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America: The Easiest Place To Swoop Girls

America: The Easiest Place To Swoop Girls

Quote: (02-19-2012 11:59 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

There are so many more girls compared to guys in Miami than Southern California its not even funny.

Big G. I'm not seeing it, and I live here. If that were the case, the attitudes of local women would adjust to be able to compete for fewer available males, like in Colombia. My observations are, that there are so many guys, the average, chubby girls act 4 points higher than they actually are from all the male attention they get.

I truly think it's the opposite, and the sex ratio is more like 103 males for every 100 females.

I'm actually curious, can anybody pull-up sex ratios by cities of North America?

Mixx
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Quote: (02-19-2012 12:09 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2012 11:59 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

There are so many more girls compared to guys in Miami than Southern California its not even funny.

Big G. I'm not seeing it, and I live here. If that were the case, the attitudes of local women would adjust to be able to compete for fewer available males, like in Colombia. My observations are, that there are so many guys, the average, chubby girls act 4 points higher than they actually are from all the male attention they get.

I truly think it's the opposite, and the sex ratio is more like 103 males for every 100 females.

I'm actually curious, can anybody pull-up sex ratios by cities of North America?

Mixx

Yeah. I actually think Miami is one of the best breeding grounds for a player in the US. Even more than DC. Despite the fact that Miami has some of the hottest looking girls in the US, they have high bitch shields and the competition is fierce. There's so many cats down there throwing money at these chicks. Outside of social circle, Miami has to be one of the toughest places to approach and bang a local that's an 8+.
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Quote: (02-19-2012 12:17 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Outside of social circle, Miami has to be one of the toughest places to approach and bang a local that's an 8+.

Correction:

Outside of social circle, Miami has to be one of the toughest places to approach and bang a local that's a 6+.

6's are not exactly easy to bang here from so much attention they get!

Forget 8's, almost impossible for the average joe not throwing money like he just won the lottery outside of social circle!

* If you are extremely good looking: Tyson Beckford, Chris Brown, Enrique Iglesias, Channing Tatum types, no problem, your opportunities are better, but you STILL MUST put in heavy work for a 7+ Only 6's and below are slam dunks fro model type looking guys!

* The other guys I see do well in Miami are straight up, broke, ghetto hoodrats! However, the girls they bang are primarily social circle neighborhood hos, but there are some fine ones to be had.

Mixx
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Quote: (02-19-2012 12:09 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2012 11:59 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

There are so many more girls compared to guys in Miami than Southern California its not even funny.

Big G. I'm not seeing it, and I live here. If that were the case, the attitudes of local women would adjust to be able to compete for fewer available males, like in Colombia. My observations are, that there are so many guys, the average, chubby girls act 4 points higher than they actually are from all the male attention they get.

I truly think it's the opposite, and the sex ratio is more like 103 males for every 100 females.

I'm actually curious, can anybody pull-up sex ratios by cities of North America?

Mixx

I am just telling you from head to head experience.

I spent like 3 months in Miami Beach last year and 4 months in Southern CA (LA, San Diego and a little in Newport).

This year I was in CA in Jan, and 3 weeks in Miami Beach and Palm Beach. Now back in CA.

No comparison.

Way more girls in Miami.

Way more competition in Southern California.

The ratio is so wide spread that the two don't even belong in the same conversation.

I am literally in shock everytime I am in Miami about how many more clean shots you can take per night as compared to CA.

If you think Miami is bad, steer clear of Southern California.

You will kill yourself within 3 days.

Then throw in the early hours, no smoking, early closing restaurants and 10% State tax, and its enough to make someone reach for the pill bottle and cocaine mirror.
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Quote: (02-19-2012 12:09 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2012 11:59 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

There are so many more girls compared to guys in Miami than Southern California its not even funny.

Big G. I'm not seeing it, and I live here. If that were the case, the attitudes of local women would adjust to be able to compete for fewer available males, like in Colombia. My observations are, that there are so many guys, the average, chubby girls act 4 points higher than they actually are from all the male attention they get.

I truly think it's the opposite, and the sex ratio is more like 103 males for every 100 females.

I'm actually curious, can anybody pull-up sex ratios by cities of North America?

Mixx

Here is Miami in 2010 (source: Wikipedia):
The median age was 38 years. For every 100 females there were 98.9 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 97.3 males.

In 2009, the median income for a household in the city was $29,812, and the median income for a family was $33,814. The per capita income for the city was $19,846. About 21.7% of families and 26.3% of the population were below the poverty line.

Here is Chicago 2010 (source: Wikipedia):
The median age was 32 years. For every 100 females there were 94.2 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 91.1 males.

The (2000) median income for a household in the city was $38,625, and the median income for a family was $46,748. Males had a median income of $35,907 versus $30,536 for females. Below the poverty line are 19.6% of the population and 16.6% of the families.

Here is Las Vegas 2010 (source: Wikipedia):
The median age was 34 years. For every 100 females there were 103.3 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 102.5 males.

The median income for a household in the city was $53,000 and the median income for a family was $58,465.[25]

Mixx, IIRC, you posted before that you tend to go after a high-end, South Beach style chick, correct? My bet is that in those circles, their might be a shortage of quality women(especially with the sheer number of guys fronting like they have money when they are actually broke).

You wrote how you don't go after those low-income neighborhood chicks. With a median household income of $29K and over 26% of the population living below the poverty line, the bulk of the available women probably aren't even on your radar.

In my few trips to Miami, I found it reasonably easy to pull. But I wasn't going after the high end South Beach/CSI:Miami style chicks. Of the 4 chicks I banged there, two didn't even speak English, and the other two were fellow tourists attending the same conference I went to.
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I agree with G, plus add in the tourists here in Florida. Mixx you should have clean shots at Canadian girls all day long there now. If you are talking about locals only that may be different. I was on ST Pete beach yesterday and watched packs of Canadian girls getting trashed all day. I was on a date myself but take a look at my Clearwater beach thread. It's the same shit in ST pete this time of year for foreign girls. Get a hotel room on Johns pass and ride the trolly to the local bars . It's over. You can't do that in SOCAL.
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Quote: (02-19-2012 12:41 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Here is Chicago 2010 (source: Wikipedia):
The median age was 32 years. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 91.1 males.


WWWWWUUUUUUTTTT!!! Seems like I need to put Chicago on my list in 2012!!

Quote: (02-19-2012 12:41 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Mixx, IIRC, you posted before that you tend to go after a high-end, South Beach style chick, correct? My bet is that in those circles, their might be a shortage of quality women(especially with the sheer number of guys fronting like they have money when they are actually broke).

You wrote how you don't go after those low-income neighborhood chicks. With a median household income of $29K and over 26% of the population living below the poverty line, the bulk of the available women probably aren't even on your radar.

In my few trips to Miami, I found it reasonably easy to pull. But I wasn't going after the high end South Beach/CSI:Miami style chicks. Of the 4 chicks I banged there, two didn't even speak English, and the other two were fellow tourists attending the same conference I went to.

Ah! this makes a lot of sense. I NEVER hang out in the poor, mostly FOB immigrant barrios of Hialeah, Homestead, little Havana, Kendall. Or party at any of their nightclubs.

I go for the CSI: Miami girls who to me, are the only ones worth a damn in Miami. My neighborhoods:

NoBe (little Buenos Aires), Aventura, Coral Gables, Sunny Isles Beach, Doral, Pembroke Pines.

maybe I need to start hanging out in Kendall and Hialeah more often, but these ghetto bitches are too clingy and are quick to yell false rape to a guy they see has $$$ from high society.

However, Gmanifesto rolls in the same circles I do, and he claims to see super abundance, where I don't. I need to roll with G one day in Miami.


Johoya, curious: Your Age? Are you white? Athletic build/tall?

Mixx
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Quote: (02-19-2012 12:51 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I agree with G, plus add in the tourists here in Florida. Mixx you should have clean shots at Canadian girls all day long there now.

Canadian girl are slam dunks in Miami. I am ONLY talking about girls from Miami that live here, not female "sex tourists" [Image: lol.gif]

Anyone knows female tourists on sexcation are guaranteed bangs! =)

Mixx
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Quote: (02-19-2012 12:56 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2012 12:41 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Here is Chicago 2010 (source: Wikipedia):
The median age was 32 years. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 91.1 males.


WWWWWUUUUUUTTTT!!! Seems like I need to put Chicago on my list in 2012!!

Quote: (02-19-2012 12:41 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Mixx, IIRC, you posted before that you tend to go after a high-end, South Beach style chick, correct? My bet is that in those circles, their might be a shortage of quality women(especially with the sheer number of guys fronting like they have money when they are actually broke).

You wrote how you don't go after those low-income neighborhood chicks. With a median household income of $29K and over 26% of the population living below the poverty line, the bulk of the available women probably aren't even on your radar.

In my few trips to Miami, I found it reasonably easy to pull. But I wasn't going after the high end South Beach/CSI:Miami style chicks. Of the 4 chicks I banged there, two didn't even speak English, and the other two were fellow tourists attending the same conference I went to.

Ah! this makes a lot of sense. I NEVER hang out in the poor, mostly FOB immigrant barrios of Hialeah, Homestead, little Havana, Kendall. Or party at any of their nightclubs.

I go for the CSI: Miami girls who to me, are the only ones worth a damn in Miami. My neighborhoods:

NoBe (little Buenos Aires), Aventura, Coral Gables, Sunny Isles Beach, Doral, Pembroke Pines.

maybe I need to start hanging out in Kendall and Hialeah more often, but these ghetto bitches are too clingy and are quick to yell false rape to a guy they see has $$$ from high society.

However, Gmanifesto rolls in the same circles I do, and he claims to see super abundance, where I don't. I need to roll with G one day in Miami.


Johoya, curious: Your Age? Are you white? Athletic build/tall?

Mixx
See that is the problem with Miami. The some areas are just so fucked up that you don't want to go there. Here it's all even for the most part. We don't really have high society so those girls are forced to play with the rest of us if that makes sense. It would be a waste of time to chase those circles here. Top tier hotties are at the malls. Find them and take them someplace fun for a couple hours. That's it.
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Quote: (02-19-2012 12:56 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Johoya, curious: Your Age? Are you white? Athletic build/tall?

Mixx

35, black, 6'4", when I hit the gym consistently I get pretty muscular. Without hitting the gym, I still carry around a lot of muscle, but it is nowhere near as toned and cut as I prefer. I have been in front of a computer for too long, so I am getting soft. Gotta drop the carbs, hit the weights and get back into BJJ/Judo.
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Quote: (02-19-2012 12:58 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2012 12:51 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

I agree with G, plus add in the tourists here in Florida. Mixx you should have clean shots at Canadian girls all day long there now.

Canadian girl are slam dunks in Miami. I am ONLY talking about girls from Miami that live here, not female "sex tourists" [Image: lol.gif]

Anyone knows female tourists on sexcation are guaranteed bangs! =)

Mixx
Ok, but there are girls to fuck all the time so why do you care or bother with the other ones? Believe me the amount of girls out in my little local town has dropped since the economy took a shit. I don't live even going 5 miles to pull but to get decent stuff I do now. If it wasn't raining I'd be on my way back to ST.Pete right now.

Do you know how lucky we are to have all these options?
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Quote: (02-19-2012 01:08 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2012 12:56 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Johoya, curious: Your Age? Are you white? Athletic build/tall?

Mixx

35, black, 6'4", when I hit the gym consistently I get pretty muscular. Without hitting the gym, I still carry around a lot of muscle,

As I assumed. This is VERY IMPORTANT GUYS! Ask any guy who finds Miami pretty easy to get bangs from local females, and these stats will be the "tale of the tape" as far as their physical build goes.

I'm not 6'4", and that also helps a TON! I make up for my 5'11 short-ness with an Athletic Build, Fashion taste, and local status.

Nobody who is AVERAGE, OVERWEIGHT, SHORT or Skinny or over 40 is going to pull 7+ easily here if they fall into any of these:

1. Make less than 50kUSD per year
2. Do not have a local social circle in Miami with high-status local friends.
3. Have NO Fashion sense.

Physical looks count in Miami, A LOT. Along with your local status, and $$$ to floss.

That is, if you want to hit anything above a 5 on a regular basis.

Mixx
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Quote: (02-19-2012 01:13 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Ok, but there are girls to fuck all the time so why do you care or bother with the other ones?

I don't, I have only fucked around with female sex-tourists 90% of the time since I turned 30.

I don't bother with local women, unless she makes obvious IOI's. Colombia is only 3hrs away, so is Tampa, Orlando, and Montreal in the summer.

yes, I know how lucky we are to live in a Tourist state. I would only move from Florida to go live in Colombia, oh wait..I already have a condo there - sigh! [Image: lol.gif]

MIXX
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Quote: (02-19-2012 12:56 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2012 12:41 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Here is Chicago 2010 (source: Wikipedia):
The median age was 32 years. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 91.1 males.


WWWWWUUUUUUTTTT!!! Seems like I need to put Chicago on my list in 2012!!

I forgot to speak on this. Chicago is an awesome town, but there are two big challenges you face here. The first is that an abnormally high number of the better women here get married quickly. Higher than in DC. If you are ONLY going after the 25 and under crowd it isn't a big deal. But above that the numbers start to drop.

The second is more problematic. Chicago is a FAT city. No two ways about it. It has AWESOME carb heavy food, but is also too cold to workout/play outside for about 6-8 months out of the year. Great food + little exercise = fat women.

Also, with a population is made up of primarily blacks, Latinos, and whites of Eastern European descent, you have an overabundance of men who like "thick" women. Chicago has the second largest Polish population in the world. Only Warsaw is higher. However, the petite Polish girls that Roosh is banging are almost non-existent here. Thin chicks here are so rare that they stand out, and not in a good way. They almost look like freaks, because the people in Chicago are so big. On occasion they will be derided with comments like "You need to eat a sandwich or something".

I didn't realize how fat the city was until I came to this forum and looked at what guys here were calling fat. A good number of those chicks would be considered normal (even thin) in Chicago. My bet is that the weight of the Average Chicago girl is AT LEAST 20lbs higher than women in Miami or Vegas, and I wouldn't be shocked if the number was 30lbs.

Just doing some quick math based on memory. Of all of the weddings for people and relatives within my general age group, in about 1/3 of them the women were OVER 200lbs when they walked down the isle. Maybe in another 1/3, the women would be considered thin/athletic. For the final 1/3, the women were still thick/ a little overweight, just not obese. Keep in mind, this is on their wedding day, a day most women prepare for by working out months in advance.

It is the only city I know where a 200lb+ woman still has a reasonably good chance of getting married.
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Quote: (02-19-2012 01:37 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

It is the only city I know where a 200lb+ woman still has a reasonably good chance of getting married.

You have got to be shitting me! [Image: dodgy.gif]

this is fucking depressing to read, but glad you are keeping it real. Anyone else can comment on the obesity issue in Chicago?


Mixx
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Quote: (02-19-2012 10:01 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

Now, in places like Minneapolis, Texas (anywhere in Texas), Arizona, and Tennessee, Kentucky, North Carolina, DAMN, If I came from another country, and only visited these places during my trip, I would say American women are the easiest bangs in the world!!

I will soon be checking out Oklahoma fir a quick recon trip.

Can someone here speak for NYC today?

Mixx

Agreed MiXX............. how about all the Canadian Poon you get in Miami/FLL and all the other girls on sexcation/vacation.

In Midwest there are no toutrist chicas to game but the local girls are relatively easy.............. In NYC/MIAMI local chicas are not easy but then you have easy tourist girls........

A player gets his action when he can , whereever he can.......

I would rate NYC very high because of the shear amount of tourists it gets and the number of tagets available to spit game on .....

"You can not fake good kids" - Mike Pence
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Quote: (02-19-2012 02:02 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2012 01:37 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

It is the only city I know where a 200lb+ woman still has a reasonably good chance of getting married.

You have got to be shitting me! [Image: dodgy.gif]

this is fucking depressing to read, but glad you are keeping it real. Anyone else can comment on the obesity issue in Chicago?


Mixx

Yeah, the obesity issue in Chicago is far overblown (so to speak).

Again, I am usually rolling the top spots, so my perspective is skewed.

Last few times I have rolled with a super fly girl I know there, so I wasn't out swooping.

But, I have never seen a shortage of fly girls.

And they are so friendly, it makes Chicago a winner.

Plus, add to that it is one of the best restaurant towns in America.

Back to Miami Mixx:

My last day there I was chilling on the beach (first sunny day in a while, I think tues or wed).

4 Slovakian or Slovenian girls sit down next to me topless. (I had to go make some calls so I wasn't able to convert, and I had dinner plans with a girl that night and leaving the next day.)

But that is what I am talking about.

Where else in America do you get to sit on the beach in Feb with 4 Slovakian or Slovenian girls topless?
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Chicago is a great spot. Definitely worth checking out. Just dont go in winter. Late spring, early fall are the best times. I've only been there a few times and haven't been recently but I remember walking around the Magnificent Mile and thinking the talent there was pretty strong. Lots of young midwestern girls move there after college.
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Quote: (02-19-2012 01:37 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

The first is that an abnormally high number of the better women here get married quickly. Higher than in DC. If you are ONLY going after the 25 and under crowd it isn't a big deal. But above that the numbers start to drop.

Cosigned.

Outside of a few select spots like Cali, NYC, Miami and the like, there's just not a lot of hot party girls in wide swaths of the country. Some guys who live in small bumfuck towns have mentioned the hot girls all get married or pregnant before leaving high school. I believe it.

Fuck, I left California and moved to somewhere else on the West Coast and have been a bit culture shocked. Where I'm at now, all the hot girls want to get married or re-married or something stupidly retarded like that. This was not the case in Cali, or not as much. Or at least in Cali, they weren't pre-programmed right from the start to hunt for the ring. I've had to adjust my game appropriately, but on average, I'd say the environment is worse than Cali even if the male competition is a lot lower.

That's why I disagree with the premise of this thread: America is NOT the easiest place to swoop girls. Throw in the nasty bullshit inherent in American women. It may be easy if you're in a specialized area exploiting a specialized niche, but that can be said for any place in the world.

I have been to Chicago for business. The average person there is ugly and incredibly overweight, but you would never game the average girl anyway. It shouldn't be a problem if you're focusing on attractive single girls who are still invested in their looks before finding a husband.
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Quote: (02-19-2012 03:08 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Back to Miami Mixx:

My last day there I was chilling on the beach (first sunny day in a while, I think tues or wed).

4 Slovakian or Slovenian girls sit down next to me topless. (I had to go make some calls so I wasn't able to convert, and I had dinner plans with a girl that night and leaving the next day.)

But that is what I am talking about.

Where else in America do you get to sit on the beach in Feb with 4 Slovakian or Slovenian girls topless?


We are talking about 2 different things. I am talking about the local, stuck-up bicthes that live, and breathe in Miami, the ones that do not hang out on South Beach, but on LOCALS ONLY venues, Not the female sex-tourist from canada/Europe that come here to get latin dick in South Beach, Fort Lauderdale (Not that I mind, I love hitting tourists).

sex tourist gringa/European girls on sexcation are easy anywhere, but I hear they are especially easy in DR, and Bocas Del Toro Panama.

Now, try game on a local 8+ bred in Miami. Good Luck!

Any man who does not rely on 100% tourist to get laid in Miami is is deep trouble!


Mixx
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Quote: (02-19-2012 04:10 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

We are talking about 2 different things. I am talking about the local, stuck-up bicthes that live, and breathe in Miami, the ones that do not hang out on South Beach, but on LOCALS ONLY venues, Not the female sex-tourist from canada/Europe that come here to get latin dick in South Beach, Fort Lauderdale (Not that I mind, I love hitting tourists).

sex tourist gringa/European girls on sexcation are easy anywhere, but I hear they are especially easy in DR, and Bocas Del Toro Panama.

Now, try game on a local 8+ bred in Miami. Good Luck!

Any man who does not rely on 100% tourist to get laid in Miami is is deep trouble!


Mixx

Ok. I got where you are coming from.

I don't disagree with you at all.

I am just making the comparison to California.

If you are from out of town and try to swoop a local girl from Laguna Beach cold?

Zero Shot! (Generally speaking).

Hell, unless you speak with a California beach accent, she will think you are "strange". California beach towns are very insular and not international at all.

Plus, you have so many guys "holding it down". It is not "open season" like in Miami.

There are just so many more girls in Miami than CA. It's triple. Or quadruple.

Again, I am coming from a perspective of a California guy going to Miami.

Florida in general has an inferiority complex when it comes to California so I think that helps my cause.

I think I come off as a little "exotic" to the girls of Miami.

And the crazy thing is I have a very precision approach in California, I know the spots, know the players and understand the rhythms of the night.

In South Florida, I hit up places cold many times.

So my shotgun approach in South Florida is more effective than my sniper approach in Southern California.

That is it for me though, no more hyping Miami. Hell, the more people that hate that place, the better for me.
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Quote: (02-19-2012 04:10 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Quote: (02-19-2012 03:08 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Back to Miami Mixx:

My last day there I was chilling on the beach (first sunny day in a while, I think tues or wed).

4 Slovakian or Slovenian girls sit down next to me topless. (I had to go make some calls so I wasn't able to convert, and I had dinner plans with a girl that night and leaving the next day.)

But that is what I am talking about.

Where else in America do you get to sit on the beach in Feb with 4 Slovakian or Slovenian girls topless?


We are talking about 2 different things. I am talking about the local, stuck-up bicthes that live, and breathe in Miami, the ones that do not hang out on South Beach, but on LOCALS ONLY venues, Not the female sex-tourist from canada/Europe that come here to get latin dick in South Beach, Fort Lauderdale (Not that I mind, I love hitting tourists).

sex tourist gringa/European girls on sexcation are easy anywhere, but I hear they are especially easy in DR, and Bocas Del Toro Panama.

Now, try game on a local 8+ bred in Miami. Good Luck!

Any man who does not rely on 100% tourist to get laid in Miami is is deep trouble!


Mixx
Funny. Over this way we don't want anything to do with girls who were born and bred here. This place fucks them up with the shitty schools and all the drugs. Add country music into the mix and it's over.

Transplants are the way to go. Any good looking(decent) girl here will be from the northeast or mid west except Michigan.

My last bangs..
Ukraine
Upstate NY
North Carolina
Unknown
Ohio
Penn

Even online I go right past anything that says native or Florida girl/country girl. I'm saying you wont get laid. You will with ease but the rest of the redneck malakias(stupidity) is almost unbearable for me as a native New Englander.

When you say that about Miami it makes me think about the PR girls that break my ballsx10.

Either way I would level that playing field with a nice fast boat and stay out of the clubs.

For perspective could you post a pic of what semi-swagged dudes could pull on the steady there? I have conflicting ideas about the 1-10 scale for us here. When someone comes from the forum I ask them to rate the locals here and the feedback I'm getting is a lot of 7+ but when pictures are posted here of girls that look similar they get lower ratings.

Now I was just at a couple stores and I saw what I would consider 8s or 9s. These girls would be hard to pull for ASAP anyplace in the US. It's hit or miss for me so at the rate that I like to bang different girls I have to chase what's available where I'm at. Which brings me back to the boat. When you're at a sandbar littered with bikinis and you pour shots down random girls throats your pool of ass is going to be 2 points higher than what you would find at the local bar. Even white-knight dudes won't let chicks bring fatty friends on the water with them. So when telemarketer chick A gets the invite for sunday she usually gets instructed to bring hot friends. That's where the excess is. Bringing fat girls on the water is a nightmare here. Only rednecks fishing and married dudes have to deal with that but it doesn't last long. After the chips and sandwiches are gone. Bikini sluts are good for pounding down tequila and getting trashed twice in one day. Two puke/passouts and two open windows for easy asap and threesomes.
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wonder if shoe lifts would help, hurt, or not matter...I'm 6'1, not stocky but solid. rely on looks & game since I've got no wealth/status.

sorry for the randomness, was looking at mixx's earlier posts. And yeah, American girls are pretty easy. 99% are horrible for LTRs, impossible to care about, but great for meaningless fucking. Asshole and alpha game work far too well as does the occasional soft-alpha "semi-beta" game to play the nutty chicks on the rebound.

Sad. Maybe it's me but just ten years ago I don't remember American women being like they are now.
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@Anon a Moose - I don't know if it's me but there's something I don't like about this shoe lift theory. Please don't take it wrong but it seems to border on insecurity. Imagine a lizard thinking she is going home with some tall stud and then you take your shoes off and you are several inches shorter? It reeks of a different type of deception.
The same way if I took a reptile home and she took her clothes off and those big juicy D's turned into mosquito bite A's once the pushup came off.
Or that svelte tight bod turned into a rumpled pool of fat once the corset came off.

I personally think we should work with what we got. Next thing, you'll have guys padding their trousers with socks to look like they packing a fat one and rocking wonder pecs and slap on biceps etc.

Unless it's a major deformity, I hardly think that this shoe lift thing should make a difference.

I used to work with this guy in the UK who was about 5'6 tops. He used to rock some kind of goatee that made him look like one of those magical leprechauns from the Enchanted Forest.

However, I've never seen someone get so much gyal. When I saw the way this guy rolled, it made sense. His confidence was almost psychotic and he opened endlessly on lizards. Endlessly. We would be at work, manning the tills and EVERY fly lizard that passed through, this guy would hit up on.
He got shut down a fair amount of times but he didn't give a SOLO fcuk.
Confidence (within reason) should get the job done.
If confidence isn't working, then most of us are mobile. Move to a city that favours your look.

I actually think that being short lowers a lizard's guard and allows one to spit that game to take her by surprise.
Being tall intimidates her.
Also the beauty of being short is that you can spit club game on blitz-like level and no lizard will see you spitting at others (since most tower over you).

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I think comparing Cali and Miami is apples and oranges. I also think that players on one side often naturally prefer the other. Cali dudes can clean up well on the east coast. Mad chicks out here love Cali and/or dream of living there. This naturally plays into a west coast player's favor. Chicks are always intrigued by someone new and foreign, and Cali is about as far as you can get from the east coast in the US.

Similarly, I get a lot of love when I visit the west and when I used to live there. Girls out there love the east coast swagger big time.

What Mixx says about looks being king in MIA is 110% true. My cousin used to live out there but he's totally not a game living cat. This dude has always suffered from one-itis. I've even tried introducing him to this forum after his last break up but he just won't change. It's a shame because he had one of the nicest setups when he lived in MIA for work a few years ago. Any one of us would have killed for those logistics. He used to work for the Kimpton Hotel Group and they had him in MIA setting up the IT network at their new hotels down there. Yo, they had him LIVING in a sick hotel in Coconut Grove. That joint had a hot tub in the balcony, plasma screen when that shit was just out, and the hotel was just a block from that major nightlife area in CC Grove. Can't remember the name but there's multiple venues and levels. I know one spot was called Banana Joe's. This was during that time when MIA was going hard in the rap music world. Trick Daddy/Trina etc. I remember we were smoking cigars on the balcony once and saw Trina walking below us on the street. We hollered and she smiled and waved. The company also gave him a rental car. He could have told chicks he was some Tony Montana type cat with the way his lifestyle was setup, but he never took advantage. Just never had it in him. Also, it didn't seem to matter. Girls in MIA were still playin' hard to get. He ended up leaving MIA (by choice) for New Orleans because he said the people in NO were more down to earth. In MIA people would ask him questions like "what kind of shoes are those?" That life started getting to him after a while.

Anyway, I kicked it with him when I was out there for Spring Break once back in the day. That was my physical prime (college days). I had the freshest clothes, shape-up was sharp as hell, and I was young, dumb and full of cum and all I cared about was getting as many notches as possible. I was approaching like crazy that week, both on South Beach and in Coco Grove. In Coco Grove, where more locals hang out, you would think it would be easier, but like Mixx said, a lot of chicks that were like 6's were still frontin. I even had mad DHV by using my cousin's hotel for logistics while out there but I still had to put in work and the chick I brought back was nothing to write home about.

South Beach was also tough. Luckily, I had a strong team and was deep out there. Beach day game was crucial in getting notches. But night game at those clubs on Washington, Collins, and Ocean ave were airballs (either flakes or rejections).

The last time I was in MIA was in 2010. It was like March and a straight up loss. The weather was actually cold and I ended up getting sick. The streets were just dead at night, though I did check out Boteca and that Argentine part of the city. I had just got back from Bogota and wanted to spend a few days out there with my newfound South American swagger. I stayed at a homeboy's crib from high school. Dude was doing well in South Beach but wanted to up and leave for NYC. Miami just didn't stimulate him anymore.

Anyway, I was rocking that classic Maradona WC jersey from Le Coq Sportif. Mad Argentines dapped me up all over South Beach. I stood out as a brother rockin' a Maradona jersey [Image: smile.gif]

Still, a loss...
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