[Amour Fou]

(01-09-2012 02:41 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 09:35 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 09:15 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

I need to go out more solo.

That said , the other thing is that I need to sharpen my game. My current skills are not sufficient to yield above mediocre (bangs in the 5/6 range) results anymore.

Going out solo (especially in a foreign country) makes your balls double in size. After going out solo here (Hawaii) and facing the most hardcore sociopathic bitches I've ever dealt with in my life, everything else feels much easier.

And yes, the trick is to experiment some new grounds every once in a while, as absurd as a place can be, till you find what works for you.

I have a friend in Rio (not that wing of mine you've met) that usually hangs out at underground hip hop spots. Although hip hop is not my thing, those are the first places I'll try out upon returning home, as my friend keeps insisting girls there are much better/easier than the places I usually hang (ex: Casa da Matriz).

Be open to the new!

(ps: SP is on my radar when I return... be ready! )

Is Hawaii a difficult place to game? I will be visiting there later this wear and was wondering what kind of gaming climate the place is like.

Check out my Hawaii Datasheet for some info.

I'll be putting an update on my new perception of things here.

In a nutshell: Hawaii is a difficult place to game. More enquiries you can post on the Datasheet thread or pm me.

[Mr.GM]

(01-08-2012 11:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

When rolling dolo: Not Hollywood style clubs. I go to clubs with good music (not house music, old women are house music fans) and where bottle service is minimized.


I have great fucking style. I rock cowboy boots. I've put together an outfit with a cardigan with a cowboy hat. I'm also good looking - not a model, but a 7 looks wise, and in the right outfit, close to an 8.


When with my crew: My friends and I do OK money wise, so when we want to party, we can go big. We even hire our private bodyguard to walk with us, walk to our table, and grab girls for us. We'll get bottles, where hanging out is #1 priority.

Then girls come over, and we always bang the best of the bar.

Game is better than money, but don't believe the hype. Money and game is way better than just game.

So when guys complain about clubs, I'd like to know two things: What are you wearing and what's your bank roll?

(01-08-2012 11:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Sh*t.

I have been saying this for years on mostly deaf ears.

It seems that we are all agreeing here after all.

That was my point when I started the thread:


Don't go to mainstream / big clubs if:

-You don't look better(looks/style) than 80% of the guys
-You don't have the bankroll to stand out.
-You are an average man in a big western/westernized city.

I'm not saying that the average player can't get quality in clubs,but it will be an exception to the rule. Most of the times the ROI of club game will be too low.

Its just easier to get quality via street game (day /night) and in different types of venues

[Amsterdao!]

(01-09-2012 06:05 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 11:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

When rolling dolo: Not Hollywood style clubs. I go to clubs with good music (not house music, old women are house music fans) and where bottle service is minimized.


I have great fucking style. I rock cowboy boots. I've put together an outfit with a cardigan with a cowboy hat. I'm also good looking - not a model, but a 7 looks wise, and in the right outfit, close to an 8.


When with my crew: My friends and I do OK money wise, so when we want to party, we can go big. We even hire our private bodyguard to walk with us, walk to our table, and grab girls for us. We'll get bottles, where hanging out is #1 priority.

Then girls come over, and we always bang the best of the bar.

Game is better than money, but don't believe the hype. Money and game is way better than just game.

So when guys complain about clubs, I'd like to know two things: What are you wearing and what's your bank roll?

(01-08-2012 11:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Sh*t.

I have been saying this for years on mostly deaf ears.

It seems that we are all agreeing here after all.

That was my point when I started the thread:


Don't go to mainstream / big clubs if:

-You don't look better(looks/style) than 80% of the guys
-You don't have the bankroll to stand out.
-You are an average man in a big western/westernized city.

I'm not saying that the average player can't get quality in clubs,but it will be an exception to the rule. Most of the times the ROI of club game will be too low.

Its just easier to get quality via street game (day /night) and in different types of venues

Nahh...I think a guy should in a nightclub should adjust more to every situation...but i won't ever say that nightlife game is dead. Sometimes you just have to be a little more creative to get a girl's attention....to make her laugh in a certain situation or whatever.

You can peacock...bottle services...suit up...etcetc all those things...but nothing can beat a cool personality and vibe. Inner Game!

[K-man]

Going to fashionable clubs with VIP sections, bottle service, and glamor girls is not going to bring lays for the average guy.
It's like going to a biker bar without a tricked out Harley, leather boots, neck chains, rings, tattoos and all other requisites, and wondering why you don't pull biker goupies.
Much the same way, the must-have attributes for guys in such clubs are cash, style, social savvy, expensive clothes, etc. The top dogs will get all the girls, and 80% of all other guys will just spend their cash fruitlessly there.
Find your niche.

[Rurik]

go to thailand and fuck hot-ass-hell go go girls for 60 bucks (all expenses) or a bar girl for as low as 20 bucks a pop.

[Amsterdao!]

Going to a nightclub with some hot female friends does wonders.....

[Rurik]

(01-09-2012 08:12 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Going to fashionable clubs with VIP sections, bottle service, and glamor girls is not going to bring lays for the average guy.
It's like going to a biker bar without a tricked out Harley, leather boots, neck chains, rings, tattoos and all other requisites, and wondering why you don't pull biker goupies.
Much the same way, the must-have attributes for guys in such clubs are cash, style, social savvy, expensive clothes, etc. The top dogs will get all the girls, and 80% of all other guys will just spend their cash fruitlessly there.
Find your niche.

+1 having attractive girls with you beforehand is important for clubs. Mystery was all about that. preselection.

[Mr.GM]

(01-09-2012 08:12 AM)K-man Wrote:  

Going to fashionable clubs with VIP sections, bottle service, and glamor girls is not going to bring lays for the average guy.
It's like going to a biker bar without a tricked out Harley, leather boots, neck chains, rings, tattoos and all other requisites, and wondering why you don't pull biker goupies.
Much the same way, the must-have attributes for guys in such clubs are cash, style, social savvy, expensive clothes, etc. The top dogs will get all the girls, and 80% of all other guys will just spend their cash fruitlessly there.
Find your niche.

Exactly.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-09-2012 01:33 AM)Openbar Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 11:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I go to:

Hotel bars
High-end restaurant bars
Street Game at night (so key, been meaning to write on this for a while)
Lounges or Smaller clubs that are hard to get into with good ratios

Definitely looking forward to a post on item #3. Totally agree with #1 and #2. "Hard to get into" probably excludes me at the moment from #4.

Yeah, don't discount high-end restaurant bars either.

Those places can be goldmines.

I have never heard anyone in the pua crowd even mention them.

Which should tell you something in and of itself.

[MikeCF]

(01-09-2012 08:48 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

go to thailand and fuck hot-ass-hell go go girls for 60 bucks (all expenses) or a bar girl for as low as 20 bucks a pop.

Some guys like eating Doritos or going to McDonald's for fast food.

Other guys like to hunt for their own food.

Different strokes.

[Screwston]

I've never thought clubs were good for pulling something but I lost my virginity to a girl from one lol. I only go now if I'm with some homies and want to have fun. The biggest hurdle for me is groups of girls who are only there for Facebook pictures and shit like that. I can't even approach groups like that unless I'm fucked up...no way in hell I can get a girl to leave her friends unless she decides she wants me as soon as she sees me.
I'd rather be dropped off at a mall or Target in the middle of an afternoon.

[el mechanico]

(01-09-2012 04:05 PM)houston Wrote:  

I've never thought clubs were good for pulling something but I lost my virginity to a girl from one lol. I only go now if I'm with some homies and want to have fun. The biggest hurdle for me is groups of girls who are only there for Facebook pictures and shit like that. I can't even approach groups like that unless I'm fucked up...no way in hell I can get a girl to leave her friends unless she decides she wants me as soon as she sees me.
I'd rather be dropped off at a mall or Target in the middle of an afternoon.

LOL... Ross, TJ Maxx especially if they're in the same plaza with a Panera bread.

[Screwston]

(01-09-2012 04:15 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(01-09-2012 04:05 PM)houston Wrote:  

I've never thought clubs were good for pulling something but I lost my virginity to a girl from one lol. I only go now if I'm with some homies and want to have fun. The biggest hurdle for me is groups of girls who are only there for Facebook pictures and shit like that. I can't even approach groups like that unless I'm fucked up...no way in hell I can get a girl to leave her friends unless she decides she wants me as soon as she sees me.
I'd rather be dropped off at a mall or Target in the middle of an afternoon.

LOL... Ross, TJ Maxx especially if they're in the same plaza with a Panera bread.

Lmao. Houston is full of strip malls with a block of stores like that....I love it.

[el mechanico]

(01-09-2012 04:20 PM)houston Wrote:  

(01-09-2012 04:15 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(01-09-2012 04:05 PM)houston Wrote:  

I've never thought clubs were good for pulling something but I lost my virginity to a girl from one lol. I only go now if I'm with some homies and want to have fun. The biggest hurdle for me is groups of girls who are only there for Facebook pictures and shit like that. I can't even approach groups like that unless I'm fucked up...no way in hell I can get a girl to leave her friends unless she decides she wants me as soon as she sees me.
I'd rather be dropped off at a mall or Target in the middle of an afternoon.

LOL... Ross, TJ Maxx especially if they're in the same plaza with a Panera bread.

Lmao. Houston is full of strip malls with a block of stores like that....I love it.

They closed the Whattaburgers here. I haven't found one of those visors in my bedroom in over a year now. How you doing there?

[at350zguyy]

panera is a gold mine during the lunch hours, especially on weekends. if i wasnt with my mom and sister, i definitely would have been after this girl who was eyefucking me all the way across the room.

[MikeCF]

(01-09-2012 06:05 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 11:47 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

When rolling dolo: Not Hollywood style clubs. I go to clubs with good music (not house music, old women are house music fans) and where bottle service is minimized.


I have great fucking style. I rock cowboy boots. I've put together an outfit with a cardigan with a cowboy hat. I'm also good looking - not a model, but a 7 looks wise, and in the right outfit, close to an 8.


When with my crew: My friends and I do OK money wise, so when we want to party, we can go big. We even hire our private bodyguard to walk with us, walk to our table, and grab girls for us. We'll get bottles, where hanging out is #1 priority.

Then girls come over, and we always bang the best of the bar.

Game is better than money, but don't believe the hype. Money and game is way better than just game.

So when guys complain about clubs, I'd like to know two things: What are you wearing and what's your bank roll?

(01-08-2012 11:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Sh*t.

I have been saying this for years on mostly deaf ears.

It seems that we are all agreeing here after all.

That was my point when I started the thread:


Don't go to mainstream / big clubs if:

-You don't look better(looks/style) than 80% of the guys
-You don't have the bankroll to stand out.
-You are an average man in a big western/westernized city.

I'm not saying that the average player can't get quality in clubs,but it will be an exception to the rule. Most of the times the ROI of club game will be too low.

Its just easier to get quality via street game (day /night) and in different types of venues

Right, but you gotta understand where me and G are coming from.

Out premise is unstated, but crucial.

Stop being average.

[el mechanico]

(01-09-2012 04:33 PM)at350zguyy Wrote:  

panera is a gold mine during the lunch hours, especially on weekends. if i wasnt with my mom and sister, i definitely would have been after this girl who was eyefucking me all the way across the room.

If you think about it where do hot girls go? Places that sell clothes and make up. Me and my kid have been hitting the mall twice a week. My close rate is low there so far but I'm getting it figured out. My plans for it revolve around closing time(9pm) Data sheet soon.

[Rurik]

(01-09-2012 02:51 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(01-09-2012 08:48 AM)Rurik Wrote:  

go to thailand and fuck hot-ass-hell go go girls for 60 bucks (all expenses) or a bar girl for as low as 20 bucks a pop.

Some guys like eating Doritos or going to McDonald's for fast food.

Other guys like to hunt for their own food.

Different strokes.

Hunting for emaciated rodents when you could be buying a well prepared filet mignon.

[mcr]

(01-08-2012 11:53 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

I don't really go to big clubs too much anymore.


Street Game at night (so key, been meaning to write on this for a while)

I'd love to see what you've got to say on this topic too.... it's something I have much better results with than traditional 'club game' - hell, at least 50% of the time the women open me! My friends (with zero game) wonder why I want to roam the street instead of "stand & stare" inside the clubs!

[anewtypedude]

(01-09-2012 04:35 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

(01-09-2012 02:41 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 09:35 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 09:15 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

I need to go out more solo.

That said , the other thing is that I need to sharpen my game. My current skills are not sufficient to yield above mediocre (bangs in the 5/6 range) results anymore.

Going out solo (especially in a foreign country) makes your balls double in size. After going out solo here (Hawaii) and facing the most hardcore sociopathic bitches I've ever dealt with in my life, everything else feels much easier.

And yes, the trick is to experiment some new grounds every once in a while, as absurd as a place can be, till you find what works for you.

I have a friend in Rio (not that wing of mine you've met) that usually hangs out at underground hip hop spots. Although hip hop is not my thing, those are the first places I'll try out upon returning home, as my friend keeps insisting girls there are much better/easier than the places I usually hang (ex: Casa da Matriz).

Be open to the new!

(ps: SP is on my radar when I return... be ready! )

Is Hawaii a difficult place to game? I will be visiting there later this wear and was wondering what kind of gaming climate the place is like.

Check out my Hawaii Datasheet for some info.

I'll be putting an update on my new perception of things here.

In a nutshell: Hawaii is a difficult place to game. More enquiries you can post on the Datasheet thread or pm me.

Just read your datasheet. Damn Hawaii sounds rough. But since I don't care much for the local chicks, are there good places for easy tourists?

[Amour Fou]

(01-10-2012 04:24 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

(01-09-2012 04:35 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

(01-09-2012 02:41 AM)anewtypedude Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 09:35 AM)Amour Fou Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 09:15 AM)Mr.GM Wrote:  

I need to go out more solo.

That said , the other thing is that I need to sharpen my game. My current skills are not sufficient to yield above mediocre (bangs in the 5/6 range) results anymore.

Going out solo (especially in a foreign country) makes your balls double in size. After going out solo here (Hawaii) and facing the most hardcore sociopathic bitches I've ever dealt with in my life, everything else feels much easier.

And yes, the trick is to experiment some new grounds every once in a while, as absurd as a place can be, till you find what works for you.

I have a friend in Rio (not that wing of mine you've met) that usually hangs out at underground hip hop spots. Although hip hop is not my thing, those are the first places I'll try out upon returning home, as my friend keeps insisting girls there are much better/easier than the places I usually hang (ex: Casa da Matriz).

Be open to the new!

(ps: SP is on my radar when I return... be ready! )

Is Hawaii a difficult place to game? I will be visiting there later this wear and was wondering what kind of gaming climate the place is like.

Check out my Hawaii Datasheet for some info.

I'll be putting an update on my new perception of things here.

In a nutshell: Hawaii is a difficult place to game. More enquiries you can post on the Datasheet thread or pm me.

Just read your datasheet. Damn Hawaii sounds rough. But since I don't care much for the local chicks, are there good places for easy tourists?

Again, this is not the place for this discussion. Post your questions on the datasheet thread and I'll answer them. I'll be writing an update soon as well, I'm busy packing as of now.

[Distant Light]

Go to "high end" clubs...

I'm broke and spend 0 dollars a night. Be resourceful, if you need a drink go befriend a rich dude or promoter. (Every man loves being introduced to women) With the exception of MUSIC, I too would hate clubs given the quality in ratio I've seen at some venues. At the sametime anyone who complains about ratio aren't helping because like the other random guy and his wing they're thinking "Where are the girls?" too. Everyone should already be rolling with girls especially if we supposedly are "good with women" ha! (Kinda got inspired with that due to a doorman who let in 1 guy and was like "No one told you to come out with 2 other GUYS")

I can assure you that "high end" venues are as good as it gets on a public level. Beyond that are private house parties and events where its simply a bunch of guys who know alot of women. The best ratio I've ever seen in a "high end" spot was about 70 women who were atleast 8s and only...30 guys, if that.

[MikeCF]

(01-09-2012 11:02 PM)Rurik Wrote:  

Hunting for emaciated rodents when you could be buying a well prepared filet mignon.

lol at kickign it with lady boys and girls with the bodies of 14-year olds as being anything cool to talk about.

you know who goes to thailand? fat old guys who can't afford vegas quality poon. (also, pedophiles.)

[Mr.GM]

(01-10-2012 07:42 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(01-09-2012 11:02 PM)Rurik Wrote:  

Hunting for emaciated rodents when you could be buying a well prepared filet mignon.

lol at kickign it with lady boys and girls with the bodies of 14-year olds as being anything cool to talk about.

you know who goes to thailand? fat old guys who can't afford vegas quality poon. (also, pedophiles.)

Nothing matches the thrill of hunting your own pray.

I have cheap quality P4P practically at my door here , its not the same thing when you catch it with your own skills

[choichoi]

I was about to go out to a club here in ATL and then I said, "eff-it, i'd rather go back to South America".