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10-18-2011, 05:52 PM
What do you guys do when it's 100F outside with 80% humidity, and you want to go to a tiki bar full of bikini clad women?
Wouldn't you sweat too much? Do girls dig sweaty blazer armpits?
What if one the girls ran up and gave you a hug, and she was covered in Hawaiian Tropic, and stained the blazer?
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10-18-2011, 06:10 PM
Quote: (10-18-2011 05:58 PM)Smitty Wrote:
Quote: (10-18-2011 05:52 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:
What do you guys do when it's 100F outside with 80% humidity, and you want to go to a tiki bar full of bikini clad women?
Wouldn't you sweat too much? Do girls dig sweaty blazer armpits?
What if one the girls ran up and gave you a hug, and she was covered in Hawaiian Tropic, and stained the blazer?
Ali, I never wear a suit out on a hot day (other than for work or formal functions). Some guys around here may try to rock a suit at tiki bar, but i'd most def be wearing something much cooler and more stylish.
Ahh. I was just confused. G said always go suited down. I'm just trying to figure it out.
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10-18-2011, 06:24 PM
There's three basic things to keep in mind when buying a suit: material, construction and fit.
Material is easy. 100% wool is the way to go. Construction is where it can get really complicated and really expensive. Ideally, you'd want a jacket that's fully canvased and trousers that are lined. That's going to cost you, though, and probably not necessary for your purposes. You just want to take a good look at the suit and make sure it's well-made.
The fit is going to be the most important thing; that's what will make or break the suit. Off the rack, you're going to want to make sure it fits in the shoulders and chest. Natural shoulders are the mark of good suit. You don't want shoulders that are too big or have too much padding. And you want to make sure that you have enough room in the chest to move about. The jacket should have enough waist suppression to accentuate the natural V of a man's body, but a tailor can do that.
The length of the pants and the sleeves is where a lot of guys mess up. If your sleeves are hanging down to your palms or your pants are bunched up above your shoes, you'll look like a kid in his dad's suit. You want about a half-inch of your shirts cuff showing below the jacket cuff, maybe a little more if you want to flash some fly cuff links. Traditionally, suit trousers are worn high up on the waist. A place like Zara is likely to have a much more modern, Euro cut that sits lower on the hips. Either way is fine, just make sure you're aware of how the pants are cut. If you have pants mean to sit up on the waist and you wear them down on your hips, it's going to look like you're wearing a dirty diaper. For someone with your build, I'd recommend a sizable cuff (1 3/4") and a definite break in the trousers.
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10-18-2011, 06:34 PM
if you are going to wear them to shitty bars w/nasty floors go cheap on the shoes. otherwise spend a few hundred bucks and find shoes that are comfortable for you and you will have them at least 10 years. maybe 20. seriously.
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10-18-2011, 07:14 PM
Quote: (10-18-2011 07:06 PM)MikeCF Wrote:
Quote: (10-18-2011 05:52 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:
What do you guys do when it's 100F outside with 80% humidity, and you want to go to a tiki bar full of bikini clad women?
Wouldn't you sweat too much? Do girls dig sweaty blazer armpits?
What if one the girls ran up and gave you a hug, and she was covered in Hawaiian Tropic, and stained the blazer?
This mentality is what i call the Raising Objections mindset.
You're always looking for why things WON'T work.
It's far more positive to find out ways things WILL work.
Critics are never visionaries.
No. I own custom suits. There are MANY places where I would look out of place. Like a tiki bar. Walking the streets of Dubai in the middle of summer. I think the custom suit thing is a little over hyped.
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10-18-2011, 07:15 PM
Quote: (10-18-2011 06:34 PM)Brian Wrote:
if you are going to wear them to shitty bars w/nasty floors go cheap on the shoes. otherwise spend a few hundred bucks and find shoes that are comfortable for you and you will have them at least 10 years. maybe 20. seriously.
Men's leather shoes can easily last 20 years, especially if resoled and reconditioned. Billionaire New York Mayor Bloomberg has had only two pair in 20 years!
Bloomberg's Shoes Last 10+ Years
Warning - expensive traditional leather lace-ups like Church's or Alden may not break in and stretch like cheaper shoes. I have had to discard a few expensive pairs that never fit right. Softer Italian leather (Ferragamo, etc.) shouldn't have this problem.
Women can tell expensive shoes. Nasty floors should not be a problem (in contrast to hiking through mud and rain).
Suits and shoes go on sale after July 4th and after Christmas. If you want a special item in your size then you should buy at the beginning of the season. But you almost always get black wingtips or grey suits cheaper on sale.
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10-18-2011, 08:55 PM
LostGringo,
That tip of yours about wearing a pilot's uniform is GOLDEN man. I'm going to get one done for me. Would you suggest one fromr a major airline or a smaller one?
Speaking of suits, I have a few and I totally agree that wearing suits gives you way better treatment than if you were in jeans/t-shirt.
Btw, G, since you're the suit pro, a suit with or without a tie? While I like wearing suits, I'm not a fan of wearing ties. Have you noticed a difference in terms of vibe you got from both lizards and people in general while wearing a tie versus not wearing one?
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10-19-2011, 09:06 AM
Quote: (10-18-2011 01:54 PM)LostGringo Wrote:
an airline pilot uniform.
You have instant social status, money and trust - plus you are a globe-trotting man of mystery.
This is intriguing because airline pilots make very little money today (I have written about this before). In the 1970's, airlines were regulated and pilots were unionized. It wasn't easy to accumulate the requisite flight hours in civilian jobs, and pilots were paid well. The government and unions could require 10,000 flight hours in military bombers, creating an artificial scarcity of pilots. They could also regulate ticket prices. Remember, tickets were expensive and stewardess's (flight attendants) had weight requirements for "safety".
But today, flight school is expensive and pilot pay is abysmal. Some guys do it because they love to fly. It is interesting that women don't appreciate this.
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10-19-2011, 05:08 PM
Quote: (10-19-2011 04:59 PM)PDX Wrote:
Quote: (10-18-2011 10:38 AM)Roosh Wrote:
The breast pocket is not real, so no room for a pocket square.
Sure it's not just sewn shut? (Not uncommon.)
Good point. I frequently leave the side jacket pockets sewn shut so they stay flat and trim, instead of giving a baggy appearance. On that note, I prefer flush pockets to patch or flap pockets for a slimmer look.