[Enfant_Terrible]

I've encountered these excuses a few times in my grinds and realize that I have not made a strong impact with the girl if I get this response. But, I'm curious how you would respond to this BS.

Before, I would say, "you could always block me if I get annoying." Then I realize it's too needy and it's still easy to phone/email harass her.

Now I just see it as a dead in the water interaction no matter how long it went.

[MiXX]

You could, but you're gonna have to come to my house and show me how to use it.

Mixx

[Samseau]

You're asking for the number too early. Numbers shouldn't even be asked for at night game until you've gotten a kiss, and even then it's unreliable as fuck...

[Enfant_Terrible]

(01-02-2012 09:41 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

You could, but you're gonna have to come to my house and show me how to use it.

Mixx

Hahaha! Love it, Mixx
I'll try it next time

(01-02-2012 10:02 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

You're asking for the number too early. Numbers shouldn't even be asked for at night game until you've gotten a kiss, and even then it's unreliable as fuck...

Sam, sometimes the conversation went for 10-15 min and I didn't ask till the last few minutes but yes, on other times I did ask for it too early.

[Gmac]

If a girl is trying to give you her email you are doing it wrong. Sorry mate.

[Parlay44]

You have to show some kind of value. I met a girl at one of my local bars. Friend of one my guy friends. She was complaining that it was dry and she couldn't get any weed or blow lately. I told her I don't really party like that anymore but I know some people and can get her pretty much anything she wants. Her eyes lit up. She grabbed her phone and said "What's your number?" I gave it to her and she texted me 2 seconds later. Done.

Maybe drugs isn't the best example but hey it works. Plenty of similar things you can put out there. You have car dealer friends, bouncers at clubs, free access to clubs, you fix computers, you own a restaraunt. Anything. They'll jump at you if you have a resource they want.

[Gmac]

I'd be careful with the whole "I know where to score some drugs" line, those chicks tend to be users... pun also intended.

[Roosh]

Usually it's a nice way for her to reject you. My guess is you're going for it before she shows much interest.

[germanico]

If she refuses to give you her number, keep talking to her for 5 more minutes, then ask again. If she still wont give it to you, fuck that. If she isnt interested in you enough to give you her number, she wont be interested enough to bang you.

If she tries to give you her email or facebook address instead, fuck that. Emails amount to shit, and shit aint nothing.

Alternatively, only ask for numbers after you have sexed her.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-02-2012 09:19 PM)Enfant_Terrible Wrote:  

I've encountered these excuses a few times in my grinds and realize that I have not made a strong impact with the girl if I get this response. But, I'm curious how you would respond to this BS.

Before, I would say, "you could always block me if I get annoying." Then I realize it's too needy and it's still easy to phone/email harass her.

Now I just see it as a dead in the water interaction no matter how long it went.

Yeah, if you are getting this one, you are asking too early as she is not "sold".

You think a girl will let you swoop her if she won't even give you her number? No.

If you accept her email, I will personally fly out to wherever you are and slap you. Tough love.

You need to "give" something (ie Game, show her how dope you are) before you "ask" for something.

Personally, I don't prescribe to the whole "only get a number after you have banged her 20 times" stuff.

I get numbers all the time and convert on them (maybe I should do a Data Sheet on this).

Phone Game is not dead in my opinion and I have written a lot on this. Take it for what it is worth though, since I am the only one out there that seems to think this way.

Circle back or Next!

[germanico]

(01-04-2012 05:11 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Personally, I don't prescribe to the whole "only get a number after you have banged her 20 times" stuff.

What I meant was not to play for numbers. Go all the way, and get the number only when logistics dont allow to close the deal right there.

Lets say you meet a girl at the supermarket. The deal should be to try to get her back to your place, or to get some coffee (with the intention of getting her back to your place afterwards), and if that is not possible, then a number to get a date later where you can close the deal.

Phone game is definitely not dead. But dont reach for the number.

[thegmanifesto]

(01-04-2012 07:59 PM)germanico Wrote:  

(01-04-2012 05:11 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Personally, I don't prescribe to the whole "only get a number after you have banged her 20 times" stuff.

What I meant was not to play for numbers. Go all the way, and get the number only when logistics dont allow to close the deal right there.

Lets say you meet a girl at the supermarket. The deal should be to try to get her back to your place, or to get some coffee (with the intention of getting her back to your place afterwards), and if that is not possible, then a number to get a date later where you can close the deal.

Phone game is definitely not dead. But dont reach for the number.

I with you. And I wasn't necessarily aiming my comments at you or anyone on this thread.

Every now and then, their seems to be these "Game revelations" that get repeated over and over on the internet than pretty soon everyone takes as gospel.

Most of the time they are completely false.

Lately, there seems to be a huge wave of "never get a girls phone number, phone numbers are worthless. Only get a number after you have banged the girl and all her sisters" type crap.

Don't get phone numbers? People have to be kidding.

And this message is detrimental to young G's getting up in the Game.

There are nights last year that I got 6 numbers and ended up converting on 4 of them over the next month.

Phone numbers work, "if" you have strong Game, can work the phone, and have a good lifestyle.

Phone numbers don't work for guys with no Game.

But then again, they never have worked for those guys.