, so far it's been the other way around. It will be interesting to see how different Moscow will be from here. I plan to slow it down over there since I have three weeks.

It's funny, my buddy and I sat down today and wrote out all our leads, prospects, failures, etc. Try to see what is going on and if we should adjust. He is struggling a bit more than me now, and I told him I think it's because he just gets girls' numbers right away without building any rapport at night. And no girl here has refused to give her #, so they naturally will flake more. Let's see how this goes forward.

Quote: (07-30-2013 07:55 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

^ it reads as if slubu is running text book American girl game in the east. I wouldn't be the one with a good answer as to that being the right or wrong move though.

To the extent I can be a bit cocky, I try but the language barrier is hard. I touch a lot more here, and also put forth a more provider vibe too. And also I'm not afraid to text next day and use abundant smiley faces. ))
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"It's funny, my buddy and I sat down today and wrote out all our leads, prospects, failures, etc. Try to see what is going on and if we should adjust. He is struggling a bit more than me now, and I told him I think it's because he just gets girls' numbers right away without building any rapport at night. And no girl here has refused to give her #, so they naturally will flake more. Let's see how this goes forward."

Great insights as usual Slubu and thanks for answering my earlier questions! Based on your posts it seems your wingman is struggling much more than you, especially when I read the face control post or the threesome post where the girls initially did not want him to come back. Do you think it is because he looks different (minority?), or maybe he is not dressed as sharp (no suit game?). I am interested in hearing your viewpoint on that and if you can share the "mistakes" he is making so that other travelers from this thread who visit Russia will be aware. Thx
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^^^^cause the Slubo has LOOKS game. None does as good as him! That being said obviously minorities have to work harder but I would think in Siberia it be less discriminating considering the locals themselves often are a mix of ethnics.
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You'll see Moscow is like Kiev on roids. Ukrainian chix become a bit less calculating if the think you're there for the long run, but the harshness of their economic reality has had an effect.
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Quote: (07-30-2013 07:44 PM)BCZalgyris Wrote:  

"It's funny, my buddy and I sat down today and wrote out all our leads, prospects, failures, etc. Try to see what is going on and if we should adjust. He is struggling a bit more than me now, and I told him I think it's because he just gets girls' numbers right away without building any rapport at night. And no girl here has refused to give her #, so they naturally will flake more. Let's see how this goes forward."

Great insights as usual Slubu and thanks for answering my earlier questions! Based on your posts it seems your wingman is struggling much more than you, especially when I read the face control post or the threesome post where the girls initially did not want him to come back. Do you think it is because he looks different (minority?), or maybe he is not dressed as sharp (no suit game?). I am interested in hearing your viewpoint on that and if you can share the "mistakes" he is making so that other travelers from this thread who visit Russia will be aware. Thx

I know jimukr thinks it's looks game but I disagree. My buddy is a good looking guy, way more muscle than I and is more fashionable than me too. I think it's because there is a default of people here and in Ukraine thinking he's turkish. He does not suit up though, only occasionally, whereas I have a blazer on almost always.

However, aside from looks I think his mistakes are stemming from trying to push too hard, something we all do. And it builds on itself...don't get laid, try harder, come across as more try hard, don't get laid even more.

Quote: (07-30-2013 08:10 PM)jimukr104 Wrote:  

^^^^cause the Slubo has LOOKS game. None does as good as him! That being said obviously minorities have to work harder but I would think in Siberia it be less discriminating considering the locals themselves often are a mix of ethnics.

See above. [Image: biggrin.gif] I'm still too tired to do my full writeup for last night which was very fun, but I almost got face controlled and not my buddy. That was a first for me in the FSU.
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^ Russia makes no sense they face control dudes? Sounds like they may just be fucking with you to get a bribe or something?

Your trip is fascinating, also true on the coming off as a try hard downward spiral when in a rut. All about momentum
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Quote: (07-30-2013 11:10 PM)WestCoast Wrote:  

^ Russia makes no sense they face control dudes? Sounds like they may just be fucking with you to get a bribe or something?

Yeah. For girls it's all about looks. For guys it's completely random sometimes.
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